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Brian Hill,you can have the Sunn for free.I would like to at least get
back my UPS shipping cost to you,to the tune of about $79.00.I will
snail mail you a copy of my UPS receipt,this week or next week,or
whenever I make up my mind about it.
cuhulin ......Larry

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CelticDude wrote:
Too_Many_Tools wrote:

I am thinking about upgrading....any suggestions?

Also I have been getting an occasional "Error 3" on my Sony 2010...what
is it from?

Thanks for any advice.

TMT


As far as the Error 3, that is caused by a problem with the AA
batteries that power the memory and CPU. If the batteries themselves
are okay, then you may have to *gently* bend the clips that hold the
batteries. From what I've read, this is a somewhat common problem with
the 2010. If you search the Yahoo 2010 group, you will find more
detailed descriptions and fixes for this.


The problem is Sony didn't hardwire one of the AA battery terminals to
the PC board. Instead they used a pointed contact on the terminal which
touches a solder pad on the microprocessor board. Over time this contact
can become unreliable, causing the AA battery circuit to open
intermittently. The microprocessor senses this problem and produces the
error message. The solution is to bypass the pointed contact on the AA
battery terminal with a short wire soldered to the microprocessor board.
This is what the other AA terminal uses. However it's not easy to access
the location where the bypass wire needs to be installed. I recall
having to completely remove the main PC board and partially remove the
microprocessor board under the main board, to get to the AA battery
terminal area. It was worth the effort though. The error message problem
is gone now on my 2010.
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Too_Many_Tools wrote:
I am thinking about upgrading....any suggestions?

Also I have been getting an occasional "Error 3" on my Sony 2010...what
is it from?

Thanks for any advice.

TMT


Tecsun/Eton/Grundig are now Chinese-made junk - the Eton E1 has had a
host of quality-control problems, including the batteries blowing up,
when used with the AC adaptor. The Sony ICF-2010 is/was the best
portable ever made - Sony is by far the best manufacturer. I have a
hand-held Sony ICF-S10MK2 AM/FM $10 radio, that out-performs my digital
PLL radios.

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Too_Many_Tools wrote:
I am thinking about upgrading....any suggestions?

Also I have been getting an occasional "Error 3" on my Sony 2010...what
is it from?

Thanks for any advice.

TMT


Forgot to mention, that the Eton E1 does not even have an internal
ferrite-bar antenna, so you have to use an external antenna for AM, and
although Satellite Radio ready, doesn't come with an antenna - at that
price, absolutely ridiculous ! **** Eton !

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I got to play with an E1 a couple of months ago. While it doesn't have a
loopstick antenna for MW, it did work quite well on that band. When did they
stop making this radio in India?

Pete

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Too_Many_Tools wrote:
I am thinking about upgrading....any suggestions?

Also I have been getting an occasional "Error 3" on my Sony 2010...what
is it from?

Thanks for any advice.

TMT


Forgot to mention, that the Eton E1 does not even have an internal
ferrite-bar antenna, so you have to use an external antenna for AM, and
although Satellite Radio ready, doesn't come with an antenna - at that
price, absolutely ridiculous ! **** Eton !





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Pete KE9OA wrote:
I got to play with an E1 a couple of months ago. While it doesn't have a
loopstick antenna for MW, it did work quite well on that band. When did they
stop making this radio in India?

Pete

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Too_Many_Tools wrote:
I am thinking about upgrading....any suggestions?

Also I have been getting an occasional "Error 3" on my Sony 2010...what
is it from?

Thanks for any advice.

TMT


Forgot to mention, that the Eton E1 does not even have an internal
ferrite-bar antenna, so you have to use an external antenna for AM, and
although Satellite Radio ready, doesn't come with an antenna - at that
price, absolutely ridiculous ! **** Eton !


I have no idea, why a loop stick antenna was not supplied - all I can
say, is that with my miserable experience with the Tecsun/Etcon/Grundig
cheap crap S350, I will never go near Tecsun/Etcon/Grundig, or Sangean
again - I have had excellent experiences with Sonys.

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On Thu, 14 Dec 2006 08:51:22 -0800, nsarejectnsareject wrote:


Pete KE9OA wrote:
I got to play with an E1 a couple of months ago. While it doesn't have a
loopstick antenna for MW, it did work quite well on that band. When did they
stop making this radio in India?

Pete

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Too_Many_Tools wrote:
I am thinking about upgrading....any suggestions?

Also I have been getting an occasional "Error 3" on my Sony 2010...what
is it from?

Thanks for any advice.

TMT

Forgot to mention, that the Eton E1 does not even have an internal
ferrite-bar antenna, so you have to use an external antenna for AM, and
although Satellite Radio ready, doesn't come with an antenna - at that
price, absolutely ridiculous ! **** Eton !


I have no idea, why a loop stick antenna was not supplied - all I can
say, is that with my miserable experience with the Tecsun/Etcon/Grundig
cheap crap S350, I will never go near Tecsun/Etcon/Grundig, or Sangean
again - I have had excellent experiences with Sonys.


If the only experience you have with Eton is the S350, you are clueless.
Why don't you post back here when you have something meaningful to offer.

gfy
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there might be a Big Buddha laughing at us while we're all running
around going 'Oh ****!'" - a Catholic bishop

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I have no idea, why a loop stick antenna was not supplied - all I can
say, is that with my miserable experience with the Tecsun/Etcon/Grundig
cheap crap S350, I will never go near Tecsun/Etcon/Grundig, or Sangean
again - I have had excellent experiences with Sonys.


Yeah, they're great-but the ****ing collectors have ruined it for the rest
of us-how can you afford one now?

Rich


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Too_Many_Tools wrote:
I am thinking about upgrading....any suggestions?

Also I have been getting an occasional "Error 3" on my Sony 2010...what
is it from?

Thanks for any advice.

TMT


Of course, the Eton E1, not even a contest. 1070's Volswagen technology
vs. Eprom technology.

YMMV, taxes can be variable..........:-)

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"H. State" wrote in message
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Too_Many_Tools wrote:
I am thinking about upgrading....any suggestions?

Also I have been getting an occasional "Error 3" on my Sony 2010...what
is it from?

Thanks for any advice.

TMT


Of course, the Eton E1, not even a contest. 1070's Volswagen technology
vs. Eprom technology.

YMMV, taxes can be variable..........:-)


The thing is that the 2010 is about the same amount of $s if you can find
one. Not too many go for less than $350-400.

BH




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