On Thu, 04 Jan 2007 01:46:30 GMT, Telamon
wrote:

In article ,
Doug Smith W9WI wrote:

Tester wrote:
Of course, flourescent bulbs create RFI.

I bought my first CFL a few weeks after I bought this house in 1994.
The bulb in the basement stairwell burned out, and it was such a pain to
change I decided I wanted something that would take awhile to burn out.

Had to replace it last week. (yes, that's **twelve years** service!)

Since then, as each bulb has burned out, I've replaced it with a CFL.
Can't say I've had significant noise trouble. Sure wish I could say the
same for my computers!

It's hard to get past the price differential, but if you can, you'll
like 'em...

I don't think we are talking about the same bulbs. These cheap units
won't last that long. Maybe two years max.

I have nothing but compact fluorescents and some are way over 5 years
old. I've changed the kitchen overheads once since 1998. It's insane
to use Edison lamps for lighting.

In article ,
David wrote:

On Thu, 04 Jan 2007 01:46:30 GMT, Telamon
wrote:

In article ,
Doug Smith W9WI wrote:

Tester wrote:
Of course, flourescent bulbs create RFI.

I bought my first CFL a few weeks after I bought this house in 1994.
The bulb in the basement stairwell burned out, and it was such a pain to
change I decided I wanted something that would take awhile to burn out.

Had to replace it last week. (yes, that's **twelve years** service!)

Since then, as each bulb has burned out, I've replaced it with a CFL.
Can't say I've had significant noise trouble. Sure wish I could say the
same for my computers!

It's hard to get past the price differential, but if you can, you'll
like 'em...

I don't think we are talking about the same bulbs. These cheap units
won't last that long. Maybe two years max.

I have nothing but compact fluorescents and some are way over 5 years
old. I've changed the kitchen overheads once since 1998. It's insane
to use Edison lamps for lighting.

These less then a dollar bulbs have only been available the last few
months so you must have a time machine then.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Tester wrote:

While it sounds like a promising idea, it turns out that the
long-lasting, swirl-shaped light bulbs known as compact fluorescent
lamps are to the nation's energy problem what vegetables are to its
obesity epidemic: a near perfect answer, if only Americans could be
persuaded to swallow them.

Don't forget that EVERY one of those CF's contain
one drop of MERCURY.

(yes....that Mercury, known as element HG)

So much for enviornmental care when these things
start to end up in the waste stream !!!

HA !!!!!!!

We should all revert back to using candles.But not candles made from
politicians,they would stink up the place too much.
cuhulin

OBtSWL,

This would be the same amount of Mercury that came out of the Ground.

Was processed into the CFL Bulb.

And when the CFL Blub is disposed-of it : That same amount
of Mercury will be going back into the Ground.

net sum equal - imho ~ RHF

I found the other part of my old fluorescent light in my bathroom
cabinets.It says,PHILIPS.Adapter for PL 7 or PL 9 120 V 12 Watts Made in
U.S.A. B4 Listed UL Adapter E77629 43L2 Pat.Pending Cat # 34888

The whole light assembly is actually three seperate parts.The adapter
with the screw in base part on it slides/connects up to what I assume is
the ballast and the light bulb which plugs into the adapter makes it
three seperate parts.If I happen to see a replacement light bulb at a
local store,I will buy it and see if I can get it all working again for
my bathroom.

I have a bunch of old,old electrical thingys here.One of them is an old
light dimmer.It says on it, Mil-L-12313A Bristol Dynamics,Inc
Dimmer,Lampholder Made in Brooklyn,N.Y.120V 60 Watt
It has a red two position slide switch on the side for Dim Bright.I
think it dates back to the 1950's.I tried it out in one of my table
lamps,but it doesn't work.(maybe that's why it showed up at the Goodwill
store) If I wire brush the crud off of the screw in base,it might work.
cuhulin

When you was a kid,did you ever break an old mercury type of thermometer
and play with the mercury? We didn't know any better back in those days
when we were kids.
cuhulin

You are correct about the same amount of mercury going back into the
environment, however, the ultra cheap Wal-Mart spent bulbs will not be going
back to China!

Food for thought:

http://1url.org/go/1ia8j


"RHF" wrote in message
ups.com...
OBtSWL,

This would be the same amount of Mercury that came out of the Ground.

Was processed into the CFL Bulb.

And when the CFL Blub is disposed-of it : That same amount
of Mercury will be going back into the Ground.

net sum equal - imho ~ RHF
.
.
. .

On Jan 3, 2:36 pm, "Old Benny the SWL" wrote:
Tester wrote:
While it sounds like a promising idea, it turns out that the
long-lasting, swirl-shaped light bulbs known as compact fluorescent
lamps are to the nation's energy problem what vegetables are to its
obesity epidemic: a near perfect answer, if only Americans could be
persuaded to swallow them.Don't forget that EVERY one of those CF's
contain
one drop of MERCURY.

(yes....that Mercury, known as element HG)

So much for enviornmental care when these things
start to end up in the waste stream !!!

HA !!!!!!!

On 3 Jan 2007 22:56:24 -0800, "RHF"
wrote:

OBtSWL,

This would be the same amount of Mercury that came out of the Ground.

Was processed into the CFL Bulb.

And when the CFL Blub is disposed-of it : That same amount
of Mercury will be going back into the Ground.

net sum equal - imho ~ RHF
.
.
Around here they don't bury the lamps. You turn them in at a HHW
facility (or at a semi-annual roundup) along with your batteries and
used chemicals and motor oil. It is illegal to put mercury in the
trash, period.

RHF wrote:
OBtSWL,

This would be the same amount of Mercury that came out of the Ground.

Was processed into the CFL Bulb.

And when the CFL Blub is disposed-of it : That same amount
of Mercury will be going back into the Ground.

net sum equal - imho ~ RHF

Yes, but, of course, the problem is that when the mercury from bulbs is
placed back into the ground/water, it is greatly more concentrated than
when it was mined, where it was also locked up in the ore. It is the
artificial purification / concentration / juxtaposition that makes it
dangerous.

However, it is also true that most people are becoming far more careful
about they dispose of toxic materials. Here in the SF bay area, we
have fairly convenient hazardous waste centers who will accept this
stuff free at disposal time. About once every two years, I bring a
small batch of nasty material there, and in about 1 minute it is off my
hands. The material is then either reclaimed or disposed of in a palce
where it hopefully will be safe for 1,000,000,000 years.

BJ