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D Peter Maus wrote:

Paul W. Schleck wrote:
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HD radios not selling - HD shills to the rescue !

Related topic:

There was supposed to be a Tivoli "Model HD" arriving "late fall 2006":

http://www.gadgetell.com/2006/07/hd-...for-under-200/

There were some press releases on it at the Tivoli web site, but now all
I can find is a photograph of the prototype:

http://www.tivoliaudio.com/files/mas...a/model_hd.jpg

No other word in any forum I could find, this after slipping the
estimated ship date by almost 2 quarters now.

Not that I would have bought one for Christmas. My Model One is working
just fine (with external antennas) for me. No price was ever announced,
but I figure that the estimated MSRP was creeping over $300, which was
probably one motivation to shelve it indefinitely.

If I had a spare $300+ to spend on new audio equipment, I would probably
get a Roku Soundbridge R1000 instead:

http://www.amazon.com/Roku-SoundBrid.../B000BIFY6Q/re
f=pd_bbs_sr_6/102-5343901-7994531?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1173239721&sr=8-
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as there would probably be a much wider selection of programming.

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Found this on the Tivoli Audio website. Go to the FAQ on the B-Goods
Outlet page, under "General":




7. Why hasn¹t Tivoli Audio manufactured an HD radio?

There are several obstacles that must be overcome before we can
bring a Tivoli Audio HD radio to market.

The first is cost. Until this technology becomes less expensive,
it is not possible to manufacture an HD radio that is economical for our
customers. Secondly, but just as important, is sound quality. The HD
broadcast fidelity varies greatly from station to station and often
leaves much to be desired, despite what you may read in the press.

Maybe Ibiquity should have Al Gore as their spokesperson. Then he could
profess a belief that HD sounds better than analog.

Once manufacturing costs come down and the sound quality is what
you have become accustomed to hearing from a Tivoli Audio radio, we will
manufacture a Tivoli HD radio. Until then, you can continue to enjoy
high fidelity sound from any one of our fine analog radios. Our radios
will not be obsolete anytime soon.

Again HD can not sound better using the same bandwidth.

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Telamon
Ventura, California

"Telamon" wrote in message
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Again HD can not sound better using the same bandwidth.

Of course it can, and does. Stop thinking in analog terms. All a digital
signal needs is 1s and 0s. How much bandwidth do you think that needs?

To put it in terms that you might understand, think of it like Morse Code.
Code needs less bandwidth - and less power - but the message gets thru just
fine. Why do you suppose that is?

Mike

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"Telamon" wrote in message
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Again HD can not sound better using the same bandwidth.

Of course it can, and does. Stop thinking in analog terms. All a digital
signal needs is 1s and 0s. How much bandwidth do you think that needs?

To put it in terms that you might understand, think of it like Morse Code.
Code needs less bandwidth - and less power - but the message gets thru just
fine. Why do you suppose that is?

I'm not responsible for your lack of education on the subject. Time for
you to research and study the topic. I'm not the one with the lack of
understanding.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

"Telamon" wrote in message
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In article , "Mike"
wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message

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Again HD can not sound better using the same bandwidth.

Of course it can, and does. Stop thinking in analog terms. All a
digital
signal needs is 1s and 0s. How much bandwidth do you think that needs?

To put it in terms that you might understand, think of it like Morse
Code.
Code needs less bandwidth - and less power - but the message gets thru
just
fine. Why do you suppose that is?

I'm not responsible for your lack of education on the subject. Time for
you to research and study the topic. I'm not the one with the lack of
understanding.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

BWAHAHAHA - Telamon's logic is like proclaiming vinyl LP's will always sound
better than CD's because LP's are physically larger - BWAHAHAHA!!!

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"HD Radio²" wrote:

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In article , "Mike"
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"Telamon" wrote in
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Again HD can not sound better using the same bandwidth.

Of course it can, and does. Stop thinking in analog terms.
All a digital signal needs is 1s and 0s. How much bandwidth do
you think that needs?

To put it in terms that you might understand, think of it like
Morse Code. Code needs less bandwidth - and less power - but the
message gets thru just fine. Why do you suppose that is?

I'm not responsible for your lack of education on the subject. Time
for you to research and study the topic. I'm not the one with the
lack of understanding.


BWAHAHAHA - Telamon's logic is like proclaiming vinyl LP's will
always sound better than CD's because LP's are physically larger -
BWAHAHAHA!!!

What an ignoramus! The level of technical understanding you display is
very amusing!

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

"Telamon" wrote in message
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"HD Radio²" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in
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"Telamon" wrote in
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.com...
Again HD can not sound better using the same bandwidth.

Of course it can, and does. Stop thinking in analog terms.
All a digital signal needs is 1s and 0s. How much bandwidth do
you think that needs?

To put it in terms that you might understand, think of it like
Morse Code. Code needs less bandwidth - and less power - but the
message gets thru just fine. Why do you suppose that is?

I'm not responsible for your lack of education on the subject. Time
for you to research and study the topic. I'm not the one with the
lack of understanding.


BWAHAHAHA - Telamon's logic is like proclaiming vinyl LP's will
always sound better than CD's because LP's are physically larger -
BWAHAHAHA!!!

What an ignoramus! The level of technical understanding you display is
very amusing!

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Telamon
Ventura, California

Telamon QUOTE - "Again HD can not sound better using the same bandwidth."

ROTFLMAO.... bwaHAHAHAHAHAHHHHHAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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"HD Radio²" wrote:

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In article , "Mike"
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"Telamon" wrote in
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.com...
Again HD can not sound better using the same bandwidth.

Of course it can, and does. Stop thinking in analog terms.
All a digital signal needs is 1s and 0s. How much bandwidth do
you think that needs?

To put it in terms that you might understand, think of it like
Morse Code. Code needs less bandwidth - and less power - but the
message gets thru just fine. Why do you suppose that is?

I'm not responsible for your lack of education on the subject. Time
for you to research and study the topic. I'm not the one with the
lack of understanding.


BWAHAHAHA - Telamon's logic is like proclaiming vinyl LP's will
always sound better than CD's because LP's are physically larger -
BWAHAHAHA!!!

What an ignoramus! The level of technical understanding you display is
very amusing!

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Telamon QUOTE - "Again HD can not sound better using the same bandwidth."

ROTFLMAO.... bwaHAHAHAHAHAHHHHHAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Wow! What a moron. Your ignorance is truly amazing to behold.

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Telamon
Ventura, California

Mike wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message

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Again HD can not sound better using the same bandwidth.

Of course it can, and does. Stop thinking in analog terms. All a
digital
signal needs is 1s and 0s. How much bandwidth do you think that needs?

To put it in terms that you might understand, think of it like Morse Code.
Code needs less bandwidth - and less power - but the message gets thru
just
fine. Why do you suppose that is?

Mike


Try to carry on a discussion at 5 WPM.

"craigm" wrote in message
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Mike wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message


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Again HD can not sound better using the same bandwidth.

Of course it can, and does. Stop thinking in analog terms. All a
digital
signal needs is 1s and 0s. How much bandwidth do you think that needs?

To put it in terms that you might understand, think of it like Morse
Code.
Code needs less bandwidth - and less power - but the message gets thru
just
fine. Why do you suppose that is?

Mike


Try to carry on a discussion at 5 WPM.

What's the difference in bandwidth between 5WPM and 30WPM? A 500% increase
in bandwidth? BWAHAHAHA!

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"HD Radio²" wrote:

"craigm" wrote in message
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Mike wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in
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.com...
Again HD can not sound better using the same bandwidth.

Of course it can, and does. Stop thinking in analog terms.
All a digital signal needs is 1s and 0s. How much bandwidth do
you think that needs?

To put it in terms that you might understand, think of it like
Morse Code. Code needs less bandwidth - and less power - but the
message gets thru just fine. Why do you suppose that is?

Mike


Try to carry on a discussion at 5 WPM.

What's the difference in bandwidth between 5WPM and 30WPM? A 500%
increase in bandwidth? BWAHAHAHA!

Your response was indeed hilarious!

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Telamon
Ventura, California