On May 15, 12:43 am, Eric F. Richards wrote:
"ve3..." wrote:
Believe me that this Canadian could insult you so bad that you would
end up curled up in a corner in a fetal position sucking your thumb.
But I think you are a peacemaker so I would never do it. Best Regards.

http://www.hamiltonspectator.com/NAS...r?pagename=ham...

It's lonely being pro-American in Canada -- and sometimes at a dinner
party, after a good ration of wine, slightly dangerous.

But why should it be so?

The friendliest city I've ever walked in -- and I've visited scores on
five continents -- is New York. The most pristine beach I've ever
stood on is in Florida. The best food I've ever eaten -- sorry Italy,
France! -- is in California's Sonoma Valley.

Still, you won't hear many people admit that.

No, we love to hate America -- and Americans.

We sniff that our medical system is superior to theirs, then sneak
down to their world-class clinics when we fall sick.

We call ourselves peacemakers and Americans warmongers -- but do the
math on peacekeeping assignments and the United States comes out
ahead. It picks up 26 per cent of the annual $5 billion budget for UN
Peacekeeping, and despite the fact it's slightly distracted by the war
in Iraq, it currently has twice as many UN peacekeepers in the field
as Canada.

Meanwhile, we sniff our disdain for Hollywood movies, though we attend
them in droves (as we should, they make some of the best) -- while
completely ignoring our own.

And as author, journalist and Carleton University professor Andrew
Cohen points out in his intelligently argued and entertaining new
book, The Unfinished Canadian (McClelland & Stewart, $29.99), which
delivers both amusing and incredible insight into the Canadian psyche,
we're not afraid to attack Americans -- not only when we're wrong, but
when we know we're wrong.

Consider former Prime Minister Paul Martin's 2005 election campaign
"chiding" of the US over its commitment to the Kyoto accord.

"The United States lacked 'a global conscience' for reneging on its
obligations under Kyoto," he said, though America's emissions have
risen 13 per cent since 1990 while ours are up 24 per cent.

"Rebuking the Americans on Kyoto -- fully aware that Canada's record
was even worse than America's -- was trafficking in hyperbole and
hypocrisy," Cohen notes. So why do it? Anti-Americanism wins votes.

And we think their politicians are pathetic?

How about our snobbery that we're multiculturalists and bilingual
("Quoi?" dit le Quebec!) -- and they're not. Consider, Cohen asks,
that of the 41 million Hispanics in the United States, 31 million
speak Spanish at home, and that automatic tellers in major cities
provide instructions in Spanish and English, as ours do in English and
French. Or that "in 1973, 78 per cent of students in public schools
were white, and 22 per cent were minorities while in 2004, 57 per cent
were white and 43 per cent were minorities." Or how about this: A 2005
Ipsos-Reid poll reported: "When asked whether people from diverse
backgrounds would be better off if they became more like the majority,
44 per cent of Canadians said yes in contrast to 38 per cent of
Americans."

"Is this a melting pot?" Cohen asks rhetorically. Say no more.

Here's another: They're fat and we're fit! Ahem. Cohen reports half of
Americans are fat, while a third of Canadians are. And, alarmingly, he
says: "The rate of growth in obesity is about the same on both sides
of the border." And I've interviewed Canadian obesity experts who say
our adult obesity rate is already at the halfway mark, and that 37 per
cent of our children are also overweight. So who's calling whom fat?

While myth bashing quickly gets the point across, Cohen's chapter on
the American Canadian (the others he analyzes are the Hybrid,
Observed, Unconscious, Casual, Capital, Chameleon and Future
Canadians) also makes a strong analytical case that suggests our
values are converging with those of Americans.

In the end, the American-Canadian "watches American movies and
television, wears American jeans, listens to American music, reads
American books and magazines.

"He drinks coffee at Starbucks, eats hamburgers at McDonald's and ice
cream at Ben and Jerry's," Cohen notes. "He aspires to the American
Dream, whether it is represented by minivan or an SUV, and the
greatest obstacle to achieving it isn't desire but money."

Oh yeah, they're better at creating wealth -- which they use to feed
the world, promote democracy and human rights, and defend the free
world -- than we are. Now there's a difference we can be proud of.

In short, Cohen points out: "If Canadians were really anti-American,
we would have to denounce ourselves, or everything about our country
and our place in it."

So how does he define us? "We are contradictory, inconsistent and,
yes, occasionally hypocritical."

In short, we're not so different from Americans as we may like to
believe. And those of us who value the freedoms that attract refugees
and immigrants the world over think that's a good thing.

Vive l'Amerique libre!

Dianne Rinehart is a Toronto-based writer.
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This sounds to me like a paid propaganda piece for the North American
Union crowd. They have stated that they are going to achieve their
goal of Mexico-USA-Canada union by stealth as the populations are
against the idea. If we start seeing articles on how swell it is to
visit Mexico, look for media whores.

On May 15, 10:56 am, John Kasupski wrote:
On Tue, 15 May 2007 10:56:54 -0400, "robwisen"
wrote:

The Niagara river which flows from Lake Erie, northward, up and over
Niagara Falls, through the Niagara gorge and out into Lake Ontario. Water
does flow uphill!

The so-called Niagara River does not meet the geological definition of
a river.

- Technically speaking, it is a strait. :-)


John D. Kasupski
Tonawanda, New Yorkhttp://kc2hmz.net

Not in San Fran Sis Co ! ~ RHF

PACCAR Inc,of Bellevue,Washington,is going to build a diesel engines
factory in Columbus,Mississippi.PACCAR Inc www.paccar.com
(Kenworth,Peterbuilt and DAF Trucks) originally built Railroad
Cars.PACCAR Inc wants their PACCAR name on the new diesel engines.PACCAR
Inc has a big service center in Richland,Mississippi,Highway 49 South,a
few miles South of Jacksom.A buddy of mine works there.
Memorial Day got it's start in Columbus,Mississippi.(Columbus is home to
Columbus Air Force Base)
www.devilfinder.com Mississippi Trivia
cuhulin

On 15 May 2007 11:00:52 -0700, RHF wrote:

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STAND-UP FOR AMERICA AND AMERICANISM
Send your 'concerns' about any potential Terrorist
and Illegal Anti-American Foreign Visitors to :
.
There is nothing illegal about being Antiamerican. It's a free world.

In article ,
D Peter Maus wrote:

ve3... wrote:
On May 12, 6:27 pm, Telamon
wrote:
Would you please stop the USA VS Canada crap posts.

Telamon
Ventura, California
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I know the truth hurts and you want it to all go away. It is simple.
Stop posting insults to Canada and I will stop replying. Please note
that all my posts have been provoked. I have much better things to do
but if an insult is posted, I will reply in kind.





Since Telamon doesn't post insults until insulted, your argument is
very much the 5 year old screaming, "Mom!--He hit me back FIRST."


Since this BS originated north of the border....if you stop, he will
have nothing to pursue. If you stop, Ace will have nothing to which me
might respond.


I know the truth hurts and you want desperately to be blameless,
but, it's simple....you're not.


Stop your gratuitous shots at the US, and the in-kind replies will
stop.

I suppose you come by it honestly. When your PM levies personal
insults at our President, it kind of becomes national policy.

Pretty hypocritical to live off the fat of our economy, while
insulting our officials. Especially in light of the US involvement in
thwarting the attack on a Canadian city.

Keep it up, and we'll send back Shatner.

I don't logically expect the Trolling idiots to stop this off topic
thread, I was hoping other normal people that post to the news group to
stop. Oh well.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

In article . com,
RHF wrote:

On May 12, 8:51 pm, Whatever wrote:
wrote:
Awww nowww,,, Mr.Telamon has always seemed to me like he is a Grown Up
Adult Person.Mr.Telamon is A OK in my Book.
cuhulin

- Your book was made for children.

Whatever ? - What Ever !

The only Ones Who can Enter the Kingdom of God are
the Ones Who Receive the Kingdom of God as a Child
{Spiritually} would Receive It, Totally Dependent on God.
- - - Mark 10:15 - An Act of Innocent Faith and Belief [.]

Whatever - Cuhulin is a Child of the Living God :
Can You say the same thing for Yourself ? ~ RHF

That works for me.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

In article . com,
"ve3..." wrote:

On May 7, 8:43 pm, wrote:

There are at least two Rivers I know of for sure in America which flow
North.The St.Johns River in Florida (my half acre of land I own in
Putnam County,Florida is seven miles West of the St.Johns River,,,
Palatka,Florida,East Palatka,Florida) and I think the other one is the
Illinois River,Chicagoland area.There might be one or two more Rivers in
America that flow Northward.Thank GOD they don't flow into Canada.
cuhulin

The Red River flows north from Minnesota to Manitoba.

--
Larry Weil
Lake Wobegone, NH

On May 15, 8:23 pm, Larry Weil wrote:
In article . com,

"ve3..." wrote:
On May 7, 8:43 pm, wrote:

There are at least two Rivers I know of for sure in America which flow
North.The St.Johns River in Florida (my half acre of land I own in
Putnam County,Florida is seven miles West of the St.Johns River,,,
Palatka,Florida,East Palatka,Florida) and I think the other one is the
Illinois River,Chicagoland area.There might be one or two more Rivers in
America that flow Northward.Thank GOD they don't flow into Canada.
cuhulin

The Red River flows north from Minnesota to Manitoba.

--
Larry Weil
Lake Wobegone, NH

LW - It's "Wobegon" [WOH.Bee.Gawn]
-and- It is 'supposed' to be in Minnesota,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Wobegon

oh woe is me ~ RHF {pomkia}

On May 14, 10:52 pm, D Peter Maus wrote:
ve3... wrote:
(3) I admit that I didn't know about the early feud, but I speak for
myself so it is not relevant.

I am not resposible for what someone else says on the site whether he
is a Canadian or not. I AM resposible for what I say and I make every
effort to tell the truth

So, history begins and ends with you.

The history of my postings begins with me.. how else could it be?

I had no idea you were so significant.

That's your opinion, not mine.

You may consider me properly awed.

You're odd alright.

It's not often that I find someone so determined to perpetuate a
bitchfest that they admit to not caring about the facts.

I challenge you to find one of my facts that is wrong.

Nice going.

You're welcome

"Mommy...he hit me back first."

Please get past the childish level.
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Your post does, however raise a question that I have been hunting for
because the thoughts are alien to Canadians. It is, pure and simple,
the American trait to discriminate which is based on the First
Amendment.
Europe, Britain, and Canada all have laws against discrimination.
It is unlawful to discriminate against a person because of race,
religion, national origin, etc. It does not even occur to a Canadian
that he would be discriminated against because of his national origin.
It's just not done. So that is why Canadians signing on to this
website, as they have a perfect right to do, are immediately attacked
by a local gang, who, I hasten to add, in no way represent the
friendly Americans I am used to.
Well boys, have your fun, because the Hate Speech laws currently
going through Congress, and they will pass, will make it Illegal to
speak against a person because of his national origin..All it would
take is a complaint, backed up by web evidence, to get an ambitious
Federal Prosecuting Attorney on your case.
The free-wheeling days of slurs, insults, and name-calling are
coming to a close. If I were you, I would weigh my words carefully in
future.

"ve3..." wrote:

On May 14, 10:52 pm, D Peter Maus wrote:
ve3... wrote:
(3) I admit that I didn't know about the early feud, but I speak for
myself so it is not relevant.

I am not resposible for what someone else says on the site whether he
is a Canadian or not. I AM resposible for what I say and I make every
effort to tell the truth

So, history begins and ends with you.

The history of my postings begins with me.. how else could it be?

I had no idea you were so significant.

That's your opinion, not mine.

You may consider me properly awed.

You're odd alright.

It's not often that I find someone so determined to perpetuate a
bitchfest that they admit to not caring about the facts.

I challenge you to find one of my facts that is wrong.

Nice going.

You're welcome

"Mommy...he hit me back first."

Please get past the childish level.
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Your post does, however raise a question that I have been hunting for
because the thoughts are alien to Canadians. It is, pure and simple,
the American trait to discriminate which is based on the First
Amendment.
Europe, Britain, and Canada all have laws against discrimination.
It is unlawful to discriminate against a person because of race,
religion, national origin, etc. It does not even occur to a Canadian
that he would be discriminated against because of his national origin.
It's just not done. So that is why Canadians signing on to this
website, as they have a perfect right to do, are immediately attacked
by a local gang, who, I hasten to add, in no way represent the
friendly Americans I am used to.
Well boys, have your fun, because the Hate Speech laws currently
going through Congress, and they will pass, will make it Illegal to
speak against a person because of his national origin..All it would
take is a complaint, backed up by web evidence, to get an ambitious
Federal Prosecuting Attorney on your case.
The free-wheeling days of slurs, insults, and name-calling are
coming to a close. If I were you, I would weigh my words carefully in
future.

How does pointing out the fact that you're a dumbass Canuck equate to being
"Hate Speech"?