On Sun, 03 Jun 2007 00:27:30 -0700, wrote:

On Jun 1, 5:43 am, David wrote:
Say goodbye to MWDX.

All 74 pages are available right he

http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_publi...CC-07-33A1.doc

I can hear IBOC crap on the analog signal. It's very low level, but
you can clearly tell when a local station is using the hash generator.
Also, the bandwidth goes to ****. The analog signal when IBOC is
running is just barely better than a phone line.

If your receiver IF/Mixer isn't completely flat you'll hear the IBOC.
The digital sidebands are out of phase with each other and the system
relies on them cancelling out in your receiver. You can't use a synch
detector on an IBOC station, unless you can listen to both sides at
once.

Mostly,the only stores I get to anymore are the food store, the discount
tobacco store, gas station,the Animal Health Products store (dog food)
and sometimes the Sears store and the book store at the mall.

I almost never check out the radios at the stores I go to which do sell
radios because I know they are mostly junk and I haven't looked to see
if there are any hd radios on the store shelves.I don't like hd radio.

So, what is it going to be like for most people when their AM radio
listening gets all messed up and they can't buy cheap enough hd radios
at the stores in their local areas? (Katrina all over again)

A few weeks ago at tvpredictions.com I read that there might not be
enough hd converters for analog tv when that big hd tv switch over is
suppose to happen on Feburary 17, 2009. (Katrina all over again)
cuhulin

On Jun 3, 7:00 am, David wrote:
On Sun, 03 Jun 2007 00:27:30 -0700, wrote:
On Jun 1, 5:43 am, David wrote:
Say goodbye to MWDX.

All 74 pages are available right he

http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_publi...CC-07-33A1.doc

I can hearIBOCcrap on the analog signal. It's very low level, but
you can clearly tell when a local station is using the hash generator.
Also, the bandwidth goes to ****. The analog signal whenIBOCis
running is just barely better than a phone line.

If your receiver IF/Mixer isn't completely flat you'll hear theIBOC.
The digital sidebands are out of phase with each other and the system
relies on them cancelling out in your receiver. You can't use a synch
detector on anIBOCstation, unless you can listen to both sides at
once.

FWIW,

AM/MW "HD" Radio -Nightime- IBOC Is Here Almost . . .

Between 11 PM and 12:30 AM {this is local time}
in Twain Harte, CA north of Yosemite NP.

Dialed up and down the Radio and 'detected' about
Nineteen (19) IBOC Signals on the AM/MW Band.

Could not get a Lock-On any but they were there.

Nightime IBOC is a Fact of AM/MW Radio Listening.

KOAC 550 kHz - Corvallis, OR - Oregon Public Radio
http://www.ntia.doc.gov/PTFP/coverage/or.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KOAC
http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/amq?list=0&facid=50587
KOAC was Broadcasting the BBC-WS
http://www.opb.org/radio/grid.php?c=am
580 kHz - KMJ ?
600 kHz - KOGO ?
640 kHz - KFI ?
680 kHz - KNBR ?
740 kHz - KCBS ?
770 kHz - KCBC ?
780 kHz - KKOH ?
810 kHz - KGO ?
980 kHz - KDVB ?
1020 kHz - KTNQ ?
1110 kHz - KDIS ?
1130 kHz - KRDU ?
1320 kHz - KCTC ?
1360 kHz - KLSD ?
1450 kHz - KVML ?
1510 kHz - KIRV ?
1530 kHz - KFBK ?
1560 kHz - KNZR ?

The reason for the "?" Mark is that the Frequency and
Station is not in Question but the IBOC "Digital" Signal
may possibily be coming from another Radio Station
on that Channel due to Late-Night-Skip.

The Blue "Digital" Light Blinked On-and-Off several
times but did not Lock-On and switch-over-to a Digial
Signal. FM Radio had several Solid Blue Lights.

NOTE - These Radio Stations were heard using the
Factory Supplied 3.5" x 4.5" Loop Antenna with just
Six Turns (6-T) of Wire on it.

The HD-Radio used was the Radiosophy "HD100" Radio
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...367ba87e469adc
http://groups.google.com/group/hd-ra...7fda9f492193dc


good or bad iboc is here - if you can hear it ~ RHF

"RHF" wrote in message
ups.com...

Dialed up and down the Radio and 'detected' about
Nineteen (19) IBOC Signals on the AM/MW Band.

Strange, as night operation is not yet authorized.

KOA is not in HD, as long as it is using the temporary antenna and low
power.

Could not get a Lock-On any but they were there.

Nightime IBOC is a Fact of AM/MW Radio Listening.

KOAC 550 kHz - Corvallis, OR - Oregon Public Radio
http://www.ntia.doc.gov/PTFP/coverage/or.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KOAC
http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/amq?list=0&facid=50587
KOAC was Broadcasting the BBC-WS
http://www.opb.org/radio/grid.php?c=am
580 kHz - KMJ ?
600 kHz - KOGO ?
640 kHz - KFI ?
680 kHz - KNBR ?
740 kHz - KCBS ?
770 kHz - KCBC ?
780 kHz - KKOH ?
810 kHz - KGO ?
980 kHz - KDVB ?
1020 kHz - KTNQ ?
1110 kHz - KDIS ?
1130 kHz - KRDU ?
1320 kHz - KCTC ?
1360 kHz - KLSD ?
1450 kHz - KVML ?
1510 kHz - KIRV ?
1530 kHz - KFBK ?
1560 kHz - KNZR ?

The reason for the "?" Mark is that the Frequency and
Station is not in Question but the IBOC "Digital" Signal
may possibily be coming from another Radio Station
on that Channel due to Late-Night-Skip.

The Blue "Digital" Light Blinked On-and-Off several
times but did not Lock-On and switch-over-to a Digial
Signal. FM Radio had several Solid Blue Lights.

NOTE - These Radio Stations were heard using the
Factory Supplied 3.5" x 4.5" Loop Antenna with just
Six Turns (6-T) of Wire on it.

The HD-Radio used was the Radiosophy "HD100" Radio
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...367ba87e469adc
http://groups.google.com/group/hd-ra...7fda9f492193dc


good or bad iboc is here - if you can hear it ~ RHF
.
.
. .

On Jun 19, 5:12 am, RHF wrote:
On Jun 3, 7:00 am, David wrote:





On Sun, 03 Jun 2007 00:27:30 -0700, wrote:
On Jun 1, 5:43 am, David wrote:
Say goodbye to MWDX.

All 74 pages are available right he

http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_publi...CC-07-33A1.doc

I can hearIBOCcrap on the analog signal. It's very low level, but
you can clearly tell when a local station is using the hash generator.
Also, the bandwidth goes to ****. The analog signal whenIBOCis
running is just barely better than a phone line.

If your receiver IF/Mixer isn't completely flat you'll hear theIBOC.
The digital sidebands are out of phase with each other and the system
relies on them cancelling out in your receiver. You can't use a synch
detector on anIBOCstation, unless you can listen to both sides at
once.

FWIW,

AM/MW "HD" Radio -Nightime- IBOC Is Here Almost . . .

Between 11 PM and 12:30 AM {this is local time}
in Twain Harte, CA north of Yosemite NP.

Dialed up and down the Radio and 'detected' about
Nineteen (19) IBOC Signals on the AM/MW Band.

Could not get a Lock-On any but they were there.

Nightime IBOC is a Fact of AM/MW Radio Listening.

KOAC 550 kHz - Corvallis, OR - Oregon Public Radiohttp://www.ntia.doc.gov/PTFP/coverage/or.htmhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KOAChttp://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/amq?list=0&facid=50587
KOAC was Broadcasting the BBC-WShttp://www.opb.org/radio/grid.php?c=am
580 kHz - KMJ ?
600 kHz - KOGO ?
640 kHz - KFI ?
680 kHz - KNBR ?
740 kHz - KCBS ?
770 kHz - KCBC ?
780 kHz - KKOH ?
810 kHz - KGO ?
980 kHz - KDVB ?
1020 kHz - KTNQ ?
1110 kHz - KDIS ?
1130 kHz - KRDU ?
1320 kHz - KCTC ?
1360 kHz - KLSD ?
1450 kHz - KVML ?
1510 kHz - KIRV ?
1530 kHz - KFBK ?
1560 kHz - KNZR ?

The reason for the "?" Mark is that the Frequency and
Station is not in Question but the IBOC "Digital" Signal
may possibily be coming from another Radio Station
on that Channel due to Late-Night-Skip.

The Blue "Digital" Light Blinked On-and-Off several
times but did not Lock-On and switch-over-to a Digial
Signal. FM Radio had several Solid Blue Lights.

NOTE - These Radio Stations were heard using the
Factory Supplied 3.5" x 4.5" Loop Antenna with just
Six Turns (6-T) of Wire on it.

The HD-Radio used was the Radiosophy "HD100" Radiohttp://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/de367ba87e469adchttp://groups.google.com/group/hd-radio/msg/347fda9f492193dc

good or bad iboc is here - if you can hear it ~ RHF
.
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It is still up to the marketplace to determine the fate of HD Radio -
AM-HD will self-destruct and consumers are NOT buying HD radios. LOL !

wrote:

On Jun 19, 5:12 am, RHF wrote:
On Jun 3, 7:00 am, David wrote:





On Sun, 03 Jun 2007 00:27:30 -0700, wrote:
On Jun 1, 5:43 am, David wrote:
Say goodbye to MWDX.

All 74 pages are available right he

http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_publi...CC-07-33A1.doc

I can hearIBOCcrap on the analog signal. It's very low level, but
you can clearly tell when a local station is using the hash generator.
Also, the bandwidth goes to ****. The analog signal whenIBOCis
running is just barely better than a phone line.

If your receiver IF/Mixer isn't completely flat you'll hear theIBOC.
The digital sidebands are out of phase with each other and the system
relies on them cancelling out in your receiver. You can't use a synch
detector on anIBOCstation, unless you can listen to both sides at
once.

FWIW,

AM/MW "HD" Radio -Nightime- IBOC Is Here Almost . . .

Between 11 PM and 12:30 AM {this is local time}
in Twain Harte, CA north of Yosemite NP.

Dialed up and down the Radio and 'detected' about
Nineteen (19) IBOC Signals on the AM/MW Band.

Could not get a Lock-On any but they were there.

Nightime IBOC is a Fact of AM/MW Radio Listening.

KOAC 550 kHz - Corvallis, OR - Oregon Public Radiohttp://www.ntia.doc.gov/PTFP/coverage/or.htmhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KOAChttp://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/amq?list=0&facid=50587
KOAC was Broadcasting the BBC-WShttp://www.opb.org/radio/grid.php?c=am
580 kHz - KMJ ?
600 kHz - KOGO ?
640 kHz - KFI ?
680 kHz - KNBR ?
740 kHz - KCBS ?
770 kHz - KCBC ?
780 kHz - KKOH ?
810 kHz - KGO ?
980 kHz - KDVB ?
1020 kHz - KTNQ ?
1110 kHz - KDIS ?
1130 kHz - KRDU ?
1320 kHz - KCTC ?
1360 kHz - KLSD ?
1450 kHz - KVML ?
1510 kHz - KIRV ?
1530 kHz - KFBK ?
1560 kHz - KNZR ?

The reason for the "?" Mark is that the Frequency and
Station is not in Question but the IBOC "Digital" Signal
may possibily be coming from another Radio Station
on that Channel due to Late-Night-Skip.

The Blue "Digital" Light Blinked On-and-Off several
times but did not Lock-On and switch-over-to a Digial
Signal. FM Radio had several Solid Blue Lights.

NOTE - These Radio Stations were heard using the
Factory Supplied 3.5" x 4.5" Loop Antenna with just
Six Turns (6-T) of Wire on it.

The HD-Radio used was the Radiosophy "HD100" Radiohttp://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/de367ba87e469adchttp://groups.google.com/group/hd-radio/msg/347fda9f492193dc

good or bad iboc is here - if you can hear it ~ RHF
.
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- Show quoted text -

It is still up to the marketplace to determine the fate of HD Radio -
AM-HD will self-destruct and consumers are NOT buying HD radios. LOL !

And we're not buying Edweenies' crap.