On Jul 28, 12:57 am, wrote:

In the bay area, 15 miles is a large distance. I hardly consider
Richmond next to Oakland. Geez, you have to drive past Berkeley then
get on 580 to reach Richmond.

Now, wait a sec - You must be kidding. 15 miles is *next door* in the
Bay Area. People drive/BART/bus 3-6 times that far every day just to
commute. Some come in from more than 100 miles out by train or car.

Richmond is a short hop from my house in *San Lorenzo*, let alone
Oakland.

Bruce Jensen