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m II August 11th 07 06:33 AM

(OT) : Did the US And The English Ever Apologized For . . .
 
k35454 wrote:
"m II" wrote in message
news:amPui.83138$tB5.13819@edtnps90...
mred wrote:

Ther are many hypothesis about Roosevelts actions and some say he did
this to get the US into the war to help out Great? Britain.



Churchill wrote he prayed the night before for the attack on Pearl
Harbour to succeed because Roosevelt needed something to get public
opinion on his side.

Excuses for war and power grabbing totalitarianism are everywhere. The
Reichstag fire in 1933, the Polish attack on a German radio station in
1939 and more recently, 9-11, are only two examples. Note that these
events don't even have to be genuine, just well presented.

mike

"only two examples" ?? What do they do for math in AB ? miki.



There are three kinds of people..those that are good with numbers and
those that aren't...





mike


m II August 11th 07 06:40 AM

(OT) : Did Japan And The Japanese Ever Apologized For . . .
 
Telamon wrote:
In article .com,
mred wrote:

On Aug 7, 8:52 pm, "Jerry" wrote:
"RHF" wrote in message

ps.com...



On Aug 6, 6:41 am, D Peter Maus wrote:
Frank Halaburak wrote:
"dxAce" wrote in message
...
dxAce wrote:
dxAce wrote:
Not long from now, it will be Monday morning, August 6 in
Hiroshima,
Japan.
Let's pause, and remember the time when men were men, and the sheep
knew their
place. A time when we actually gave our enemies the thumping they
so
thoroughly
deserved, without endlessly whining about it.
Yes, it will soon be the 62nd Anniversary of the Atomic bombing of
Hiroshima.
And, I'm certain it will be mentioned on shortwave, so keep your
radio
on.
Radio Japan, 6145, coming in very well here via The 'Stan at 0000
GMT, 6
August
2007.
Initial news seemed to contain hand-wringing, whining, and as usual,
failure to take
responsibility.
And later programming also seems to try to deflect responsibility for
their actions,
and to place blame elsewhere.
All talk now is of PEACE! Where was their PEACE on December 7, 1941?
Typical of the Japs. And then some cockbite American comes on,
talking
about how many
Japanese lives were affected? Give me a break! How many American
lives
were affected
by the slant eyed **** throughout the entire war?
In my 41 or 42 years of SWL'ing, nothing has changed.
More **** from Japan.
dxAce
Michigan
USA
The dropping of the bomb saved millions of American and Jap lives
because it saved Japan from being invaded.Funny, they didn't mention
that.
The Japs started the damn war ! Funny, they didn't mention that
either........
They do seem to avoid certain realities. I was speaking with an
American rep from Fuji film two years ago, who mentioned that that extra
kick of blue in Fuji film, as well as the phosphors on Mitsubishi
television sets is there to keep native Japanese from looking so yellow
on camera.
And apparently they're so dishonored by their defeat that Mitsubishi
do not acknowledge, and have done everything possible to destroy
documentation for, the Zero.
They haven't forgotten the war. In a release meant only to be seen
by the eyes of Japanese captains of industry, the economic minister, in
the 70's, set out a plan whereby Japanese industry would overtake the US
and work to bankrupt, and humble the arrogant Americans in an economic
war that they (meaning we, the US) could not win.
For awhile it seemed that they would succeed. Paybacks, however,
being a bitch, saw otherwise.
That mindset, though, is still in play today, in the form of the
auto war betweenToyotaand General Motors....ironically, a microcosm of
the rivalry between Japan and the US....where if they'd join us as
allies, the potential for mutual benefit is dramatic. The alliance
betweenToyotaand GM in the 80's and 90's produced two ofToyota'smost
successful models. It also produced profits that enabledToyotato come
after GM today. And again, ironically, doing so by playing absent the
rules by which US manufacturers have to play.
You know, we rebuilt them after the war. W. Edwards Deming's (an
American) theories permitted their industry to return to strength in
less than 20 years, our own welcome mat generosity allowed them to
establish a base of operations in this country that has made Japan a
global economic power.
You'd think somewhere there might be a 'thank you.'
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Lets See . . .
Japan and the Japanese never Apologized
to China for the Rape of Nanking.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanking_Massacre
Japan and the Japanese never Apologized
to the Korean 'Comfort' Women.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comfort_women
Japan and the Japanese never Apologized
for the Bataan Death March and the Inhumain
Treatment of Prisoners of War - Slave Labor.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bataan_Death_March
http://www.rense.com/general8/pows.htm
and the japanese say we caused it all . . .
BULL SH*T ~ RHF
******************************************

And because of that and, of course, Pearl Harbor, I have NEVER owned a
Tore-Up-Yota, Honda, Nissan,
or Mitsubishi. Yes, I know that many parts are bought and used by American
auto makers, but I cannot help that. IMHO, to buy those makes is near
treason so far as I am concerned. Its almost impossible to buy purely
American products, but I try. So I quietly make a statement by driving
GMcars--particularly Chevrolet.

Some of us say, "OH! But Americancarsare no good!"
Horse hockey! I have driven MANY GMcars/trucks with a minimum of trouble
for 40 years, and some of them over 250,000 miles before succumbing to
"trading fever". A buddy of mine has an 86 Silverado with 450,000 miles on
it, replacing ONE engine and ONE tranny in 20 years. Gonna keep it, too!
In
fact, the older I get, the less need I see for buying newercarsand my
latest car is a Chevy S-10 with 161,000 (so it's relatively "new"). And,
like the rest of my Americancars, I have had FEW issues with it. In fact,
the things I have replaced in the last 7 years are normal wear
items--tires,
batteries, belts, an alternator, one ball joint---and the truck is 10 years
old! It has been a solid, reliable, relatively economical vehicle and,
should I replace it, it will be another pickup---probably another, newer
Chevy S-10. Heck if it breaks, I can fix it, and I STILL don't have a car
payment next month!!

So flame and criticize away. I AIN'T fergittin' and I ain't buyin no
Honda!~ :)

J



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On the other side of the coin I had a GMC pickup that was sucked at
60,000 miles and it was always maintained properly.

The rocker panels rusted out at 45,000miles,even though it was
rustproofed at the dealer ship
Also had a Ford F-150 v-8 and the front end needed a rebuild at 8000
miles and no these vehicles were never worked , strictly recreation
and everyday drivers,so that put me off NA products and I drive
NOTHING but Toyota and Honda now and dont have these early bio-
degradeable problems anymore............just normal wearout and
maintenence

And as far as buying Japanese cars is treason ?If you study the
archives in Washington D.C.you will discover that the US cut off the
oil to Japan in the far east thereby putting the Japenese backs to the
wall and forcing an attack on the US.

Ther are many hypothesis about Roosevelts actions and some say he did
this to get the US into the war to help out Great? Britain.

Otherwise the US public would NOT have approved of getting into ww11,
but Roosevelt needed something to fire up the populations anger....
thence their approval.
mred


My God what a nut case. Historical revisionism at its finest. Ya just
can't beat Usenet for the entertainment value.



The preparations for war were made far in advance of Pearl Harbour. The
US needed the attack in order to make an excuse for war.


================================================== ==
And, in early 1941, under instructions from FDR, a plan was designed for
initiating an aggressive war involving the firebombing of Japanese
cities in 1942. In the fall of 1941, the Japanese tried to offer a
variety of peace plans to the U.S. to forestall war, but the president
refused to consider any of them, including an offer by the Japanese
Prime Minister to meet FDR, anywhere the president chose, to find a way
to prevent war.

Fact: On January 27, 1941, the American ambassador to Japan warned
Washington that the Japanese were planning an attack on Pearl Harbor, if
negotiations broke down. Later in 1941, a Korean lobbyist, considered a
reliable source of information, twice warned that an attack on Pearl
Harbor was being planned during November and the first week of December
1941, including December 6, the American code-breakers had intercepted
Japanese messages that clearly pointed to an imminent attack on the
Hawaiian Islands. These intercepted messages were seen by FDR and other
cabinet members.

http://www.fff.org/freedom/0792d.asp
============================================

Brenda Ann August 11th 07 06:50 AM

(OT) : Did the US And The English Ever Apologized For . . .
 

"m II" wrote in message
news:OSbvi.101256$xk5.56283@edtnps82...
k35454 wrote:
"m II" wrote in message
news:amPui.83138$tB5.13819@edtnps90...
mred wrote:

Ther are many hypothesis about Roosevelts actions and some say he did
this to get the US into the war to help out Great? Britain.



Churchill wrote he prayed the night before for the attack on Pearl
Harbour to succeed because Roosevelt needed something to get public
opinion on his side.

Excuses for war and power grabbing totalitarianism are everywhere. The
Reichstag fire in 1933, the Polish attack on a German radio station in
1939 and more recently, 9-11, are only two examples. Note that these
events don't even have to be genuine, just well presented.

mike

"only two examples" ?? What do they do for math in AB ? miki.



There are three kinds of people..those that are good with numbers and
those that aren't...


There are 10 kinds of people: Those who understand base two, and those who
don't.



RHF August 11th 07 07:18 AM

(OT) : Did the US And The English Ever Apologized For . . .
 
On Aug 10, 10:50 pm, "Brenda Ann" wrote:
"m II" wrote in message

news:OSbvi.101256$xk5.56283@edtnps82...





k35454 wrote:
"m II" wrote in message
news:amPui.83138$tB5.13819@edtnps90...
mred wrote:


Ther are many hypothesis about Roosevelts actions and some say he did
this to get the US into the war to help out Great? Britain.


Churchill wrote he prayed the night before for the attack on Pearl
Harbour to succeed because Roosevelt needed something to get public
opinion on his side.


Excuses for war and power grabbing totalitarianism are everywhere. The
Reichstag fire in 1933, the Polish attack on a German radio station in
1939 and more recently, 9-11, are only two examples. Note that these
events don't even have to be genuine, just well presented.


mike


"only two examples" ?? What do they do for math in AB ? miki.


There are three kinds of people..those that are good with numbers and
those that aren't...


There are 10 kinds of people: Those who understand base two, and those who
don't.- Hide quoted text -

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NUMB3RS - I am One with One and
One is Good Enough for Me ~ RHF

RHF August 11th 07 07:25 AM

(OT) : Did Mike (M II) Ever Apologized For . . .
 
On Aug 9, 6:40 pm, m II wrote:
mred wrote:
Ther are many hypothesis about Roosevelts actions and some say he did
this to get the US into the war to help out Great? Britain.



- Churchill wrote he prayed the night before for the attack
- on Pearl Harbour to succeed because Roosevelt needed
- something to get public opinion on his side.

Mike (M II),

Is this what they taught you in School in Canada ?

Or did you make-it-up all on your own . . .

apparently your hate for america
has clouded your mind ~ RHF


Excuses for war and power grabbing totalitarianism are everywhere. The
Reichstag fire in 1933, the Polish attack on a German radio station in
1939 and more recently, 9-11, are only two examples. Note that these
events don't even have to be genuine, just well presented.

mike




k35454 August 11th 07 08:48 AM

(OT) : Did the US And The English Ever Apologized For . . .
 

"m II" wrote in message
news:OSbvi.101256$xk5.56283@edtnps82...
k35454 wrote:
"m II" wrote in message
news:amPui.83138$tB5.13819@edtnps90...
mred wrote:

Ther are many hypothesis about Roosevelts actions and some say he did
this to get the US into the war to help out Great? Britain.



Churchill wrote he prayed the night before for the attack on Pearl
Harbour to succeed because Roosevelt needed something to get public
opinion on his side.

Excuses for war and power grabbing totalitarianism are everywhere. The
Reichstag fire in 1933, the Polish attack on a German radio station in
1939 and more recently, 9-11, are only two examples. Note that these
events don't even have to be genuine, just well presented.

mike

"only two examples" ?? What do they do for math in AB ? miki.



There are three kinds of people..those that are good with numbers and
those that aren't...

mike


mike, you are too modest. I knew all along that it was a set-uip
to see if any of us wrere really paying attention. miki.











m II August 11th 07 08:59 AM

(OT) : Did Rat H. Fink Ever Apologize For . . .
 
RHF wrote:

apparently your hate for america
has clouded your mind ~ RHF



No hate..just sadness. It's depressing when a potentially great
experiment goes bad. It won't be the first country on earth to be driven
to evil by greed, however.



mike

dxAce August 11th 07 12:08 PM

(OT) : Did Rat H. Fink Ever Apologize For . . .
 


m II wrote:

RHF wrote:

apparently your hate for america
has clouded your mind ~ RHF


No hate..just sadness. It's depressing when a potentially great
experiment goes bad.


Like CanaDuh.

It won't be the first country on earth to be driven
to evil by greed, however.


Wasn't CanaDuh the first?



Burr August 11th 07 12:41 PM

? ? ? Missing Messages in the Thread ? ? ?
 

"RHF"
http://www.amazon.com/Making-Atomic-...dp/0684813785-
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? ? ? Missing Messages in the Thread ? ? ?
[ Using Google Newsgroups Online ]

On Google this Thread "Hiroshima" is listed
with 3 new posts with a Total of 44 Posts.

When I click-on it I only see 4 Post dated
back on Aug 5.

Is Anyone Else Seeing This Too ?

This is an example and I am seeing this
for many Message Threads for the last
Day or two. What Gives ?


i want to know ~ RHF
.
.
. .

My "mark read" thingy keeps re-setting!! I end up trying to read the same
thing twice.

This is happening on "ALL" news groups. Is it my computer???

Burr



David August 11th 07 03:14 PM

(OT) : Did Mike (M II) Ever Apologized For . . .
 
On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 23:25:15 -0700, RHF
wrote:

On Aug 9, 6:40 pm, m II wrote:
mred wrote:
Ther are many hypothesis about Roosevelts actions and some say he did
this to get the US into the war to help out Great? Britain.



- Churchill wrote he prayed the night before for the attack
- on Pearl Harbour to succeed because Roosevelt needed
- something to get public opinion on his side.

Mike (M II),

Is this what they taught you in School in Canada ?

Or did you make-it-up all on your own . . .

apparently your hate for america
has clouded your mind ~ RHF


Excuses for war and power grabbing totalitarianism are everywhere. The
Reichstag fire in 1933, the Polish attack on a German radio station in
1939 and more recently, 9-11, are only two examples. Note that these
events don't even have to be genuine, just well presented.

mike


Gulf of Tonkin. Battleship Maine.


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