On Aug 12, 4:46 pm, dxAce wrote:
wrote:
How many more tragedies am I going to have to post before you contact
your Senator and Congressman to demand immediate action?

As I've pleaded repeatedly for IT'S TIME TO END THE INSANITY AND
CONFISCATE GUNS! Guns have no place in a civilized society. How many
more innocent people are going to have to die before this nation
finally wakes up and does the inevitable - BAN GUNS!!!

If some of those folks had been carrying guns they might have taken the shooter
out after or even before they had killed one, let alone three people.

Pull your head out of your ass.

DX Ace,

Example of the Anti-Gun Liberal Media {News} Hysteria :
Dave McCracken, Neosho Police Chief is attributed to this
statement : "The gunman had two small-caliber handguns
and one 9 mm semi-automatic machine pistol with a large
magazine," McCracken said.

OMG - It's a Killing Machine ! - 9mm Semi-Automatic
"Machine" {Machine Gun} Pistol with a LARGE Magazine.
* Another Liberal Media Distortion About Guns.

Most members of the Anti-Gun Political Cadre believe
that the use of anything greater then the old Six-Shot
38 Police Revolver is Police Brutality and any 9mm
Semi-Auto with a 10-13 Round Clip is a Weapon of War.

Smith & Wesson M&P Standard 9mm Pistol
http://www.gunslot.com/guns/smith-we...p-standard-9mm
That's "M&P" as in Military and Police.

I Believe It Is The Right {and Duty} Of Each And Every
America Citizen To BEAR ARMS [.] ~ RHF
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_bear_arms

RHF wrote:
On Aug 12, 4:46 pm, dxAce wrote:
wrote:
How many more tragedies am I going to have to post before you contact
your Senator and Congressman to demand immediate action?
As I've pleaded repeatedly for IT'S TIME TO END THE INSANITY AND
CONFISCATE GUNS! Guns have no place in a civilized society. How many
more innocent people are going to have to die before this nation
finally wakes up and does the inevitable - BAN GUNS!!!
If some of those folks had been carrying guns they might have taken the shooter
out after or even before they had killed one, let alone three people.

Pull your head out of your ass.

DX Ace,

Example of the Anti-Gun Liberal Media {News} Hysteria :
Dave McCracken, Neosho Police Chief is attributed to this
statement : "The gunman had two small-caliber handguns
and one 9 mm semi-automatic machine pistol with a large
magazine," McCracken said.

OMG - It's a Killing Machine ! - 9mm Semi-Automatic
"Machine" {Machine Gun} Pistol with a LARGE Magazine.
* Another Liberal Media Distortion About Guns.

Most members of the Anti-Gun Political Cadre believe
that the use of anything greater then the old Six-Shot
38 Police Revolver is Police Brutality and any 9mm
Semi-Auto with a 10-13 Round Clip is a Weapon of War.

Smith & Wesson M&P Standard 9mm Pistol
http://www.gunslot.com/guns/smith-we...p-standard-9mm
That's "M&P" as in Military and Police.

I Believe It Is The Right {and Duty} Of Each And Every
America Citizen To BEAR ARMS [.] ~ RHF
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_bear_arms
.
.


The terms 'Semi-Automatic' and "Machine Pistol" are mutually
exclusive terms.

Actually so are "Machine" and "Pistol."

Semi-Automatic--for those not up to speed, means that one bullet is
fired every time the trigger is released, the cartridge casing is
ejected and a fresh cartridge chambered. In the context of a shoot,
there is no technical difference between the outcome of squeezing the
trigger on a revolver and a semi-auto.

One squeeze, one shot.

Nothing more.

To be a "Machine Gun," a weapon must fire fully automatically AND
must fire rifle cartridges. One squeeze and the weapons empties the
magazine of RIFLE cartridges.

The reason the Thompson Automatic (Eliot Ness's Tommy Gun) was
called a sub-machine gun, is because it fired pistol cartridges.
Specifically .45 ACP.

The only pistol of which I have experience firing a rifle bullet is
a Thompson Center Contender....which is single shot only.

Now, there are automatic pistols. Extremely hard to handle, and
virtually impossible to aim after the first cartridge is fired. But
those are not 'Machine Pistols.' And they are most certainly not
semi-automatic.

There were no "Machine Pistols" in the inventory taken after this
event.

The speaker is using the most inflammatory language to create fear
and motion in favor of an agenda.

It's the most reckless kind of yellow journalism.


The shooting itself is reprehensible enough. It does not require
embroidery.


And, since this is Rec.Radio.Shortwave....where did I learn all of
this? On shortwave radio.

Back when BBC was still a news organization.







. .

wrote:


Guns have no place in a civilized society.


Neither do gangs, drug runners, or people who shout on street
corners. Nor is there a place in civilized society for those who create
fear and hysteria by distorting the facts.

And yet,.....

Specifically referring to the Neosho Deputy who spoke before the
cameras, but referring in general to anyone who shouts distortions to
create sympathy for an unpopular agenda, the Deputy is heavily trained
in the technical knowledge, and proficient use and understanding of
firearms. For him to say what he said, publicly, is the most clear and
present reason why the people in this country fear police: What comes
out of their mouths is often not the truth.

But in a more general sense, anyone screaming for confiscation of
anything as a national policy has to do so through the same kinds of
distortions...and their credibility becomes, as well, suspect.

There is no place in a civilized society for such persons.







How many
more innocent people are going to have to die before this nation
finally wakes up and does the inevitable - BAN GUNS!!!


It's interesting how the same people who screamed until there was a
statutory requirement for smoke alarms and fire extinguishers in every
home are the first to scream about banning firearms.

Consider...the reason for the smoke alarm is to warn the family early
enough to take meaningful action to save home, hearth and lives. The
reason for the fire extinguisher is to help contain damage while the
fire department is in route.

And yet, when an armed soul wanders into a building known to be
unarmed, the fault is on the authorities who didn't arrive in time?

That's bull****. If you're going to have a fire extinguisher in every
home to hold back the flames while the fire department is enroute, you'd
be irresponsible not to have an accessible weapon on the grounds to hold
off unimpeded killings while the SWAT team is enroute.

Having a weapon accessible and in play INSIDE when such an event
breaks out, does two things immediately....1) it diverts attention of
the gunmen from killing the unarmed and innocent, to taking cover and
focussing on those who are shooting at him, and 2) it presents the only
real and immediate opportunity to stop his activities at the earliest
moments possible.

Banning guns, as the a number of Chicago suburbs have discovered is
the only way to a guaranteed certaintly to boost armed home invasions.

And sadly, nationwide, school shootings.

D Peter Maus wrote:

wrote:

Guns have no place in a civilized society.

Neither do gangs, drug runners, or people who shout on street
corners. Nor is there a place in civilized society for those who create
fear and hysteria by distorting the facts.

And yet,.....

Specifically referring to the Neosho Deputy who spoke before the
cameras, but referring in general to anyone who shouts distortions to
create sympathy for an unpopular agenda, the Deputy is heavily trained
in the technical knowledge, and proficient use and understanding of
firearms. For him to say what he said, publicly, is the most clear and
present reason why the people in this country fear police: What comes
out of their mouths is often not the truth.

But in a more general sense, anyone screaming for confiscation of
anything as a national policy has to do so through the same kinds of
distortions...and their credibility becomes, as well, suspect.

There is no place in a civilized society for such persons.

How many
more innocent people are going to have to die before this nation
finally wakes up and does the inevitable - BAN GUNS!!!

It's interesting how the same people who screamed until there was a
statutory requirement for smoke alarms and fire extinguishers in every
home are the first to scream about banning firearms.

Consider...the reason for the smoke alarm is to warn the family early
enough to take meaningful action to save home, hearth and lives. The
reason for the fire extinguisher is to help contain damage while the
fire department is in route.

And yet, when an armed soul wanders into a building known to be
unarmed, the fault is on the authorities who didn't arrive in time?

That's bull****. If you're going to have a fire extinguisher in every
home to hold back the flames while the fire department is enroute, you'd
be irresponsible not to have an accessible weapon on the grounds to hold
off unimpeded killings while the SWAT team is enroute.

Having a weapon accessible and in play INSIDE when such an event
breaks out, does two things immediately....1) it diverts attention of
the gunmen from killing the unarmed and innocent, to taking cover and
focussing on those who are shooting at him, and 2) it presents the only
real and immediate opportunity to stop his activities at the earliest
moments possible.

Banning guns, as the a number of Chicago suburbs have discovered is
the only way to a guaranteed certaintly to boost armed home invasions.

And sadly, nationwide, school shootings.

AK-47... the best anger management tool ever invented.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

Drake R7, R8, R8A and R8B
70' and 200' wires along with the Eavesdropper dipole
221 Countries verified and 237 heard using the NASWA Country List

I love, and have met, Marianne Faithfull, I also howl at the morning rain...

dxAce wrote:

D Peter Maus wrote:

wrote:
Guns have no place in a civilized society.
Neither do gangs, drug runners, or people who shout on street
corners. Nor is there a place in civilized society for those who create
fear and hysteria by distorting the facts.

And yet,.....

Specifically referring to the Neosho Deputy who spoke before the
cameras, but referring in general to anyone who shouts distortions to
create sympathy for an unpopular agenda, the Deputy is heavily trained
in the technical knowledge, and proficient use and understanding of
firearms. For him to say what he said, publicly, is the most clear and
present reason why the people in this country fear police: What comes
out of their mouths is often not the truth.

But in a more general sense, anyone screaming for confiscation of
anything as a national policy has to do so through the same kinds of
distortions...and their credibility becomes, as well, suspect.

There is no place in a civilized society for such persons.

How many
more innocent people are going to have to die before this nation
finally wakes up and does the inevitable - BAN GUNS!!!
It's interesting how the same people who screamed until there was a
statutory requirement for smoke alarms and fire extinguishers in every
home are the first to scream about banning firearms.

Consider...the reason for the smoke alarm is to warn the family early
enough to take meaningful action to save home, hearth and lives. The
reason for the fire extinguisher is to help contain damage while the
fire department is in route.

And yet, when an armed soul wanders into a building known to be
unarmed, the fault is on the authorities who didn't arrive in time?

That's bull****. If you're going to have a fire extinguisher in every
home to hold back the flames while the fire department is enroute, you'd
be irresponsible not to have an accessible weapon on the grounds to hold
off unimpeded killings while the SWAT team is enroute.

Having a weapon accessible and in play INSIDE when such an event
breaks out, does two things immediately....1) it diverts attention of
the gunmen from killing the unarmed and innocent, to taking cover and
focussing on those who are shooting at him, and 2) it presents the only
real and immediate opportunity to stop his activities at the earliest
moments possible.

Banning guns, as the a number of Chicago suburbs have discovered is
the only way to a guaranteed certaintly to boost armed home invasions.

And sadly, nationwide, school shootings.

AK-47... the best anger management tool ever invented.


I"m partial to Walthers, myself.




dxAce
Michigan
USA

Drake R7, R8, R8A and R8B
70' and 200' wires along with the Eavesdropper dipole
221 Countries verified and 237 heard using the NASWA Country List

I love, and have met, Marianne Faithfull, I also howl at the morning rain...

Tree minutes and ten seconds, Out of this World.I needs to go to my
WevTV female user name thangy and look that hottie teenage gal over some
more.Don't blame it on me.
cuhulin

In article ,
D Peter Maus wrote:

dxAce wrote:

D Peter Maus wrote:

wrote:
Guns have no place in a civilized society.
Neither do gangs, drug runners, or people who shout on street
corners. Nor is there a place in civilized society for those who create
fear and hysteria by distorting the facts.

And yet,.....

Specifically referring to the Neosho Deputy who spoke before the
cameras, but referring in general to anyone who shouts distortions to
create sympathy for an unpopular agenda, the Deputy is heavily trained
in the technical knowledge, and proficient use and understanding of
firearms. For him to say what he said, publicly, is the most clear and
present reason why the people in this country fear police: What comes
out of their mouths is often not the truth.

But in a more general sense, anyone screaming for confiscation of
anything as a national policy has to do so through the same kinds of
distortions...and their credibility becomes, as well, suspect.

There is no place in a civilized society for such persons.

How many
more innocent people are going to have to die before this nation
finally wakes up and does the inevitable - BAN GUNS!!!
It's interesting how the same people who screamed until there was a
statutory requirement for smoke alarms and fire extinguishers in every
home are the first to scream about banning firearms.

Consider...the reason for the smoke alarm is to warn the family early
enough to take meaningful action to save home, hearth and lives. The
reason for the fire extinguisher is to help contain damage while the
fire department is in route.

And yet, when an armed soul wanders into a building known to be
unarmed, the fault is on the authorities who didn't arrive in time?

That's bull****. If you're going to have a fire extinguisher in every
home to hold back the flames while the fire department is enroute, you'd
be irresponsible not to have an accessible weapon on the grounds to hold
off unimpeded killings while the SWAT team is enroute.

Having a weapon accessible and in play INSIDE when such an event
breaks out, does two things immediately....1) it diverts attention of
the gunmen from killing the unarmed and innocent, to taking cover and
focussing on those who are shooting at him, and 2) it presents the only
real and immediate opportunity to stop his activities at the earliest
moments possible.

Banning guns, as the a number of Chicago suburbs have discovered is
the only way to a guaranteed certaintly to boost armed home invasions.

And sadly, nationwide, school shootings.

AK-47... the best anger management tool ever invented.


I"m partial to Walthers, myself.

I like Para Ordance myself.
http://www.paraord.com/pages/main.html

Out of the box one gun was good but another needed a little polish on
the trigger parts for a smooth pull. They are a Canadian firm.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Telamon wrote:
In article ,
D Peter Maus wrote:

dxAce wrote:
D Peter Maus wrote:

wrote:
Guns have no place in a civilized society.
Neither do gangs, drug runners, or people who shout on street
corners. Nor is there a place in civilized society for those who create
fear and hysteria by distorting the facts.

And yet,.....

Specifically referring to the Neosho Deputy who spoke before the
cameras, but referring in general to anyone who shouts distortions to
create sympathy for an unpopular agenda, the Deputy is heavily trained
in the technical knowledge, and proficient use and understanding of
firearms. For him to say what he said, publicly, is the most clear and
present reason why the people in this country fear police: What comes
out of their mouths is often not the truth.

But in a more general sense, anyone screaming for confiscation of
anything as a national policy has to do so through the same kinds of
distortions...and their credibility becomes, as well, suspect.

There is no place in a civilized society for such persons.

How many
more innocent people are going to have to die before this nation
finally wakes up and does the inevitable - BAN GUNS!!!
It's interesting how the same people who screamed until there was a
statutory requirement for smoke alarms and fire extinguishers in every
home are the first to scream about banning firearms.

Consider...the reason for the smoke alarm is to warn the family early
enough to take meaningful action to save home, hearth and lives. The
reason for the fire extinguisher is to help contain damage while the
fire department is in route.

And yet, when an armed soul wanders into a building known to be
unarmed, the fault is on the authorities who didn't arrive in time?

That's bull****. If you're going to have a fire extinguisher in every
home to hold back the flames while the fire department is enroute, you'd
be irresponsible not to have an accessible weapon on the grounds to hold
off unimpeded killings while the SWAT team is enroute.

Having a weapon accessible and in play INSIDE when such an event
breaks out, does two things immediately....1) it diverts attention of
the gunmen from killing the unarmed and innocent, to taking cover and
focussing on those who are shooting at him, and 2) it presents the only
real and immediate opportunity to stop his activities at the earliest
moments possible.

Banning guns, as the a number of Chicago suburbs have discovered is
the only way to a guaranteed certaintly to boost armed home invasions.

And sadly, nationwide, school shootings.
AK-47... the best anger management tool ever invented.

I"m partial to Walthers, myself.

I like Para Ordance myself.
http://www.paraord.com/pages/main.html

Out of the box one gun was good but another needed a little polish on
the trigger parts for a smooth pull. They are a Canadian firm.


Pull to the left, do they?

On Aug 13, 7:27 pm, Telamon
wrote:
In article ,
D Peter Maus wrote:





dxAce wrote:

D Peter Maus wrote:

wrote:
Guns have no place in a civilized society.
Neither do gangs, drug runners, or people who shout on street
corners. Nor is there a place in civilized society for those who create
fear and hysteria by distorting the facts.

And yet,.....

Specifically referring to the Neosho Deputy who spoke before the
cameras, but referring in general to anyone who shouts distortions to
create sympathy for an unpopular agenda, the Deputy is heavily trained
in the technical knowledge, and proficient use and understanding of
firearms. For him to say what he said, publicly, is the most clear and
present reason why the people in this country fear police: What comes
out of their mouths is often not the truth.

But in a more general sense, anyone screaming for confiscation of
anything as a national policy has to do so through the same kinds of
distortions...and their credibility becomes, as well, suspect.

There is no place in a civilized society for such persons.

How many
more innocent people are going to have to die before this nation
finally wakes up and does the inevitable - BAN GUNS!!!
It's interesting how the same people who screamed until there was a
statutory requirement for smoke alarms and fire extinguishers in every
home are the first to scream about banning firearms.

Consider...the reason for the smoke alarm is to warn the family early
enough to take meaningful action to save home, hearth and lives. The
reason for the fire extinguisher is to help contain damage while the
fire department is in route.

And yet, when an armed soul wanders into a building known to be
unarmed, the fault is on the authorities who didn't arrive in time?

That's bull****. If you're going to have a fire extinguisher in every
home to hold back the flames while the fire department is enroute, you'd
be irresponsible not to have an accessible weapon on the grounds to hold
off unimpeded killings while the SWAT team is enroute.

Having a weapon accessible and in play INSIDE when such an event
breaks out, does two things immediately....1) it diverts attention of
the gunmen from killing the unarmed and innocent, to taking cover and
focussing on those who are shooting at him, and 2) it presents the only
real and immediate opportunity to stop his activities at the earliest
moments possible.

Banning guns, as the a number of Chicago suburbs have discovered is
the only way to a guaranteed certaintly to boost armed home invasions.

And sadly, nationwide, school shootings.

AK-47... the best anger management tool ever invented.

I"m partial to Walthers, myself.

I like Para Ordance myself.
http://www.paraord.com/pages/main.html

Out of the box one gun was good but another needed a little polish on
the trigger parts for a smooth pull. They are a Canadian firm.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

OMG - Canadians Making Killer Hand Guns
Mike (M II) Say It Ain't So . . . ~ RHF

In article ,
dxAce wrote:

D Peter Maus wrote:

wrote:

Guns have no place in a civilized society.

Neither do gangs, drug runners, or people who shout on street
corners. Nor is there a place in civilized society for those who create
fear and hysteria by distorting the facts.

And yet,.....

Specifically referring to the Neosho Deputy who spoke before the
cameras, but referring in general to anyone who shouts distortions to
create sympathy for an unpopular agenda, the Deputy is heavily trained
in the technical knowledge, and proficient use and understanding of
firearms. For him to say what he said, publicly, is the most clear and
present reason why the people in this country fear police: What comes
out of their mouths is often not the truth.

But in a more general sense, anyone screaming for confiscation of
anything as a national policy has to do so through the same kinds of
distortions...and their credibility becomes, as well, suspect.

There is no place in a civilized society for such persons.

How many
more innocent people are going to have to die before this nation
finally wakes up and does the inevitable - BAN GUNS!!!

It's interesting how the same people who screamed until there was a
statutory requirement for smoke alarms and fire extinguishers in every
home are the first to scream about banning firearms.

Consider...the reason for the smoke alarm is to warn the family early
enough to take meaningful action to save home, hearth and lives. The
reason for the fire extinguisher is to help contain damage while the
fire department is in route.

And yet, when an armed soul wanders into a building known to be
unarmed, the fault is on the authorities who didn't arrive in time?

That's bull****. If you're going to have a fire extinguisher in every
home to hold back the flames while the fire department is enroute, you'd
be irresponsible not to have an accessible weapon on the grounds to hold
off unimpeded killings while the SWAT team is enroute.

Having a weapon accessible and in play INSIDE when such an event
breaks out, does two things immediately....1) it diverts attention of
the gunmen from killing the unarmed and innocent, to taking cover and
focussing on those who are shooting at him, and 2) it presents the only
real and immediate opportunity to stop his activities at the earliest
moments possible.

Banning guns, as the a number of Chicago suburbs have discovered is
the only way to a guaranteed certaintly to boost armed home invasions.

And sadly, nationwide, school shootings.

AK-47... the best anger management tool ever invented.

I'll stick with the Garand I purchased from the DCM program (now CMP). I
had to put a but pad on it so I would not get bruised firing it. .30-06
is one mean round.

http://www.odcmp.com/Services/Rifles/m1garand.htm

.30-06 is one mean round. The M1 is one awesome rifle.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California