"dxAce" wrote in message
...


I now see HD as perhaps the _only_ hope for AM radio to survive.

Wow... even more Frackeltonian Thinking!


OK, genius... how do you suggest that AM radio stations reverse the
downtrend in total listening and the fact that only people over 50 use them,
for the most part? I'm sure you have a plan, or you would not so brashly
dismiss people actually in the business who are working to preserve the
viability of AM.

David Frackelton Gleason, "My thought processes are so screwed up that I not
only believe in failed technology, I actually think one of my names is
'Eduardo'", wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


I now see HD as perhaps the _only_ hope for AM radio to survive.

Wow... even more Frackeltonian Thinking!


OK, genius... how do you suggest that AM radio stations reverse the
downtrend in total listening and the fact that only people over 50 use them,
for the most part? I'm sure you have a plan, or you would not so brashly
dismiss people actually in the business who are working to preserve the
viability of AM.

Yeah, by messing up the band with failed technology.

Now that is Frackeltonian Thinking!

"IBOCcrock" wrote in message
ups.com...
On Sep 3, 12:44?pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Steve" wrote in message

ps.com...



Sounds like you've finally matured a bit and now see the merits of FM
and the folly of HD-AM. Congratulations.

Quite the contrary. It has been known by broadcasters for some time that
there is no way to get any significant number of listeners under 55 to
tune
to AM, and the average age of AM listeners is increasing each year as a
consequence.

Some AMs have moved to FM. Others are simulcasting. Others have no FM to
move to, and are slowly losing revenue.

Those AMs have, perhaps, some chance to survive via HD. Otherwise, AM
will
be pretty much a thing of the past and only relevant or viable for very
niche formats or in some rural areas where there are no local FMs. Of
course, this is not an immediate do or die type thing; HD can develop
over
the next few years and AMs can attempt to restore some interest among
under-55s via the improved quality.

INSIDERADIO: "INSIDE STORY: News/Talk/Sports: Radio's Last Bastion"

"Music FMs of any flavor are utterly screwed... Which is why News/Talk/
Sports is radio's last bastion... Right now -- while FMs are losing
the music audience to new media -- satellite radio is offering more
News/Talk/Sports programming than we can fit on AM radio...
Accordingly, I urge owners of AM/FM clusters which include a News/Talk/
Sports AM to drop an FM music format and simulcast the News/Talk/
Sports AM... Imagine how smart you will look if -- suddenly -- your
entire market can now hear the News/Talk/Sports assets which are
radio's most-Sales-friendly programming..."

Claiming that AM radio is dying, when the music FMs are screwed - yea,
IBOC, with its jamming and poor coverage, is going to same AM ! You
are nothing more than an IBOC shill-parrot !


That quote is from an interview (probably with Walt Sabo or Holland Cooke)
with a consultant who wants to sell stations services that involve
converting FMs to talk. It is not the opinion of Inside Radio. Man, even
your quotes are misquoted. Of course that person is going to dismiss music
radio, as he sells talk radio services.

The fact is that FMs playing music are not screwed... those with good
content and good music will work no matter what the distribution method
is... FM, WiMax, etc. The ones that are jukeboxes with an antennas will not
do as well, although there will be a market for free radio for many many
years if not decades.

HD jams little or nothing that is actually relevant or being listened to. HD
digital coverage is as good as the analog "usable" coverage of an AM (around
10 mv/m in metros) and the newer chipsets perform much better than the
pretty dreadful first generation radios that came out in the first wave. In
fact, on my third generation car radio I get LA's KNX in HD to beyond its 5
mv/m contour... where the analog signal is subject to lots of noise, the HD
is clear. But don't let facts mess with your agenda.

"Steve" wrote in message
ups.com...

As to youth, 96% of 12-24 year olds use radio. Less than before? Yes. But
radio is still a very viable means to reach young adult demographics.-
Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Yeah, you keep dreaming. I hear that record albums are also going to
make a comeback. lol

Your opinion vs. hundreds of thousands of Arbitron diarykeepers each
quarter.

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Frackelton Gleason, "My thought processes are so screwed up that I
not
only believe in failed technology, I actually think one of my names is
'Eduardo'", wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


I now see HD as perhaps the _only_ hope for AM radio to survive.

Wow... even more Frackeltonian Thinking!


OK, genius... how do you suggest that AM radio stations reverse the
downtrend in total listening and the fact that only people over 50 use
them,
for the most part? I'm sure you have a plan, or you would not so brashly
dismiss people actually in the business who are working to preserve the
viability of AM.

Yeah, by messing up the band with failed technology.

The band is already "messed up" by the FCC licensing too many stations that
have never been viable. You do know, I hope, that during the entire period
that data was available, from the mid-50's to the mid-90's, half of all US
radio stations did not make money?

Today, there are few AMs that can survive for long... mostly the big high
power or non-directional metro stations, or rural AMs in underserved
communities.

Making jokes about "failed" technologies that are, in fact, at the very
beginning of their development helps in no conceivable way.

David "Damn, I'm having a hard time here trying to persuade these folks that
HD/IBOC is the way of the future like my handlers told me to do. Oh well, I can
always fall back on my 'Eduardo' shtick", wrote:

"IBOCcrock" wrote in message
ups.com...
On Sep 3, 12:44?pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Steve" wrote in message

ps.com...



Sounds like you've finally matured a bit and now see the merits of FM
and the folly of HD-AM. Congratulations.

Quite the contrary. It has been known by broadcasters for some time that
there is no way to get any significant number of listeners under 55 to
tune
to AM, and the average age of AM listeners is increasing each year as a
consequence.

Some AMs have moved to FM. Others are simulcasting. Others have no FM to
move to, and are slowly losing revenue.

Those AMs have, perhaps, some chance to survive via HD. Otherwise, AM
will
be pretty much a thing of the past and only relevant or viable for very
niche formats or in some rural areas where there are no local FMs. Of
course, this is not an immediate do or die type thing; HD can develop
over
the next few years and AMs can attempt to restore some interest among
under-55s via the improved quality.

INSIDERADIO: "INSIDE STORY: News/Talk/Sports: Radio's Last Bastion"

"Music FMs of any flavor are utterly screwed... Which is why News/Talk/
Sports is radio's last bastion... Right now -- while FMs are losing
the music audience to new media -- satellite radio is offering more
News/Talk/Sports programming than we can fit on AM radio...
Accordingly, I urge owners of AM/FM clusters which include a News/Talk/
Sports AM to drop an FM music format and simulcast the News/Talk/
Sports AM... Imagine how smart you will look if -- suddenly -- your
entire market can now hear the News/Talk/Sports assets which are
radio's most-Sales-friendly programming..."

Claiming that AM radio is dying, when the music FMs are screwed - yea,
IBOC, with its jamming and poor coverage, is going to same AM ! You
are nothing more than an IBOC shill-parrot !


That quote is from an interview (probably with Walt Sabo or Holland Cooke)
with a consultant who wants to sell stations services that involve
converting FMs to talk. It is not the opinion of Inside Radio. Man, even
your quotes are misquoted. Of course that person is going to dismiss music
radio, as he sells talk radio services.

The fact is that FMs playing music are not screwed... those with good
content and good music will work no matter what the distribution method
is... FM, WiMax, etc. The ones that are jukeboxes with an antennas will not
do as well, although there will be a market for free radio for many many
years if not decades.

HD jams little or nothing that is actually relevant or being listened to. HD
digital coverage is as good as the analog "usable" coverage of an AM (around
10 mv/m in metros) and the newer chipsets perform much better than the
pretty dreadful first generation radios that came out in the first wave. In
fact, on my third generation car radio I get LA's KNX in HD to beyond its 5
mv/m contour... where the analog signal is subject to lots of noise, the HD
is clear. But don't let facts mess with your agenda.

That's right, don't let the facts dissuade you from claiming that you're
Hispanic!

LMFAO

dxAce
Michigan
USA

David "I'm gonna hype this crap no matter what anybody says cause I'm a
fruit-loop who also poses as 'Eduardo'", wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Frackelton Gleason, "My thought processes are so screwed up that I
not
only believe in failed technology, I actually think one of my names is
'Eduardo'", wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


I now see HD as perhaps the _only_ hope for AM radio to survive.

Wow... even more Frackeltonian Thinking!


OK, genius... how do you suggest that AM radio stations reverse the
downtrend in total listening and the fact that only people over 50 use
them,
for the most part? I'm sure you have a plan, or you would not so brashly
dismiss people actually in the business who are working to preserve the
viability of AM.

Yeah, by messing up the band with failed technology.

The band is already "messed up" by the FCC licensing too many stations that
have never been viable. You do know, I hope, that during the entire period
that data was available, from the mid-50's to the mid-90's, half of all US
radio stations did not make money?

Today, there are few AMs that can survive for long... mostly the big high
power or non-directional metro stations, or rural AMs in underserved
communities.

Making jokes about "failed" technologies that are, in fact, at the very
beginning of their development helps in no conceivable way.

Well, it is failed technology no matter how much you are paid to hype it.

Please, run along, and practice your toe tapping code.

On Sep 3, 1:55 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Steve" wrote in message

ups.com...



As to youth, 96% of 12-24 year olds use radio. Less than before? Yes. But
radio is still a very viable means to reach young adult demographics.-
Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Yeah, you keep dreaming. I hear that record albums are also going to
make a comeback. lol

Your opinion vs. hundreds of thousands of Arbitron diarykeepers each
quarter.

The "diarykeepers" don't think that record albums will come back?

On Sep 3, 1:58 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"dxAce" wrote in message

...







David Frackelton Gleason, "My thought processes are so screwed up that I
not
only believe in failed technology, I actually think one of my names is
'Eduardo'", wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...

I now see HD as perhaps the _only_ hope for AM radio to survive.

Wow... even more Frackeltonian Thinking!

OK, genius... how do you suggest that AM radio stations reverse the
downtrend in total listening and the fact that only people over 50 use
them,
for the most part? I'm sure you have a plan, or you would not so brashly
dismiss people actually in the business who are working to preserve the
viability of AM.

Yeah, by messing up the band with failed technology.

The band is already "messed up" by the FCC licensing too many stations that
have never been viable. You do know, I hope, that during the entire period
that data was available, from the mid-50's to the mid-90's, half of all US
radio stations did not make money?

Today, there are few AMs that can survive for long... mostly the big high
power or non-directional metro stations, or rural AMs in underserved
communities.

Making jokes about "failed" technologies that are, in fact, at the very
beginning of their development helps in no conceivable way.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Whose joking? Even the horse and buggy is a new technology of you
compare it to, say, the lever and fulcrum.

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


That's right, don't let the facts dissuade you from claiming that you're
Hispanic!


"Hispanic" is a culture. A person who spends 80% of their life, and all of
their adult life in a culture will be of that culture.