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On Sep 3, 1:55 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
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As to youth, 96% of 12-24 year olds use radio. Less than before? Yes.
But
radio is still a very viable means to reach young adult demographics.-
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Yeah, you keep dreaming. I hear that record albums are also going to
make a comeback. lol


Your opinion vs. hundreds of thousands of Arbitron diarykeepers each
quarter.


The "diarykeepers" don't think that record albums will come back?


No, but they are responsible for the placement of most of the $21 billion
dollars in radio advertising each year.

www.arbitron.com

"Cleverness" about record albums (still a term of the trade used by "record
companies" to refer to their product) will not change the fact that all the
recognized data about radio usage today contradicts your totally
un-supported opinions.


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David "Yes, I am bat **** crazy, that's why I pose as 'Eduardo'", wrote:

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That's right, don't let the facts dissuade you from claiming that you're
Hispanic!


"Hispanic" is a culture. A person who spends 80% of their life, and all of
their adult life in a culture will be of that culture.


Or pretend to be, as you do.

Now, as I suggested earlier, please run along and practice your toe tapping
code.


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On Sep 3, 1:58 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
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Making jokes about "failed" technologies that are, in fact, at the very
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But it doesn't hurt in any conceivable way either, does it? Well,
except for people, like you, who are out to make money off of HD.

I think it could actually be a great thing if AM stations die. Think
how fascinating it will be to see what springs up in their place on
the MW band. Pirates, perhaps? New utilities? The possibilities are
endless.

Please don't stand in the way of this Golden Age.

Please stop living in the past.

Please stop trying to block progress.

And please keep your feet to yourself in the men's room stalls.


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David "Yes, I am bat **** crazy, that's why I pose as 'Eduardo'", wrote:

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That's right, don't let the facts dissuade you from claiming that
you're
Hispanic!


"Hispanic" is a culture. A person who spends 80% of their life, and all
of
their adult life in a culture will be of that culture.


Or pretend to be, as you do.


A person can not pretend to be of a cultural group. For example, many second
generation US Hispanics are bicultural, and have elements of both "American"
culture and Hispanic culture. In many cases, such people are really of a
third, distinct culture, which is based on being bilingual and speaking a
"special" language that is a mix of English and Spanish.

In any case, culture is acquired by the individual by exposure... anyone who
is nearly 100% immersed in a culture from an early age is going to be of
that culture about 99%.

Since you are unemployed, you might take some time to study cultural
anthropology and sociology. It would benefit you greatly; I've seldom
encountered an international DXer with such a mean and horrible cultural
bias and such a total lack of understanding of any language but American
English. Burdick and Lederer were writing about you and those like you.


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People under 50 to 55 will just not listen to the quality of AM radio.


Wouldn't have anything to do with the whole dial being full of
bloviating right wing programming, would it?


The current programming is the only thing that still works on AM. Talk on
the other side of the spectrum has failed miserably in many, many markets...

What else do you suggest (and i can probably count the hundreds of times it
has been tried and failed for you).




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Try to gag me,,,,,, I will shoot your ass!!!
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Nope, not any single person's thinking. It is the data from Arbitron in
the
first two People Metered markets.


How can you be sure that Arbitron or Neil son or whomever,
actually does a survey, and how many respondents really are there,
and is their claimed demographic true or just wishful thinking?
That's the level of unsubstantiated faith
that packs 'em into the god houses every sunday
and drains their wallets.


Unlike communication with God, Arbitron and Nielsen are audited by a
committee of researchers and statisticians named by the advertising industry
which has a vested interest in the outcome of ratings. The methodology has
to be extensively proven (6 years of field tests for the People Meter) to
get approval, and every year an extensive audit of the sample,
themethodology and the processing is done.

For the diary-based survey, all subscribers can actually see the completed
diaries for each market and check every page. This has been true for 4
decades, and Arbitron has a suite of 10 offices where one can perform as
many checks as they want.

The fact that nobody in the ad business questions the surveys would indicate
that each person has satisfied all these "conspiracy" questions long ago.


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On Sep 3, 2:36 pm, Bart Bailey wrote:
In posted on
Mon, 3 Sep 2007 08:01:33 -0700, David Eduardo wrote: Begin

People under 50 to 55 will just not listen to the quality of AM radio.


Wouldn't have anything to do with the whole dial being full of
bloviating right wing programming, would it?

--

Bart


Lol. It's Tardo's wet dream that we all end up listening to hour long
informerials about colloidal silver and human growth hormone in
digital.

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On Sep 3, 2:48 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
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People under 50 to 55 will just not listen to the quality of AM radio.


Wouldn't have anything to do with the whole dial being full of
bloviating right wing programming, would it?


The current programming is the only thing that still works on AM.


You see, what you fail to grasp is that it is not working. AM is
rapidly dying. It is losing every demographic except perhaps those who
are 50+. You really need to face facts and stop living in the past.
You sound like you're still in 1943.

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On Sep 3, 2:48 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
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In posted on
Mon, 3 Sep 2007 08:01:33 -0700, David Eduardo wrote: Begin


People under 50 to 55 will just not listen to the quality of AM radio.


Wouldn't have anything to do with the whole dial being full of
bloviating right wing programming, would it?


The current programming is the only thing that still works on AM. Talk on
the other side of the spectrum has failed miserably in many, many markets...

What else do you suggest (and i can probably count the hundreds of times it
has been tried and failed for you).


I suggest doing absolutely nothing. AM is dying. Let it die. Stop
living in the past. Embrace the future. Accept progress because it is
inevitable. You have to realize that time does not stand still for
anyone, not even Ibiquity's stockholders.


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