"Bart Bailey" wrote in message
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hundreds of thousands of Arbitron diarykeepers

Now, that's marketing hype if ever there was!
probably only a handful of bored trailer trash that even respond,
thinking there must be a catch, and if guess correctly, they could win.


The sample size is published in each ratings report. The socioeconomic
levels match the market, the ages match, the ethnicity matches, the
geography matches.

And we can see every diary for every market that we are licensed for... I
have been looking at them for 37 years, and never spotted "missing diaries"
or any other irregularity.

Every market has a diary target, and the targets are met within a few
percent every time (or the report is cancelled, like New Orleans at the time
of Katrina).

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On Sep 3, 2:36 pm, Bart Bailey wrote:
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People under 50 to 55 will just not listen to the quality of AM radio.

Wouldn't have anything to do with the whole dial being full of
bloviating right wing programming, would it?

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Bart

Lol. It's Tardo's wet dream that we all end up listening to hour long
informerials about colloidal silver and human growth hormone in
digital.


The reason you hear these and the reason why you think them funny is that
infomercials and brokered slots are what sustain a large percentage of AM
stations today.

David "Yeah, I'm still trying to sell this HD/IBOC crap, and pose as 'Eduardo'
at the same time", wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
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David "Yes, I am bat **** crazy, that's why I pose as 'Eduardo'", wrote:

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That's right, don't let the facts dissuade you from claiming that
you're
Hispanic!


"Hispanic" is a culture. A person who spends 80% of their life, and all
of
their adult life in a culture will be of that culture.

Or pretend to be, as you do.

A person can not pretend to be of a cultural group. For example, many second
generation US Hispanics are bicultural, and have elements of both "American"
culture and Hispanic culture. In many cases, such people are really of a
third, distinct culture, which is based on being bilingual and speaking a
"special" language that is a mix of English and Spanish.

In any case, culture is acquired by the individual by exposure... anyone who
is nearly 100% immersed in a culture from an early age is going to be of
that culture about 99%.

Since you are unemployed, you might take some time to study cultural
anthropology and sociology.

Already took a whole bunch of classes. Ya see Edweenie, I actually have a
college degree. And, I'm not unemployed, I'm retired.

It would benefit you greatly; I've seldom
encountered an international DXer with such a mean and horrible cultural
bias and such a total lack of understanding of any language but American
English. Burdick and Lederer were writing about you and those like you.

Sigmund Freud wrote about you, and those like you:

Bat **** crazy!

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On Sep 3, 2:48 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Bart Bailey" wrote in message

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In posted on
Mon, 3 Sep 2007 08:01:33 -0700, David Eduardo wrote: Begin

People under 50 to 55 will just not listen to the quality of AM radio.

Wouldn't have anything to do with the whole dial being full of
bloviating right wing programming, would it?

The current programming is the only thing that still works on AM.

You see, what you fail to grasp is that it is not working. AM is
rapidly dying. It is losing every demographic except perhaps those who
are 50+. You really need to face facts and stop living in the past.
You sound like you're still in 1943.


I have already stated that nearly all AM audience is over 45, and a majority
over 55. That is the problem; the only fix is to broaden the appeal of AM
via HD because under-55's will listen to the existing content but will not
listen to AM quality.

On Sep 3, 3:08 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Bart Bailey" wrote in message

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In posted on
Mon, 3 Sep 2007 10:55:25 -0700, David Eduardo wrote: Begin

hundreds of thousands of Arbitron diarykeepers

Now, that's marketing hype if ever there was!
probably only a handful of bored trailer trash that even respond,
thinking there must be a catch, and if guess correctly, they could win.

The sample size is published in each ratings report. The socioeconomic
levels match the market, the ages match, the ethnicity matches, the
geography matches.

And we can see every diary for every market that we are licensed for... I
have been looking at them for 37 years, and never spotted "missing diaries"
or any other irregularity.

Every market has a diary target, and the targets are met within a few
percent every time (or the report is cancelled, like New Orleans at the time
of Katrina).

Sounds like you should go into a new business recycling all of these
diaries. At least then you'd be in a business with a future.

You're never going to talk people out of progress. Time marches on.
Deal with it.

On Sep 3, 3:11 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
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On Sep 3, 2:48 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Bart Bailey" wrote in message

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In posted on
Mon, 3 Sep 2007 08:01:33 -0700, David Eduardo wrote: Begin

People under 50 to 55 will just not listen to the quality of AM radio.

Wouldn't have anything to do with the whole dial being full of
bloviating right wing programming, would it?

The current programming is the only thing that still works on AM.

You see, what you fail to grasp is that it is not working. AM is
rapidly dying. It is losing every demographic except perhaps those who
are 50+. You really need to face facts and stop living in the past.
You sound like you're still in 1943.

I have already stated that nearly all AM audience is over 45, and a majority
over 55. That is the problem; the only fix is to broaden the appeal of AM
via HD because under-55's will listen to the existing content but will not
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Yes, but the point obviously hasn't taken hold of you yet because you
still insist on living in the past. AM is dead, so let it go and
embrace newer technologies. I don't think you appreciate the sorry
state of AM programming today.

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On Sep 3, 2:48 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Bart Bailey" wrote in message

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In posted on
Mon, 3 Sep 2007 08:01:33 -0700, David Eduardo wrote: Begin

People under 50 to 55 will just not listen to the quality of AM radio.

Wouldn't have anything to do with the whole dial being full of
bloviating right wing programming, would it?

The current programming is the only thing that still works on AM. Talk on
the other side of the spectrum has failed miserably in many, many
markets...

What else do you suggest (and i can probably count the hundreds of times
it
has been tried and failed for you).

I suggest doing absolutely nothing. AM is dying. Let it die. Stop
living in the past. Embrace the future. Accept progress because it is
inevitable. You have to realize that time does not stand still for
anyone, not even Ibiquity's stockholders.

iBiquity has only about 8 or 10 shareholders... and "they are us" to some
extent. Many larger radio companies helped finance the establishment of
iBiquity based on the the AT&T / Lucent wpork and patents. The reason, over
10 years ago, was to find a way to offer digital services on band for AM and
FM. Separate AM solutions had been proven not to work back with C Quam AM
stereo, so the decision was reached that AM, already in decline, would only
have a chance if it rode on a technology that FM would push... the problem
with AM is the audio quality and analog noise, and HD fixes that quite
handsomely.

On Sep 3, 3:10 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
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On Sep 3, 2:36 pm, Bart Bailey wrote:
In posted on
Mon, 3 Sep 2007 08:01:33 -0700, David Eduardo wrote: Begin

People under 50 to 55 will just not listen to the quality of AM radio.

Wouldn't have anything to do with the whole dial being full of
bloviating right wing programming, would it?

--

Bart

Lol. It's Tardo's wet dream that we all end up listening to hour long
informerials about colloidal silver and human growth hormone in
digital.

The reason you hear these and the reason why you think them funny is that
infomercials and brokered slots are what sustain a large percentage of AM
stations today.- Hide quoted text -

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The reason this type of programming sustains a large percentage of AM
stations today is because AM has lost practically all of its listeners
who are below the age of 50. The younger listeners are no longer there
and this is a fact whether you accept it or not.

"Bart Bailey" wrote in message
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"Bart Bailey" wrote in message
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spectrum has failed miserably in many, many markets...

What else do you suggest (and i can probably count the hundreds of times
it
has been tried and failed for you).


A true left of center format, not some watered down Rush style screed
from a pseudo left station owned by a mega corp like Clear Channel, I'm
talking about KLSD 1360 here. Say, if a true left format like Pacifica
is so benign, why did the right wing conspiritors of xlnc have to plop
down on KPFK's freq?

KPFK had no guaranteed or protected coverage in San Diego county, by US or
any other law. Grandfathered stations are protected to the extent of a
compliant Class B in Los Angeles, and that means to about San Juan
Capistrano in Orange County, so XHLNC is totally legal... and was founded
and owned by a member of Mexico's most liberal party at the time... the PRI.

KPFK hardly has any listeners in LA, and did not register any in San Diego
prior to XHLNC going on.

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On Sep 3, 2:48 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Bart Bailey" wrote in message

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In posted on
Mon, 3 Sep 2007 08:01:33 -0700, David Eduardo wrote: Begin

People under 50 to 55 will just not listen to the quality of AM radio.

Wouldn't have anything to do with the whole dial being full of
bloviating right wing programming, would it?

The current programming is the only thing that still works on AM. Talk on
the other side of the spectrum has failed miserably in many, many
markets...

What else do you suggest (and i can probably count the hundreds of times
it
has been tried and failed for you).

I suggest doing absolutely nothing. AM is dying. Let it die. Stop
living in the past. Embrace the future. Accept progress because it is
inevitable. You have to realize that time does not stand still for
anyone, not even Ibiquity's stockholders.

iBiquity has only about 8 or 10 shareholders... and "they are us" to some
extent. Many larger radio companies helped finance the establishment of
iBiquity based on the the AT&T / Lucent wpork and patents. The reason, over
10 years ago, was to find a way to offer digital services on band for AM and
FM. Separate AM solutions had been proven not to work back with C Quam AM
stereo, so the decision was reached that AM, already in decline, would only
have a chance if it rode on a technology that FM would push... the problem
with AM is the audio quality and analog noise, and HD fixes that quite
handsomely.



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And a pillow will make a horse-drawn carriage ride better. Good luck
with that.