On Sep 16, 7:18 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
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On Sep 16, 1:52 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
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The investment was less in cost than the last new studio we built in
LA...
one single studio (out of 16)... so the issue is not the investment,
which
is minor. The issue is moving terrestrial, free, radio into the
digital
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The issue is moving lots and lots of money into the pockets of
stockholders.

No, it is not.

Yes, it is.

If there are no publicly traded shares to establish a price, any share
transactions are negotiated between the existing shareholders. Options and
similar executive incentives are only of value when exercised. Since there
have been no changes in the existing ownership, there is no opportunity for
any profits. And since iBiquity is not profitable, there are no dividends,
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And are you saying that IBiquity wants and intends to remain
unprofitable?

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On Sep 16, 7:18 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:

And are you saying that IBiquity wants and intends to remain
unprofitable?


It's a developmental startup.

Satellite radio began development in the early 90's, and is losing about a
billion dollars a year... yet the companies involved believe they can be
profitable in the future and give value to the shareholders.

On Sep 16, 7:43 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
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On Sep 16, 7:18 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:

And are you saying that IBiquity wants and intends to remain
unprofitable?

It's a developmental startup.

Satellite radio began development in the early 90's, and is losing about a
billion dollars a year... yet the companies involved believe they can be
profitable in the future and give value to the shareholders.

Right. It's about the money.

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On Sep 16, 7:43 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
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On Sep 16, 7:18 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:

And are you saying that IBiquity wants and intends to remain
unprofitable?

It's a developmental startup.

Satellite radio began development in the early 90's, and is losing about
a
billion dollars a year... yet the companies involved believe they can be
profitable in the future and give value to the shareholders.

Right. It's about the money.

Without money, there is no free radio. You can always pay $150 a year for
satellite... because that is the satellite model, also about money. One gets
ad revenues, the other charges the listeners. Your choice.

On Sep 16, 7:50 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
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On Sep 16, 7:43 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
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On Sep 16, 7:18 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:

And are you saying that IBiquity wants and intends to remain
unprofitable?

It's a developmental startup.

Satellite radio began development in the early 90's, and is losing about
a
billion dollars a year... yet the companies involved believe they can be
profitable in the future and give value to the shareholders.

Right. It's about the money.

Without money, there is no free radio. You can always pay $150 a year for
satellite... because that is the satellite model, also about money. One gets
ad revenues, the other charges the listeners. Your choice.



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Ohhhh....so THAT'S how it works. I thought Satellite Radio would pay
me to pay terrestrial station managers directly. Wow, that's so
interesting...

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Without money, there is no free radio. You can always pay $150 a year for
satellite... because that is the satellite model, also about money. One
gets ad revenues, the other charges the listeners. Your choice.

Tell you what, Eduardo. If I were back home, I would, at this point, go the
satellite venue in a heartbeat. At least someone in their programming
department cares about people that want to hear something besides
rap/hiphop/urban contemporary, country, Christian and rock. "free radio" has
no choices anymore. It bites. And then, you go and throw up those damn
noise generators so all we can get are local stations that are less than 10
miles from us. It's bull****. You take away our choice, and try to blow
smoke up our asses and tell us it's good for us because if you don't take
away our choices, we won't have any choices at all. There's a word that was
coined for that sort of crap on a stick:

NEWSPEAK. (formerly known as doublespeak, forked tongue, etc.)