On Sat, 15 Sep 2007 07:41:28 -0700, "David Eduardo"
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On Fri, 14 Sep 2007 18:48:32 GMT, "David Eduardo"
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Boycott HD Radio!

1520, KOKC, used to get into Hawaii at night. They were the only rock
station at night where I grew up, in suck-ass Scottsdale.

You mean KOMA in its CHR days?

No. When they were Top 40. CHR sucks.

CHR and Top 40 are the same thing. A trade magazine decided, to distinguish
its chart from others, to use CHR back in the 70s and it stuck because
nobody in the business side of the industry liked the teen image of the term
Top 40.

Wrong! CHR is very crossover averse and narrow. Top 40 was the
epitome of ecclecticism and variety.

"David" wrote in message
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On Sat, 15 Sep 2007 07:41:28 -0700, "David Eduardo"
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"David" wrote in message
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On Fri, 14 Sep 2007 18:48:32 GMT, "David Eduardo"
wrote:


Boycott HD Radio!

1520, KOKC, used to get into Hawaii at night. They were the only rock
station at night where I grew up, in suck-ass Scottsdale.

You mean KOMA in its CHR days?

No. When they were Top 40. CHR sucks.

CHR and Top 40 are the same thing. A trade magazine decided, to
distinguish
its chart from others, to use CHR back in the 70s and it stuck because
nobody in the business side of the industry liked the teen image of the
term
Top 40.

Wrong! CHR is very crossover averse and narrow. Top 40 was the
epitome of ecclecticism and variety.

CHR was the "new" name for Top 40, courtesy of Radio & Records magazine. The
same stations that reported as Top 40 to Billboard and Cashbox and Rudman
and Gavin and Hamilton simultaneously reported as CHR to R&R.

CHR today includes r&b, hip hop, dance, alternative, rock, pop, etc. It has
as much variety as the format had in 1957... maybe more.

On Sat, 15 Sep 2007 17:51:28 GMT, "David Eduardo"
wrote:



CHR today includes r&b, hip hop, dance, alternative, rock, pop, etc. It has
as much variety as the format had in 1957... maybe more.


What about jazz? Country? MOR?

"David" wrote in message
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On Sat, 15 Sep 2007 17:51:28 GMT, "David Eduardo"
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CHR today includes r&b, hip hop, dance, alternative, rock, pop, etc. It
has
as much variety as the format had in 1957... maybe more.


What about jazz? Country? MOR?

Since Top 40 was invented (August of 1952) to today, the format has
reflected mass tastes... principally 18 to about 34 year olds (the format
was "invented" by watching a 30-something waitress playing the same songs
over and over on a jukebox). Other than crossovers, there have been few
country or jazz Top 40 hits. And, while Top 40 was AOR in the early 50's
(Gogi Grant, Perry Como, etc..) it dropped the MOR tunes almost entirely by
the late 50's to early 60's... and MOR itself morphed into AC, and today
there are many, many AC and CHR crossovers.

On Sep 15, 1:51?pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
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On Sat, 15 Sep 2007 07:41:28 -0700, "David Eduardo"
wrote:

"David" wrote in message
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On Fri, 14 Sep 2007 18:48:32 GMT, "David Eduardo"
wrote:

Boycott HD Radio!

1520, KOKC, used to get into Hawaii at night. They were the only rock
station at night where I grew up, in suck-ass Scottsdale.

You mean KOMA in its CHR days?

No. When they were Top 40. CHR sucks.

CHR and Top 40 are the same thing. A trade magazine decided, to
distinguish
its chart from others, to use CHR back in the 70s and it stuck because
nobody in the business side of the industry liked the teen image of the
term
Top 40.

Wrong! CHR is very crossover averse and narrow. Top 40 was the
epitome of ecclecticism and variety.

CHR was the "new" name for Top 40, courtesy of Radio & Records magazine. The
same stations that reported as Top 40 to Billboard and Cashbox and Rudman
and Gavin and Hamilton simultaneously reported as CHR to R&R.

CHR today includes r&b, hip hop, dance, alternative, rock, pop, etc. It has
as much variety as the format had in 1957... maybe more.- Hide quoted text -

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Jesus - that crap on clearchannelmusic.com/hdradio makes me vomit - I
listen to my own "personalized" music on slacker.com. Most of the ****
on the HD channels is just vomit that stations don't want to run on
their main analog channels:

"HD Hypocrisy"

"Here's a few more reasons why only iBiquity and a few clueless radio
group heads could make a big thing out of HD radio tagging... The very
damn radio stations that broadcast in HD offer no programming worth
listening to. HD Radio is a virtual sewer of formats owners don't want
on their terrestrial frequencies and other assorted garbage that no
one sane would listen to -- let alone spend money for new radios --
tagging or not."

http://insidemusicmedia.blogspot.com...hypocrisy.html

"And the good ideas keep on coming..."

"So let me understand this... HD radio has been reduced to being a
storefront for iTunes? So I listen to my HD radio, tag the songs I
like, download them to my iPod, and listen to my iPod rather than my
HD radio, right?"

http://www.hear2.com/2007/09/and-the....html#comments

On Sep 16, 4:09 pm, IBOCcrock wrote:
On Sep 15, 1:51?pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:





"David" wrote in message

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On Sat, 15 Sep 2007 07:41:28 -0700, "David Eduardo"
wrote:

"David" wrote in message
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On Fri, 14 Sep 2007 18:48:32 GMT, "David Eduardo"
wrote:

Boycott HD Radio!

1520, KOKC, used to get into Hawaii at night. They were the only rock
station at night where I grew up, in suck-ass Scottsdale.

You mean KOMA in its CHR days?

No. When they were Top 40. CHR sucks.

CHR and Top 40 are the same thing. A trade magazine decided, to
distinguish
its chart from others, to use CHR back in the 70s and it stuck because
nobody in the business side of the industry liked the teen image of the
term
Top 40.

Wrong! CHR is very crossover averse and narrow. Top 40 was the
epitome of ecclecticism and variety.

CHR was the "new" name for Top 40, courtesy of Radio & Records magazine. The
same stations that reported as Top 40 to Billboard and Cashbox and Rudman
and Gavin and Hamilton simultaneously reported as CHR to R&R.

CHR today includes r&b, hip hop, dance, alternative, rock, pop, etc. It has
as much variety as the format had in 1957... maybe more.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Jesus - that crap on clearchannelmusic.com/hdradio makes me vomit - I
listen to my own "personalized" music on slacker.com. Most of the ****
on the HD channels is just vomit that stations don't want to run on
their main analog channels:



That's why one reviewer likened HD to "polishing a turd".

On Sep 16, 4:57?pm, Steve wrote:
On Sep 16, 4:09 pm, IBOCcrock wrote:





On Sep 15, 1:51?pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:

"David" wrote in message

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On Sat, 15 Sep 2007 07:41:28 -0700, "David Eduardo"
wrote:

"David" wrote in message
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On Fri, 14 Sep 2007 18:48:32 GMT, "David Eduardo"
wrote:

Boycott HD Radio!

1520, KOKC, used to get into Hawaii at night. They were the only rock
station at night where I grew up, in suck-ass Scottsdale.

You mean KOMA in its CHR days?

No. When they were Top 40. CHR sucks.

CHR and Top 40 are the same thing. A trade magazine decided, to
distinguish
its chart from others, to use CHR back in the 70s and it stuck because
nobody in the business side of the industry liked the teen image of the
term
Top 40.

Wrong! CHR is very crossover averse and narrow. Top 40 was the
epitome of ecclecticism and variety.

CHR was the "new" name for Top 40, courtesy of Radio & Records magazine. The
same stations that reported as Top 40 to Billboard and Cashbox and Rudman
and Gavin and Hamilton simultaneously reported as CHR to R&R.

CHR today includes r&b, hip hop, dance, alternative, rock, pop, etc. It has
as much variety as the format had in 1957... maybe more.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Jesus - that crap on clearchannelmusic.com/hdradio makes me vomit - I
listen to my own "personalized" music on slacker.com. Most of the ****
on the HD channels is just vomit that stations don't want to run on
their main analog channels:

That's why one reviewer likened HD to "polishing a turd".- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

"Is HD Radio Worth It?"

"HD radio is nothing more than polishing a turd. Any fidelity gain is
crushed by the fact that they'll still compress the **** out of
already over-compressed music to make it louder than the next station
on the dial."

http://jeremy.zawodny.com/blog/archives/007853.html

No ****! Hey look, Eduardo!

"Steve" wrote in message
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That's why one reviewer likened HD to "polishing a turd".


Sorry, you are lying.

I used that term, and I used it in reference to the entire future of AM,
with or without HD.

David Eduardo wrote:

"Steve" wrote in message
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That's why one reviewer likened HD to "polishing a turd".


Sorry, you are lying.

You'd certainly know about lying!

"IBOCcrock" wrote in message
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. The very
damn radio stations that broadcast in HD offer no programming worth
listening to. HD Radio is a virtual sewer of formats owners don't want
on their terrestrial frequencies and other assorted garbage that no
one sane would listen to -- let alone spend money for new radios --
tagging or not."

In the markets where stations provide digital versions of their main analog
signal as well as multicasting in some instances, radio reaches in excess of
95% of all persons.

You may not find anything you like, but most people do.

Going back to the Pulse and Hooper and Trendex surveys of the 50's, there
has always been a percentage of folks who do not use radio... about 5% in
the last 40 years on average, and another 6% to 7% that are very light
users. So nothing, really, has changed at all.