On Sep 19, 8:19 am, Roadie wrote:

Catching stations from afar is am enjoyable hobby for DXers that
creates no revenue for the radio station. None. There are more than
enough radio stations to service local areas

Some areas have people but not enough to warrant a local station (not
enough advertising income). The only things these people have for
radio entertainment are the distant stations.

Or, imagine yourself being in a town with maybe one or two local
audible signals (either FM or AM). And neither is a format you
like....what do you do if you want radio? Gotta DX.

Stephanie Weil
New York City, USA

On Sep 19, 7:17 am, Stephanie Weil wrote:
On Sep 19, 8:19 am, Roadie wrote:

Catching stations from afar is am enjoyable hobby for DXers that
creates no revenue for the radio station. None. There are more than
enough radio stations to service local areas

Some areas have people but not enough to warrant a local station (not
enough advertising income). The only things these people have for
radio entertainment are the distant stations.

Or, imagine yourself being in a town with maybe one or two local
audible signals (either FM or AM). And neither is a format you
like....what do you do if you want radio? Gotta DX.

Stephanie Weil
New York City, USA


I Am There : Twain Harte, CA

1 - AM Radio Station down the Hill in Sonora, CA
* Most of the Time I can not here it at Night.

2 - FM Radios Stations down the Hill in Sonora, CA

I Ask Myself : What IBOC ?
All I See Is The Blinking Blue Light ! ~ RHF
In the Distant Land Where IBOC Fears To Go :
Life Exists and Radio Listeners Live Beyond the 10mv/m Contour.

On Sep 19, 10:17 am, Stephanie Weil wrote:
On Sep 19, 8:19 am, Roadie wrote:

Catching stations from afar is am enjoyable hobby for DXers that
creates no revenue for the radio station. None. There are more than
enough radio stations to service local areas

Some areas have people but not enough to warrant a local station (not
enough advertising income). The only things these people have for
radio entertainment are the distant stations.

Don't forget that radio stations are first businesses. Their target
audience has to be listeners who advertisers feel will be in a
position to respond favorably to their message. Listeners will not
likely drive 500 miles to purchase a car, refrigerator, insurance,
etc. Those few people who live outside the primary listening area are
of no interest to a commercial radio station. It's just tough if the
radio station does something like add HD channels that disrupts the
listening of someone outside the target area. Those are the hard cold
facts of radio stations that hope to make a profit.


Or, imagine yourself being in a town with maybe one or two local
audible signals (either FM or AM). And neither is a format you
like....what do you do if you want radio? Gotta DX.

True you you may have to dx if you live in the boondocks, or buy a
satellite radio setup. But that faraway radio station will for
obvious business reasons have no concern about your listening habits
because you are not a listener who would be of any interest to their
advertisers.

If radio stations were public entities with no profit motive then I
could understand your concerns. But the basic radio model in this
country is built around it being a profit making enterprise.

In NYC you should have no shortage of local radio stations.


Stephanie Weil
New York City, USA

"Stephanie Weil" wrote in message
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On Sep 19, 8:19 am, Roadie wrote:

Catching stations from afar is am enjoyable hobby for DXers that
creates no revenue for the radio station. None. There are more than
enough radio stations to service local areas

Some areas have people but not enough to warrant a local station (not
enough advertising income). The only things these people have for
radio entertainment are the distant stations.

Or, imagine yourself being in a town with maybe one or two local
audible signals (either FM or AM). And neither is a format you
like....what do you do if you want radio? Gotta DX.

About the only formats that attract any AM audience among adults are the
variants of news & talk. This is a format that commands less than 10% of
total listening in most markets. Add to that the fact that night listening
to radio is about a quarter of the 6 AM to 7 PM levels.... and you have very
few listeners who would find anything of interest on distant AM stations.

How many times before have you bought something that you heard
advertized on radio, or heard and saw advertized on tv? Things that you
have bought before, mostly sitting on the shelves in the stores is the
advertizing that I check outExubera commercial on tv right now.I wouldnt
touch that S..t with a million mile long pole.Most commercials on radio
and tv, I shut that crap off! I never buy any of that new fangled non
sense stuff they advertize.You got people out there, every two or hree
years, they rush out and buy the latest Dell or HP of eMachines or
Gateway or Asus or whatever computer gadgets, they don't know a damn
thing.
cuhulin

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How many times before have you bought something that you heard
advertized on radio, or heard and saw advertized on tv? Things that you
have bought before, mostly sitting on the shelves in the stores is the
advertizing that I check outExubera commercial on tv right now.I wouldnt
touch that S..t with a million mile long pole.Most commercials on radio
and tv, I shut that crap off! I never buy any of that new fangled non
sense stuff they advertize.You got people out there, every two or hree
years, they rush out and buy the latest Dell or HP of eMachines or
Gateway or Asus or whatever computer gadgets, they don't know a damn
thing.
cuhulin


Isn't that the truth about that with the commercials. I hardly ever buy
anything I hear advertised on the radio. Frankly, I think most of it is a
bunch of garbage. I generally buy what I need and things I want here and
there. As far as the computer thing, I would suspect it is almost like
radios having to have the best and newest. After a while, you finally run
out of either money or things to buy having too much stuff.

On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 05:27:24 -0400, "Billy Smith"
wrote:


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How many times before have you bought something that you heard
advertized on radio, or heard and saw advertized on tv? Things that you
have bought before, mostly sitting on the shelves in the stores is the
advertizing that I check outExubera commercial on tv right now.I wouldnt
touch that S..t with a million mile long pole.Most commercials on radio
and tv, I shut that crap off! I never buy any of that new fangled non
sense stuff they advertize.You got people out there, every two or hree
years, they rush out and buy the latest Dell or HP of eMachines or
Gateway or Asus or whatever computer gadgets, they don't know a damn
thing.
cuhulin


Isn't that the truth about that with the commercials. I hardly ever buy
anything I hear advertised on the radio. Frankly, I think most of it is a
bunch of garbage. I generally buy what I need and things I want here and
there. As far as the computer thing, I would suspect it is almost like
radios having to have the best and newest. After a while, you finally run
out of either money or things to buy having too much stuff.



"Hardly ever buy"?

If you EVER do, you've fulfilled an advertiser's aim...

If you advertize it on radio or tv,,,, I am NOT going to buy it.
cuhulin

On Sep 19, 12:19 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
..... and you have very
few listeners who would find anything of interest on distant AM stations.

Almost as few as those who find anything of interest in your posts.

"Steve" wrote in message
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On Sep 19, 12:19 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
.... and you have very
few listeners who would find anything of interest on distant AM stations.

Almost as few as those who find anything of interest in your posts.


You can be assured that this poster isn't going into any sort of HD radio
purchase until the cost of the receivers gets way below what they are at
this point. 200 dollars for a radio that only receives broadcast band crap?
Some cases more than 200 dollars. But really, after a while how much do you
want to spend Frankly when I can go out and buy a AM/FM radio for little
shock to my wallet versus 200-400 USD for a HD set, why in the hell would I
want to do that. For that cost, you could pick up a decent shortwave
portable or even possibly a relatively inexpensive DRM radio for SW. Not
that I think that DRM is going to be a boon either but seriously what is
there really on most commercial radio except hours of Rush Limbaugh and
other assorted talk show hosts. Other than listening to WBBM or some
powerhouse station like that for the news, there is little available on
local radio. FM has basically been turned into a vast wasteland of morning
talk shows, commercials, and other nonsense. Play the same song half the day
from the latest artist and here you can listen to two different stations on
FM playing the same format and same exact song at the same time. So much for
broadcasting diversity.