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Old September 23rd 07, 11:42 PM posted to rec.radio.shortwave
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Default FM HD in its current form will likely survive it's unlikely AM HD will fail.

On Sep 23, 6:34 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
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Not by either iBiquity or receiver manufacturers. Those who were
discussing
this possibility were speculating, and we could have had better data by
calling Miss Cleo.


Explicity and frequently by iBiquity.


Again, at a 2005 meeting of all or PDs and GMs, I asked, "when is a low
power chip going to be available to allow portables and luggables?"

The CEO of iBiquity said, "non is available, in development or being
planned." He then went on to describe the power consumption of DACs and how
he hoped the offshoot of devices like the iPod would eventually create more
efficient chips and that the technology could be applied to HD.


That's weird. I wonder why he'd yank your chain that way? He was
probably just joking around.


I can find no reference to this. In 2004, the only chipsets were
literally
prototypes for very limited production sepcialt radios.


Look harder.


Nothing was said in '04 about portable devices except "we hope they can
figure this one out."



This is incorrect. A great deal was said and the expectation was that
they'd be available very soon.




Actually, not according to the CEO of Samsung, who predicts that their
chipsets will be among the most expensive.


In correct. The new chipsets will be considerably less expensive than the
existing ones. See press releases on iBiquity website.


Not according to Samsung. They predict that the chipsets will be very
expensive indeed.


No, they don't.


Actually, they do.


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On Sep 23, 6:34 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:

The CEO of iBiquity said, "non is available, in development or being
planned." He then went on to describe the power consumption of DACs and
how
he hoped the offshoot of devices like the iPod would eventually create
more
efficient chips and that the technology could be applied to HD.


That's weird. I wonder why he'd yank your chain that way? He was
probably just joking around.


iBiquity never made claims about portables. The first mention has been in
the Samsung press releases about low cost low power chips.

Nothing was said in '04 about portable devices except "we hope they can
figure this one out."



This is incorrect. A great deal was said and the expectation was that
they'd be available very soon.


Then you will have no trouble producing a link or two.

Not according to Samsung. They predict that the chipsets will be very
expensive indeed.


No, they don't.


Actually, they do.


Like nearly all your recent posts, you show that you don't understand the
radio business model and are lying about the technical issues of HD.

For example:
Samsung developing new chipset for HD Radio
Thursday, May 10, 2007 at 9:49 AM

Samsung said they will introduce a new low-power, low-cost chipset for HD
Radio receivers. These new chipsets will be an important step in the
development of portable HD Radios.


Samsung figures that samples of the chipset will be available before the end
of the 2007 - and production anticipated for the first quarter of 2008.

The low-power, high-performance chip will be capable of supporting all
current and planned HD Radio technology features. It is being designed and
manufactured using advanced technology and features a System-in-Package
(SIP) module and a CMOS, mixed-signal single-chip tuner.

Target HD Radio applications include: mobile phones, portable media players,
portable navigation devices, table radios and home audio-video components.

If HD Radio is able to integrate into mobile phones and portable media
players before satellite radio does, then we have no one to blame but
ourselves.




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On Sep 23, 7:01 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Steve" wrote in message

ups.com...

On Sep 23, 6:34 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:


The CEO of iBiquity said, "non is available, in development or being
planned." He then went on to describe the power consumption of DACs and
how
he hoped the offshoot of devices like the iPod would eventually create
more
efficient chips and that the technology could be applied to HD.


That's weird. I wonder why he'd yank your chain that way? He was
probably just joking around.


iBiquity never made claims about portables. The first mention has been in
the Samsung press releases about low cost low power chips.


iBiquity was constantly making claims about portables and about how
they would be widely available at any time.



Nothing was said in '04 about portable devices except "we hope they can
figure this one out."


This is incorrect. A great deal was said and the expectation was that
they'd be available very soon.


Then you will have no trouble producing a link or two.


Then you'd have no trouble doing your own homework, no?


Not according to Samsung. They predict that the chipsets will be very
expensive indeed.


No, they don't.


Actually, they do.


Like nearly all your recent posts, you show that you don't understand the
radio business model and are lying about the technical issues of HD.


Are you talking about the radio business or the colloidal silver
business? You switch back and forth all the time and it gets very
confusing.


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"Steve" wrote in message
ups.com...
On Sep 23, 7:01 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:

iBiquity never made claims about portables. The first mention has been
in
the Samsung press releases about low cost low power chips.


iBiquity was constantly making claims about portables and about how
they would be widely available at any time.


No, they never did nay shuch ting; there was no chip announced until
mid-2007 that could hope to run on battery power.


Then you will have no trouble producing a link or two.


Then you'd have no trouble doing your own homework, no?


As I though, there are no links.


Like nearly all your recent posts, you show that you don't understand the
radio business model and are lying about the technical issues of HD.


Are you talking about the radio business or the colloidal silver
business? You switch back and forth all the time and it gets very
confusing.


You are obfuscating with this dumb little joke... the fact is that neither
you nor anyone else can prove that the Samsung chips are "more" expensive
and you can not prove that iBiquity offered hope for a portable device prior
to this year.


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On Sep 23, 8:43 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Steve" wrote in message

ups.com...

On Sep 23, 7:01 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:


iBiquity never made claims about portables. The first mention has been
in
the Samsung press releases about low cost low power chips.


iBiquity was constantly making claims about portables and about how
they would be widely available at any time.


No, they never did nay shuch ting; there was no chip announced until
mid-2007 that could hope to run on battery power.


They did say it. Repeatedly. And emphatically.




Then you will have no trouble producing a link or two.


Then you'd have no trouble doing your own homework, no?


As I though, there are no links.



Like nearly all your recent posts, you show that you don't understand the
radio business model and are lying about the technical issues of HD.


Are you talking about the radio business or the colloidal silver
business? You switch back and forth all the time and it gets very
confusing.


You are obfuscating with this dumb little joke... the fact is that neither
you nor anyone else can prove that the Samsung chips are "more" expensive
and you can not prove that iBiquity offered hope for a portable device prior
to this year.


I didn't realize that "proof" is required. Isn't Samsung's word good
enough?



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On Sep 23, 8:43 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Steve" wrote in message

ups.com...

On Sep 23, 7:01 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:


iBiquity never made claims about portables. The first mention has been
in
the Samsung press releases about low cost low power chips.


iBiquity was constantly making claims about portables and about how
they would be widely available at any time.


No, they never did nay shuch ting; there was no chip announced until
mid-2007 that could hope to run on battery power.



Then you will have no trouble producing a link or two.


Then you'd have no trouble doing your own homework, no?


As I though, there are no links.


If you "thought" at all, you wouldn't be carrying on with this
foolishness.


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