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I know that from here in Indiana it was very common in the past to receive
the Chinese People's Broadcasting Stations from as far as Lhasa, Kunming,
and other locations at this QTH.


Funny, but I never saw such MW receptions reported in DX News or the IRCA
Monitor... that would be most amazing reception in the last 3 decades or so.
Even in the peak years of good reception to the Pacific in the early 60's, I
never heard of a Chinese station making it East of the Rockies.

When did this occur and what stations were heard?


Do ya think he might just be referring to SW transmissions, oh faux one?

dxAce
Michigan
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David Eduardo wrote:

"Billy Smith" wrote in message
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I know that from here in Indiana it was very common in the past to
receive
the Chinese People's Broadcasting Stations from as far as Lhasa,
Kunming,
and other locations at this QTH.


Funny, but I never saw such MW receptions reported in DX News or the IRCA
Monitor... that would be most amazing reception in the last 3 decades or
so.
Even in the peak years of good reception to the Pacific in the early
60's, I
never heard of a Chinese station making it East of the Rockies.

When did this occur and what stations were heard?


Do ya think he might just be referring to SW transmissions, oh faux one?

dxAce
Michigan
USA


I was referring to the SW transmission in regard to the stations in Llasa,
Kunming, etc.
I did notice however that John Plimmer from South Africa does an excellent
job with his DX operating from South Africa.
Quite amazing what he picks up although he does live in the 9 khz channel
seperation area versus our 10 Khz area here in the states.
However, I do note that he had quite a nunber of catches of US stations even
on the Western edge of South Africa.
Plus the fact they have much less in the way of co channel interference and
IBOC crap going on.


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"dxAce" wrote in message
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David Eduardo wrote:

"Billy Smith" wrote in message
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I know that from here in Indiana it was very common in the past to
receive
the Chinese People's Broadcasting Stations from as far as Lhasa,
Kunming,
and other locations at this QTH.

Funny, but I never saw such MW receptions reported in DX News or the
IRCA
Monitor... that would be most amazing reception in the last 3 decades or
so.
Even in the peak years of good reception to the Pacific in the early
60's, I
never heard of a Chinese station making it East of the Rockies.

When did this occur and what stations were heard?


Do ya think he might just be referring to SW transmissions, oh faux one?

dxAce
Michigan
USA


I was referring to the SW transmission in regard to the stations in Llasa,
Kunming, etc.


And this has exactly what to do with a reception on the low end of the MW
band?

I did notice however that John Plimmer from South Africa does an excellent
job with his DX operating from South Africa.
Quite amazing what he picks up although he does live in the 9 khz channel
seperation area versus our 10 Khz area here in the states.
However, I do note that he had quite a nunber of catches of US stations
even on the Western edge of South Africa.
Plus the fact they have much less in the way of co channel interference
and IBOC crap going on.


The fact is that South Africa has pretty much eliminated the MW band with
just a couple of exceptions. SABC has all of 3 AMs left, there are a half
dozen community AMs and 3 commercial AMs listed in WRTVH 2007. Otherwise the
band is virtually empty for about 1000 km, with 10 AMs in Botswana and a few
in other closer nations, most at a near perfect 90 degree angle to the
Americas.


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"dxAce" wrote in message
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David Eduardo wrote:

"Billy Smith" wrote in message
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I know that from here in Indiana it was very common in the past to
receive
the Chinese People's Broadcasting Stations from as far as Lhasa,
Kunming,
and other locations at this QTH.


Funny, but I never saw such MW receptions reported in DX News or the IRCA
Monitor... that would be most amazing reception in the last 3 decades or
so.
Even in the peak years of good reception to the Pacific in the early
60's, I
never heard of a Chinese station making it East of the Rockies.

When did this occur and what stations were heard?


Do ya think he might just be referring to SW transmissions, oh faux one?


If so, that would be odd for two reasons...

1. The thread is about MW.
2. He is using a beverage antenna, not usually associated with SW
receptions.


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"dxAce" wrote in message
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David Eduardo wrote:

"Billy Smith" wrote in message
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I know that from here in Indiana it was very common in the past to
receive
the Chinese People's Broadcasting Stations from as far as Lhasa,
Kunming,
and other locations at this QTH.

Funny, but I never saw such MW receptions reported in DX News or the
IRCA
Monitor... that would be most amazing reception in the last 3 decades or
so.
Even in the peak years of good reception to the Pacific in the early
60's, I
never heard of a Chinese station making it East of the Rockies.

When did this occur and what stations were heard?


Do ya think he might just be referring to SW transmissions, oh faux one?


If so, that would be odd for two reasons...

1. The thread is about MW.
2. He is using a beverage antenna, not usually associated with SW
receptions.


Well you can use a Beverage antenna for SW as well. I might have to put one
across the way here in a few days when I get some more material.




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Well you can use a Beverage antenna for SW as well. I might have to put
one across the way here in a few days when I get some more material.

The idea of a Beverage is to have a multiple wavelength antenna. Multiple
wavelengths on SW frequencies are much shorter, and many longwires are, in
essence, possesing those properties already.


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Well you can use a Beverage antenna for SW as well. I might have to put
one across the way here in a few days when I get some more material.

The idea of a Beverage is to have a multiple wavelength antenna. Multiple
wavelengths on SW frequencies are much shorter, and many longwires are, in
essence, possesing those properties already.


No that would not be correct. A Beverage is a special case antenna
different from long wire antenna.

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Telamon
Ventura, California
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On Sep 24, 9:33 pm, Telamon
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"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Billy Smith" wrote in message
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Well you can use a Beverage antenna for SW as well. I might have to put
one across the way here in a few days when I get some more material.

The idea of a Beverage is to have a multiple wavelength antenna. Multiple
wavelengths on SW frequencies are much shorter, and many longwires are, in
essence, possesing those properties already.



- No that would not be correct.
- A Beverage is a special case antenna
- different from long wire antenna.
-
- --
- Telamon
- Ventura, California

Telamon - How So ? ~ RHF

The Beverage Antenna*
* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beverage_antenna

"The Beverage Antenna is a relatively inexpensive
but very effective Long Wire Receiving Antenna
used by Amateur Radio, Shortwave Listening (SWL),
and Longwave Radio DXers and Military Applications."
* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beverage_antenna
"A Beverage Antenna consists of a Wire one or two
Wavelengths Long (Hundreds of Feet at HF to several
Kilometres for Llongwave)."
* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beverage_antenna
"A Resistor connected to a Ground Rod Terminates
the end of the Beverage Antenna 'pointed' to the
Target Area, a 470 Ohm Non-Inductive Resistor provides
excellent results for most Soils {Locations}."
* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beverage_antenna
"A 50 or 75 Ohm Coaxial Cable Transmission Line
connects the Receiver to the opposite-end of the
Beverage Antenna through an Impedance-Matching
Transformer."
* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beverage_antenna

READ more "Technical Description"
* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beverag...al_Description
- Harold Beverage discovered . . .

Three Characteristics of a Beverage Antenna :
* One or More Wavelengths Long
* Near the Ground Surface {within Several Feet}
* Terminated

Three Characteristics of a Longwire Antenna :
* One or More Wavelengths Long
* High Above the Ground Surface {1/4 WL or More}
* Not Terminated
ERGO a Non-Terminated Beverage Antenna
that is Rigged relatively High-Off the Ground

Read - Antenna Height Considerations
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antenna...considerations

Longwave - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longwave

Medium Wave - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mediumwave
Medium Frequency - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medium_frequency

Shortwave - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shortwave
-aka- "HF" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_frequency

byob ~ RHF
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On Sep 24, 9:33 pm, Telamon
wrote:
In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Billy Smith" wrote in message
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Well you can use a Beverage antenna for SW as well. I might have to
put
one across the way here in a few days when I get some more material.
The idea of a Beverage is to have a multiple wavelength antenna.
Multiple
wavelengths on SW frequencies are much shorter, and many longwires are,
in
essence, possesing those properties already.



- No that would not be correct.
- A Beverage is a special case antenna
- different from long wire antenna.
-
- --
- Telamon
- Ventura, California

A Beverage is a specific kind of long wire, generally wavelength or
multiples, which can operate well low off the ground (MW Beverages are often
on sticks in the ground) and is grounded at one end and end, not center,
fed. Like other antennas, they can be used in multiples to create
directional patters and "moving" directionality by means of a phasor.


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David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
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David Eduardo wrote:

"Billy Smith" wrote in message
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I know that from here in Indiana it was very common in the past to
receive
the Chinese People's Broadcasting Stations from as far as Lhasa,
Kunming,
and other locations at this QTH.

Funny, but I never saw such MW receptions reported in DX News or the IRCA
Monitor... that would be most amazing reception in the last 3 decades or
so.
Even in the peak years of good reception to the Pacific in the early
60's, I
never heard of a Chinese station making it East of the Rockies.

When did this occur and what stations were heard?


Do ya think he might just be referring to SW transmissions, oh faux one?


If so, that would be odd for two reasons...

1. The thread is about MW.
2. He is using a beverage antenna, not usually associated with SW
receptions.


Odd? That would be you, oh phoney one.




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