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Default YES Virginia, 24 kbit/s can sound good (with HE-AAC codec)

HE-ACC + SBR is the codec used in Hybrid Digital Radio, Digital Radio
Mondiale, and DAB+. It provides FM quality sound at only 24 kbit/s.
Check if out for yourself:

Soft Hits- shoutcast.com/sbin/shoutcast-playlist.pls?rn=82235
Classical- shoutcast.com/sbin/shoutcast-playlist.pls?rn=160544
Big Band- shoutcast.com/sbin/shoutcast-playlist.pls?rn=872756
americana- shoutcast.com/sbin/shoutcast-playlist.pls?rn=199309
UK Jazz- shoutcast.com/sbin/shoutcast-playlist.pls?rn=3151
Guitar- shoutcast.com/sbin/shoutcast-playlist.pls?rn=612
Classic Rock- shoutcast.com/sbin/shoutcast-playlist.pls?rn=61670
70s- shoutcast.com/sbin/shoutcast-playlist.pls?rn=8866
80s- shoutcast.com/sbin/shoutcast-playlist.pls?rn=3883
Oldies- shoutcast.com/sbin/shoutcast-playlist.pls?rn=2085
Arab- shoutcast.com/sbin/shoutcast-playlist.pls?rn=853
Top 40- shoutcast.com/sbin/shoutcast-playlist.pls?rn=985275
Top 40- shoutcast.com/sbin/shoutcast-playlist.pls?rn=233037
UK Top 40- shoutcast.com/sbin/shoutcast-playlist.pls?rn=8849
Ambient- shoutcast.com/sbin/shoutcast-playlist.pls?rn=8908
Techno- shoutcast.com/sbin/shoutcast-playlist.pls?rn=4814
EU trance-shoutcast.com/sbin/shoutcast-playlist.pls?rn=1605
Trance- shoutcast.com/sbin/shoutcast-playlist.pls?rn=3848

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RHF wrote:

SFTV - DOH ! - Internet Radio - Ain't Radio
* It's Wire-to-Wire -aka- Telegraph / Telephone


It makes no difference to the computer inside the radio whether the 24
kbit/s data arrived by wire, wireless, a floppy disc, or CD. Data is
data. It will all sound the same.

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On Sep 30, 5:42 pm, "Soundhaspriority" wrote:

So what's in it for him? Is he a professional shill, or is he just trolling?



(Why must people always assume there's a conspiracy involved?) - I'm
just a guy sitting in front of my computer, and watching TCM on the
tv.

Killing time basically until Monday rolls around.


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RHF wrote:

SFTV - DOH ! - Internet Radio - Ain't Radio
* It's Wire-to-Wire -aka- Telegraph / Telephone


It makes no difference to the computer inside the radio whether the 24
kbit/s data arrived by wire, wireless, a floppy disc, or CD. Data is
data. It will all sound the same.


Yes, but radio is wireless.


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Dearest SFTV_troy:

Stop the crossposting crap. We in ba.broadcast aren't interested in
responding to crossposts to non-related newsgroups.




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On Sep 30, 6:23 pm, "Karl Uppiano" wrote:
"SFTV_troy" wrote in message

oups.com...



RHF wrote:


SFTV - DOH ! - Internet Radio - Ain't Radio
* It's Wire-to-Wire -aka- Telegraph / Telephone


It makes no difference to the computer inside the radio whether the 24
kbit/s data arrived by wire, wireless, a floppy disc, or CD. Data is
data. It will all sound the same.


Yes, but radio is wireless.




And why would the computer that's receiving the AAC stream care about
that?

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In article . com,
SFTV_troy wrote:

HE-ACC + SBR is the codec used in Hybrid Digital Radio, Digital Radio
Mondiale, and DAB+. It provides FM quality sound at only 24 kbit/s.
Check if out for yourself:

Soft Hits- shoutcast.com/sbin/shoutcast-playlist.pls?rn=82235
Classical- shoutcast.com/sbin/shoutcast-playlist.pls?rn=160544
Big Band- shoutcast.com/sbin/shoutcast-playlist.pls?rn=872756
americana- shoutcast.com/sbin/shoutcast-playlist.pls?rn=199309
UK Jazz- shoutcast.com/sbin/shoutcast-playlist.pls?rn=3151
Guitar- shoutcast.com/sbin/shoutcast-playlist.pls?rn=612
Classic Rock- shoutcast.com/sbin/shoutcast-playlist.pls?rn=61670
70s- shoutcast.com/sbin/shoutcast-playlist.pls?rn=8866
80s- shoutcast.com/sbin/shoutcast-playlist.pls?rn=3883
Oldies- shoutcast.com/sbin/shoutcast-playlist.pls?rn=2085
Arab- shoutcast.com/sbin/shoutcast-playlist.pls?rn=853
Top 40- shoutcast.com/sbin/shoutcast-playlist.pls?rn=985275
Top 40- shoutcast.com/sbin/shoutcast-playlist.pls?rn=233037
UK Top 40- shoutcast.com/sbin/shoutcast-playlist.pls?rn=8849
Ambient- shoutcast.com/sbin/shoutcast-playlist.pls?rn=8908
Techno- shoutcast.com/sbin/shoutcast-playlist.pls?rn=4814
EU trance-shoutcast.com/sbin/shoutcast-playlist.pls?rn=1605
Trance- shoutcast.com/sbin/shoutcast-playlist.pls?rn=3848


Been there, done that Mr. Tin ear.

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Telamon
Ventura, California
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"SFTV_troy" wrote in message
ups.com...
HE-ACC + SBR is the codec used in Hybrid Digital Radio, Digital Radio
Mondiale, and DAB+. It provides FM quality sound at only 24 kbit/s.
Check if out for yourself:

Soft Hits- shoutcast.com/sbin/shoutcast-playlist.pls?rn=82235
Classical- shoutcast.com/sbin/shoutcast-playlist.pls?rn=160544
Big Band- shoutcast.com/sbin/shoutcast-playlist.pls?rn=872756
americana- shoutcast.com/sbin/shoutcast-playlist.pls?rn=199309
UK Jazz- shoutcast.com/sbin/shoutcast-playlist.pls?rn=3151
Guitar- shoutcast.com/sbin/shoutcast-playlist.pls?rn=612
Classic Rock- shoutcast.com/sbin/shoutcast-playlist.pls?rn=61670
70s- shoutcast.com/sbin/shoutcast-playlist.pls?rn=8866
80s- shoutcast.com/sbin/shoutcast-playlist.pls?rn=3883
Oldies- shoutcast.com/sbin/shoutcast-playlist.pls?rn=2085
Arab- shoutcast.com/sbin/shoutcast-playlist.pls?rn=853
Top 40- shoutcast.com/sbin/shoutcast-playlist.pls?rn=985275
Top 40- shoutcast.com/sbin/shoutcast-playlist.pls?rn=233037
UK Top 40- shoutcast.com/sbin/shoutcast-playlist.pls?rn=8849
Ambient- shoutcast.com/sbin/shoutcast-playlist.pls?rn=8908
Techno- shoutcast.com/sbin/shoutcast-playlist.pls?rn=4814
EU trance-shoutcast.com/sbin/shoutcast-playlist.pls?rn=1605
Trance- shoutcast.com/sbin/shoutcast-playlist.pls?rn=3848


The frequency response sounds like that of FM, but it has that swishy sound of compressed
audio.

--
Regards from Virginia Beach,

Earl Kiosterud
www.smokeylake.com


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On Sep 30, 5:11 pm, SFTV_troy wrote:
HE-ACC + SBR is the codec used in Hybrid Digital Radio, Digital Radio
Mondiale, and DAB+.


1) The ACC is an athletic conference within the NCAA. You mean AAC.

2) There is no such thing as "Hybrid Digital" radio. "HD Radio" is a
trademark of iBiquity Digital Corp for their IBOC implementation, and
the "HD" doesn't mean anything in particular. IBOC has three modes of
operation: hybrid, extended hybrid, and all digital. All three are
part of "HD Radio."

3) "HD Radio" uses a codec known as HDC (a.k.a. "HD Codec"). While
iBiquity has acknowledged that it uses SBR, they have pointedly
declined to discuss whether or not it has any other similarity to HE-
AAC. I doubt that you could cite an authoritative source, but if you
could I would love to know about it.

- Jonathan

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Telamon wrote:

Been there, done that Mr. Tin ear.


Actually I just had my ears tested, and I still have high frequency
response up to 18,000 hertz. I doubt a man of your advance age
(somewhere around 55?), can say the same.

If you bothered to TRY those stations, instead of being a close-minded
old grandpa, you'd probably be surprised how good they sound.

Oh well.

Be a hard-headed, calcified old fart, who is so set in his ways, he's
like a marble statue.

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