On Nov 21, 2:07�pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"IBOCcrock" wrote in message

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On Nov 21, 2:00 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"D Peter Maus" wrote in
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� �About 90% of the population still listens to the radio. �Even those
with access to, and regular use of, other technologies.

Actually, it is over 95%. Roughly the same as it was in 1965.

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Ah, you called Miss Cleo. Ask what Google stock will be at, will you?

In the mid-60's, pundits said FM would never make it and radio would die due
to TV. Those predictions are as accurate as yours. The satellite numbers are
totally bogus, as sat radio has hit a brick wall on new subscriptions and
the churn rate is huge after the free trial offers expire.

Poor argument - the 1960's didn't have cell phone/streaming, Satellite
Radio, the Internet, Internet Radio, etc...no nearly the same
situation Bud!

On Nov 21, 2:29�pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"IBOCcrock" wrote in message

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On Nov 21, 2:01 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"IBOCcrock" wrote in message

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That doesn't matter - TSL is down significantly and the old Clear
Channel is failing and trying to go private - the whole radio industry
is in serious trouble.

Companies go private when the market undervalues them. In the case of
Clear,
it has strong cash flow, but has suffered from the market's "Viacom
Effect"
and is underpriced. Going private allows people with money to take
advantage
of the strong profitability of the company and an amazing set of assets..

Going private, along with mergers, is a retreat strategy - CC stock
used to be $90, it is no 1/3 of that. It's over...

Mergers are what companies do to grow with no loans. Mergers = growth.

In the case of Sirius and XM, merger is being used to survive, and then to
grow.

Clear stock never hit $90, the sale price is $39 and the value of the Live
Nation share distribution is $5 a share. In other words, Clear is down no
more than the NASDAQ composite over the same period of time. Yahoo, for
example, is off 75% in the same period... making Clear look like an absolute
winner in non NYSE / non industrial issues.- Hide quoted text -

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"Clear Channel agrees to $18.7B buyout"

"Since January of 2000, Clear Channel stock has fallen from a high of
more than $90."

http://www.comxmusic.net/news/11-17-2006.html

Ho hummm.. another lie!

IBOCcrock wrote:

On Nov 21, 2:29�pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"IBOCcrock" wrote in message

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On Nov 21, 2:01 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"IBOCcrock" wrote in message

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That doesn't matter - TSL is down significantly and the old Clear
Channel is failing and trying to go private - the whole radio industry
is in serious trouble.

Companies go private when the market undervalues them. In the case of
Clear,
it has strong cash flow, but has suffered from the market's "Viacom
Effect"
and is underpriced. Going private allows people with money to take
advantage
of the strong profitability of the company and an amazing set of assets.

Going private, along with mergers, is a retreat strategy - CC stock
used to be $90, it is no 1/3 of that. It's over...

Mergers are what companies do to grow with no loans. Mergers = growth.

In the case of Sirius and XM, merger is being used to survive, and then to
grow.

Clear stock never hit $90, the sale price is $39 and the value of the Live
Nation share distribution is $5 a share. In other words, Clear is down no
more than the NASDAQ composite over the same period of time. Yahoo, for
example, is off 75% in the same period... making Clear look like an absolute
winner in non NYSE / non industrial issues.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

"Clear Channel agrees to $18.7B buyout"

"Since January of 2000, Clear Channel stock has fallen from a high of
more than $90."

http://www.comxmusic.net/news/11-17-2006.html

Ho hummm.. another lie!

Well, he has a pile of them after over 50 years of being in the lying business!

Edweenie makes Michael Bryant look like a novice.

On Nov 21, 3:38�pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"dxAce" wrote in message

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David Eduardo wrote:

Sure did. 100% of the shares of Radio Musical, Cia. Ltda, licencee by
1970
of 18 or so stations and CPs for additional stations.

Hogwash!

I have given you two dozen names of employees and the reference to the AER
and the US Consulate's Commercial Attach� any of which can verify this. At
this point, you have proven nothing, while I have given many, many
refernces... including DXers who received veries from me and knew, via
visits of several (Larry Godwin, John Hoogerheide), that I owned the
stations and ran them myself-

"Sirius Canada and Lexus expand partnership"

http://www.orbitcast.com/archives/si...tnership..html

Again, no one wants HD Radio!

"dxAce" wrote in message
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David Frackelton Gleason, prancing yet again as 'Eduardo', wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
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David Eduardo wrote:

Sure did. 100% of the shares of Radio Musical, Cia. Ltda, licencee by
1970
of 18 or so stations and CPs for additional stations.

Hogwash!

I have given you two dozen names of employees and the reference to the
AER
and the US Consulate's Commercial Attaché, any of which can verify this.
At
this point, you have proven nothing, while I have given many, many
refernces... including DXers who received veries from me and knew, via
visits of several (Larry Godwin, John Hoogerheide), that I owned the
stations and ran them myself-

You may have signed veries... heck, I know of DX'ers who've travelled to
SA and
signed veries.

I signed them as General Manager, and I set up DX tests and answered reports
on my "split frequency" station over a perido of many years. HCFV1 got
hundreds of reports over the years, as nobody else was on 805 anywhere.

One thing is certain, you never signed them as 'Eduardo' as you didn't
develop
that shtick until circa 2000.

I never used my second name until it appeared to be a good way to separate
newsgroup posts from the rest of my life; that started when I was on the
Well and CIS in the mid-80's.

And, those folks might have visited a station, but that proves NOTHING
since you
were faking it!

Hardly. They say my name on the door that said "gerente propietario" In
fact, I am pretty sure Bruce Reese at Bonneville knows that the former head
of that group, Arch Madsden, visited my stations during the 1968 Assembly of
the AIR in Quito, which I helped organize. Only owners could be members of
the AIR and the AER at the time.

"IBOCcrock" wrote in message
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On Nov 21, 2:07?pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:

In the mid-60's, pundits said FM would never make it and radio would die
due
to TV. Those predictions are as accurate as yours. The satellite numbers
are
totally bogus, as sat radio has hit a brick wall on new subscriptions and
the churn rate is huge after the free trial offers expire.

Poor argument - the 1960's didn't have cell phone/streaming, Satellite
Radio, the Internet, Internet Radio, etc...no nearly the same
situation Bud!

The advent of TV did not change things at all...and TV was alone in offering
a single alternative. Today, none of the alternatives reaches as many people
as radio does. None.

"IBOCcrock" wrote in message
news:642bc7a0-e911-43bd-a85f-
Clear stock never hit $90, the sale price is $39 and the value of the Live
Nation share distribution is $5 a share. In other words, Clear is down no
more than the NASDAQ composite over the same period of time. Yahoo, for
example, is off 75% in the same period... making Clear look like an
absolute
winner in non NYSE / non industrial issues.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

"Clear Channel agrees to $18.7B buyout"

"Since January of 2000, Clear Channel stock has fallen from a high of
more than $90."

http://www.comxmusic.net/news/11-17-2006.html

Ho hummm.. another lie!

Del Colliano has never run a radio station: he programmed a very bad one
Checking Morningstar, the high of CCU never reached 90. I believe
Morningstar more than del Colliano, any day.

In the same period, Yahoo fell nearly 80% vs. today.... the whole NASDAQ is
still way below the peak. You can not judge a single stock if it simply
mirrored the market.

"D Peter Maus" wrote in message
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About 90% of the population still listens to the radio. Even those
with access to, and regular use of, other technologies.

Much of what you say is true. But Radio is not going away anytime soon.

Perhaps, but I don't think enough of those care about what's there to be
forced into buying a bunch of digital radios to replace their long reliable
analog ones. TV is one thing, NTSC has never been all that great, and most
at least PERCEIVE an improvement over NTSC... radio is not like that. It's
background noise in most cases now (unlike even 30 years ago). If forced to
replace a large number of radios (most households have at least 5 or 6), I
think most will just abandon radio. I know I will. I refuse to allow the
government to force me to replace something that is already meeting my needs
just fine.

David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
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David Frackelton Gleason, prancing yet again as 'Eduardo', wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
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David Eduardo wrote:

Sure did. 100% of the shares of Radio Musical, Cia. Ltda, licencee by
1970
of 18 or so stations and CPs for additional stations.

Hogwash!

I have given you two dozen names of employees and the reference to the
AER
and the US Consulate's Commercial Attaché, any of which can verify this.
At
this point, you have proven nothing, while I have given many, many
refernces... including DXers who received veries from me and knew, via
visits of several (Larry Godwin, John Hoogerheide), that I owned the
stations and ran them myself-

You may have signed veries... heck, I know of DX'ers who've travelled to
SA and
signed veries.

I signed them as General Manager, and I set up DX tests and answered reports
on my "split frequency" station over a perido of many years. HCFV1 got
hundreds of reports over the years, as nobody else was on 805 anywhere.

One thing is certain, you never signed them as 'Eduardo' as you didn't
develop
that shtick until circa 2000.

I never used my second name until it appeared to be a good way to separate
newsgroup posts from the rest of my life; that started when I was on the
Well and CIS in the mid-80's.

Hogwash!



And, those folks might have visited a station, but that proves NOTHING
since you
were faking it!

Hardly. They say my name on the door that said "gerente propietario" In
fact, I am pretty sure Bruce Reese at Bonneville knows that the former head
of that group, Arch Madsden, visited my stations during the 1968 Assembly of
the AIR in Quito, which I helped organize. Only owners could be members of
the AIR and the AER at the time.

Hogwash!

David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
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David Frackelton Gleason, prancing yet again as 'Eduardo', wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Eduardo wrote:

Sure did. 100% of the shares of Radio Musical, Cia. Ltda, licencee by
1970
of 18 or so stations and CPs for additional stations.

Hogwash!

I have given you two dozen names of employees and the reference to the
AER
and the US Consulate's Commercial Attaché, any of which can verify this.
At
this point, you have proven nothing, while I have given many, many
refernces... including DXers who received veries from me and knew, via
visits of several (Larry Godwin, John Hoogerheide), that I owned the
stations and ran them myself-

You may have signed veries... heck, I know of DX'ers who've travelled to
SA and
signed veries.

I signed them as General Manager, and I set up DX tests and answered reports
on my "split frequency" station over a perido of many years. HCFV1 got
hundreds of reports over the years, as nobody else was on 805 anywhere.

One thing is certain, you never signed them as 'Eduardo' as you didn't
develop
that shtick until circa 2000.

I never used my second name until it appeared to be a good way to separate
newsgroup posts from the rest of my life; that started when I was on the
Well and CIS in the mid-80's.

And, those folks might have visited a station, but that proves NOTHING
since you
were faking it!

Hardly. They say my name on the door that said "gerente propietario" In
fact, I am pretty sure Bruce Reese at Bonneville knows that the former head
of that group, Arch Madsden, visited my stations during the 1968 Assembly of
the AIR in Quito, which I helped organize. Only owners could be members of
the AIR and the AER at the time.

'Eduardo', you are a ****ing pathological liar... proven fact.

Get over it, you fake Hispanic piece of excrement.

dxAce
Michigan
USA