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On Nov 23, 11:24 am, Steve wrote:
On Nov 23, 2:28 am, RHF wrote: On Nov 22, 7:25 pm, " wrote: On Nov 22, 4:14 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote: "Brenda Ann" wrote in message m... "D Peter Maus" wrote in message ... FM failed. Twice. The public didn't care. There was virtually no uptake. Look at it now. FM didn't require people to throw out their old radios and buy new ones. It didn't? How did you listen to FM on an AM radio. Similarly, HD does not require anyone buy a new radio unless they want to... the analog signals continue to be broadcast. Of course, you had the choice of simply not buying an FM radio, which is what 99% of the people did for the first 25 years of FM broadcasting. Color TV didn't require people to throw out their B/W sets and buy an expensive new color set. Color TV didn't interfere with existing B/W television services and was still viewable on existing B/W sets. Just as current radios will continue to receive analog signals. So, then are you saying that HD radio, once all stations go to that, will require everyone to purchase an HD radio - or could one still listen to the station on a regular radio - with just poorer quality reception??- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - BAJ, You can not listen to the "HD" Radio 'Digital' Signal on an Anolog Radio. 1 - Buy a HD Radio and Listen for Free. 2 - Buy a Internet Radio and Pay a Month Fee. 3 - Buy a Satellite Radio and Pay a Month Fee. Your Future Choice : Free -or- Monthly Fee ~ RHF .- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Internet radio requires a fee? I'm still waiting for my first bill in the mail.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Steve, Do You Pay For Internet Access ? Via a Land Line or Cable ? [ ISP Costs ] The average Table Radio is ~25 Watts -while- The average Home PC is ~250 Watts [ 10X ] -extra- "WiFi" Whole House System you pay-through-the-nose month-after-month ~ RHF |
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On Nov 23, 5:42 pm, RHF wrote:
On Nov 23, 11:24 am, Steve wrote: On Nov 23, 2:28 am, RHF wrote: On Nov 22, 7:25 pm, " wrote: On Nov 22, 4:14 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote: "Brenda Ann" wrote in message m... "D Peter Maus" wrote in message ... FM failed. Twice. The public didn't care. There was virtually no uptake. Look at it now. FM didn't require people to throw out their old radios and buy new ones. It didn't? How did you listen to FM on an AM radio. Similarly, HD does not require anyone buy a new radio unless they want to... the analog signals continue to be broadcast. Of course, you had the choice of simply not buying an FM radio, which is what 99% of the people did for the first 25 years of FM broadcasting. Color TV didn't require people to throw out their B/W sets and buy an expensive new color set. Color TV didn't interfere with existing B/W television services and was still viewable on existing B/W sets. Just as current radios will continue to receive analog signals. So, then are you saying that HD radio, once all stations go to that, will require everyone to purchase an HD radio - or could one still listen to the station on a regular radio - with just poorer quality reception??- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - BAJ, You can not listen to the "HD" Radio 'Digital' Signal on an Anolog Radio. 1 - Buy a HD Radio and Listen for Free. 2 - Buy a Internet Radio and Pay a Month Fee. 3 - Buy a Satellite Radio and Pay a Month Fee. Your Future Choice : Free -or- Monthly Fee ~ RHF .- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Internet radio requires a fee? I'm still waiting for my first bill in the mail.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Steve, Do You Pay For Internet Access ? Via a Land Line or Cable ? [ ISP Costs ] The average Table Radio is ~25 Watts -while- The average Home PC is ~250 Watts [ 10X ] -extra- "WiFi" Whole House System you pay-through-the-nose month-after-month ~ RHF .- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yes, but it seems pretty deceptive to call that an internet radio 'fee'. It's a bit like saying you pay a monthly 'fee' to listen to over-the-air radio when you pay your power bill or buy batteries. |
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On Nov 23, 8:21 pm, Steve wrote:
On Nov 23, 5:42 pm, RHF wrote: On Nov 23, 11:24 am, Steve wrote: On Nov 23, 2:28 am, RHF wrote: On Nov 22, 7:25 pm, " wrote: On Nov 22, 4:14 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote: "Brenda Ann" wrote in message m... "D Peter Maus" wrote in message ... FM failed. Twice. The public didn't care. There was virtually no uptake. Look at it now. FM didn't require people to throw out their old radios and buy new ones. It didn't? How did you listen to FM on an AM radio. Similarly, HD does not require anyone buy a new radio unless they want to... the analog signals continue to be broadcast. Of course, you had the choice of simply not buying an FM radio, which is what 99% of the people did for the first 25 years of FM broadcasting. Color TV didn't require people to throw out their B/W sets and buy an expensive new color set. Color TV didn't interfere with existing B/W television services and was still viewable on existing B/W sets. Just as current radios will continue to receive analog signals. So, then are you saying that HD radio, once all stations go to that, will require everyone to purchase an HD radio - or could one still listen to the station on a regular radio - with just poorer quality reception??- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - BAJ, You can not listen to the "HD" Radio 'Digital' Signal on an Anolog Radio. 1 - Buy a HD Radio and Listen for Free. 2 - Buy a Internet Radio and Pay a Month Fee. 3 - Buy a Satellite Radio and Pay a Month Fee. Your Future Choice : Free -or- Monthly Fee ~ RHF .- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Internet radio requires a fee? I'm still waiting for my first bill in the mail.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Steve, Do You Pay For Internet Access ? Via a Land Line or Cable ? [ ISP Costs ] The average Table Radio is ~25 Watts -while- The average Home PC is ~250 Watts [ 10X ] -extra- "WiFi" Whole House System you pay-through-the-nose month-after-month ~ RHF .- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yes, but it seems pretty deceptive to call that an internet radio 'fee'. It's a bit like saying you pay a monthly 'fee' to listen to over-the-air radio when you pay your power bill or buy batteries.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Here's the way I see it. You pay a "fee" for a service if your using that service requires you to pay something over and above what you'd pay were you *not* using that service. Your monthly power bill is not a monthly 'over the air' radio "fee" because you'd be paying your power bill even if you didn't listen to or own a radio. By the same token, your monthly ISP bill is not an internet radio "fee" because you'd be paying it even if you weren't listening to internet radio. |
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On Nov 23, 5:33 pm, Steve wrote:
On Nov 23, 8:21 pm, Steve wrote: On Nov 23, 5:42 pm, RHF wrote: On Nov 23, 11:24 am, Steve wrote: On Nov 23, 2:28 am, RHF wrote: On Nov 22, 7:25 pm, " wrote: On Nov 22, 4:14 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote: "Brenda Ann" wrote in message m... "D Peter Maus" wrote in message ... FM failed. Twice. The public didn't care. There was virtually no uptake. Look at it now. FM didn't require people to throw out their old radios and buy new ones. It didn't? How did you listen to FM on an AM radio. Similarly, HD does not require anyone buy a new radio unless they want to... the analog signals continue to be broadcast. Of course, you had the choice of simply not buying an FM radio, which is what 99% of the people did for the first 25 years of FM broadcasting. Color TV didn't require people to throw out their B/W sets and buy an expensive new color set. Color TV didn't interfere with existing B/W television services and was still viewable on existing B/W sets. Just as current radios will continue to receive analog signals. So, then are you saying that HD radio, once all stations go to that, will require everyone to purchase an HD radio - or could one still listen to the station on a regular radio - with just poorer quality reception??- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - BAJ, You can not listen to the "HD" Radio 'Digital' Signal on an Anolog Radio. 1 - Buy a HD Radio and Listen for Free. 2 - Buy a Internet Radio and Pay a Month Fee. 3 - Buy a Satellite Radio and Pay a Month Fee. Your Future Choice : Free -or- Monthly Fee ~ RHF .- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Internet radio requires a fee? I'm still waiting for my first bill in the mail.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Steve, Do You Pay For Internet Access ? Via a Land Line or Cable ? [ ISP Costs ] The average Table Radio is ~25 Watts -while- The average Home PC is ~250 Watts [ 10X ] -extra- "WiFi" Whole House System you pay-through-the-nose month-after-month ~ RHF .- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yes, but it seems pretty deceptive to call that an internet radio 'fee'. It's a bit like saying you pay a monthly 'fee' to listen to over-the-air radio when you pay your power bill or buy batteries.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - - Here's the way I see it. You pay a "fee" for a service if your using - that service requires you to pay something over and above what you'd - pay were you *not* using that service. Your monthly power bill is not - a monthly 'over the air' radio "fee" because you'd be paying your - power bill even if you didn't listen to or own a radio. By the same - token, your monthly ISP bill is not an internet radio "fee" because - you'd be paying it even if you weren't listening to internet radio. Steve, Yours is a Distorted View 'wink' of the Real Underlaying Monthly Costs of having and using an Internet Radio -via- PC or WiFi. Internet Radio Proponents : What Part of the "Free" in 'Free' Over-the-Air Radio Do You Not Understand ? * No Monthly Fees * Nothing Extra Required to Operate {Stand-A-Lone} -If- Power Cost are Excluded from Both. ~ RHF |
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On Nov 23, 5:21 pm, Steve wrote:
On Nov 23, 5:42 pm, RHF wrote: On Nov 23, 11:24 am, Steve wrote: On Nov 23, 2:28 am, RHF wrote: On Nov 22, 7:25 pm, " wrote: On Nov 22, 4:14 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote: "Brenda Ann" wrote in message m... "D Peter Maus" wrote in message ... FM failed. Twice. The public didn't care. There was virtually no uptake. Look at it now. FM didn't require people to throw out their old radios and buy new ones. It didn't? How did you listen to FM on an AM radio. Similarly, HD does not require anyone buy a new radio unless they want to... the analog signals continue to be broadcast. Of course, you had the choice of simply not buying an FM radio, which is what 99% of the people did for the first 25 years of FM broadcasting. Color TV didn't require people to throw out their B/W sets and buy an expensive new color set. Color TV didn't interfere with existing B/W television services and was still viewable on existing B/W sets. Just as current radios will continue to receive analog signals. So, then are you saying that HD radio, once all stations go to that, will require everyone to purchase an HD radio - or could one still listen to the station on a regular radio - with just poorer quality reception??- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - BAJ, You can not listen to the "HD" Radio 'Digital' Signal on an Anolog Radio. 1 - Buy a HD Radio and Listen for Free. 2 - Buy a Internet Radio and Pay a Month Fee. 3 - Buy a Satellite Radio and Pay a Month Fee. Your Future Choice : Free -or- Monthly Fee ~ RHF .- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Internet radio requires a fee? I'm still waiting for my first bill in the mail.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - - - Steve, - - - - Do You Pay For Internet Access ? - - - - Via a Land Line or Cable ? [ ISP Costs ] - - - - The average Table Radio is ~25 Watts - - -while- The average Home PC is ~250 Watts [ 10X ] - - -extra- "WiFi" Whole House System - - - - you pay-through-the-nose month-after-month ~ RHF - - . - - - Yes, but it seems pretty deceptive to call that an internet radio - 'fee'. It's a bit like saying you pay a monthly 'fee' to listen to - over-the-air radio when you pay your power bill or buy batteries. Steve - Deceptive [ D E C E P T I V E ] - It's The Truth [.] It is part of the cost-of-doing-business just like the True Power-Cost of In-Home Internet Radio is actually Ten Times [10X] the Cost of a Single AM/FM Table Radio Point-of-Fact : Internet Radio -is- Anti-Green -and- Presently An Environmentally Un-Sound Media Distribution System [.] SAVE THE PLANET - LISTEN TO 'FREE' OVER-THE-AIR RADIO ! When an Internet Radio can Function like an basic 'kitchen' AM/FM Radio and be Plug-and-Use like a basic Toaster : * AC Power Plug * Telephone Power Plug [No PC or WiFi] IMHO - Then Internet Radio will have come of Age for Use by the Average Radio Listener. ~ RHF |
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