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On Nov 21, 4:11 am, "Brenda Ann" wrote:
I just received this forward from my friend Pat. The name has been redacted for privacy purposes. ******** Begin quotation*********** Some interesting conversations recently... First is with a salesman at the Best Buy auto radio department. I asked if there was any call for HD Radios. Took him a minute to figure what I meant, but after he understood his answer was no. It seems this specific Best Buy has not sold even one of them. None were on display. It's a very busy store in the corridor between Boston and Providence. Similar conversation at two local Radio Shacks. No interest, didn't remember any sold. Chatting with a guy who works in a local sandwich shop. Early 20's and would like to work in radio. He was well aware of what HD Radio was and called it a scam. Bear in mind that he would like to ba an announcer and has no technical interest at all. His quote was pretty much that radio sounds fine now and why would he spend the money for something that will give no improvement. My question to him was what he thought about HD Radio. Nothing that would lead him in one direction or another. He was much more negative about HD Radio than I would have expected, and also differentiated it from HDTV for which he had praise. There has been a fairly big deal made about the fact that Ford now offers a dealer installed HD Radio. What they have ignored is the Ford Sync that is standard in some Focus models, among others. This offers voice-controlled iPod and other audio choices, but *no* HD Radio. This is a factory-equipped option and not something the dealer has to do. Seems like Ford isn't really behind HD Radio after all. Just tossing iBiquity a very small bone. Local WPRO-630 has had the IBOC turned off for quite a while. And a couple other local IBOC stations don't decode well at all, even in the city grade coverage. I don't see any big interest in IBOC developing for this holiday season. Maybe even less than last year, if that's possible. The Fat Lady is warming up in the wings, and she's in analog. ****** ******* Providence, RI ********* End quotation********** -- Say no to institutionalized interference. Just say NO to HD/IBOC! "There has been a fairly big deal made about the fact that Ford now offers a dealer installed HD Radio. What they have ignored is the Ford Sync that is standard in some Focus models, among others. This offers voice- controlled iPod and other audio choices, but *no* HD Radio. This is a factory- equipped option and not something the dealer has to do. Seems like Ford isn't really behind HD Radio after all. Just tossing iBiquity a very small bone." Here's the scoop on that deal: http://hdradiofarce.blogspot.com/200...ds-dealer.html |
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IBOCcrock wrote:
On Nov 21, 4:11 am, "Brenda Ann" wrote: I just received this forward from my friend Pat. The name has been redacted for privacy purposes. ******** Begin quotation*********** Some interesting conversations recently... First is with a salesman at the Best Buy auto radio department. I asked if there was any call for HD Radios. Took him a minute to figure what I meant, but after he understood his answer was no. It seems this specific Best Buy has not sold even one of them. None were on display. It's a very busy store in the corridor between Boston and Providence. Similar conversation at two local Radio Shacks. No interest, didn't remember any sold. Chatting with a guy who works in a local sandwich shop. Early 20's and would like to work in radio. He was well aware of what HD Radio was and called it a scam. Bear in mind that he would like to ba an announcer and has no technical interest at all. His quote was pretty much that radio sounds fine now and why would he spend the money for something that will give no improvement. My question to him was what he thought about HD Radio. Nothing that would lead him in one direction or another. He was much more negative about HD Radio than I would have expected, and also differentiated it from HDTV for which he had praise. There has been a fairly big deal made about the fact that Ford now offers a dealer installed HD Radio. What they have ignored is the Ford Sync that is standard in some Focus models, among others. This offers voice-controlled iPod and other audio choices, but *no* HD Radio. This is a factory-equipped option and not something the dealer has to do. Seems like Ford isn't really behind HD Radio after all. Just tossing iBiquity a very small bone. Local WPRO-630 has had the IBOC turned off for quite a while. And a couple other local IBOC stations don't decode well at all, even in the city grade coverage. I don't see any big interest in IBOC developing for this holiday season. Maybe even less than last year, if that's possible. The Fat Lady is warming up in the wings, and she's in analog. ****** ******* Providence, RI ********* End quotation********** -- Say no to institutionalized interference. Just say NO to HD/IBOC! "There has been a fairly big deal made about the fact that Ford now offers a dealer installed HD Radio. What they have ignored is the Ford Sync that is standard in some Focus models, among others. This offers voice- controlled iPod and other audio choices, but *no* HD Radio. This is a factory- equipped option and not something the dealer has to do. Seems like Ford isn't really behind HD Radio after all. Just tossing iBiquity a very small bone." Here's the scoop on that deal: http://hdradiofarce.blogspot.com/200...ds-dealer.html Again, with upwards of half a billion dollars in promotion already invested, and the R & D costs, don't expect iBiquity or Radio to give up on IBOC easily. Neither seems concerned at the fact that the public has no interest. But remember that the Powell FCC mandated that all new modulation schemes for broadcast be digital. That, alone, is enough to keep the IBOC flame burning for years to come. And it's only a matter of time before someone begins the push for the transition to all digital broadast. This product is a farce. And the word 'scam' seems to apply more each day. But there's now much too much invested for either iBiquity, or the Radio industry to simply cut their losses and run. Eventually, they'll either embark on a promotional tack that keys on what the public is REALLY interested in, or they'll push for a mandated exit of analog broadcasting, as they're doing in the UK. With mixed results, btw. Expect the latter. The IBOC issue isn't dead by a long shot. With the public it's going nowhere. But Radio has been, for a number of years, now, openly uninterested in what the listener wants. Radio does what RADIO wants. And listeners...well, they're just numbers on a grid. If the listeners' interests were REALLY an issue, half of Fort Worth wouldn't have been blown off the map by tornadoes while the an unsuspecting public was listening to unattended radio stations. |
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On Nov 21, 7:10 am, D Peter Maus wrote:
IBOCcrock wrote: On Nov 21, 4:11 am, "Brenda Ann" wrote: I just received this forward from my friend Pat. The name has been redacted for privacy purposes. ******** Begin quotation*********** Some interesting conversations recently... First is with a salesman at the Best Buy auto radio department. I asked if there was any call for HD Radios. Took him a minute to figure what I meant, but after he understood his answer was no. It seems this specific Best Buy has not sold even one of them. None were on display. It's a very busy store in the corridor between Boston and Providence. Similar conversation at two local Radio Shacks. No interest, didn't remember any sold. Chatting with a guy who works in a local sandwich shop. Early 20's and would like to work in radio. He was well aware of what HD Radio was and called it a scam. Bear in mind that he would like to ba an announcer and has no technical interest at all. His quote was pretty much that radio sounds fine now and why would he spend the money for something that will give no improvement. My question to him was what he thought about HD Radio. Nothing that would lead him in one direction or another. He was much more negative about HD Radio than I would have expected, and also differentiated it from HDTV for which he had praise. There has been a fairly big deal made about the fact that Ford now offers a dealer installed HD Radio. What they have ignored is the Ford Sync that is standard in some Focus models, among others. This offers voice-controlled iPod and other audio choices, but *no* HD Radio. This is a factory-equipped option and not something the dealer has to do. Seems like Ford isn't really behind HD Radio after all. Just tossing iBiquity a very small bone. Local WPRO-630 has had the IBOC turned off for quite a while. And a couple other local IBOC stations don't decode well at all, even in the city grade coverage. I don't see any big interest in IBOC developing for this holiday season. Maybe even less than last year, if that's possible. The Fat Lady is warming up in the wings, and she's in analog. ****** ******* Providence, RI ********* End quotation********** -- Say no to institutionalized interference. Just say NO to HD/IBOC! "There has been a fairly big deal made about the fact that Ford now offers a dealer installed HD Radio. What they have ignored is the Ford Sync that is standard in some Focus models, among others. This offers voice- controlled iPod and other audio choices, but *no* HD Radio. This is a factory- equipped option and not something the dealer has to do. Seems like Ford isn't really behind HD Radio after all. Just tossing iBiquity a very small bone." Here's the scoop on that deal: http://hdradiofarce.blogspot.com/200...sus-fords-deal... Again, with upwards of half a billion dollars in promotion already invested, and the R & D costs, don't expect iBiquity or Radio to give up on IBOC easily. Neither seems concerned at the fact that the public has no interest. But remember that the Powell FCC mandated that all new modulation schemes for broadcast be digital. That, alone, is enough to keep the IBOC flame burning for years to come. And it's only a matter of time before someone begins the push for the transition to all digital broadast. This product is a farce. And the word 'scam' seems to apply more each day. But there's now much too much invested for either iBiquity, or the Radio industry to simply cut their losses and run. Eventually, they'll either embark on a promotional tack that keys on what the public is REALLY interested in, or they'll push for a mandated exit of analog broadcasting, as they're doing in the UK. With mixed results, btw. Expect the latter. The IBOC issue isn't dead by a long shot. With the public it's going nowhere. But Radio has been, for a number of years, now, openly uninterested in what the listener wants. Radio does what RADIO wants. And listeners...well, they're just numbers on a grid. If the listeners' interests were REALLY an issue, half of Fort Worth wouldn't have been blown off the map by tornadoes while the an unsuspecting public was listening to unattended radio stations.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - "A Significant Sign in the Death of HD Radio" "The radio industry is giving off signs that HD Radio is dead, even though we keep hearing bright comments being uttered by iBiquity execs... While the public's pulse on HD isn't beating, the latest glaze over this problem is in a rebuilt HD Radio Alliance web site to educate retailers and sales personnel on the benefits of HD Radio...This is death sign #1... HD Radio's death is imminent. It's only a matter of time, if you read the signs." http://www.audiographics.com/agd/102607-1.htm "IBiquity sees digital radio signaling changes to come" "The company has yet to turn a profit and does not expect to do so in 2007 or 2008, Struble said... Mass marketing and consumer adoption is the last hurdle, Struble said... Representatives of investment firms that have spots on iBiquity's board of directors could not be reached for comment, but Struble said they are excited about the progress the company is making. The focus is not on exit strategies yet, he said." http://tinyurl.com/3don5y "Bellwether BE Makes Some Changes?" "BE is going through some less pleasant changes right now. Within a few weeks' time the manufacturer of transmitters and digital audio and data products lost its global sales VP; it laid off some of its employees; and it announced the retirement of its CEO of eight years, John Pedlow -- news that came, at least to me, suddenly... It's probably no secret that the rate of HD Radio adoption has slowed in the United States. There are new opportunities that exist in other countries; Mexico and Brazil come to mind; sales there are few but promising. The whole industry is in a bit of a null in the HD transition but I don't think anyone's long-term plans have changed." http://www.rwonline.com/pages/s.0044/t.9546.html "Have 200 HD Radio stations gone missing?" "The HD Radio camp is advertising that there are currently over 1,500 radio stations now broadcasting in HD (from its website, to press releases as well as in various other promotions)... but yet only 1,300 have filed with the FCC." http://www.orbitcast.com/archives/ha...e-missing.html "IS IBIQUITY RENEGING ON A REBATE OFFER?" "CGC #791 mentioned a limited-time price for the entry-level Radiosophy HD100 digital radio receiver and there was a handsome rebate offered from iBiquity. It now appears that iBiquity's rebate contractor is balking on issuing some rebates, and we'd like to determine the extent of the problem... We'll let you know if significant trends develop." http://www.bext.com/_CGC/2007/cgc807.htm "Time of Reckoning Nears for HD Radio" "With a Stalled Rollout and Little Support From the Big Three, Are Industry Insiders Starting to Doubt HD? The HD rollout seems to have gotten caught in a bit of a Catch-22. With every passing month, I'm sensing a larger number of industry insiders growing more apprehensive about the rollout and whether HD-R technology can or will ultimately succeed." http://www.rwonline.com/pages/s.0048/t.9030.html "Is HD Radio Toast?" "There are serious issues of coverage. Early adopters who bought HD radios report serious drop-outs, poor coverage, and interference. The engineers of Ibiquity may argue otherwise and defend the system, but the industry has a serious PR problem with the very people we need to get the word out on HD... In other words, everything you can find on the regular FM dial... The word has already gotten out about HD Radio. People who have already bought an HD Radio are telling others of their experience (mostly bad) and no amount of marketing will reverse this." http://www.fmqb.com/article.asp?id=487772 "HD Radio - Wherefore Art Thou?" "Just contemplate that thought for a second before moving on, because there's something around the corner that may cripple HD Radio far worse than lackluster consumer interest, or inability to get the product on store shelves. Second's up. If the push to make broadcast radio pay the same exorbitant fees for "performance royalties" that internet radio is facing wins, every side-channel that's in this rush to HD will be included in the invoice. How's that for an HD Radio killer?" http://www.audiographics.com/agd/080207-1.htm |
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On Nov 21, 7:10 am, D Peter Maus wrote:
IBOCcrock wrote: On Nov 21, 4:11 am, "Brenda Ann" wrote: I just received this forward from my friend Pat. The name has been redacted for privacy purposes. ******** Begin quotation*********** Some interesting conversations recently... First is with a salesman at the Best Buy auto radio department. I asked if there was any call for HD Radios. Took him a minute to figure what I meant, but after he understood his answer was no. It seems this specific Best Buy has not sold even one of them. None were on display. It's a very busy store in the corridor between Boston and Providence. Similar conversation at two local Radio Shacks. No interest, didn't remember any sold. Chatting with a guy who works in a local sandwich shop. Early 20's and would like to work in radio. He was well aware of what HD Radio was and called it a scam. Bear in mind that he would like to ba an announcer and has no technical interest at all. His quote was pretty much that radio sounds fine now and why would he spend the money for something that will give no improvement. My question to him was what he thought about HD Radio. Nothing that would lead him in one direction or another. He was much more negative about HD Radio than I would have expected, and also differentiated it from HDTV for which he had praise. There has been a fairly big deal made about the fact that Ford now offers a dealer installed HD Radio. What they have ignored is the Ford Sync that is standard in some Focus models, among others. This offers voice-controlled iPod and other audio choices, but *no* HD Radio. This is a factory-equipped option and not something the dealer has to do. Seems like Ford isn't really behind HD Radio after all. Just tossing iBiquity a very small bone. Local WPRO-630 has had the IBOC turned off for quite a while. And a couple other local IBOC stations don't decode well at all, even in the city grade coverage. I don't see any big interest in IBOC developing for this holiday season. Maybe even less than last year, if that's possible. The Fat Lady is warming up in the wings, and she's in analog. ****** ******* Providence, RI ********* End quotation********** -- Say no to institutionalized interference. Just say NO to HD/IBOC! "There has been a fairly big deal made about the fact that Ford now offers a dealer installed HD Radio. What they have ignored is the Ford Sync that is standard in some Focus models, among others. This offers voice- controlled iPod and other audio choices, but *no* HD Radio. This is a factory- equipped option and not something the dealer has to do. Seems like Ford isn't really behind HD Radio after all. Just tossing iBiquity a very small bone." Here's the scoop on that deal: http://hdradiofarce.blogspot.com/200...sus-fords-deal... Again, with upwards of half a billion dollars in promotion already invested, and the R & D costs, don't expect iBiquity or Radio to give up on IBOC easily. Neither seems concerned at the fact that the public has no interest. But remember that the Powell FCC mandated that all new modulation schemes for broadcast be digital. That, alone, is enough to keep the IBOC flame burning for years to come. And it's only a matter of time before someone begins the push for the transition to all digital broadast. This product is a farce. And the word 'scam' seems to apply more each day. But there's now much too much invested for either iBiquity, or the Radio industry to simply cut their losses and run. Eventually, they'll either embark on a promotional tack that keys on what the public is REALLY interested in, or they'll push for a mandated exit of analog broadcasting, as they're doing in the UK. With mixed results, btw. Expect the latter. The IBOC issue isn't dead by a long shot. With the public it's going nowhere. But Radio has been, for a number of years, now, openly uninterested in what the listener wants. Radio does what RADIO wants. And listeners...well, they're just numbers on a grid. If the listeners' interests were REALLY an issue, half of Fort Worth wouldn't have been blown off the map by tornadoes while the an unsuspecting public was listening to unattended radio stations.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - And, if consumers never buy HD radios, then a digital mandate will put an end to terrestrial radio - maybe, that would be a good thing. |
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IBOCcrock wrote:
On Nov 21, 7:10 am, D Peter Maus wrote: IBOCcrock wrote: On Nov 21, 4:11 am, "Brenda Ann" wrote: I just received this forward from my friend Pat. The name has been redacted for privacy purposes. ******** Begin quotation*********** Some interesting conversations recently... First is with a salesman at the Best Buy auto radio department. I asked if there was any call for HD Radios. Took him a minute to figure what I meant, but after he understood his answer was no. It seems this specific Best Buy has not sold even one of them. None were on display. It's a very busy store in the corridor between Boston and Providence. Similar conversation at two local Radio Shacks. No interest, didn't remember any sold. Chatting with a guy who works in a local sandwich shop. Early 20's and would like to work in radio. He was well aware of what HD Radio was and called it a scam. Bear in mind that he would like to ba an announcer and has no technical interest at all. His quote was pretty much that radio sounds fine now and why would he spend the money for something that will give no improvement. My question to him was what he thought about HD Radio. Nothing that would lead him in one direction or another. He was much more negative about HD Radio than I would have expected, and also differentiated it from HDTV for which he had praise. There has been a fairly big deal made about the fact that Ford now offers a dealer installed HD Radio. What they have ignored is the Ford Sync that is standard in some Focus models, among others. This offers voice-controlled iPod and other audio choices, but *no* HD Radio. This is a factory-equipped option and not something the dealer has to do. Seems like Ford isn't really behind HD Radio after all. Just tossing iBiquity a very small bone. Local WPRO-630 has had the IBOC turned off for quite a while. And a couple other local IBOC stations don't decode well at all, even in the city grade coverage. I don't see any big interest in IBOC developing for this holiday season. Maybe even less than last year, if that's possible. The Fat Lady is warming up in the wings, and she's in analog. ****** ******* Providence, RI ********* End quotation********** -- Say no to institutionalized interference. Just say NO to HD/IBOC! "There has been a fairly big deal made about the fact that Ford now offers a dealer installed HD Radio. What they have ignored is the Ford Sync that is standard in some Focus models, among others. This offers voice- controlled iPod and other audio choices, but *no* HD Radio. This is a factory- equipped option and not something the dealer has to do. Seems like Ford isn't really behind HD Radio after all. Just tossing iBiquity a very small bone." Here's the scoop on that deal: http://hdradiofarce.blogspot.com/200...sus-fords-deal... Again, with upwards of half a billion dollars in promotion already invested, and the R & D costs, don't expect iBiquity or Radio to give up on IBOC easily. Neither seems concerned at the fact that the public has no interest. But remember that the Powell FCC mandated that all new modulation schemes for broadcast be digital. That, alone, is enough to keep the IBOC flame burning for years to come. And it's only a matter of time before someone begins the push for the transition to all digital broadast. This product is a farce. And the word 'scam' seems to apply more each day. But there's now much too much invested for either iBiquity, or the Radio industry to simply cut their losses and run. Eventually, they'll either embark on a promotional tack that keys on what the public is REALLY interested in, or they'll push for a mandated exit of analog broadcasting, as they're doing in the UK. With mixed results, btw. Expect the latter. The IBOC issue isn't dead by a long shot. With the public it's going nowhere. But Radio has been, for a number of years, now, openly uninterested in what the listener wants. Radio does what RADIO wants. And listeners...well, they're just numbers on a grid. If the listeners' interests were REALLY an issue, half of Fort Worth wouldn't have been blown off the map by tornadoes while the an unsuspecting public was listening to unattended radio stations.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - And, if consumers never buy HD radios, then a digital mandate will put an end to terrestrial radio - maybe, that would be a good thing. No, it won't put an end to terrestrial radio. It will put an end to analog terrestrial radio. But with nearly 250 million active radio listeners, a digital mandate will simply force currenty uninterested listeners to make the switch to digital. The reason the HD uptake has been so slow is that there is no interest. The reason there's been no interest is that there's no perceived need. A digital mandate will create need. The uptake will follow. 250 million active Radio listeners will not simply stop listening because a digital mandate has been made. Many, if not most, of them will make the switch. Because there won't be access to what they currently enjoy every day. In the process, however, a lot of what Radio is, will change. Including the birth of Subscription Terrestrial Radio. And the ability of smaller, more nimble and responsive broadcasters to compete on an equal stage with the big operators. |
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On Nov 21, 10:52 am, D Peter Maus wrote:
IBOCcrock wrote: On Nov 21, 7:10 am, D Peter Maus wrote: IBOCcrock wrote: On Nov 21, 4:11 am, "Brenda Ann" wrote: I just received this forward from my friend Pat. The name has been redacted for privacy purposes. ******** Begin quotation*********** Some interesting conversations recently... First is with a salesman at the Best Buy auto radio department. I asked if there was any call for HD Radios. Took him a minute to figure what I meant, but after he understood his answer was no. It seems this specific Best Buy has not sold even one of them. None were on display. It's a very busy store in the corridor between Boston and Providence. Similar conversation at two local Radio Shacks. No interest, didn't remember any sold. Chatting with a guy who works in a local sandwich shop. Early 20's and would like to work in radio. He was well aware of what HD Radio was and called it a scam. Bear in mind that he would like to ba an announcer and has no technical interest at all. His quote was pretty much that radio sounds fine now and why would he spend the money for something that will give no improvement. My question to him was what he thought about HD Radio. Nothing that would lead him in one direction or another. He was much more negative about HD Radio than I would have expected, and also differentiated it from HDTV for which he had praise. There has been a fairly big deal made about the fact that Ford now offers a dealer installed HD Radio. What they have ignored is the Ford Sync that is standard in some Focus models, among others. This offers voice-controlled iPod and other audio choices, but *no* HD Radio. This is a factory-equipped option and not something the dealer has to do. Seems like Ford isn't really behind HD Radio after all. Just tossing iBiquity a very small bone. Local WPRO-630 has had the IBOC turned off for quite a while. And a couple other local IBOC stations don't decode well at all, even in the city grade coverage. I don't see any big interest in IBOC developing for this holiday season. Maybe even less than last year, if that's possible. The Fat Lady is warming up in the wings, and she's in analog. ****** ******* Providence, RI ********* End quotation********** -- Say no to institutionalized interference. Just say NO to HD/IBOC! "There has been a fairly big deal made about the fact that Ford now offers a dealer installed HD Radio. What they have ignored is the Ford Sync that is standard in some Focus models, among others. This offers voice- controlled iPod and other audio choices, but *no* HD Radio. This is a factory- equipped option and not something the dealer has to do. Seems like Ford isn't really behind HD Radio after all. Just tossing iBiquity a very small bone." Here's the scoop on that deal: http://hdradiofarce.blogspot.com/200...sus-fords-deal... Again, with upwards of half a billion dollars in promotion already invested, and the R & D costs, don't expect iBiquity or Radio to give up on IBOC easily. Neither seems concerned at the fact that the public has no interest. But remember that the Powell FCC mandated that all new modulation schemes for broadcast be digital. That, alone, is enough to keep the IBOC flame burning for years to come. And it's only a matter of time before someone begins the push for the transition to all digital broadast. This product is a farce. And the word 'scam' seems to apply more each day. But there's now much too much invested for either iBiquity, or the Radio industry to simply cut their losses and run. Eventually, they'll either embark on a promotional tack that keys on what the public is REALLY interested in, or they'll push for a mandated exit of analog broadcasting, as they're doing in the UK. With mixed results, btw. Expect the latter. The IBOC issue isn't dead by a long shot. With the public it's going nowhere. But Radio has been, for a number of years, now, openly uninterested in what the listener wants. Radio does what RADIO wants. And listeners...well, they're just numbers on a grid. If the listeners' interests were REALLY an issue, half of Fort Worth wouldn't have been blown off the map by tornadoes while the an unsuspecting public was listening to unattended radio stations.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - And, if consumers never buy HD radios, then a digital mandate will put an end to terrestrial radio - maybe, that would be a good thing. No, it won't put an end to terrestrial radio. It will put an end to analog terrestrial radio. But with nearly 250 million active radio listeners, a digital mandate will simply force currenty uninterested listeners to make the switch to digital. The reason the HD uptake has been so slow is that there is no interest. The reason there's been no interest is that there's no perceived need. A digital mandate will create need. The uptake will follow. 250 million active Radio listeners will not simply stop listening because a digital mandate has been made. Many, if not most, of them will make the switch. Because there won't be access to what they currently enjoy every day. In the process, however, a lot of what Radio is, will change. Including the birth of Subscription Terrestrial Radio. And the ability of smaller, more nimble and responsive broadcasters to compete on an equal stage with the big operators.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - "No, it won't put an end to terrestrial radio. It will put an end to analog terrestrial radio. But with nearly 250 million active radio listeners, a digital mandate will simply force currenty uninterested listeners to make the switch to digital. The reason the HD uptake has been so slow is that there is no interest. The reason there's been no interest is that there's no perceived need." No one can force consumers to buy new digital radios - terrestrial radio is already dying, and this would definatley put an end to it. No one cares about terrestrial radio anymore. TSL is down significantly, so consumers would simply give up on radio - many already have switched to other entertainment mediums. |
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On Nov 21, 10:52 am, D Peter Maus wrote:
IBOCcrock wrote: On Nov 21, 7:10 am, D Peter Maus wrote: IBOCcrock wrote: On Nov 21, 4:11 am, "Brenda Ann" wrote: I just received this forward from my friend Pat. The name has been redacted for privacy purposes. ******** Begin quotation*********** Some interesting conversations recently... First is with a salesman at the Best Buy auto radio department. I asked if there was any call for HD Radios. Took him a minute to figure what I meant, but after he understood his answer was no. It seems this specific Best Buy has not sold even one of them. None were on display. It's a very busy store in the corridor between Boston and Providence. Similar conversation at two local Radio Shacks. No interest, didn't remember any sold. Chatting with a guy who works in a local sandwich shop. Early 20's and would like to work in radio. He was well aware of what HD Radio was and called it a scam. Bear in mind that he would like to ba an announcer and has no technical interest at all. His quote was pretty much that radio sounds fine now and why would he spend the money for something that will give no improvement. My question to him was what he thought about HD Radio. Nothing that would lead him in one direction or another. He was much more negative about HD Radio than I would have expected, and also differentiated it from HDTV for which he had praise. There has been a fairly big deal made about the fact that Ford now offers a dealer installed HD Radio. What they have ignored is the Ford Sync that is standard in some Focus models, among others. This offers voice-controlled iPod and other audio choices, but *no* HD Radio. This is a factory-equipped option and not something the dealer has to do. Seems like Ford isn't really behind HD Radio after all. Just tossing iBiquity a very small bone. Local WPRO-630 has had the IBOC turned off for quite a while. And a couple other local IBOC stations don't decode well at all, even in the city grade coverage. I don't see any big interest in IBOC developing for this holiday season. Maybe even less than last year, if that's possible. The Fat Lady is warming up in the wings, and she's in analog. ****** ******* Providence, RI ********* End quotation********** -- Say no to institutionalized interference. Just say NO to HD/IBOC! "There has been a fairly big deal made about the fact that Ford now offers a dealer installed HD Radio. What they have ignored is the Ford Sync that is standard in some Focus models, among others. This offers voice- controlled iPod and other audio choices, but *no* HD Radio. This is a factory- equipped option and not something the dealer has to do. Seems like Ford isn't really behind HD Radio after all. Just tossing iBiquity a very small bone." Here's the scoop on that deal: http://hdradiofarce.blogspot.com/200...sus-fords-deal... Again, with upwards of half a billion dollars in promotion already invested, and the R & D costs, don't expect iBiquity or Radio to give up on IBOC easily. Neither seems concerned at the fact that the public has no interest. But remember that the Powell FCC mandated that all new modulation schemes for broadcast be digital. That, alone, is enough to keep the IBOC flame burning for years to come. And it's only a matter of time before someone begins the push for the transition to all digital broadast. This product is a farce. And the word 'scam' seems to apply more each day. But there's now much too much invested for either iBiquity, or the Radio industry to simply cut their losses and run. Eventually, they'll either embark on a promotional tack that keys on what the public is REALLY interested in, or they'll push for a mandated exit of analog broadcasting, as they're doing in the UK. With mixed results, btw. Expect the latter. The IBOC issue isn't dead by a long shot. With the public it's going nowhere. But Radio has been, for a number of years, now, openly uninterested in what the listener wants. Radio does what RADIO wants. And listeners...well, they're just numbers on a grid. If the listeners' interests were REALLY an issue, half of Fort Worth wouldn't have been blown off the map by tornadoes while the an unsuspecting public was listening to unattended radio stations.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - And, if consumers never buy HD radios, then a digital mandate will put an end to terrestrial radio - maybe, that would be a good thing. No, it won't put an end to terrestrial radio. It will put an end to analog terrestrial radio. But with nearly 250 million active radio listeners, a digital mandate will simply force currenty uninterested listeners to make the switch to digital. The reason the HD uptake has been so slow is that there is no interest. The reason there's been no interest is that there's no perceived need. A digital mandate will create need. The uptake will follow. 250 million active Radio listeners will not simply stop listening because a digital mandate has been made. Many, if not most, of them will make the switch. Because there won't be access to what they currently enjoy every day. In the process, however, a lot of what Radio is, will change. Including the birth of Subscription Terrestrial Radio. And the ability of smaller, more nimble and responsive broadcasters to compete on an equal stage with the big operators.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Unlike with digital TV, there is no spectrum to be gained be mandating a switch to digital radio - that is why the FCC has left it up to consumres to determine the fate of HD Radio: "4/4/07 - FCC: Market to Decide Fate of HD Radio" http://www.diymedia.net/archive/0407.htm |
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IBOCcrock wrote:
On Nov 21, 10:52 am, D Peter Maus wrote: IBOCcrock wrote: On Nov 21, 7:10 am, D Peter Maus wrote: IBOCcrock wrote: On Nov 21, 4:11 am, "Brenda Ann" wrote: I just received this forward from my friend Pat. The name has been redacted for privacy purposes. ******** Begin quotation*********** Some interesting conversations recently... First is with a salesman at the Best Buy auto radio department. I asked if there was any call for HD Radios. Took him a minute to figure what I meant, but after he understood his answer was no. It seems this specific Best Buy has not sold even one of them. None were on display. It's a very busy store in the corridor between Boston and Providence. Similar conversation at two local Radio Shacks. No interest, didn't remember any sold. Chatting with a guy who works in a local sandwich shop. Early 20's and would like to work in radio. He was well aware of what HD Radio was and called it a scam. Bear in mind that he would like to ba an announcer and has no technical interest at all. His quote was pretty much that radio sounds fine now and why would he spend the money for something that will give no improvement. My question to him was what he thought about HD Radio. Nothing that would lead him in one direction or another. He was much more negative about HD Radio than I would have expected, and also differentiated it from HDTV for which he had praise. There has been a fairly big deal made about the fact that Ford now offers a dealer installed HD Radio. What they have ignored is the Ford Sync that is standard in some Focus models, among others. This offers voice-controlled iPod and other audio choices, but *no* HD Radio. This is a factory-equipped option and not something the dealer has to do. Seems like Ford isn't really behind HD Radio after all. Just tossing iBiquity a very small bone. Local WPRO-630 has had the IBOC turned off for quite a while. And a couple other local IBOC stations don't decode well at all, even in the city grade coverage. I don't see any big interest in IBOC developing for this holiday season. Maybe even less than last year, if that's possible. The Fat Lady is warming up in the wings, and she's in analog. ****** ******* Providence, RI ********* End quotation********** -- Say no to institutionalized interference. Just say NO to HD/IBOC! "There has been a fairly big deal made about the fact that Ford now offers a dealer installed HD Radio. What they have ignored is the Ford Sync that is standard in some Focus models, among others. This offers voice- controlled iPod and other audio choices, but *no* HD Radio. This is a factory- equipped option and not something the dealer has to do. Seems like Ford isn't really behind HD Radio after all. Just tossing iBiquity a very small bone." Here's the scoop on that deal: http://hdradiofarce.blogspot.com/200...sus-fords-deal... Again, with upwards of half a billion dollars in promotion already invested, and the R & D costs, don't expect iBiquity or Radio to give up on IBOC easily. Neither seems concerned at the fact that the public has no interest. But remember that the Powell FCC mandated that all new modulation schemes for broadcast be digital. That, alone, is enough to keep the IBOC flame burning for years to come. And it's only a matter of time before someone begins the push for the transition to all digital broadast. This product is a farce. And the word 'scam' seems to apply more each day. But there's now much too much invested for either iBiquity, or the Radio industry to simply cut their losses and run. Eventually, they'll either embark on a promotional tack that keys on what the public is REALLY interested in, or they'll push for a mandated exit of analog broadcasting, as they're doing in the UK. With mixed results, btw. Expect the latter. The IBOC issue isn't dead by a long shot. With the public it's going nowhere. But Radio has been, for a number of years, now, openly uninterested in what the listener wants. Radio does what RADIO wants. And listeners...well, they're just numbers on a grid. If the listeners' interests were REALLY an issue, half of Fort Worth wouldn't have been blown off the map by tornadoes while the an unsuspecting public was listening to unattended radio stations.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - And, if consumers never buy HD radios, then a digital mandate will put an end to terrestrial radio - maybe, that would be a good thing. No, it won't put an end to terrestrial radio. It will put an end to analog terrestrial radio. But with nearly 250 million active radio listeners, a digital mandate will simply force currenty uninterested listeners to make the switch to digital. The reason the HD uptake has been so slow is that there is no interest. The reason there's been no interest is that there's no perceived need. A digital mandate will create need. The uptake will follow. 250 million active Radio listeners will not simply stop listening because a digital mandate has been made. Many, if not most, of them will make the switch. Because there won't be access to what they currently enjoy every day. In the process, however, a lot of what Radio is, will change. Including the birth of Subscription Terrestrial Radio. And the ability of smaller, more nimble and responsive broadcasters to compete on an equal stage with the big operators.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - "No, it won't put an end to terrestrial radio. It will put an end to analog terrestrial radio. But with nearly 250 million active radio listeners, a digital mandate will simply force currenty uninterested listeners to make the switch to digital. The reason the HD uptake has been so slow is that there is no interest. The reason there's been no interest is that there's no perceived need." No one can force consumers to buy new digital radios - terrestrial radio is already dying, and this would definatley put an end to it. No one cares about terrestrial radio anymore. TSL is down significantly, so consumers would simply give up on radio - many already have switched to other entertainment mediums. Many have. Many more will not. And if they have an interest in listening to what's on terrestrial radio, and a sizeable number will continue to, if there is a digital mandate, they'll have no choice but to buy the radios. No difference than digital TV. When they turn the NTSC signal off, if you want to watch your local channels, you have no choice but to buy an ATSC device. If they turn off the analog broadcast, listeners will buy digital receivers. No doubt that numbers are sliding for terrestrial radio. But it will not simply go away. Digital or not. |
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IBOCcrock wrote:
On Nov 21, 10:52 am, D Peter Maus wrote: IBOCcrock wrote: On Nov 21, 7:10 am, D Peter Maus wrote: IBOCcrock wrote: On Nov 21, 4:11 am, "Brenda Ann" wrote: I just received this forward from my friend Pat. The name has been redacted for privacy purposes. ******** Begin quotation*********** Some interesting conversations recently... First is with a salesman at the Best Buy auto radio department. I asked if there was any call for HD Radios. Took him a minute to figure what I meant, but after he understood his answer was no. It seems this specific Best Buy has not sold even one of them. None were on display. It's a very busy store in the corridor between Boston and Providence. Similar conversation at two local Radio Shacks. No interest, didn't remember any sold. Chatting with a guy who works in a local sandwich shop. Early 20's and would like to work in radio. He was well aware of what HD Radio was and called it a scam. Bear in mind that he would like to ba an announcer and has no technical interest at all. His quote was pretty much that radio sounds fine now and why would he spend the money for something that will give no improvement. My question to him was what he thought about HD Radio. Nothing that would lead him in one direction or another. He was much more negative about HD Radio than I would have expected, and also differentiated it from HDTV for which he had praise. There has been a fairly big deal made about the fact that Ford now offers a dealer installed HD Radio. What they have ignored is the Ford Sync that is standard in some Focus models, among others. This offers voice-controlled iPod and other audio choices, but *no* HD Radio. This is a factory-equipped option and not something the dealer has to do. Seems like Ford isn't really behind HD Radio after all. Just tossing iBiquity a very small bone. Local WPRO-630 has had the IBOC turned off for quite a while. And a couple other local IBOC stations don't decode well at all, even in the city grade coverage. I don't see any big interest in IBOC developing for this holiday season. Maybe even less than last year, if that's possible. The Fat Lady is warming up in the wings, and she's in analog. ****** ******* Providence, RI ********* End quotation********** -- Say no to institutionalized interference. Just say NO to HD/IBOC! "There has been a fairly big deal made about the fact that Ford now offers a dealer installed HD Radio. What they have ignored is the Ford Sync that is standard in some Focus models, among others. This offers voice- controlled iPod and other audio choices, but *no* HD Radio. This is a factory- equipped option and not something the dealer has to do. Seems like Ford isn't really behind HD Radio after all. Just tossing iBiquity a very small bone." Here's the scoop on that deal: http://hdradiofarce.blogspot.com/200...sus-fords-deal... Again, with upwards of half a billion dollars in promotion already invested, and the R & D costs, don't expect iBiquity or Radio to give up on IBOC easily. Neither seems concerned at the fact that the public has no interest. But remember that the Powell FCC mandated that all new modulation schemes for broadcast be digital. That, alone, is enough to keep the IBOC flame burning for years to come. And it's only a matter of time before someone begins the push for the transition to all digital broadast. This product is a farce. And the word 'scam' seems to apply more each day. But there's now much too much invested for either iBiquity, or the Radio industry to simply cut their losses and run. Eventually, they'll either embark on a promotional tack that keys on what the public is REALLY interested in, or they'll push for a mandated exit of analog broadcasting, as they're doing in the UK. With mixed results, btw. Expect the latter. The IBOC issue isn't dead by a long shot. With the public it's going nowhere. But Radio has been, for a number of years, now, openly uninterested in what the listener wants. Radio does what RADIO wants. And listeners...well, they're just numbers on a grid. If the listeners' interests were REALLY an issue, half of Fort Worth wouldn't have been blown off the map by tornadoes while the an unsuspecting public was listening to unattended radio stations.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - And, if consumers never buy HD radios, then a digital mandate will put an end to terrestrial radio - maybe, that would be a good thing. No, it won't put an end to terrestrial radio. It will put an end to analog terrestrial radio. But with nearly 250 million active radio listeners, a digital mandate will simply force currenty uninterested listeners to make the switch to digital. The reason the HD uptake has been so slow is that there is no interest. The reason there's been no interest is that there's no perceived need. A digital mandate will create need. The uptake will follow. 250 million active Radio listeners will not simply stop listening because a digital mandate has been made. Many, if not most, of them will make the switch. Because there won't be access to what they currently enjoy every day. In the process, however, a lot of what Radio is, will change. Including the birth of Subscription Terrestrial Radio. And the ability of smaller, more nimble and responsive broadcasters to compete on an equal stage with the big operators.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Unlike with digital TV, there is no spectrum to be gained be mandating a switch to digital radio - that is why the FCC has left it up to consumres to determine the fate of HD Radio: "4/4/07 - FCC: Market to Decide Fate of HD Radio" http://www.diymedia.net/archive/0407.htm Things can and do change. Consider....FCC has mandated that all new modulation schemes be digital. Period. They want it digital. It's not likely that as much effort has gone into digital broadcasting to let it die from lack of interest. That's where mandates come from. Keep in mind that digital TV was to be voluntary, as well. With the NTSC broadcasts terminated, market by market, when there was 85% uptake. It wasn't happening fast enough. Suddenly there's a mandate. Buy or die. For now, it's up to the market. When the market fails to respond, mandate is the next step. |
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On Nov 21, 12:40 pm, D Peter Maus wrote:
IBOCcrock wrote: On Nov 21, 10:52 am, D Peter Maus wrote: IBOCcrock wrote: On Nov 21, 7:10 am, D Peter Maus wrote: IBOCcrock wrote: On Nov 21, 4:11 am, "Brenda Ann" wrote: I just received this forward from my friend Pat. The name has been redacted for privacy purposes. ******** Begin quotation*********** Some interesting conversations recently... First is with a salesman at the Best Buy auto radio department. I asked if there was any call for HD Radios. Took him a minute to figure what I meant, but after he understood his answer was no. It seems this specific Best Buy has not sold even one of them. None were on display. It's a very busy store in the corridor between Boston and Providence. Similar conversation at two local Radio Shacks. No interest, didn't remember any sold. Chatting with a guy who works in a local sandwich shop. Early 20's and would like to work in radio. He was well aware of what HD Radio was and called it a scam. Bear in mind that he would like to ba an announcer and has no technical interest at all. His quote was pretty much that radio sounds fine now and why would he spend the money for something that will give no improvement. My question to him was what he thought about HD Radio. Nothing that would lead him in one direction or another. He was much more negative about HD Radio than I would have expected, and also differentiated it from HDTV for which he had praise. There has been a fairly big deal made about the fact that Ford now offers a dealer installed HD Radio. What they have ignored is the Ford Sync that is standard in some Focus models, among others. This offers voice-controlled iPod and other audio choices, but *no* HD Radio. This is a factory-equipped option and not something the dealer has to do. Seems like Ford isn't really behind HD Radio after all. Just tossing iBiquity a very small bone. Local WPRO-630 has had the IBOC turned off for quite a while. And a couple other local IBOC stations don't decode well at all, even in the city grade coverage. I don't see any big interest in IBOC developing for this holiday season. Maybe even less than last year, if that's possible. The Fat Lady is warming up in the wings, and she's in analog. ****** ******* Providence, RI ********* End quotation********** -- Say no to institutionalized interference. Just say NO to HD/IBOC! "There has been a fairly big deal made about the fact that Ford now offers a dealer installed HD Radio. What they have ignored is the Ford Sync that is standard in some Focus models, among others. This offers voice- controlled iPod and other audio choices, but *no* HD Radio. This is a factory- equipped option and not something the dealer has to do. Seems like Ford isn't really behind HD Radio after all. Just tossing iBiquity a very small bone." Here's the scoop on that deal: http://hdradiofarce.blogspot.com/200...sus-fords-deal... Again, with upwards of half a billion dollars in promotion already invested, and the R & D costs, don't expect iBiquity or Radio to give up on IBOC easily. Neither seems concerned at the fact that the public has no interest. But remember that the Powell FCC mandated that all new modulation schemes for broadcast be digital. That, alone, is enough to keep the IBOC flame burning for years to come. And it's only a matter of time before someone begins the push for the transition to all digital broadast. This product is a farce. And the word 'scam' seems to apply more each day. But there's now much too much invested for either iBiquity, or the Radio industry to simply cut their losses and run. Eventually, they'll either embark on a promotional tack that keys on what the public is REALLY interested in, or they'll push for a mandated exit of analog broadcasting, as they're doing in the UK. With mixed results, btw. Expect the latter. The IBOC issue isn't dead by a long shot. With the public it's going nowhere. But Radio has been, for a number of years, now, openly uninterested in what the listener wants. Radio does what RADIO wants. And listeners...well, they're just numbers on a grid. If the listeners' interests were REALLY an issue, half of Fort Worth wouldn't have been blown off the map by tornadoes while the an unsuspecting public was listening to unattended radio stations.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - And, if consumers never buy HD radios, then a digital mandate will put an end to terrestrial radio - maybe, that would be a good thing. No, it won't put an end to terrestrial radio. It will put an end to analog terrestrial radio. But with nearly 250 million active radio listeners, a digital mandate will simply force currenty uninterested listeners to make the switch to digital. The reason the HD uptake has been so slow is that there is no interest. The reason there's been no interest is that there's no perceived need. A digital mandate will create need. The uptake will follow. 250 million active Radio listeners will not simply stop listening because a digital mandate has been made. Many, if not most, of them will make the switch. Because there won't be access to what they currently enjoy every day. In the process, however, a lot of what Radio is, will change. Including the birth of Subscription Terrestrial Radio. And the ability of smaller, more nimble and responsive broadcasters to compete on an equal stage with the big operators.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - "No, it won't put an end to terrestrial radio. It will put an end to analog terrestrial radio. But with nearly 250 million active radio listeners, a digital mandate will simply force currenty uninterested listeners to make the switch to digital. The reason the HD uptake has been so slow is that there is no interest. The reason there's been no interest is that there's no perceived need." No one can force consumers to buy new digital radios - terrestrial radio is already dying, and this would definatley put an end to it. No one cares about terrestrial radio anymore. TSL is down significantly, so consumers would simply give up on radio - many already have switched to other entertainment mediums. Many have. Many more will not. And if they have an interest in listening to what's on terrestrial radio, and a sizeable number will continue to, if there is a digital mandate, they'll have no choice but to buy the radios. No difference than digital TV. When they turn the NTSC signal off, if you want to watch your local channels, you have no choice but to buy an ATSC device. If they turn off the analog broadcast, listeners will buy digital receivers. No doubt that numbers are sliding for terrestrial radio. But it will not simply go away. Digital or not.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - TSL is down significantly and terrestrial radio is dying Consumers will give up their radios before their TVs. Who buys radios anymore - Radio Shack and Best Buy no longer have "radio" departments. Radio is depending of those 800 million existing analog radios, that will not be replaced in any switch to digital. Who comes home and listens to radio anymore - now, it is cell phones, iPods, and the Internet. Radio is yesterday's technology. |
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On Nov 21, 12:47 pm, D Peter Maus wrote:
IBOCcrock wrote: On Nov 21, 10:52 am, D Peter Maus wrote: IBOCcrock wrote: On Nov 21, 7:10 am, D Peter Maus wrote: IBOCcrock wrote: On Nov 21, 4:11 am, "Brenda Ann" wrote: I just received this forward from my friend Pat. The name has been redacted for privacy purposes. ******** Begin quotation*********** Some interesting conversations recently... First is with a salesman at the Best Buy auto radio department. I asked if there was any call for HD Radios. Took him a minute to figure what I meant, but after he understood his answer was no. It seems this specific Best Buy has not sold even one of them. None were on display. It's a very busy store in the corridor between Boston and Providence. Similar conversation at two local Radio Shacks. No interest, didn't remember any sold. Chatting with a guy who works in a local sandwich shop. Early 20's and would like to work in radio. He was well aware of what HD Radio was and called it a scam. Bear in mind that he would like to ba an announcer and has no technical interest at all. His quote was pretty much that radio sounds fine now and why would he spend the money for something that will give no improvement. My question to him was what he thought about HD Radio. Nothing that would lead him in one direction or another. He was much more negative about HD Radio than I would have expected, and also differentiated it from HDTV for which he had praise. There has been a fairly big deal made about the fact that Ford now offers a dealer installed HD Radio. What they have ignored is the Ford Sync that is standard in some Focus models, among others. This offers voice-controlled iPod and other audio choices, but *no* HD Radio. This is a factory-equipped option and not something the dealer has to do. Seems like Ford isn't really behind HD Radio after all. Just tossing iBiquity a very small bone. Local WPRO-630 has had the IBOC turned off for quite a while. And a couple other local IBOC stations don't decode well at all, even in the city grade coverage. I don't see any big interest in IBOC developing for this holiday season. Maybe even less than last year, if that's possible. The Fat Lady is warming up in the wings, and she's in analog. ****** ******* Providence, RI ********* End quotation********** -- Say no to institutionalized interference. Just say NO to HD/IBOC! "There has been a fairly big deal made about the fact that Ford now offers a dealer installed HD Radio. What they have ignored is the Ford Sync that is standard in some Focus models, among others. This offers voice- controlled iPod and other audio choices, but *no* HD Radio. This is a factory- equipped option and not something the dealer has to do. Seems like Ford isn't really behind HD Radio after all. Just tossing iBiquity a very small bone." Here's the scoop on that deal: http://hdradiofarce.blogspot.com/200...sus-fords-deal... Again, with upwards of half a billion dollars in promotion already invested, and the R & D costs, don't expect iBiquity or Radio to give up on IBOC easily. Neither seems concerned at the fact that the public has no interest. But remember that the Powell FCC mandated that all new modulation schemes for broadcast be digital. That, alone, is enough to keep the IBOC flame burning for years to come. And it's only a matter of time before someone begins the push for the transition to all digital broadast. This product is a farce. And the word 'scam' seems to apply more each day. But there's now much too much invested for either iBiquity, or the Radio industry to simply cut their losses and run. Eventually, they'll either embark on a promotional tack that keys on what the public is REALLY interested in, or they'll push for a mandated exit of analog broadcasting, as they're doing in the UK. With mixed results, btw. Expect the latter. The IBOC issue isn't dead by a long shot. With the public it's going nowhere. But Radio has been, for a number of years, now, openly uninterested in what the listener wants. Radio does what RADIO wants. And listeners...well, they're just numbers on a grid. If the listeners' interests were REALLY an issue, half of Fort Worth wouldn't have been blown off the map by tornadoes while the an unsuspecting public was listening to unattended radio stations.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - And, if consumers never buy HD radios, then a digital mandate will put an end to terrestrial radio - maybe, that would be a good thing. No, it won't put an end to terrestrial radio. It will put an end to analog terrestrial radio. But with nearly 250 million active radio listeners, a digital mandate will simply force currenty uninterested listeners to make the switch to digital. The reason the HD uptake has been so slow is that there is no interest. The reason there's been no interest is that there's no perceived need. A digital mandate will create need. The uptake will follow. 250 million active Radio listeners will not simply stop listening because a digital mandate has been made. Many, if not most, of them will make the switch. Because there won't be access to what they currently enjoy every day. In the process, however, a lot of what Radio is, will change. Including the birth of Subscription Terrestrial Radio. And the ability of smaller, more nimble and responsive broadcasters to compete on an equal stage with the big operators.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Unlike with digital TV, there is no spectrum to be gained be mandating a switch to digital radio - that is why the FCC has left it up to consumres to determine the fate of HD Radio: "4/4/07 - FCC: Market to Decide Fate of HD Radio" http://www.diymedia.net/archive/0407.htm Things can and do change. Consider....FCC has mandated that all new modulation schemes be digital. Period. They want it digital. It's not likely that as much effort has gone into digital broadcasting to let it die from lack of interest. That's where mandates come from. Keep in mind that digital TV was to be voluntary, as well. With the NTSC broadcasts terminated, market by market, when there was 85% uptake. It wasn't happening fast enough. Suddenly there's a mandate. Buy or die. For now, it's up to the market. When the market fails to respond, mandate is the next step.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - "4/4/07 - FCC: Market to Decide Fate of HD Radio" http://www.diymedia.net/archive/0407.htm Dream on. |
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IBOCcrock wrote:
On Nov 21, 12:40 pm, D Peter Maus wrote: IBOCcrock wrote: On Nov 21, 10:52 am, D Peter Maus wrote: IBOCcrock wrote: On Nov 21, 7:10 am, D Peter Maus wrote: IBOCcrock wrote: On Nov 21, 4:11 am, "Brenda Ann" wrote: I just received this forward from my friend Pat. The name has been redacted for privacy purposes. ******** Begin quotation*********** Some interesting conversations recently... First is with a salesman at the Best Buy auto radio department. I asked if there was any call for HD Radios. Took him a minute to figure what I meant, but after he understood his answer was no. It seems this specific Best Buy has not sold even one of them. None were on display. It's a very busy store in the corridor between Boston and Providence. Similar conversation at two local Radio Shacks. No interest, didn't remember any sold. Chatting with a guy who works in a local sandwich shop. Early 20's and would like to work in radio. He was well aware of what HD Radio was and called it a scam. Bear in mind that he would like to ba an announcer and has no technical interest at all. His quote was pretty much that radio sounds fine now and why would he spend the money for something that will give no improvement. My question to him was what he thought about HD Radio. Nothing that would lead him in one direction or another. He was much more negative about HD Radio than I would have expected, and also differentiated it from HDTV for which he had praise. There has been a fairly big deal made about the fact that Ford now offers a dealer installed HD Radio. What they have ignored is the Ford Sync that is standard in some Focus models, among others. This offers voice-controlled iPod and other audio choices, but *no* HD Radio. This is a factory-equipped option and not something the dealer has to do. Seems like Ford isn't really behind HD Radio after all. Just tossing iBiquity a very small bone. Local WPRO-630 has had the IBOC turned off for quite a while. And a couple other local IBOC stations don't decode well at all, even in the city grade coverage. I don't see any big interest in IBOC developing for this holiday season. Maybe even less than last year, if that's possible. The Fat Lady is warming up in the wings, and she's in analog. ****** ******* Providence, RI ********* End quotation********** -- Say no to institutionalized interference. Just say NO to HD/IBOC! "There has been a fairly big deal made about the fact that Ford now offers a dealer installed HD Radio. What they have ignored is the Ford Sync that is standard in some Focus models, among others. This offers voice- controlled iPod and other audio choices, but *no* HD Radio. This is a factory- equipped option and not something the dealer has to do. Seems like Ford isn't really behind HD Radio after all. Just tossing iBiquity a very small bone." Here's the scoop on that deal: http://hdradiofarce.blogspot.com/200...sus-fords-deal... Again, with upwards of half a billion dollars in promotion already invested, and the R & D costs, don't expect iBiquity or Radio to give up on IBOC easily. Neither seems concerned at the fact that the public has no interest. But remember that the Powell FCC mandated that all new modulation schemes for broadcast be digital. That, alone, is enough to keep the IBOC flame burning for years to come. And it's only a matter of time before someone begins the push for the transition to all digital broadast. This product is a farce. And the word 'scam' seems to apply more each day. But there's now much too much invested for either iBiquity, or the Radio industry to simply cut their losses and run. Eventually, they'll either embark on a promotional tack that keys on what the public is REALLY interested in, or they'll push for a mandated exit of analog broadcasting, as they're doing in the UK. With mixed results, btw. Expect the latter. The IBOC issue isn't dead by a long shot. With the public it's going nowhere. But Radio has been, for a number of years, now, openly uninterested in what the listener wants. Radio does what RADIO wants. And listeners...well, they're just numbers on a grid. If the listeners' interests were REALLY an issue, half of Fort Worth wouldn't have been blown off the map by tornadoes while the an unsuspecting public was listening to unattended radio stations.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - And, if consumers never buy HD radios, then a digital mandate will put an end to terrestrial radio - maybe, that would be a good thing. No, it won't put an end to terrestrial radio. It will put an end to analog terrestrial radio. But with nearly 250 million active radio listeners, a digital mandate will simply force currenty uninterested listeners to make the switch to digital. The reason the HD uptake has been so slow is that there is no interest. The reason there's been no interest is that there's no perceived need. A digital mandate will create need. The uptake will follow. 250 million active Radio listeners will not simply stop listening because a digital mandate has been made. Many, if not most, of them will make the switch. Because there won't be access to what they currently enjoy every day. In the process, however, a lot of what Radio is, will change. Including the birth of Subscription Terrestrial Radio. And the ability of smaller, more nimble and responsive broadcasters to compete on an equal stage with the big operators.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - "No, it won't put an end to terrestrial radio. It will put an end to analog terrestrial radio. But with nearly 250 million active radio listeners, a digital mandate will simply force currenty uninterested listeners to make the switch to digital. The reason the HD uptake has been so slow is that there is no interest. The reason there's been no interest is that there's no perceived need." No one can force consumers to buy new digital radios - terrestrial radio is already dying, and this would definatley put an end to it. No one cares about terrestrial radio anymore. TSL is down significantly, so consumers would simply give up on radio - many already have switched to other entertainment mediums. Many have. Many more will not. And if they have an interest in listening to what's on terrestrial radio, and a sizeable number will continue to, if there is a digital mandate, they'll have no choice but to buy the radios. No difference than digital TV. When they turn the NTSC signal off, if you want to watch your local channels, you have no choice but to buy an ATSC device. If they turn off the analog broadcast, listeners will buy digital receivers. No doubt that numbers are sliding for terrestrial radio. But it will not simply go away. Digital or not.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - TSL is down significantly and terrestrial radio is dying Consumers will give up their radios before their TVs. Who buys radios anymore - Radio Shack and Best Buy no longer have "radio" departments. Radio is depending of those 800 million existing analog radios, that will not be replaced in any switch to digital. Not all of them, to be sure. But there WILL be many that are. Who comes home and listens to radio anymore - now, it is cell phones, iPods, and the Internet. Radio is yesterday's technology. About 90% of the population still listens to the radio. Even those with access to, and regular use of, other technologies. Much of what you say is true. But Radio is not going away anytime soon. |
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On Nov 21, 12:47 pm, D Peter Maus wrote: IBOCcrock wrote: On Nov 21, 10:52 am, D Peter Maus wrote: IBOCcrock wrote: On Nov 21, 7:10 am, D Peter Maus wrote: IBOCcrock wrote: On Nov 21, 4:11 am, "Brenda Ann" wrote: I just received this forward from my friend Pat. The name has been redacted for privacy purposes. ******** Begin quotation*********** Some interesting conversations recently... First is with a salesman at the Best Buy auto radio department. I asked if there was any call for HD Radios. Took him a minute to figure what I meant, but after he understood his answer was no. It seems this specific Best Buy has not sold even one of them. None were on display. It's a very busy store in the corridor between Boston and Providence. Similar conversation at two local Radio Shacks. No interest, didn't remember any sold. Chatting with a guy who works in a local sandwich shop. Early 20's and would like to work in radio. He was well aware of what HD Radio was and called it a scam. Bear in mind that he would like to ba an announcer and has no technical interest at all. His quote was pretty much that radio sounds fine now and why would he spend the money for something that will give no improvement. My question to him was what he thought about HD Radio. Nothing that would lead him in one direction or another. He was much more negative about HD Radio than I would have expected, and also differentiated it from HDTV for which he had praise. There has been a fairly big deal made about the fact that Ford now offers a dealer installed HD Radio. What they have ignored is the Ford Sync that is standard in some Focus models, among others. This offers voice-controlled iPod and other audio choices, but *no* HD Radio. This is a factory-equipped option and not something the dealer has to do. Seems like Ford isn't really behind HD Radio after all. Just tossing iBiquity a very small bone. Local WPRO-630 has had the IBOC turned off for quite a while. And a couple other local IBOC stations don't decode well at all, even in the city grade coverage. I don't see any big interest in IBOC developing for this holiday season. Maybe even less than last year, if that's possible. The Fat Lady is warming up in the wings, and she's in analog. ****** ******* Providence, RI ********* End quotation********** -- Say no to institutionalized interference. Just say NO to HD/IBOC! "There has been a fairly big deal made about the fact that Ford now offers a dealer installed HD Radio. What they have ignored is the Ford Sync that is standard in some Focus models, among others. This offers voice- controlled iPod and other audio choices, but *no* HD Radio. This is a factory- equipped option and not something the dealer has to do. Seems like Ford isn't really behind HD Radio after all. Just tossing iBiquity a very small bone." Here's the scoop on that deal: http://hdradiofarce.blogspot.com/200...sus-fords-deal... Again, with upwards of half a billion dollars in promotion already invested, and the R & D costs, don't expect iBiquity or Radio to give up on IBOC easily. Neither seems concerned at the fact that the public has no interest. But remember that the Powell FCC mandated that all new modulation schemes for broadcast be digital. That, alone, is enough to keep the IBOC flame burning for years to come. And it's only a matter of time before someone begins the push for the transition to all digital broadast. This product is a farce. And the word 'scam' seems to apply more each day. But there's now much too much invested for either iBiquity, or the Radio industry to simply cut their losses and run. Eventually, they'll either embark on a promotional tack that keys on what the public is REALLY interested in, or they'll push for a mandated exit of analog broadcasting, as they're doing in the UK. With mixed results, btw. Expect the latter. The IBOC issue isn't dead by a long shot. With the public it's going nowhere. But Radio has been, for a number of years, now, openly uninterested in what the listener wants. Radio does what RADIO wants. And listeners...well, they're just numbers on a grid. If the listeners' interests were REALLY an issue, half of Fort Worth wouldn't have been blown off the map by tornadoes while the an unsuspecting public was listening to unattended radio stations.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - And, if consumers never buy HD radios, then a digital mandate will put an end to terrestrial radio - maybe, that would be a good thing. No, it won't put an end to terrestrial radio. It will put an end to analog terrestrial radio. But with nearly 250 million active radio listeners, a digital mandate will simply force currenty uninterested listeners to make the switch to digital. The reason the HD uptake has been so slow is that there is no interest. The reason there's been no interest is that there's no perceived need. A digital mandate will create need. The uptake will follow. 250 million active Radio listeners will not simply stop listening because a digital mandate has been made. Many, if not most, of them will make the switch. Because there won't be access to what they currently enjoy every day. In the process, however, a lot of what Radio is, will change. Including the birth of Subscription Terrestrial Radio. And the ability of smaller, more nimble and responsive broadcasters to compete on an equal stage with the big operators.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Unlike with digital TV, there is no spectrum to be gained be mandating a switch to digital radio - that is why the FCC has left it up to consumres to determine the fate of HD Radio: "4/4/07 - FCC: Market to Decide Fate of HD Radio" http://www.diymedia.net/archive/0407.htm Things can and do change. Consider....FCC has mandated that all new modulation schemes be digital. Period. They want it digital. It's not likely that as much effort has gone into digital broadcasting to let it die from lack of interest. That's where mandates come from. Keep in mind that digital TV was to be voluntary, as well. With the NTSC broadcasts terminated, market by market, when there was 85% uptake. It wasn't happening fast enough. Suddenly there's a mandate. Buy or die. For now, it's up to the market. When the market fails to respond, mandate is the next step.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - "4/4/07 - FCC: Market to Decide Fate of HD Radio" http://www.diymedia.net/archive/0407.htm Dream on. Rather than repeat myself, I'll just suggest you re-read. p |
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On Nov 21, 1:40 pm, D Peter Maus wrote:
IBOCcrock wrote: On Nov 21, 12:40 pm, D Peter Maus wrote: IBOCcrock wrote: On Nov 21, 10:52 am, D Peter Maus wrote: IBOCcrock wrote: On Nov 21, 7:10 am, D Peter Maus wrote: IBOCcrock wrote: On Nov 21, 4:11 am, "Brenda Ann" wrote: I just received this forward from my friend Pat. The name has been redacted for privacy purposes. ******** Begin quotation*********** Some interesting conversations recently... First is with a salesman at the Best Buy auto radio department. I asked if there was any call for HD Radios. Took him a minute to figure what I meant, but after he understood his answer was no. It seems this specific Best Buy has not sold even one of them. None were on display. It's a very busy store in the corridor between Boston and Providence. Similar conversation at two local Radio Shacks. No interest, didn't remember any sold. Chatting with a guy who works in a local sandwich shop. Early 20's and would like to work in radio. He was well aware of what HD Radio was and called it a scam. Bear in mind that he would like to ba an announcer and has no technical interest at all. His quote was pretty much that radio sounds fine now and why would he spend the money for something that will give no improvement. My question to him was what he thought about HD Radio. Nothing that would lead him in one direction or another. He was much more negative about HD Radio than I would have expected, and also differentiated it from HDTV for which he had praise. There has been a fairly big deal made about the fact that Ford now offers a dealer installed HD Radio. What they have ignored is the Ford Sync that is standard in some Focus models, among others. This offers voice-controlled iPod and other audio choices, but *no* HD Radio. This is a factory-equipped option and not something the dealer has to do. Seems like Ford isn't really behind HD Radio after all. Just tossing iBiquity a very small bone. Local WPRO-630 has had the IBOC turned off for quite a while. And a couple other local IBOC stations don't decode well at all, even in the city grade coverage. I don't see any big interest in IBOC developing for this holiday season. Maybe even less than last year, if that's possible. The Fat Lady is warming up in the wings, and she's in analog. ****** ******* Providence, RI ********* End quotation********** -- Say no to institutionalized interference. Just say NO to HD/IBOC! "There has been a fairly big deal made about the fact that Ford now offers a dealer installed HD Radio. What they have ignored is the Ford Sync that is standard in some Focus models, among others. This offers voice- controlled iPod and other audio choices, but *no* HD Radio. This is a factory- equipped option and not something the dealer has to do. Seems like Ford isn't really behind HD Radio after all. Just tossing iBiquity a very small bone." Here's the scoop on that deal: http://hdradiofarce.blogspot.com/200...sus-fords-deal... Again, with upwards of half a billion dollars in promotion already invested, and the R & D costs, don't expect iBiquity or Radio to give up on IBOC easily. Neither seems concerned at the fact that the public has no interest. But remember that the Powell FCC mandated that all new modulation schemes for broadcast be digital. That, alone, is enough to keep the IBOC flame burning for years to come. And it's only a matter of time before someone begins the push for the transition to all digital broadast. This product is a farce. And the word 'scam' seems to apply more each day. But there's now much too much invested for either iBiquity, or the Radio industry to simply cut their losses and run. Eventually, they'll either embark on a promotional tack that keys on what the public is REALLY interested in, or they'll push for a mandated exit of analog broadcasting, as they're doing in the UK. With mixed results, btw. Expect the latter. The IBOC issue isn't dead by a long shot. With the public it's going nowhere. But Radio has been, for a number of years, now, openly uninterested in what the listener wants. Radio does what RADIO wants. And listeners...well, they're just numbers on a grid. If the listeners' interests were REALLY an issue, half of Fort Worth wouldn't have been blown off the map by tornadoes while the an unsuspecting public was listening to unattended radio stations.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - And, if consumers never buy HD radios, then a digital mandate will put an end to terrestrial radio - maybe, that would be a good thing. No, it won't put an end to terrestrial radio. It will put an end to analog terrestrial radio. But with nearly 250 million active radio listeners, a digital mandate will simply force currenty uninterested listeners to make the switch to digital. The reason the HD uptake has been so slow is that there is no interest. The reason there's been no interest is that there's no perceived need. A digital mandate will create need. The uptake will follow. 250 million active Radio listeners will not simply stop listening because a digital mandate has been made. Many, if not most, of them will make the switch. Because there won't be access to what they currently enjoy every day. In the process, however, a lot of what Radio is, will change. Including the birth of Subscription Terrestrial Radio. And the ability of smaller, more nimble and responsive broadcasters to compete on an equal stage with the big operators.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - "No, it won't put an end to terrestrial radio. It will put an end to analog terrestrial radio. But with nearly 250 million active radio listeners, a digital mandate will simply force currenty uninterested listeners to make the switch to digital. The reason the HD uptake has been so slow is that there is no interest. The reason there's been no interest is that there's no perceived need." No one can force consumers to buy new digital radios - terrestrial radio is already dying, and this would definatley put an end to it. No one cares about terrestrial radio anymore. TSL is down significantly, so consumers would simply give up on radio - many already have switched to other entertainment mediums. Many have. Many more will not. And if they have an interest in listening to what's on terrestrial radio, and a sizeable number will continue to, if there is a digital mandate, they'll have no choice but to buy the radios. No difference than digital TV. When they turn the NTSC signal off, if you want to watch your local channels, you have no choice but to buy an ATSC device. If they turn off the analog broadcast, listeners will buy digital receivers. No doubt that numbers are sliding for terrestrial radio. But it will not simply go away. Digital or not.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - TSL is down significantly and terrestrial radio is dying Consumers will give up their radios before their TVs. Who buys radios anymore - Radio Shack and Best Buy no longer have "radio" departments. Radio is depending of those 800 million existing analog radios, that will not be replaced in any switch to digital. Not all of them, to be sure. But there WILL be many that are. Who comes home and listens to radio anymore - now, it is cell phones, iPods, and the Internet. Radio is yesterday's technology. About 90% of the population still listens to the radio. Even those with access to, and regular use of, other technologies. Much of what you say is true. But Radio is not going away anytime soon.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - That doesn't matter - TSL is down significantly and the old Clear Channel is failing and trying to go private - the whole radio industry is in serious trouble. |
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On Nov 21, 1:42 pm, D Peter Maus wrote:
IBOCcrock wrote: On Nov 21, 12:47 pm, D Peter Maus wrote: IBOCcrock wrote: On Nov 21, 10:52 am, D Peter Maus wrote: IBOCcrock wrote: On Nov 21, 7:10 am, D Peter Maus wrote: IBOCcrock wrote: On Nov 21, 4:11 am, "Brenda Ann" wrote: I just received this forward from my friend Pat. The name has been redacted for privacy purposes. ******** Begin quotation*********** Some interesting conversations recently... First is with a salesman at the Best Buy auto radio department. I asked if there was any call for HD Radios. Took him a minute to figure what I meant, but after he understood his answer was no. It seems this specific Best Buy has not sold even one of them. None were on display. It's a very busy store in the corridor between Boston and Providence. Similar conversation at two local Radio Shacks. No interest, didn't remember any sold. Chatting with a guy who works in a local sandwich shop. Early 20's and would like to work in radio. He was well aware of what HD Radio was and called it a scam. Bear in mind that he would like to ba an announcer and has no technical interest at all. His quote was pretty much that radio sounds fine now and why would he spend the money for something that will give no improvement. My question to him was what he thought about HD Radio. Nothing that would lead him in one direction or another. He was much more negative about HD Radio than I would have expected, and also differentiated it from HDTV for which he had praise. There has been a fairly big deal made about the fact that Ford now offers a dealer installed HD Radio. What they have ignored is the Ford Sync that is standard in some Focus models, among others. This offers voice-controlled iPod and other audio choices, but *no* HD Radio. This is a factory-equipped option and not something the dealer has to do. Seems like Ford isn't really behind HD Radio after all. Just tossing iBiquity a very small bone. Local WPRO-630 has had the IBOC turned off for quite a while. And a couple other local IBOC stations don't decode well at all, even in the city grade coverage. I don't see any big interest in IBOC developing for this holiday season. Maybe even less than last year, if that's possible. The Fat Lady is warming up in the wings, and she's in analog. ****** ******* Providence, RI ********* End quotation********** -- Say no to institutionalized interference. Just say NO to HD/IBOC! "There has been a fairly big deal made about the fact that Ford now offers a dealer installed HD Radio. What they have ignored is the Ford Sync that is standard in some Focus models, among others. This offers voice- controlled iPod and other audio choices, but *no* HD Radio. This is a factory- equipped option and not something the dealer has to do. Seems like Ford isn't really behind HD Radio after all. Just tossing iBiquity a very small bone." Here's the scoop on that deal: http://hdradiofarce.blogspot.com/200...sus-fords-deal... Again, with upwards of half a billion dollars in promotion already invested, and the R & D costs, don't expect iBiquity or Radio to give up on IBOC easily. Neither seems concerned at the fact that the public has no interest. But remember that the Powell FCC mandated that all new modulation schemes for broadcast be digital. That, alone, is enough to keep the IBOC flame burning for years to come. And it's only a matter of time before someone begins the push for the transition to all digital broadast. This product is a farce. And the word 'scam' seems to apply more each day. But there's now much too much invested for either iBiquity, or the Radio industry to simply cut their losses and run. Eventually, they'll either embark on a promotional tack that keys on what the public is REALLY interested in, or they'll push for a mandated exit of analog broadcasting, as they're doing in the UK. With mixed results, btw. Expect the latter. The IBOC issue isn't dead by a long shot. With the public it's going nowhere. But Radio has been, for a number of years, now, openly uninterested in what the listener wants. Radio does what RADIO wants. And listeners...well, they're just numbers on a grid. If the listeners' interests were REALLY an issue, half of Fort Worth wouldn't have been blown off the map by tornadoes while the an unsuspecting public was listening to unattended radio stations.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - And, if consumers never buy HD radios, then a digital mandate will put an end to terrestrial radio - maybe, that would be a good thing. No, it won't put an end to terrestrial radio. It will put an end to analog terrestrial radio. But with nearly 250 million active radio listeners, a digital mandate will simply force currenty uninterested listeners to make the switch to digital. The reason the HD uptake has been so slow is that there is no interest. The reason there's been no interest is that there's no perceived need. A digital mandate will create need. The uptake will follow. 250 million active Radio listeners will not simply stop listening because a digital mandate has been made. Many, if not most, of them will make the switch. Because there won't be access to what they currently enjoy every day. In the process, however, a lot of what Radio is, will change. Including the birth of Subscription Terrestrial Radio. And the ability of smaller, more nimble and responsive broadcasters to compete on an equal stage with the big operators.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Unlike with digital TV, there is no spectrum to be gained be mandating a switch to digital radio - that is why the FCC has left it up to consumres to determine the fate of HD Radio: "4/4/07 - FCC: Market to Decide Fate of HD Radio" http://www.diymedia.net/archive/0407.htm Things can and do change. Consider....FCC has mandated that all new modulation schemes be digital. Period. They want it digital. It's not likely that as much effort has gone into digital broadcasting to let it die from lack of interest. That's where mandates come from. Keep in mind that digital TV was to be voluntary, as well. With the NTSC broadcasts terminated, market by market, when there was 85% uptake. It wasn't happening fast enough. Suddenly there's a mandate. Buy or die. For now, it's up to the market. When the market fails to respond, mandate is the next step.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - "4/4/07 - FCC: Market to Decide Fate of HD Radio" http://www.diymedia.net/archive/0407.htm Dream on. Rather than repeat myself, I'll just suggest you re-read. p- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Same here... shutting off analog would just put an end to an already dying industry. |
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"D Peter Maus" wrote in message ... About 90% of the population still listens to the radio. Even those with access to, and regular use of, other technologies. Actually, it is over 95%. Roughly the same as it was in 1965. |
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"IBOCcrock" wrote in message ... That doesn't matter - TSL is down significantly and the old Clear Channel is failing and trying to go private - the whole radio industry is in serious trouble. Companies go private when the market undervalues them. In the case of Clear, it has strong cash flow, but has suffered from the market's "Viacom Effect" and is underpriced. Going private allows people with money to take advantage of the strong profitability of the company and an amazing set of assets. |
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On Nov 21, 2:00 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"D Peter Maus" wrote in ... About 90% of the population still listens to the radio. Even those with access to, and regular use of, other technologies. Actually, it is over 95%. Roughly the same as it was in 1965. 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 2015 2020 XM 4.30 6.00 8.20 10.66 12.26 14.10 18.47 22.53 Sirius 2.00 3.10 6.55 9.17 12.53 15.03 21.34 27.75 Internet Radio 56.70 72.01 91.45 116.14 147.50 187.33 196.69 226.20 Wireless Internet 5.67 10.10 19.19 34.54 62.18 111.92 125.35 144.15 Mobile phone Streaming 0.00 1.475 3.66 6.97 11.81 20.61 23.70 27.26 HD Radio (Terrestrial) 0.100 0.56 1.05 2.00 4.21 8.84 15.99 25.91 Terrestrial Radio Cume 283.10 279.65 282.84 279.97 278.59 262.57 248.33 235.03 Podcasting 1.0 1.24 2.29 2.66 3.76 4.21 7.20 8.71 *Weekly Persons Using Medium in millions Radio is dying... |
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On Nov 21, 2:01 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"IBOCcrock" wrote in message ... That doesn't matter - TSL is down significantly and the old Clear Channel is failing and trying to go private - the whole radio industry is in serious trouble. Companies go private when the market undervalues them. In the case of Clear, it has strong cash flow, but has suffered from the market's "Viacom Effect" and is underpriced. Going private allows people with money to take advantage of the strong profitability of the company and an amazing set of assets. Going private, along with mergers, is a retreat strategy - CC stock used to be $90, it is no 1/3 of that. It's over... |
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"IBOCcrock" wrote in message ... On Nov 21, 2:00 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote: "D Peter Maus" wrote in ... About 90% of the population still listens to the radio. Even those with access to, and regular use of, other technologies. Actually, it is over 95%. Roughly the same as it was in 1965. 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 2015 2020 Ah, you called Miss Cleo. Ask what Google stock will be at, will you? In the mid-60's, pundits said FM would never make it and radio would die due to TV. Those predictions are as accurate as yours. The satellite numbers are totally bogus, as sat radio has hit a brick wall on new subscriptions and the churn rate is huge after the free trial offers expire. |
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David Eduardo wrote: "D Peter Maus" wrote in message ... About 90% of the population still listens to the radio. Even those with access to, and regular use of, other technologies. Actually, it is over 95%. Roughly the same as it was in 1965. 1965? Heck, that was 35 years before you began imagining that you were Hispanic, 'Eduardo'! |
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"IBOCcrock" wrote in message ... On Nov 21, 2:01 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote: "IBOCcrock" wrote in message ... That doesn't matter - TSL is down significantly and the old Clear Channel is failing and trying to go private - the whole radio industry is in serious trouble. Companies go private when the market undervalues them. In the case of Clear, it has strong cash flow, but has suffered from the market's "Viacom Effect" and is underpriced. Going private allows people with money to take advantage of the strong profitability of the company and an amazing set of assets. Going private, along with mergers, is a retreat strategy - CC stock used to be $90, it is no 1/3 of that. It's over... Mergers are what companies do to grow with no loans. Mergers = growth. In the case of Sirius and XM, merger is being used to survive, and then to grow. Clear stock never hit $90, the sale price is $39 and the value of the Live Nation share distribution is $5 a share. In other words, Clear is down no more than the NASDAQ composite over the same period of time. Yahoo, for example, is off 75% in the same period... making Clear look like an absolute winner in non NYSE / non industrial issues. |
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"dxAce" wrote in message ... David Eduardo wrote: "D Peter Maus" wrote in message ... About 90% of the population still listens to the radio. Even those with access to, and regular use of, other technologies. Actually, it is over 95%. Roughly the same as it was in 1965. 1965? Heck, that was 35 years before you began imagining that you were Hispanic, 'Eduardo'! No, it was the second year of owning and managing and programming a radio station in Ecuador. What accomplishment had you made at age 18? |
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dxAce wrote: David Eduardo wrote: "D Peter Maus" wrote in message ... About 90% of the population still listens to the radio. Even those with access to, and regular use of, other technologies. Actually, it is over 95%. Roughly the same as it was in 1965. 1965? Heck, that was 35 years before you began imagining that you were Hispanic, 'Eduardo'! And... be sure to support the Deport David 'Eduardo' Movement! |
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David Eduardo wrote: "IBOCcrock" wrote in message ... On Nov 21, 2:01 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote: "IBOCcrock" wrote in message ... That doesn't matter - TSL is down significantly and the old Clear Channel is failing and trying to go private - the whole radio industry is in serious trouble. Companies go private when the market undervalues them. In the case of Clear, it has strong cash flow, but has suffered from the market's "Viacom Effect" and is underpriced. Going private allows people with money to take advantage of the strong profitability of the company and an amazing set of assets. Going private, along with mergers, is a retreat strategy - CC stock used to be $90, it is no 1/3 of that. It's over... Mergers are what companies do to grow with no loans. Mergers = growth. In the case of Sirius and XM, merger is being used to survive, and then to grow. Clear stock never hit $90, the sale price is $39 and the value of the Live Nation share distribution is $5 a share. In other words, Clear is down no more than the NASDAQ composite over the same period of time. Yahoo, for example, is off 75% in the same period... making Clear look like an absolute winner in non NYSE / non industrial issues. And you're a winner too, Edweenie! You're the biggest fake in rec.radio.shortwave history. Even bigger than Michael Bryant! |
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David Eduardo wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... David Eduardo wrote: "D Peter Maus" wrote in message ... About 90% of the population still listens to the radio. Even those with access to, and regular use of, other technologies. Actually, it is over 95%. Roughly the same as it was in 1965. 1965? Heck, that was 35 years before you began imagining that you were Hispanic, 'Eduardo'! No, it was the second year of owning and managing and programming a radio station in Ecuador. You owned nothing, oh faux one! What accomplishment had you made at age 18? I didn't lie about being 18! LMFAO at the fraud, dxAce Michigan USA |
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"dxAce" wrote in message ... David Eduardo wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... David Eduardo wrote: "D Peter Maus" wrote in message ... About 90% of the population still listens to the radio. Even those with access to, and regular use of, other technologies. Actually, it is over 95%. Roughly the same as it was in 1965. 1965? Heck, that was 35 years before you began imagining that you were Hispanic, 'Eduardo'! No, it was the second year of owning and managing and programming a radio station in Ecuador. You owned nothing, oh faux one! Sure did. 100% of the shares of Radio Musical, Cia. Ltda, licencee by 1970 of 18 or so stations and CPs for additional stations. What accomplishment had you made at age 18? I didn't lie about being 18! We know... you never were 18. |
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David Eduardo wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... David Eduardo wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... David Eduardo wrote: "D Peter Maus" wrote in message ... About 90% of the population still listens to the radio. Even those with access to, and regular use of, other technologies. Actually, it is over 95%. Roughly the same as it was in 1965. 1965? Heck, that was 35 years before you began imagining that you were Hispanic, 'Eduardo'! No, it was the second year of owning and managing and programming a radio station in Ecuador. You owned nothing, oh faux one! Sure did. 100% of the shares of Radio Musical, Cia. Ltda, licencee by 1970 of 18 or so stations and CPs for additional stations. Hogwash! What accomplishment had you made at age 18? I didn't lie about being 18! We know... you never were 18. You don't know ****, Edweenie. You might fake it, but you don't know it. |
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"dxAce" wrote in message ... David Eduardo wrote: Sure did. 100% of the shares of Radio Musical, Cia. Ltda, licencee by 1970 of 18 or so stations and CPs for additional stations. Hogwash! I have given you two dozen names of employees and the reference to the AER and the US Consulate's Commercial Attaché, any of which can verify this. At this point, you have proven nothing, while I have given many, many refernces... including DXers who received veries from me and knew, via visits of several (Larry Godwin, John Hoogerheide), that I owned the stations and ran them myself- |
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David Frackelton Gleason, prancing yet again as 'Eduardo', wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... David Eduardo wrote: Sure did. 100% of the shares of Radio Musical, Cia. Ltda, licencee by 1970 of 18 or so stations and CPs for additional stations. Hogwash! I have given you two dozen names of employees and the reference to the AER and the US Consulate's Commercial Attaché, any of which can verify this. At this point, you have proven nothing, while I have given many, many refernces... including DXers who received veries from me and knew, via visits of several (Larry Godwin, John Hoogerheide), that I owned the stations and ran them myself- You may have signed veries... heck, I know of DX'ers who've travelled to SA and signed veries. One thing is certain, you never signed them as 'Eduardo' as you didn't develop that shtick until circa 2000. And, those folks might have visited a station, but that proves NOTHING since you were faking it! LMFAO yet again at the faux one, dxAce Michigan USA |
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On Nov 21, 2:07�pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"IBOCcrock" wrote in message ... On Nov 21, 2:00 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote: "D Peter Maus" wrote in ... � �About 90% of the population still listens to the radio. �Even those with access to, and regular use of, other technologies. Actually, it is over 95%. Roughly the same as it was in 1965. 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 2015 2020 Ah, you called Miss Cleo. Ask what Google stock will be at, will you? In the mid-60's, pundits said FM would never make it and radio would die due to TV. Those predictions are as accurate as yours. The satellite numbers are totally bogus, as sat radio has hit a brick wall on new subscriptions and the churn rate is huge after the free trial offers expire. Poor argument - the 1960's didn't have cell phone/streaming, Satellite Radio, the Internet, Internet Radio, etc...no nearly the same situation Bud! |
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On Nov 21, 2:29�pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"IBOCcrock" wrote in message ... On Nov 21, 2:01 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote: "IBOCcrock" wrote in message .... That doesn't matter - TSL is down significantly and the old Clear Channel is failing and trying to go private - the whole radio industry is in serious trouble. Companies go private when the market undervalues them. In the case of Clear, it has strong cash flow, but has suffered from the market's "Viacom Effect" and is underpriced. Going private allows people with money to take advantage of the strong profitability of the company and an amazing set of assets.. Going private, along with mergers, is a retreat strategy - CC stock used to be $90, it is no 1/3 of that. It's over... Mergers are what companies do to grow with no loans. Mergers = growth. In the case of Sirius and XM, merger is being used to survive, and then to grow. Clear stock never hit $90, the sale price is $39 and the value of the Live Nation share distribution is $5 a share. In other words, Clear is down no more than the NASDAQ composite over the same period of time. Yahoo, for example, is off 75% in the same period... making Clear look like an absolute winner in non NYSE / non industrial issues.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - "Clear Channel agrees to $18.7B buyout" "Since January of 2000, Clear Channel stock has fallen from a high of more than $90." http://www.comxmusic.net/news/11-17-2006.html Ho hummm.. another lie! |
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IBOCcrock wrote: On Nov 21, 2:29�pm, "David Eduardo" wrote: "IBOCcrock" wrote in message ... On Nov 21, 2:01 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote: "IBOCcrock" wrote in message ... That doesn't matter - TSL is down significantly and the old Clear Channel is failing and trying to go private - the whole radio industry is in serious trouble. Companies go private when the market undervalues them. In the case of Clear, it has strong cash flow, but has suffered from the market's "Viacom Effect" and is underpriced. Going private allows people with money to take advantage of the strong profitability of the company and an amazing set of assets. Going private, along with mergers, is a retreat strategy - CC stock used to be $90, it is no 1/3 of that. It's over... Mergers are what companies do to grow with no loans. Mergers = growth. In the case of Sirius and XM, merger is being used to survive, and then to grow. Clear stock never hit $90, the sale price is $39 and the value of the Live Nation share distribution is $5 a share. In other words, Clear is down no more than the NASDAQ composite over the same period of time. Yahoo, for example, is off 75% in the same period... making Clear look like an absolute winner in non NYSE / non industrial issues.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - "Clear Channel agrees to $18.7B buyout" "Since January of 2000, Clear Channel stock has fallen from a high of more than $90." http://www.comxmusic.net/news/11-17-2006.html Ho hummm.. another lie! Well, he has a pile of them after over 50 years of being in the lying business! Edweenie makes Michael Bryant look like a novice. |
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On Nov 21, 3:38�pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"dxAce" wrote in message ... David Eduardo wrote: Sure did. 100% of the shares of Radio Musical, Cia. Ltda, licencee by 1970 of 18 or so stations and CPs for additional stations. Hogwash! I have given you two dozen names of employees and the reference to the AER and the US Consulate's Commercial Attach� any of which can verify this. At this point, you have proven nothing, while I have given many, many refernces... including DXers who received veries from me and knew, via visits of several (Larry Godwin, John Hoogerheide), that I owned the stations and ran them myself- "Sirius Canada and Lexus expand partnership" http://www.orbitcast.com/archives/si...tnership..html Again, no one wants HD Radio! |
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"dxAce" wrote in message ... David Frackelton Gleason, prancing yet again as 'Eduardo', wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... David Eduardo wrote: Sure did. 100% of the shares of Radio Musical, Cia. Ltda, licencee by 1970 of 18 or so stations and CPs for additional stations. Hogwash! I have given you two dozen names of employees and the reference to the AER and the US Consulate's Commercial Attaché, any of which can verify this. At this point, you have proven nothing, while I have given many, many refernces... including DXers who received veries from me and knew, via visits of several (Larry Godwin, John Hoogerheide), that I owned the stations and ran them myself- You may have signed veries... heck, I know of DX'ers who've travelled to SA and signed veries. I signed them as General Manager, and I set up DX tests and answered reports on my "split frequency" station over a perido of many years. HCFV1 got hundreds of reports over the years, as nobody else was on 805 anywhere. One thing is certain, you never signed them as 'Eduardo' as you didn't develop that shtick until circa 2000. I never used my second name until it appeared to be a good way to separate newsgroup posts from the rest of my life; that started when I was on the Well and CIS in the mid-80's. And, those folks might have visited a station, but that proves NOTHING since you were faking it! Hardly. They say my name on the door that said "gerente propietario" In fact, I am pretty sure Bruce Reese at Bonneville knows that the former head of that group, Arch Madsden, visited my stations during the 1968 Assembly of the AIR in Quito, which I helped organize. Only owners could be members of the AIR and the AER at the time. |
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"IBOCcrock" wrote in message ... On Nov 21, 2:07?pm, "David Eduardo" wrote: In the mid-60's, pundits said FM would never make it and radio would die due to TV. Those predictions are as accurate as yours. The satellite numbers are totally bogus, as sat radio has hit a brick wall on new subscriptions and the churn rate is huge after the free trial offers expire. Poor argument - the 1960's didn't have cell phone/streaming, Satellite Radio, the Internet, Internet Radio, etc...no nearly the same situation Bud! The advent of TV did not change things at all...and TV was alone in offering a single alternative. Today, none of the alternatives reaches as many people as radio does. None. |
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"IBOCcrock" wrote in message news:642bc7a0-e911-43bd-a85f- Clear stock never hit $90, the sale price is $39 and the value of the Live Nation share distribution is $5 a share. In other words, Clear is down no more than the NASDAQ composite over the same period of time. Yahoo, for example, is off 75% in the same period... making Clear look like an absolute winner in non NYSE / non industrial issues.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - "Clear Channel agrees to $18.7B buyout" "Since January of 2000, Clear Channel stock has fallen from a high of more than $90." http://www.comxmusic.net/news/11-17-2006.html Ho hummm.. another lie! Del Colliano has never run a radio station: he programmed a very bad one Checking Morningstar, the high of CCU never reached 90. I believe Morningstar more than del Colliano, any day. In the same period, Yahoo fell nearly 80% vs. today.... the whole NASDAQ is still way below the peak. You can not judge a single stock if it simply mirrored the market. |
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"D Peter Maus" wrote in message ... About 90% of the population still listens to the radio. Even those with access to, and regular use of, other technologies. Much of what you say is true. But Radio is not going away anytime soon. Perhaps, but I don't think enough of those care about what's there to be forced into buying a bunch of digital radios to replace their long reliable analog ones. TV is one thing, NTSC has never been all that great, and most at least PERCEIVE an improvement over NTSC... radio is not like that. It's background noise in most cases now (unlike even 30 years ago). If forced to replace a large number of radios (most households have at least 5 or 6), I think most will just abandon radio. I know I will. I refuse to allow the government to force me to replace something that is already meeting my needs just fine. |
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David Eduardo wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... David Frackelton Gleason, prancing yet again as 'Eduardo', wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... David Eduardo wrote: Sure did. 100% of the shares of Radio Musical, Cia. Ltda, licencee by 1970 of 18 or so stations and CPs for additional stations. Hogwash! I have given you two dozen names of employees and the reference to the AER and the US Consulate's Commercial Attaché, any of which can verify this. At this point, you have proven nothing, while I have given many, many refernces... including DXers who received veries from me and knew, via visits of several (Larry Godwin, John Hoogerheide), that I owned the stations and ran them myself- You may have signed veries... heck, I know of DX'ers who've travelled to SA and signed veries. I signed them as General Manager, and I set up DX tests and answered reports on my "split frequency" station over a perido of many years. HCFV1 got hundreds of reports over the years, as nobody else was on 805 anywhere. One thing is certain, you never signed them as 'Eduardo' as you didn't develop that shtick until circa 2000. I never used my second name until it appeared to be a good way to separate newsgroup posts from the rest of my life; that started when I was on the Well and CIS in the mid-80's. Hogwash! And, those folks might have visited a station, but that proves NOTHING since you were faking it! Hardly. They say my name on the door that said "gerente propietario" In fact, I am pretty sure Bruce Reese at Bonneville knows that the former head of that group, Arch Madsden, visited my stations during the 1968 Assembly of the AIR in Quito, which I helped organize. Only owners could be members of the AIR and the AER at the time. Hogwash! |
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David Eduardo wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... David Frackelton Gleason, prancing yet again as 'Eduardo', wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... David Eduardo wrote: Sure did. 100% of the shares of Radio Musical, Cia. Ltda, licencee by 1970 of 18 or so stations and CPs for additional stations. Hogwash! I have given you two dozen names of employees and the reference to the AER and the US Consulate's Commercial Attaché, any of which can verify this. At this point, you have proven nothing, while I have given many, many refernces... including DXers who received veries from me and knew, via visits of several (Larry Godwin, John Hoogerheide), that I owned the stations and ran them myself- You may have signed veries... heck, I know of DX'ers who've travelled to SA and signed veries. I signed them as General Manager, and I set up DX tests and answered reports on my "split frequency" station over a perido of many years. HCFV1 got hundreds of reports over the years, as nobody else was on 805 anywhere. One thing is certain, you never signed them as 'Eduardo' as you didn't develop that shtick until circa 2000. I never used my second name until it appeared to be a good way to separate newsgroup posts from the rest of my life; that started when I was on the Well and CIS in the mid-80's. And, those folks might have visited a station, but that proves NOTHING since you were faking it! Hardly. They say my name on the door that said "gerente propietario" In fact, I am pretty sure Bruce Reese at Bonneville knows that the former head of that group, Arch Madsden, visited my stations during the 1968 Assembly of the AIR in Quito, which I helped organize. Only owners could be members of the AIR and the AER at the time. 'Eduardo', you are a ****ing pathological liar... proven fact. Get over it, you fake Hispanic piece of excrement. dxAce Michigan USA |
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