http://www.passband.com/eton-retains-e1-xm-drops-e1

Interestingly, the Passband.com article states that the E1XM is to be
retained and the E1 discontinued. Yet, there have been a number of
folks on the Yahoo E1XM group who have called Eton enquiring as to
this matter and who were told that it was the E1XM that was being
discontinued, while the E1 (non-XM variant) was to be retained in the
product line. I guess this story will require a bit more time before
the facts are entirely sorted out.

In any case, the Eton folks really need to get a consistent story out,
one way or the other. And they should've ensured that there was a
consistent and internally understood position on this prior to CES
2008. As it is, the Eton E1 / E1XM discontinuation bit was presumably
spawned from a comment made by an Eton rep at CES 2008. As result,
for a wide range of radio enthusiasts in various online fora, the
discontinuation story was just as big a news item as the Sat 750
unveilling. And given the apparent feature omissions of the Sat 750
(no sync, no PBT, apparently 2 bandwidth filter selections, as opposed
to the three on the E1), the overall Eton story emanating from CES
2008 was one of a retreat from the premium shortwave portable market.

Time will tell...

junius

On Jan 11, 11:08*pm, junius wrote:
http://www.passband.com/eton-retains-e1-xm-drops-e1

Interestingly, the Passband.com article states that the E1XM is to be
retained and the E1 discontinued. *Yet, there have been a number of
folks on the Yahoo E1XM group who have called Eton enquiring as to
this matter and who were told that it was the E1XM that was being
discontinued, while the E1 (non-XM variant) was to be retained in the
product line. *I guess this story will require a bit more time before
the facts are entirely sorted out.

In any case, the Eton folks really need to get a consistent story out,
one way or the other. *And they should've ensured that there was a
consistent and internally understood position on this prior to CES
2008. *As it is, the Eton E1 / E1XM discontinuation bit was presumably
spawned from a comment made by an Eton rep at CES 2008. *As result,
for a wide range of radio enthusiasts in various online fora, the
discontinuation story was just as big a news item as the Sat 750
unveilling. *And given the apparent feature omissions of the Sat 750
(no sync, no PBT, apparently 2 bandwidth filter selections, as opposed
to the three on the E1), the overall Eton story emanating from CES
2008 was one of a retreat from the premium shortwave portable market.

Time will tell...

junius

Good News - Eton E1 XM Radio is still alive . . .
for a moment things were looking Sirius ! ~ RHF

On Jan 12, 2:08*am, junius wrote:
http://www.passband.com/eton-retains-e1-xm-drops-e1

Interestingly, the Passband.com article states that the E1XM is to be
retained and the E1 discontinued. *Yet, there have been a number of
folks on the Yahoo E1XM group who have called Eton enquiring as to
this matter and who were told that it was the E1XM that was being
discontinued, while the E1 (non-XM variant) was to be retained in the
product line. *I guess this story will require a bit more time before
the facts are entirely sorted out.

In any case, the Eton folks really need to get a consistent story out,
one way or the other. *And they should've ensured that there was a
consistent and internally understood position on this prior to CES
2008. *As it is, the Eton E1 / E1XM discontinuation bit was presumably
spawned from a comment made by an Eton rep at CES 2008. *As result,
for a wide range of radio enthusiasts in various online fora, the
discontinuation story was just as big a news item as the Sat 750
unveilling. *And given the apparent feature omissions of the Sat 750
(no sync, no PBT, apparently 2 bandwidth filter selections, as opposed
to the three on the E1), the overall Eton story emanating from CES
2008 was one of a retreat from the premium shortwave portable market.

Time will tell...

junius

Interesting. There was someone on the yahoo E1 group a while back who
was talking about how sales of the E1 and its variants were lagging
far behind Eton's sales projections. At the time I thought this
sounded pretty ominous, but of course this person was silenced
immediately.

My guess is that there are many more people interested in owning a
radio like the 750 than the E1 and/or E1XM. If I want the sorts of
features sported by the E1, I'll buy a tabletop receiver. For a
portable, I want something lean and relatively simple.

Dear Steve,

I absolutely agree with you about your desires between a portable and
a tabletop. Though there is probably a place for something like the
Eton E1, why, if it is a portable, does it have no handle? And why, if
it's meant to be a serious (no pun intended) radio, does it have only
one external antenna input and a weird one at that?

And why such poor quality control after several years of production?

It's not for me!

Best,

Joe

On Jan 12, 7:50 am, Steve wrote:

Interesting. There was someone on the yahoo E1 group a while back who
was talking about how sales of the E1 and its variants were lagging
far behind Eton's sales projections. At the time I thought this
sounded pretty ominous, but of course this person was silenced
immediately.

My guess is that there are many more people interested in owning a
radio like the 750 than the E1 and/or E1XM. If I want the sorts of
features sported by the E1, I'll buy a tabletop receiver. For a
portable, I want something lean and relatively simple.

On Jan 12, 8:30*am, Joe Analssandrini
wrote:
Dear Steve,

I absolutely agree with you about your desires between a portable and
a tabletop. Though there is probably a place for something like the
Eton E1, why, if it is a portable, does it have no handle? And why, if
it's meant to be a serious (no pun intended) radio, does it have only
one external antenna input and a weird one at that?

And why such poor quality control after several years of production?

It's not for me!

Best,

Joe

On Jan 12, 7:50 am, Steve wrote:



Interesting. There was someone on the yahoo E1 group a while back who
was talking about how sales of the E1 and its variants were lagging
far behind Eton's sales projections. At the time I thought this
sounded pretty ominous, but of course this person was silenced
immediately.

My guess is that there are many more people interested in owning a
radio like the 750 than the E1 and/or E1XM. If I want the sorts of
features sported by the E1, I'll buy a tabletop receiver. For a
portable, I want something lean and relatively simple.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

IMHO - If Eton Corp or anyone else were to "Re-Do"
the Eton E1 Radio in a more traditional Desk-Top Box
like the Drake SW8 : It would sell twice as good ~ RHF
http://www.mwcircle.org/images/resources/sw8_front.jpg
http://www.mwcircle.org/images/resou...comparison.jpg

RHF wrote:
On Jan 12, 8:30 am, Joe Analssandrini
wrote:
Dear Steve,

I absolutely agree with you about your desires between a portable and
a tabletop. Though there is probably a place for something like the
Eton E1, why, if it is a portable, does it have no handle? And why, if
it's meant to be a serious (no pun intended) radio, does it have only
one external antenna input and a weird one at that?

And why such poor quality control after several years of production?

It's not for me!

Best,

Joe

On Jan 12, 7:50 am, Steve wrote:



Interesting. There was someone on the yahoo E1 group a while back who
was talking about how sales of the E1 and its variants were lagging
far behind Eton's sales projections. At the time I thought this
sounded pretty ominous, but of course this person was silenced
immediately.
My guess is that there are many more people interested in owning a
radio like the 750 than the E1 and/or E1XM. If I want the sorts of
features sported by the E1, I'll buy a tabletop receiver. For a
portable, I want something lean and relatively simple.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

IMHO - If Eton Corp or anyone else were to "Re-Do"
the Eton E1 Radio in a more traditional Desk-Top Box
like the Drake SW8 : It would sell twice as good ~ RHF
http://www.mwcircle.org/images/resources/sw8_front.jpg
http://www.mwcircle.org/images/resou...comparison.jpg
.

Give up! There will be no more new HF hobbyist tabletop receivers.
There is no more audience. There is no more market. The world has
moved on.

David wrote:

RHF wrote:
On Jan 12, 8:30 am, Joe Analssandrini
wrote:
Dear Steve,

I absolutely agree with you about your desires between a portable and
a tabletop. Though there is probably a place for something like the
Eton E1, why, if it is a portable, does it have no handle? And why, if
it's meant to be a serious (no pun intended) radio, does it have only
one external antenna input and a weird one at that?

And why such poor quality control after several years of production?

It's not for me!

Best,

Joe

On Jan 12, 7:50 am, Steve wrote:



Interesting. There was someone on the yahoo E1 group a while back who
was talking about how sales of the E1 and its variants were lagging
far behind Eton's sales projections. At the time I thought this
sounded pretty ominous, but of course this person was silenced
immediately.
My guess is that there are many more people interested in owning a
radio like the 750 than the E1 and/or E1XM. If I want the sorts of
features sported by the E1, I'll buy a tabletop receiver. For a
portable, I want something lean and relatively simple.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

IMHO - If Eton Corp or anyone else were to "Re-Do"
the Eton E1 Radio in a more traditional Desk-Top Box
like the Drake SW8 : It would sell twice as good ~ RHF
http://www.mwcircle.org/images/resources/sw8_front.jpg
http://www.mwcircle.org/images/resou...comparison.jpg
.

Give up! There will be no more new HF hobbyist tabletop receivers.
There is no more audience. There is no more market. The world has
moved on.

Suggest you move on as well.

In article ,
David wrote:

RHF wrote:
On Jan 12, 8:30 am, Joe Analssandrini
wrote:
Dear Steve,

I absolutely agree with you about your desires between a portable and
a tabletop. Though there is probably a place for something like the
Eton E1, why, if it is a portable, does it have no handle? And why, if
it's meant to be a serious (no pun intended) radio, does it have only
one external antenna input and a weird one at that?

And why such poor quality control after several years of production?

It's not for me!

Best,

Joe

On Jan 12, 7:50 am, Steve wrote:



Interesting. There was someone on the yahoo E1 group a while back who
was talking about how sales of the E1 and its variants were lagging
far behind Eton's sales projections. At the time I thought this
sounded pretty ominous, but of course this person was silenced
immediately.
My guess is that there are many more people interested in owning a
radio like the 750 than the E1 and/or E1XM. If I want the sorts of
features sported by the E1, I'll buy a tabletop receiver. For a
portable, I want something lean and relatively simple.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

IMHO - If Eton Corp or anyone else were to "Re-Do"
the Eton E1 Radio in a more traditional Desk-Top Box
like the Drake SW8 : It would sell twice as good ~ RHF
http://www.mwcircle.org/images/resources/sw8_front.jpg
http://www.mwcircle.org/images/resou...comparison.jpg
.

Give up! There will be no more new HF hobbyist tabletop receivers.
There is no more audience. There is no more market. The world has
moved on.

Take another hit on the pipe and go to bed. Don't let the door hit you
in the fanny on the way out.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Telamon wrote:
In article ,
David wrote:

RHF wrote:
On Jan 12, 8:30 am, Joe Analssandrini
wrote:
Dear Steve,

I absolutely agree with you about your desires between a portable and
a tabletop. Though there is probably a place for something like the
Eton E1, why, if it is a portable, does it have no handle? And why, if
it's meant to be a serious (no pun intended) radio, does it have only
one external antenna input and a weird one at that?

And why such poor quality control after several years of production?

It's not for me!

Best,

Joe

On Jan 12, 7:50 am, Steve wrote:



Interesting. There was someone on the yahoo E1 group a while back who
was talking about how sales of the E1 and its variants were lagging
far behind Eton's sales projections. At the time I thought this
sounded pretty ominous, but of course this person was silenced
immediately.
My guess is that there are many more people interested in owning a
radio like the 750 than the E1 and/or E1XM. If I want the sorts of
features sported by the E1, I'll buy a tabletop receiver. For a
portable, I want something lean and relatively simple.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
IMHO - If Eton Corp or anyone else were to "Re-Do"
the Eton E1 Radio in a more traditional Desk-Top Box
like the Drake SW8 : It would sell twice as good ~ RHF
http://www.mwcircle.org/images/resources/sw8_front.jpg
http://www.mwcircle.org/images/resou...comparison.jpg
.
Give up! There will be no more new HF hobbyist tabletop receivers.
There is no more audience. There is no more market. The world has
moved on.

Take another hit on the pipe and go to bed. Don't let the door hit you
in the fanny on the way out.


Door?

My guess is that there are many more people interested in owning a
radio like the 750 than the E1 and/or E1XM. If I want the sorts of
features sported by the E1, I'll buy a tabletop receiver. For a
portable, I want something lean and relatively simple.- Hide quoted text -


$300 is quite a bit for a radio that from all appearances seems not to
offer any performance-enhancing features beyond what you'd expect from
a DE1103, E5/G5 or a Kaito KA2100? Sure, it has the rotatable MW
antenna, but what else is it offering besides an alternate means of
charging your cellphone (not generally considered a compelling reason
to purchase a shortwave rig).

As for the tabletop HF receiver market, it's an area that's drying up,
as well. It's good that you enjoy your Ten-Tec RX-320D as you do. My
guess is that going forward, SWLers wanting a performance upgrade from
the under-$150 portables (and who want to purchase new) are going to
increasingly be compelled toward considering such computer controlled
radio options, as the premium portable and under-$2000 HF tabletop
receiver markets continue to dry up. Admittedly, there will be those
who will be drawn toward amateur rigs for SWLing.