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CLEAR CHANNEL PULLS THE PLUG ON SOME HD RADIO STATIONS
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"David Eduardo" wrote: "Telamon" wrote in message ... In article , craigm wrote: Telamon wrote: In article , "David Eduardo" wrote: "Telamon" wrote in message . .. Someone made a mistake. All the references to a radio on a chip on the Samsung site were analog. Looks like there is some confusion here as they do have chips for satellite and HD but not AMBCB and FMBCB. Your mistake is depending on a website for data only of interest to manufacturers, iBiquity and its shareholders. The chip is, obviously, digital as HD is digital. Your mistake is that they announce any semiconductor development on their web site. They may limit the amount of data for proprietary reasons but all projects are announced with some detail. Telemon, Why would a semiconductor company announce all their development projects on the internet? This would tell all their competitors what they are doing. Most companies do not disclose development activities until there is a competitive reason to do so. They are a publicly traded company and need to let their stockholders know what they are working on. Check the news here Shareholder data is released directly to shareholders, not by press releases on the web. All publicly traded companies release this kind of information in the media. There is no argument to be made here. It is in the best interest of the company to promote what it is producing. -- Telamon Ventura, California |
CLEAR CHANNEL PULLS THE PLUG ON SOME HD RADIO STATIONS
"Telamon" wrote in message ... All publicly traded companies release this kind of information in the media. There is no argument to be made here. It is in the best interest of the company to promote what it is producing. Products under development, non-competes, etc, are not pub lically announced. Most development is kept highly confidential. |
CLEAR CHANNEL PULLS THE PLUG ON SOME HD RADIO STATIONS
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craigm wrote: Telamon wrote: In article , craigm wrote: Telamon wrote: In article , "David Eduardo" wrote: "Telamon" wrote in message ... Someone made a mistake. All the references to a radio on a chip on the Samsung site were analog. Looks like there is some confusion here as they do have chips for satellite and HD but not AMBCB and FMBCB. Your mistake is depending on a website for data only of interest to manufacturers, iBiquity and its shareholders. The chip is, obviously, digital as HD is digital. Your mistake is that they announce any semiconductor development on their web site. They may limit the amount of data for proprietary reasons but all projects are announced with some detail. Telemon, Why would a semiconductor company announce all their development projects on the internet? This would tell all their competitors what they are doing. Most companies do not disclose development activities until there is a competitive reason to do so. They are a publicly traded company and need to let their stockholders know what they are working on. Check the news here http://www.samsung.com/us/business/semiconductor/index.html Really? Public companies actually tell their stockholder the details of their development plans? Yes. This happens every day. Not in any company I've worked for. If what you propose were true, what would the value of a confidentiality agreement be? Where have you worked that sales has not stated that the latest device will be available on some date? Sales is trying to create demand before the parts are made so they can sell them the day the parts can ship. How else do you think things work? You must have a pretty sheltered work life there buddy. Why not look at the link. Read any news service about the stock market. Just about any company any day is telling you what the next big development is going to be that they are working on. When I worked for a semiconductor company I was always busting my butt to make some deadline created in a press news release. It's no different where I work now since I still work in manufacturing. Believe me if Samsung is or has been working on a HD radio on a chip you would see a press release about it on their web site. Everything else is there like HD TV devices so why not an HD radio chip? Eduardo got you convinced it is a big secret? Well think again. -- Telamon Ventura, California |
CLEAR CHANNEL PULLS THE PLUG ON SOME HD RADIO STATIONS
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"David Eduardo" wrote: "craigm" wrote in message ... Telamon wrote: In article , "David Eduardo" wrote: "Telamon" wrote in message .. . Someone made a mistake. All the references to a radio on a chip on the Samsung site were analog. Looks like there is some confusion here as they do have chips for satellite and HD but not AMBCB and FMBCB. Your mistake is depending on a website for data only of interest to manufacturers, iBiquity and its shareholders. The chip is, obviously, digital as HD is digital. Your mistake is that they announce any semiconductor development on their web site. They may limit the amount of data for proprietary reasons but all projects are announced with some detail. Telemon, Why would a semiconductor company announce all their development projects on the internet? This would tell all their competitors what they are doing. Most companies do not disclose development activities until there is a competitive reason to do so. Likely there is a point in development, like just prior to shipping, when a development becomes public. Since the HD chip is only shipping in development quantities to radio manufacturers, the formal announcement may not have been made... but that is just a guess. Baloney. Sales is chomping at the bit to release the news to build demand well in advance of actual production. It's the same anywhere for any manufacturer. Blow your smoke someplace else. -- Telamon Ventura, California |
CLEAR CHANNEL PULLS THE PLUG ON SOME HD RADIO STATIONS
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"David Eduardo" wrote: "Telamon" wrote in message ... You don't understand this. NDA's have to do with proprietary information. The press releases are not going to declare how the part is made or details of the software/firmware or how it operates. Bull. On many occasions I have singed NDAs for research projects for radio stations... proprietary information. A number of years ago, when I had some developmental equipment in test at a station, I signed NDAs on its very existence. I have signed numerous NDAs for software I was involved in late Alpah and early Beta testing. NDAs are used whenever a person has information that would prove vompetitively damaging were it to become general knowledge. The press releases are a sales tool to build demand. In them they will tell you a product identifying number, the device family, what it is used for of course and a few details to create demand such as it does not need support components or it uses 1/2 the power of the current generation or its twice as fast and a date samples will be available and when full production will commence. Any Semiconductor company does this. Not necessarily in early development (when competitors could spot a trend and jump on a bandwagon) or if the development is shared technology the partner does not want released. There is no argument here. Go read the news and find out for yourself. Irrelevant comment. This has got to be the most full of crap posts you have made to date. You do not know what you are talking about. I explained my experience working for a semiconductor company so I know the score not that it matters as anyone can read promotional news from any semiconductor company out there in the world. You sure have your special brand of BS going there. Eduardo brand BS is piled higher and deeper than any other brand. What a funny guy. -- Telamon Ventura, California |
CLEAR CHANNEL PULLS THE PLUG ON SOME HD RADIO STATIONS
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"David Eduardo" wrote: "Telamon" wrote in message ... All publicly traded companies release this kind of information in the media. There is no argument to be made here. It is in the best interest of the company to promote what it is producing. Products under development, non-competes, etc, are not pub lically announced. Most development is kept highly confidential. BS. -- Telamon Ventura, California |
CLEAR CHANNEL PULLS THE PLUG ON SOME HD RADIO STATIONS
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"David Eduardo" wrote: "Telamon" wrote in message ... In article , "David Eduardo" wrote: "craigm" wrote in message ... Telamon wrote: In article , "David Eduardo" wrote: "Telamon" wrote in message m.. . Someone made a mistake. All the references to a radio on a chip on the Samsung site were analog. Looks like there is some confusion here as they do have chips for satellite and HD but not AMBCB and FMBCB. Your mistake is depending on a website for data only of interest to manufacturers, iBiquity and its shareholders. The chip is, obviously, digital as HD is digital. Your mistake is that they announce any semiconductor development on their web site. They may limit the amount of data for proprietary reasons but all projects are announced with some detail. Telemon, Why would a semiconductor company announce all their development projects on the internet? This would tell all their competitors what they are doing. Most companies do not disclose development activities until there is a competitive reason to do so. Likely there is a point in development, like just prior to shipping, when a development becomes public. Since the HD chip is only shipping in development quantities to radio manufacturers, the formal announcement may not have been made... but that is just a guess. Baloney. Sales is chomping at the bit to release the news to build demand well in advance of actual production. It's the same anywhere for any manufacturer. Blow your smoke someplace else. There are no radios announced yet. The public has no interest in chips, only in devices. The work now is helping manufacturers design receivers of all kinds. The publicity phase begins when there are products. BS. -- Telamon Ventura, California |
CLEAR CHANNEL PULLS THE PLUG ON SOME HD RADIO STATIONS
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"David Eduardo" wrote: "Telamon" wrote in message ... In article , RHF wrote: On Feb 9, 4:28 pm, Telamon wrote: In article , "David Eduardo" wrote: "Telamon" wrote in message om. .. Someone made a mistake. All the references to a radio on a chip on the Samsung site were analog. Looks like there is some confusion here as they do have chips for satellite and HD but not AMBCB and FMBCB. Your mistake is depending on a website for data only of interest to manufacturers, iBiquity and its shareholders. The chip is, obviously, digital as HD is digital. Your mistake is that they announce any semiconductor development on their web site. They may limit the amount of data for proprietary reasons but all projects are announced with some detail. -- Telamon Ventura, California Telamon, Not -if- iBiquity Digital Corp entered into an "NDA" with Samsung http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-disclosure_agreement that allowed iBiquity to manage the public release of the Chips Existance and Development. Then when iBiquity 'felt' that the Chip was Ready to be Released; and that the Marketing and the News of the Chip would have a Positive Impact on the Promotion of "HD" Radio and the Sales of "HD" Radios. iBiquity would do it jointly with Samsung. we were not here and we did not talk ~ RHF Please explain your logic for the motivation of either Samsung or IBiquity to keep this development a secret. There are, first, no radios designed yet with the chip. The work at this stage is to develop products or integrate the chip onto existing models. BS. -- Telamon Ventura, California |
CLEAR CHANNEL PULLS THE PLUG ON SOME HD RADIO STATIONS
"Telamon" wrote in message ... This has got to be the most full of crap posts you have made to date. You do not know what you are talking about. I explained my experience working for a semiconductor company so I know the score not that it matters as anyone can read promotional news from any semiconductor company out there in the world. You sure have your special brand of BS going there. Eduardo brand BS is piled higher and deeper than any other brand. What a funny guy. The difference is that the owners of iBiquity are made up in a large part of the large broadcasters. This is why Stone, Mason and Smulyan 12 days ago raved about the chip and the potential explosion of HD. I work in radio, but I know each company in the business does business in slightly different ways; same applies for semiconductor companies. What went on at yours, in the past (you used past tense) is not necessarily what Samsung in partnership with iBiquity does today. Different company, different point in time. And Samsung likes to think of itself as a consumer electronics company that is vertically integrated, not a semiconductor company. |
CLEAR CHANNEL PULLS THE PLUG ON SOME HD RADIO STATIONS
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"David Eduardo" wrote: "Telamon" wrote in message ... This has got to be the most full of crap posts you have made to date. You do not know what you are talking about. I explained my experience working for a semiconductor company so I know the score not that it matters as anyone can read promotional news from any semiconductor company out there in the world. You sure have your special brand of BS going there. Eduardo brand BS is piled higher and deeper than any other brand. What a funny guy. The difference is that the owners of iBiquity are made up in a large part of the large broadcasters. This is why Stone, Mason and Smulyan 12 days ago raved about the chip and the potential explosion of HD. They spoke of the "chip" in such vague terms that it is clear it does not exist. They spoke of the "chip" in future terms. I work in radio, but I know each company in the business does business in slightly different ways; same applies for semiconductor companies. What went on at yours, in the past (you used past tense) is not necessarily what Samsung in partnership with iBiquity does today. Different company, different point in time. And Samsung likes to think of itself as a consumer electronics company that is vertically integrated, not a semiconductor company. Nothing special about the semiconductor company I used to work for. They all have in the past and currently operate the same way in this regard for the same business reasons. -- Telamon Ventura, California |
CLEAR CHANNEL PULLS THE PLUG ON SOME HD RADIO STATIONS
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craigm wrote: Telamon wrote: In article , craigm wrote: Telamon wrote: In article , craigm wrote: Telamon wrote: In article , "David Eduardo" wrote: "Telamon" wrote in message ... Someone made a mistake. All the references to a radio on a chip on the Samsung site were analog. Looks like there is some confusion here as they do have chips for satellite and HD but not AMBCB and FMBCB. Your mistake is depending on a website for data only of interest to manufacturers, iBiquity and its shareholders. The chip is, obviously, digital as HD is digital. Your mistake is that they announce any semiconductor development on their web site. They may limit the amount of data for proprietary reasons but all projects are announced with some detail. Telemon, Why would a semiconductor company announce all their development projects on the internet? This would tell all their competitors what they are doing. Most companies do not disclose development activities until there is a competitive reason to do so. They are a publicly traded company and need to let their stockholders know what they are working on. Check the news here http://www.samsung.com/us/business/semiconductor/index.html Really? Public companies actually tell their stockholder the details of their development plans? Yes. This happens every day. Not in any company I've worked for. If what you propose were true, what would the value of a confidentiality agreement be? Where have you worked that sales has not stated that the latest device will be available on some date? Sales is trying to create demand before the parts are made so they can sell them the day the parts can ship. How else do you think things work? You must have a pretty sheltered work life there buddy. Why not look at the link. Read any news service about the stock market. Just about any company any day is telling you what the next big development is going to be that they are working on. When I worked for a semiconductor company I was always busting my butt to make some deadline created in a press news release. It's no different where I work now since I still work in manufacturing. Believe me if Samsung is or has been working on a HD radio on a chip you would see a press release about it on their web site. Everything else is there like HD TV devices so why not an HD radio chip? Eduardo got you convinced it is a big secret? Well think again. OK, provide links to all the products your company has in development. It should be easy if this is all public information. I'm not pointing out the company I work for on Usenet. Any company out there makes forward looking statements in press releases followed by all the disclamers. Go read any business news outlet about any manufacturing company. Go read the link to the Samsung web site I posted or any other semiconductor maker. -- Telamon Ventura, California |
CLEAR CHANNEL PULLS THE PLUG ON SOME HD RADIO STATIONS
Telamon wrote:
In article , craigm wrote: Telamon wrote: In article , craigm wrote: Telamon wrote: In article , "David Eduardo" wrote: "Telamon" wrote in message ... Someone made a mistake. All the references to a radio on a chip on the Samsung site were analog. Looks like there is some confusion here as they do have chips for satellite and HD but not AMBCB and FMBCB. Your mistake is depending on a website for data only of interest to manufacturers, iBiquity and its shareholders. The chip is, obviously, digital as HD is digital. Your mistake is that they announce any semiconductor development on their web site. They may limit the amount of data for proprietary reasons but all projects are announced with some detail. Telemon, Why would a semiconductor company announce all their development projects on the internet? This would tell all their competitors what they are doing. Most companies do not disclose development activities until there is a competitive reason to do so. They are a publicly traded company and need to let their stockholders know what they are working on. Check the news here http://www.samsung.com/us/business/semiconductor/index.html Really? Public companies actually tell their stockholder the details of their development plans? Yes. This happens every day. Not in any company I've worked for. If what you propose were true, what would the value of a confidentiality agreement be? Where have you worked that sales has not stated that the latest device will be available on some date? Sales is trying to create demand before the parts are made so they can sell them the day the parts can ship. How else do you think things work? You must have a pretty sheltered work life there buddy. Why not look at the link. Read any news service about the stock market. Just about any company any day is telling you what the next big development is going to be that they are working on. When I worked for a semiconductor company I was always busting my butt to make some deadline created in a press news release. It's no different where I work now since I still work in manufacturing. Believe me if Samsung is or has been working on a HD radio on a chip you would see a press release about it on their web site. Everything else is there like HD TV devices so why not an HD radio chip? Eduardo got you convinced it is a big secret? Well think again. OK, provide links to all the products your company has in development. It should be easy if this is all public information. |
CLEAR CHANNEL PULLS THE PLUG ON SOME HD RADIO STATIONS
"Telamon" wrote in message ... OK, provide links to all the products your company has in development. It should be easy if this is all public information. I'm not pointing out the company I work for on Usenet. Any company out there makes forward looking statements in press releases followed by all the disclamers. Go read any business news outlet about any manufacturing company. Go read the link to the Samsung web site I posted or any other semiconductor maker. I'd remind you that the CEO's or COO's of several of the largest radio companies in the US made "forward looking" statements two weeks ago at the SCBA conference; such statements come under considerable scrutiny by regulatory agencies if they are not based on factual data. |
CLEAR CHANNEL PULLS THE PLUG ON SOME HD RADIO STATIONS
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"David Eduardo" wrote: "Telamon" wrote in message ... OK, provide links to all the products your company has in development. It should be easy if this is all public information. I'm not pointing out the company I work for on Usenet. Any company out there makes forward looking statements in press releases followed by all the disclamers. Go read any business news outlet about any manufacturing company. Go read the link to the Samsung web site I posted or any other semiconductor maker. I'd remind you that the CEO's or COO's of several of the largest radio companies in the US made "forward looking" statements two weeks ago at the SCBA conference; such statements come under considerable scrutiny by regulatory agencies if they are not based on factual data. Hence all the disclaimers that follow. -- Telamon Ventura, California |
CLEAR CHANNEL PULLS THE PLUG ON SOME HD RADIO STATIONS
On Feb 9, 11:22 pm, Telamon
wrote: In article , RHF wrote: On Feb 9, 4:28 pm, Telamon wrote: In article , "David Eduardo" wrote: "Telamon" wrote in message . .. Someone made a mistake. All the references to a radio on a chip on the Samsung site were analog. Looks like there is some confusion here as they do have chips for satellite and HD but not AMBCB and FMBCB. Your mistake is depending on a website for data only of interest to manufacturers, iBiquity and its shareholders. The chip is, obviously, digital as HD is digital. Your mistake is that they announce any semiconductor development on their web site. They may limit the amount of data for proprietary reasons but all projects are announced with some detail. -- Telamon Ventura, California Telamon, Not -if- iBiquity Digital Corp entered into an "NDA" with Samsung http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-disclosure_agreement that allowed iBiquity to manage the public release of the Chips Existance and Development. Then when iBiquity 'felt' that the Chip was Ready to be Released; and that the Marketing and the News of the Chip would have a Positive Impact on the Promotion of "HD" Radio and the Sales of "HD" Radios. iBiquity would do it jointly with Samsung. we were not here and we did not talk ~ RHF Please explain your logic for the motivation of either Samsung or IBiquity to keep this development a secret. -- Telamon Ventura, California Trust me. If there's a new AM/FM HD radio chip pending at Samsung or any other place on earth iBiquity would be touting it from the roof tops. They need any positive press they can get because to-date there hasn't been much to report. As I said before - no demand, no HD. Eddie, you're like the Titantic, you're playing music while the ship is sinklng. jw |
CLEAR CHANNEL PULLS THE PLUG ON SOME HD RADIO STATIONS
On Feb 9, 11:22 pm, Telamon
wrote: In article , RHF wrote: On Feb 9, 4:28 pm, Telamon wrote: In article , "David Eduardo" wrote: "Telamon" wrote in message . .. Someone made a mistake. All the references to a radio on a chip on the Samsung site were analog. Looks like there is some confusion here as they do have chips for satellite and HD but not AMBCB and FMBCB. Your mistake is depending on a website for data only of interest to manufacturers, iBiquity and its shareholders. The chip is, obviously, digital as HD is digital. Your mistake is that they announce any semiconductor development on their web site. They may limit the amount of data for proprietary reasons but all projects are announced with some detail. -- Telamon Ventura, California Telamon, Not -if- iBiquity Digital Corp entered into an "NDA" with Samsung http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-disclosure_agreement that allowed iBiquity to manage the public release of the Chips Existance and Development. Then when iBiquity 'felt' that the Chip was Ready to be Released; and that the Marketing and the News of the Chip would have a Positive Impact on the Promotion of "HD" Radio and the Sales of "HD" Radios. iBiquity would do it jointly with Samsung. we were not here and we did not talk ~ RHF Please explain your logic for the motivation of either Samsung or IBiquity to keep this development a secret. -- Telamon Ventura, California Trust me. If there's a new AM/FM HD radio chip pending at Samsung or any other place on earth iBiquity would be touting it from the roof tops. They need any positive press they can get because to-date there hasn't been much to report. As I said before - no demand, no HD. Eddie, you're like the Titantic, you're playing music while the ship is sinklng. jw |
CLEAR CHANNEL PULLS THE PLUG ON SOME HD RADIO STATIONS
craigm wrote:
David wrote: craigm wrote: David wrote: David Eduardo wrote: "David" wrote in message ... There's no reason for them to be included in your so called "ratings" which measure nothing but a dying medium's last gasp. Shoutcast (and Icecast, Live 365, etc.) are where the top dollar demos are going for good music radio and NPR/CommunityRadio. There is no reason to subject one's self to the torture that is commercial radio in the 21st century. It is painful to listen to sonically (and HD sounds worse on AM) and only a complete loser would voluntarily absorb the content. Streams, satellite, HD2 channels and analog or HD terrestrial stations are all included in the Arbitron radio ratings. Additionally, there are audits of streaming "stations" and, as I said, the listening level of Shoutcast across the US would not qualify all its channels combined for the minimum reporting standard for radio ratings. In other words, think of the worst radio station in your market, and it has as many or more listeners than Live 365 or Shoutcast. live365 I don't think you grasp the concept. https://www.sky.fm/pro/order.php If you go to the site, it says skyfm is currently serving 17117 users. That is spread across 30 stations. If you go to shoutcast, you'll see that many of the feeds support 1000 or fewer connections. Combine that with the low bitrates offered for many connections and I fail to see how they seriously compete with a single station that may have 10,000+ listeners. You totally don't get it. There are thousands of web radio stations. They are growing and you are bleeding. You were partially right a few weeks ago; talk is going to FM. The music is going to the web. You don't even know who you are replying to. I am replying to the twooze of youze, apparently. But moreso to the group as well so be it. |
CLEAR CHANNEL PULLS THE PLUG ON SOME HD RADIO STATIONS
Rfburns wrote:
On Feb 9, 11:22 pm, Telamon wrote: In article , RHF wrote: On Feb 9, 4:28 pm, Telamon wrote: In article , "David Eduardo" wrote: "Telamon" wrote in message . .. Someone made a mistake. All the references to a radio on a chip on the Samsung site were analog. Looks like there is some confusion here as they do have chips for satellite and HD but not AMBCB and FMBCB. Your mistake is depending on a website for data only of interest to manufacturers, iBiquity and its shareholders. The chip is, obviously, digital as HD is digital. Your mistake is that they announce any semiconductor development on their web site. They may limit the amount of data for proprietary reasons but all projects are announced with some detail. -- Telamon Ventura, California Telamon, Not -if- iBiquity Digital Corp entered into an "NDA" with Samsung http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-disclosure_agreement that allowed iBiquity to manage the public release of the Chips Existance and Development. Then when iBiquity 'felt' that the Chip was Ready to be Released; and that the Marketing and the News of the Chip would have a Positive Impact on the Promotion of "HD" Radio and the Sales of "HD" Radios. iBiquity would do it jointly with Samsung. we were not here and we did not talk ~ RHF Please explain your logic for the motivation of either Samsung or IBiquity to keep this development a secret. -- Telamon Ventura, California Trust me. If there's a new AM/FM HD radio chip pending at Samsung or any other place on earth iBiquity would be touting it from the roof tops. They need any positive press they can get because to-date there hasn't been much to report. As I said before - no demand, no HD. Eddie, you're like the Titantic, you're playing music while the ship is sinklng. jw What's the current draw Kenneth? |
CLEAR CHANNEL PULLS THE PLUG ON SOME HD RADIO STATIONS
"Telamon" wrote in message ... In article , "David Eduardo" wrote: "Telamon" wrote in message ... OK, provide links to all the products your company has in development. It should be easy if this is all public information. I'm not pointing out the company I work for on Usenet. Any company out there makes forward looking statements in press releases followed by all the disclamers. Go read any business news outlet about any manufacturing company. Go read the link to the Samsung web site I posted or any other semiconductor maker. I'd remind you that the CEO's or COO's of several of the largest radio companies in the US made "forward looking" statements two weeks ago at the SCBA conference; such statements come under considerable scrutiny by regulatory agencies if they are not based on factual data. Hence all the disclaimers that follow. There were no disclaimers of the type you refer to. |
CLEAR CHANNEL PULLS THE PLUG ON SOME HD RADIO STATIONS
"Rfburns" wrote in message ... On Feb 9, 11:22 pm, Telamon Trust me. If there's a new AM/FM HD radio chip pending at Samsung or any other place on earth iBiquity would be touting it from the roof tops. They need any positive press they can get because to-date there hasn't been much to report. As I said before - no demand, no HD. The chip was most recently touted by some of iBiquity's investors, via the heads of major broadcast groups at the SCBA conference in LA two weeks ago Tuesday. It's written up in Radio Ink, with clear references to the coming "HD explosion" based on the new chip. Eddie, you're like the Titantic, you're playing music while the ship is sinklng. Absurd. |
CLEAR CHANNEL PULLS THE PLUG ON SOME HD RADIO STATIONS
David Eduardo wrote: "Rfburns" wrote in message ... On Feb 9, 11:22 pm, Telamon Trust me. If there's a new AM/FM HD radio chip pending at Samsung or any other place on earth iBiquity would be touting it from the roof tops. They need any positive press they can get because to-date there hasn't been much to report. As I said before - no demand, no HD. The chip was most recently touted by some of iBiquity's investors, via the heads of major broadcast groups at the SCBA conference in LA two weeks ago Tuesday. It's written up in Radio Ink, with clear references to the coming "HD explosion" based on the new chip. Eddie, you're like the Titantic, you're playing music while the ship is sinklng. Absurd. Absurd? Yes indeed, like your years of lies and obfuscations! |
CLEAR CHANNEL PULLS THE PLUG ON SOME HD RADIO STATIONS
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"David Eduardo" wrote: "Telamon" wrote in message ... In article , "David Eduardo" wrote: "Telamon" wrote in message . .. OK, provide links to all the products your company has in development. It should be easy if this is all public information. I'm not pointing out the company I work for on Usenet. Any company out there makes forward looking statements in press releases followed by all the disclamers. Go read any business news outlet about any manufacturing company. Go read the link to the Samsung web site I posted or any other semiconductor maker. I'd remind you that the CEO's or COO's of several of the largest radio companies in the US made "forward looking" statements two weeks ago at the SCBA conference; such statements come under considerable scrutiny by regulatory agencies if they are not based on factual data. Hence all the disclaimers that follow. There were no disclaimers of the type you refer to. If there was nothing to disclaim then it was just vague hot air. I read the statements you refer to and what was said was not defined in any way so disclaimers were not necessary. Press releases that do make real promises about some product always have disclaimers. -- Telamon Ventura, California |
CLEAR CHANNEL PULLS THE PLUG ON SOME HD RADIO STATIONS
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"David Eduardo" wrote: "Rfburns" wrote in message ... On Feb 9, 11:22 pm, Telamon Trust me. If there's a new AM/FM HD radio chip pending at Samsung or any other place on earth iBiquity would be touting it from the roof tops. They need any positive press they can get because to-date there hasn't been much to report. As I said before - no demand, no HD. The chip was most recently touted by some of iBiquity's investors, via the heads of major broadcast groups at the SCBA conference in LA two weeks ago Tuesday. It's written up in Radio Ink, with clear references to the coming "HD explosion" based on the new chip. Eddie, you're like the Titantic, you're playing music while the ship is sinklng. Absurd. The only thing Absurd is your posts to the contrary. -- Telamon Ventura, California |
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On Feb 10, 12:20*am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
I work in radio, Why should we believe this, given all the others lies you've told here? |
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On Feb 10, 12:23*pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Rfburns" wrote in message ... On Feb 9, 11:22 pm, Telamon Trust me. If there's a new *AM/FM HD radio chip pending at Samsung or any other place on earth iBiquity would be touting it from the roof tops. *They need any positive press they can get because to-date there hasn't been much to report. *As I said before - no demand, no HD. The chip was most recently touted by some of iBiquity's investors, via the heads of major broadcast groups at the SCBA conference in LA two weeks ago Tuesday. It's written up in Radio Ink, with clear references to the coming "HD explosion" based on the new chip. Expect something more along the linds of an "HD fart". |
CLEAR CHANNEL PULLS THE PLUG ON SOME HD RADIO STATIONS
On Feb 9, 8:16*pm, Telamon
wrote: In article , *craigm wrote: Telamon wrote: In article , *craigm wrote: Telamon wrote: In article , *"David Eduardo" wrote: "Telamon" wrote in message ... Someone made a mistake. All the references to a radio on a chip on the Samsung site were analog. Looks like there is some confusion here as they do have chips for satellite and HD but not AMBCB and FMBCB. Your mistake is depending on a website for data only of interest to manufacturers, iBiquity and its shareholders. The chip is, obviously, digital as HD is digital. Your mistake is that they announce any semiconductor development on their web site. They may limit the amount of data for proprietary reasons but all projects are announced with some detail. Telemon, Why would a semiconductor company announce all their development projects on the internet? This would tell all their competitors what they are doing. Most companies do not disclose development activities until there is a competitive reason to do so. They are a publicly traded company and need to let their stockholders know what they are working on. Check the news here http://www.samsung.com/us/business/semiconductor/index.html Really? Public companies actually tell their stockholder the details of their development plans? Yes. This happens every day. Not in any company I've worked for. If what you propose were true, what would the value of a confidentiality agreement be? Where have you worked that sales has not stated that the latest device will be available on some date? Sales is trying to create demand before the parts are made so they can sell them the day the parts can ship. How else do you think things work? You must have a pretty sheltered work life there buddy. Why not look at the link. Read any news service about the stock market. Just about any company any day is telling you what the next big development is going to be that they are working on. When I worked for a semiconductor company I was always busting my butt to make some deadline created in a press news release. It's no different where I work now since I still work in manufacturing. Believe me if Samsung is or has been working on a HD radio on a chip you would see a press release about it on their web site. Everything else is there like HD TV devices so why not an HD radio chip? Eduardo got you convinced it is a big secret? Well think again. -- Telamon Ventura, California- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Dang Telamon - You KNOW EVERYTHING ! -while- the rest of us mere mortals seem to know jack-****. Please Do Anoint Us With More of Your Infinite Wisdom ~ RHF |
CLEAR CHANNEL PULLS THE PLUG ON SOME HD RADIO STATIONS
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, RHF wrote: On Feb 9, 8:16*pm, Telamon wrote: In article , *craigm wrote: Telamon wrote: In article , *craigm wrote: Telamon wrote: In article , *"David Eduardo" wrote: "Telamon" wrote in message . .. Someone made a mistake. All the references to a radio on a chip on the Samsung site were analog. Looks like there is some confusion here as they do have chips for satellite and HD but not AMBCB and FMBCB. Your mistake is depending on a website for data only of interest to manufacturers, iBiquity and its shareholders. The chip is, obviously, digital as HD is digital. Your mistake is that they announce any semiconductor development on their web site. They may limit the amount of data for proprietary reasons but all projects are announced with some detail. Telemon, Why would a semiconductor company announce all their development projects on the internet? This would tell all their competitors what they are doing. Most companies do not disclose development activities until there is a competitive reason to do so. They are a publicly traded company and need to let their stockholders know what they are working on. Check the news here http://www.samsung.com/us/business/semiconductor/index.html Really? Public companies actually tell their stockholder the details of their development plans? Yes. This happens every day. Not in any company I've worked for. If what you propose were true, what would the value of a confidentiality agreement be? Where have you worked that sales has not stated that the latest device will be available on some date? Sales is trying to create demand before the parts are made so they can sell them the day the parts can ship. How else do you think things work? You must have a pretty sheltered work life there buddy. Why not look at the link. Read any news service about the stock market. Just about any company any day is telling you what the next big development is going to be that they are working on. When I worked for a semiconductor company I was always busting my butt to make some deadline created in a press news release. It's no different where I work now since I still work in manufacturing. Believe me if Samsung is or has been working on a HD radio on a chip you would see a press release about it on their web site. Everything else is there like HD TV devices so why not an HD radio chip? Eduardo got you convinced it is a big secret? Well think again. Dang Telamon - You KNOW EVERYTHING ! -while- the rest of us mere mortals seem to know jack-****. Please Do Anoint Us With More of Your Infinite Wisdom ~ RHF Being a clueless individual I'm sure it seems that way to you but be assured that I do not know everything. -- Telamon Ventura, California |
CLEAR CHANNEL PULLS THE PLUG ON SOME HD RADIO STATIONS
Steve wrote: On Feb 10, 12:20 am, "David Eduardo" wrote: I work in radio, Why should we believe this, given all the others lies you've told here? And, he's certainly told some whoppers over the years, and not just here. |
CLEAR CHANNEL PULLS THE PLUG ON SOME HD RADIO STATIONS
Steve wrote:
On Feb 10, 12:20 am, "David Eduardo" wrote: I work in radio, Why should we believe this, given all the others lies you've told here? It depends on how you define "work" and "radio". |
CLEAR CHANNEL PULLS THE PLUG ON SOME HD RADIO STATIONS
"Telamon" wrote in message ... There were no disclaimers of the type you refer to. If there was nothing to disclaim then it was just vague hot air. I read the statements you refer to and what was said was not defined in any way so disclaimers were not necessary. Press releases that do make real promises about some product always have disclaimers. The seminar, with the heads of 5 of the top 10 broadcasting companies, was webcast. The information on HD was more extensive than the report; all such executives are cognizant of forward looking statements. |
CLEAR CHANNEL PULLS THE PLUG ON SOME HD RADIO STATIONS
"Steve" wrote in message ... On Feb 10, 12:20 am, "David Eduardo" wrote: I work in radio, Why should we believe this, given all the others lies you've told here? I suppose the pictures on the NAB website of me speaking at NAB conventions means the NAB is nuts? |
CLEAR CHANNEL PULLS THE PLUG ON SOME HD RADIO STATIONS
David Eduardo wrote:
"Steve" wrote in message ... On Feb 10, 12:20 am, "David Eduardo" wrote: I work in radio, Why should we believe this, given all the others lies you've told here? I suppose the pictures on the NAB website of me speaking at NAB conventions means the NAB is nuts? Well, THAT was established long ago. But it had nothing to do with you. |
CLEAR CHANNEL PULLS THE PLUG ON SOME HD RADIO STATIONS
David Eduardo wrote: "Steve" wrote in message ... On Feb 10, 12:20 am, "David Eduardo" wrote: I work in radio, Why should we believe this, given all the others lies you've told here? I suppose the pictures on the NAB website of me speaking at NAB conventions means the NAB is nuts? Any group that would allow you to speak before it has to be nuts. |
CLEAR CHANNEL PULLS THE PLUG ON SOME HD RADIO STATIONS
dxAce wrote: David Eduardo wrote: "Steve" wrote in message ... On Feb 10, 12:20 am, "David Eduardo" wrote: I work in radio, Why should we believe this, given all the others lies you've told here? I suppose the pictures on the NAB website of me speaking at NAB conventions means the NAB is nuts? Any group that would allow you to speak before it has to be nuts. Then again, NAB could mean "National Association of Bull****ters" in which case it might be appropriate that you address them. |
CLEAR CHANNEL PULLS THE PLUG ON SOME HD RADIO STATIONS
dxAcehole, Supreme Commander United Michigan Militias (S.C.U.M.M.) wrote:
Any group that would allow you to speak before it has to be nuts. Are these people nuts? YOU speak TO and FOR them don't you? Do they even KNOW you are claiming to be their leader? http://www.michiganmilitia.com/ mike |
CLEAR CHANNEL PULLS THE PLUG ON SOME HD RADIO STATIONS
dxAce wrote:
Absurd? Yes indeed, like your years of lies and obfuscations! Will you be posting proof of your shortwave reception verifications? Those hundreds of QSL cards would be really nice to see. Is there a problem with showing these cards to the rest of us? This is the third or fourth time you've been asked. Why the avoidance? Are you hiding something? mike |
CLEAR CHANNEL PULLS THE PLUG ON SOME HD RADIO STATIONS
On Feb 11, 3:38*pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Steve" wrote in message ... On Feb 10, 12:20 am, "David Eduardo" wrote: I work in radio, Why should we believe this, given all the others lies you've told here? I suppose the pictures on the NAB website of me speaking at NAB conventions means the NAB is nuts? So you know how to use photoshop. Big deal. Surely you can do better than this, Tardo. You're slipping in your old age. |
CLEAR CHANNEL PULLS THE PLUG ON SOME HD RADIO STATIONS
I'm a degenerate Canuck II wrote: dxAce wrote: Absurd? Yes indeed, like your years of lies and obfuscations! Will you be posting proof of your shortwave reception verifications? Those hundreds of QSL cards would be really nice to see. Then haul your monkey butt down here and look at them. Ask 'Eduardo' if he'd extend an invitation to view his QSL's.. er, 'veries' and see just how fast he skates away. Is there a problem with showing these cards to the rest of us? No, I've always been more than happy to have folks drop by, even dumbass Canucks such as yourself. This is the third or fourth time you've been asked. Why the avoidance? Are you hiding something? Well one thing I never hide is my dislike for dumbass, mentally ill Canucks! |
CLEAR CHANNEL PULLS THE PLUG ON SOME HD RADIO STATIONS
"D Peter Maus" wrote in message ... David Eduardo wrote: "Steve" wrote in message ... On Feb 10, 12:20 am, "David Eduardo" wrote: I work in radio, Why should we believe this, given all the others lies you've told here? I suppose the pictures on the NAB website of me speaking at NAB conventions means the NAB is nuts? Well, THAT was established long ago. But it had nothing to do with you. If it was me, there, I would assume it had at least a little to do with me. |
CLEAR CHANNEL PULLS THE PLUG ON SOME HD RADIO STATIONS
"dxAce" wrote in message ... David Eduardo wrote: "Steve" wrote in message ... On Feb 10, 12:20 am, "David Eduardo" wrote: I work in radio, Why should we believe this, given all the others lies you've told here? I suppose the pictures on the NAB website of me speaking at NAB conventions means the NAB is nuts? Any group that would allow you to speak before it has to be nuts. Terrific. DXass has taken on 10,000 radio stations and called their owners and managers nuts. |
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