CLEAR CHANNEL PULLS THE PLUG ON SOME HD RADIO STATIONS
 

"CLEAR CHANNEL PULLS THE PLUG ON SOME HD RADIO STATIONS"

"After conducting a survey of 340 HD2 stations to determine their
programming needs, the folks at Clear Channel have dumped a number of
their HD 'Format Lab' stations due to a lack of demand."

http://talentfilter.blogspot.com/200...n-some-hd.html

Yupper - there she goes!

CLEAR CHANNEL PULLS THE PLUG ON SOME HD RADIO STATIONS
 

On Feb 7, 6:38 am, IBOCcrock wrote:
"CLEAR CHANNEL PULLS THE PLUG ON SOME HD RADIO STATIONS"

"After conducting a survey of 340 HD2 stations to determine their
programming needs, the folks at Clear Channel have dumped a number of
their HD 'Format Lab' stations due to a lack of demand."

http://talentfilter.blogspot.com/200...pulls-plug-on-...

Yupper - there she goes!


- You can still buy one here. . .

http://shop.npr.org/category/show/32...spot&mpe_id=c1

CLEAR CHANNEL PULLS THE PLUG ON SOME HD RADIO STATIONS
 

On Feb 7, 6:52 am, wrote:
On Feb 7, 6:38 am, IBOCcrock wrote:

"CLEAR CHANNEL PULLS THE PLUG ON SOME HD RADIO STATIONS"

"After conducting a survey of 340 HD2 stations to determine their
programming needs, the folks at Clear Channel have dumped a number of
their HD 'Format Lab' stations due to a lack of demand."

http://talentfilter.blogspot.com/200...pulls-plug-on-...

Yupper - there she goes!

- You can still buy one here. . .

http://shop.npr.org/category/show/32...spot&mpe_id=c1

"DEAD AIR: Radio's great leap forward stalling in the Valley"

"KMBH, the National Public Radio affiliate based in Harlingen,
switched to HD this year, but the change did not boost its
inconsistent analog signal in the upper Valley. Monsignor Pedro
Briseño, the manager of the station and its television affiliate, did
not return multiple calls and an e-mail requesting comment on the
station's shift. A fundraising campaign on the station asked local
listeners to contribute to the upgrade earlier this year, touting the
change as a service to listeners that would improve their experience.
The station's business manager said she could not reveal the cost of
the upgrade, saying all media requests have to be routed to Briseño. A
public information request faxed to the station Monday evening has not
yet received a response. Organizations that receive government funding
are subject to state and federal open records laws, but have seven
business days to respond to information requests."

http://www.themonitor.com/news/radio...gital_new.html

"HD Radio: Will More Awareness Translate To Sales?"

"Unfortunately, Ibiquity does not: Yes, they have gotten many radio
stations to make the $100,000 or so investment required to add HD
Radio broadcasting, but what the leave out of their PR spin is that
MANY of these stations were Public Radio/NPR stations that had their
equipment paid for by special funding from Congress. So tell me,
senior executives from, say, Sony, Mitsubishi, Best Buy, etc.: How do
you feel about Ibiquity''s lobbyists getting US taxpayers to pick up
the tab for many of their transmitter sales? Wouldn''t it be great if
your lobbyists could get Congress to mandate that US taxpayers be
required to buy your products, too? Do you even slightly care?
Ibiquity will take their money and run, and HD Radio will join a long
list of failed formats, like Dolby FM radio, Elcassete, mini disk (in
the US), etc."

http://tinyurl.com/37pe7t

"HD Radio: Fun with Math"

"I think it is fair to say that the audiophile community, those people
who take their FM seriously, is dead set AGAINST HDRadio. Not only do
most people never intend to buy a radio, unless as a plaything for
early adopters and collectors, but are aghast at the FCC for even
allowing IBOC to thrash up the FM bandwidth. Plus, people with enough
technical savvy to read the specs are insulted by the false claims of
'CD sound quality' or even 'near-CD sound quality'. These are
transparent marketing hype, beyond mean puffery. Sorry, but HDRadio
has sworn enemies. This goes beyond just business but has political
reprecussions for FCC and for Congress. This has the whiff of
political scandal - and I'm a rock-ribbed Republican! The Corporation
for Public Broadcasting is especially vulnerable. My advice for any
businessman is to avoid any association with HDRadio."

http://www.hear2.com/2006/06/hd_radio_fun_wi.html

CLEAR CHANNEL PULLS THE PLUG ON SOME HD RADIO STATIONS
 

"IBOCcrock" wrote in message
...
"CLEAR CHANNEL PULLS THE PLUG ON SOME HD RADIO STATIONS"

"After conducting a survey of 340 HD2 stations to determine their
programming needs, the folks at Clear Channel have dumped a number of
their HD 'Format Lab' stations due to a lack of demand."

http://talentfilter.blogspot.com/200...n-some-hd.html

Yupper - there she goes!

Actually, no stations ceased HD broadcasting; a few have had different
formats put on the HD2 channels based on listener response.

There are no "Format Lab" stations.

The "Format Lab" is a development center in San Antonio where different
concepts are streamed and the ones with the most hits and longest listening
spans get put on actual radio stations. The ones that don't attract interest
are nuked and other ideas tried; it's an ongoing process. The idea is to
create new content for HD that has not been found on radio up till now.

National Public Radio (NPR) -presents- HD Radio(tm)
 

On Feb 7, 3:52 am, wrote:
On Feb 7, 6:38 am, IBOCcrock wrote:

"CLEAR CHANNEL PULLS THE PLUG ON SOME HD RADIO STATIONS"

"After conducting a survey of 340 HD2 stations to determine their
programming needs, the folks at Clear Channel have dumped a number of
their HD 'Format Lab' stations due to a lack of demand."

http://talentfilter.blogspot.com/200...pulls-plug-on-...

Yupper - there she goes!
-
- You can still buy one here. . .
-
- http://shop.npr.org/category/show/32...spot&mpe_id=c1

McD6 - Yes "HD" Radio are still available and just may be
around for many many years to come . . .

National Public Radio (NPR) -presents- HD Radio(tm)
http://groups.google.com/group/hd-ra...2c7167d0f49751

The National {Nation-Wide} Public Radio (NPR) Store :
[ NPR Every-Where ]
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Dramatically Better Digital Sound Quality, and It's FREE !
If your Local NPR FM Radio Station is broadcasting in
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HD Radio(tm) - What Is It ?
http://www.npr.org/everywhere/digital/description.html
Learn How HD Radio Broadcasting is Writing 'The Future'
of Digital Radio Technology.

HD Radio(tm) - How To Listen
http://www.npr.org/everywhere/digital/howto.html
NPR Multi-Casting with the New HD Radio Technology
doesn't have to be hard - let us Walk-You-Through your
own Digital Radio Transition

HD Radio(tm) - Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs)
http://www.npr.org/everywhere/digital/faq.html
HD Radio Questions ? - We've Got The HD Radio Answers !

HD Radio(tm) - Try the NPR HD Radio Simulation
http://www.npr.org/everywhere/digita...reloader1.html
How Does HD Radio Technology Sound ?
Experience the Quality Difference HD Radio Technology Offers !
[ WETA FM "HD" Radio Station Promo ]

CopyRight (c) 2008 - National Public Radio (NPR)
NPR - http://www.npr.org/ - All Rights Reserved.

HD Radio(tm) is a [TradeMark] of iBiquity Digital Corporation
iBiquity - http://www.ibiquity.com/
Copyright (c) 2008 - iBiquity Digital Corporation


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CLEAR CHANNEL PULLS THE PLUG ON SOME HD RADIO STATIONS
 

On Feb 7, 10:39 am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"IBOCcrock" wrote in message

...

"CLEAR CHANNEL PULLS THE PLUG ON SOME HD RADIO STATIONS"

"After conducting a survey of 340 HD2 stations to determine their
programming needs, the folks at Clear Channel have dumped a number of
their HD 'Format Lab' stations due to a lack of demand."

http://talentfilter.blogspot.com/200...pulls-plug-on-...

Yupper - there she goes!

Actually, no stations ceased HD broadcasting; a few have had different
formats put on the HD2 channels based on listener response.

There are no "Format Lab" stations.

The "Format Lab" is a development center in San Antonio where different
concepts are streamed and the ones with the most hits and longest listening
spans get put on actual radio stations. The ones that don't attract interest
are nuked and other ideas tried; it's an ongoing process. The idea is to
create new content for HD that has not been found on radio up till now.

Eddie - If no one is listening how do they get a listener response?
jw

CLEAR CHANNEL PULLS THE PLUG ON SOME HD RADIO STATIONS
 

"Rfburns" wrote in message
...
On Feb 7, 10:39 am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"IBOCcrock" wrote in message

...

"CLEAR CHANNEL PULLS THE PLUG ON SOME HD RADIO STATIONS"

"After conducting a survey of 340 HD2 stations to determine their
programming needs, the folks at Clear Channel have dumped a number of
their HD 'Format Lab' stations due to a lack of demand."

http://talentfilter.blogspot.com/200...pulls-plug-on-...

Yupper - there she goes!

Actually, no stations ceased HD broadcasting; a few have had different
formats put on the HD2 channels based on listener response.

There are no "Format Lab" stations.

The "Format Lab" is a development center in San Antonio where different
concepts are streamed and the ones with the most hits and longest
listening
spans get put on actual radio stations. The ones that don't attract
interest
are nuked and other ideas tried; it's an ongoing process. The idea is to
create new content for HD that has not been found on radio up till now.


Eddie - If no one is listening how do they get a listener response?


The "Format Lab" streams over 30 different prototype formats at
http://www.clearchannelmusic.com/formatlab/
and they can measure very easily which get more hits and listening time.
These prototypes, if successful, become the basis for terrestrial formats,
both for main channel and HD2 channels. The main idea is to find formats
with good appeal to put on the HD2 channels of Clear's stations to drive
receiver sales.

CLEAR CHANNEL PULLS THE PLUG ON SOME HD RADIO STATIONS
 

On Feb 7, 10:39*am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"IBOCcrock" wrote in message

...

"CLEAR CHANNEL PULLS THE PLUG ON SOME HD RADIO STATIONS"

"After conducting a survey of 340 HD2 stations to determine their
programming needs, the folks at Clear Channel have dumped a number of
their HD 'Format Lab' stations due to a lack of demand."

http://talentfilter.blogspot.com/200...pulls-plug-on-...

Yupper - there she goes!

Actually, no stations ceased HD broadcasting; a few have had different
formats put on the HD2 channels based on listener response.

There are no "Format Lab" stations.

The "Format Lab" is a development center in San Antonio where different
concepts are streamed and the ones with the most hits and longest listening
spans get put on actual radio stations. The ones that don't attract interest
are nuked and other ideas tried; it's an ongoing process. The idea is to
create new content for HD that has not been found on radio up till now.

http://www.clearchannelmusic.com/formatlab/

STUPID ****ER!

CLEAR CHANNEL PULLS THE PLUG ON SOME HD RADIO STATIONS
 

"IBOCcrock" wrote in message
...
On Feb 7, 10:39 am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"IBOCcrock" wrote in message

...

"CLEAR CHANNEL PULLS THE PLUG ON SOME HD RADIO STATIONS"

"After conducting a survey of 340 HD2 stations to determine their
programming needs, the folks at Clear Channel have dumped a number of
their HD 'Format Lab' stations due to a lack of demand."

http://talentfilter.blogspot.com/200...pulls-plug-on-...

Yupper - there she goes!

Actually, no stations ceased HD broadcasting; a few have had different
formats put on the HD2 channels based on listener response.

There are no "Format Lab" stations.

The "Format Lab" is a development center in San Antonio where different
concepts are streamed and the ones with the most hits and longest
listening
spans get put on actual radio stations. The ones that don't attract
interest
are nuked and other ideas tried; it's an ongoing process. The idea is to
create new content for HD that has not been found on radio up till now.

http://www.clearchannelmusic.com/formatlab/

As I said, the format lab tests "what if" formats for possible use on
terrestrial radio. They evaluate the formats by hits and length of each hit
and return hits from the same user. The formats that don't work are
periodically flushed and new ones are developed and tried.

The nature and number of the formats on the Format Lab page has nothing to
do with the operation of the terrestrial stations, analog or otherwise, run
by Clear Channel.

STUPID ****ER!

The truth hurts, huh?

CLEAR CHANNEL PULLS THE PLUG ON SOME HD RADIO STATIONS
 

IBOCcrock wrote:
On Feb 7, 10:39 am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"IBOCcrock" wrote in message

...

"CLEAR CHANNEL PULLS THE PLUG ON SOME HD RADIO STATIONS"
"After conducting a survey of 340 HD2 stations to determine their
programming needs, the folks at Clear Channel have dumped a number of
their HD 'Format Lab' stations due to a lack of demand."
http://talentfilter.blogspot.com/200...pulls-plug-on-...
Yupper - there she goes!
Actually, no stations ceased HD broadcasting; a few have had different
formats put on the HD2 channels based on listener response.

There are no "Format Lab" stations.

The "Format Lab" is a development center in San Antonio where different
concepts are streamed and the ones with the most hits and longest listening
spans get put on actual radio stations. The ones that don't attract interest
are nuked and other ideas tried; it's an ongoing process. The idea is to
create new content for HD that has not been found on radio up till now.

http://www.clearchannelmusic.com/formatlab/

STUPID ****ER!


So, I"m guessing that State Dinner with the Queen was a good time for
you?

CLEAR CHANNEL PULLS THE PLUG ON SOME HD RADIO STATIONS
 

David Eduardo wrote:
"IBOCcrock" wrote in message
...
On Feb 7, 10:39 am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"IBOCcrock" wrote in message

...

"CLEAR CHANNEL PULLS THE PLUG ON SOME HD RADIO STATIONS"
"After conducting a survey of 340 HD2 stations to determine their
programming needs, the folks at Clear Channel have dumped a number of
their HD 'Format Lab' stations due to a lack of demand."
http://talentfilter.blogspot.com/200...pulls-plug-on-...
Yupper - there she goes!
Actually, no stations ceased HD broadcasting; a few have had different
formats put on the HD2 channels based on listener response.

There are no "Format Lab" stations.

The "Format Lab" is a development center in San Antonio where different
concepts are streamed and the ones with the most hits and longest
listening
spans get put on actual radio stations. The ones that don't attract
interest
are nuked and other ideas tried; it's an ongoing process. The idea is to
create new content for HD that has not been found on radio up till now.

http://www.clearchannelmusic.com/formatlab/

As I said, the format lab tests "what if" formats for possible use on
terrestrial radio. They evaluate the formats by hits and length of each hit
and return hits from the same user. The formats that don't work are
periodically flushed and new ones are developed and tried.

The nature and number of the formats on the Format Lab page has nothing to
do with the operation of the terrestrial stations, analog or otherwise, run
by Clear Channel.

STUPID ****ER!

The truth hurts, huh?


His eloquence knows no bounds.

CLEAR CHANNEL PULLS THE PLUG ON SOME HD RADIO STATIONS
 

Eddie - You sound like one of those detached radio general managers I
talked to a few days back. Full of BS but no clue about reality. You
need help and I think I can help you with your fixation on the success
of HD radio but you need to accept that you have a problem. That is
the first step.

Now are you ready to be helped?

jw

CLEAR CHANNEL PULLS THE PLUG ON SOME HD RADIO STATIONS
 

On Feb 7, 11:58 am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Rfburns" wrote in message

...

Eddie - You sound like one of those detached radio general managers I
talked to a few days back. Full of BS but no clue about reality. You
need help and I think I can help you with your fixation on the success
of HD radio but you need to accept that you have a problem. That is
the first step.

Now are you ready to be helped?

Yeah, and the help is coming from Samsung and the other fabs that are
releasing 9 mm form factor low power consumption chips for delivery sometime
in Q2 of this year. This will permit portable HD devices, integration of HD
into MP3 players and phones, etc.

And... I am not a general manager, although I have been one in the past; I
work with listeners to find their needs and feelings regarding radio.

Eddie - You're still in denial. When it raises the prices up another
$100.00 for an MP3 player consumers will wisely pass that option up.
No demand....no HD. It really is that simple.

jw

CLEAR CHANNEL PULLS THE PLUG ON SOME HD RADIO STATIONS
 

David Eduardo wrote:

"Rfburns" wrote in message
...
Eddie - You sound like one of those detached radio general managers I
talked to a few days back. Full of BS but no clue about reality. You
need help and I think I can help you with your fixation on the success
of HD radio but you need to accept that you have a problem. That is
the first step.

Now are you ready to be helped?


Yeah, and the help is coming from Samsung and the other fabs that are
releasing 9 mm form factor low power consumption chips for delivery sometime
in Q2 of this year. This will permit portable HD devices, integration of HD
into MP3 players and phones, etc.

And... I am not a general manager, although I have been one in the past; I
work with listeners to find their needs and feelings regarding radio.

Check out their feelings for faux Hispanics while you're at it.

CLEAR CHANNEL PULLS THE PLUG ON SOME HD RADIO STATIONS
 

"Rfburns" wrote in message
...
On Feb 7, 11:58 am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Rfburns" wrote in message

...

Eddie - You sound like one of those detached radio general managers I
talked to a few days back. Full of BS but no clue about reality. You
need help and I think I can help you with your fixation on the success
of HD radio but you need to accept that you have a problem. That is
the first step.

Now are you ready to be helped?

Yeah, and the help is coming from Samsung and the other fabs that are
releasing 9 mm form factor low power consumption chips for delivery
sometime
in Q2 of this year. This will permit portable HD devices, integration of
HD
into MP3 players and phones, etc.

And... I am not a general manager, although I have been one in the past;
I
work with listeners to find their needs and feelings regarding radio.

Eddie - You're still in denial. When it raises the prices up another
$100.00 for an MP3 player consumers will wisely pass that option up.
No demand....no HD. It really is that simple.

Actually, the idea is to add more features to a player, phone or other
device at the same price.

CLEAR CHANNEL PULLS THE PLUG ON SOME HD RADIO STATIONS
 

David Eduardo wrote:

"Rfburns" wrote in message
...
On Feb 7, 11:58 am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Rfburns" wrote in message

...

Eddie - You sound like one of those detached radio general managers I
talked to a few days back. Full of BS but no clue about reality. You
need help and I think I can help you with your fixation on the success
of HD radio but you need to accept that you have a problem. That is
the first step.

Now are you ready to be helped?

Yeah, and the help is coming from Samsung and the other fabs that are
releasing 9 mm form factor low power consumption chips for delivery
sometime
in Q2 of this year. This will permit portable HD devices, integration of
HD
into MP3 players and phones, etc.

And... I am not a general manager, although I have been one in the past;
I
work with listeners to find their needs and feelings regarding radio.

Eddie - You're still in denial. When it raises the prices up another
$100.00 for an MP3 player consumers will wisely pass that option up.
No demand....no HD. It really is that simple.

Actually, the idea is to add more features to a player, phone or other
device at the same price.

Is that what you did by becoming a faux Hispanic... add more features?

CLEAR CHANNEL PULLS THE PLUG ON SOME HD RADIO STATIONS
 

"IBOCcrock" wrote in message
...
On Feb 7, 10:39?am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"IBOCcrock" wrote in message

...

"CLEAR CHANNEL PULLS THE PLUG ON SOME HD RADIO STATIONS"

"After conducting a survey of 340 HD2 stations to determine their
programming needs, the folks at Clear Channel have dumped a number of
their HD 'Format Lab' stations due to a lack of demand."

http://talentfilter.blogspot.com/200...pulls-plug-on-...

Yupper - there she goes!

Actually, no stations ceased HD broadcasting; a few have had different
formats put on the HD2 channels based on listener response.

There are no "Format Lab" stations.

The "Format Lab" is a development center in San Antonio where different
concepts are streamed and the ones with the most hits and longest
listening
spans get put on actual radio stations. The ones that don't attract
interest
are nuked and other ideas tried; it's an ongoing process. The idea is to
create new content for HD that has not been found on radio up till now.

"Clear Channel's murky future"

"Sad because eliminating new hires (including sellers), failing to
replace those who leave, stopping all investment in the future, and
halting all advertising and research is the equivalent of saying that
necessity requires us to strangle the goose that lays the golden eggs,
even as the goose is up for sale."


Nice bluff, Eduardo!

That still does not change the fact that no HD channels or operations have
been eliminated, or "dumped" as you eloquently said, at Clear, except by
sale of stations.

CLEAR CHANNEL PULLS THE PLUG ON SOME HD RADIO STATIONS
 

On Feb 7, 4:15*pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"IBOCcrock" wrote in message

...
On Feb 7, 10:39?am, "David Eduardo" wrote:





"IBOCcrock" wrote in message

...

"CLEAR CHANNEL PULLS THE PLUG ON SOME HD RADIO STATIONS"

"After conducting a survey of 340 HD2 stations to determine their
programming needs, the folks at Clear Channel have dumped a number of
their HD 'Format Lab' stations due to a lack of demand."

http://talentfilter.blogspot.com/200...pulls-plug-on-....

Yupper - there she goes!

Actually, no stations ceased HD broadcasting; a few have had different
formats put on the HD2 channels based on listener response.

There are no "Format Lab" stations.

The "Format Lab" is a development center in San Antonio where different
concepts are streamed and the ones with the most hits and longest
listening
spans get put on actual radio stations. The ones that don't attract
interest
are nuked and other ideas tried; it's an ongoing process. The idea is to
create new content for HD that has not been found on radio up till now.

"Clear Channel's murky future"

"Sad because eliminating new hires (including sellers), failing to
replace those who leave, stopping all investment in the future, and
halting all advertising and research is the equivalent of saying that
necessity requires us to strangle the goose that lays the golden eggs,
even as the goose is up for sale."

Nice bluff, Eduardo!

That still does not change the fact that no HD channels or operations have
been eliminated, or "dumped" as you eloquently said, at Clear, except by
sale of stations.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

And it turns out that Jimmy Hoffa is still alive, except his heart no
longer beats and his soft tissues have decomposed.

CLEAR CHANNEL PULLS THE PLUG ON SOME HD RADIO STATIONS
 

In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Rfburns" wrote in message
...
Eddie - You sound like one of those detached radio general managers I
talked to a few days back. Full of BS but no clue about reality. You
need help and I think I can help you with your fixation on the success
of HD radio but you need to accept that you have a problem. That is
the first step.

Now are you ready to be helped?


Yeah, and the help is coming from Samsung and the other fabs that are
releasing 9 mm form factor low power consumption chips for delivery sometime
in Q2 of this year. This will permit portable HD devices, integration of HD
into MP3 players and phones, etc.

And... I am not a general manager, although I have been one in the past; I
work with listeners to find their needs and feelings regarding radio.

9 mm is the package. It means 9 millimeter square. The number of
connections/pins can vary but the most important aspect is that it has
nothing to do with what is inside it. The thing that determines the
amount of power that is used is the die inside. The die is a piece of
semiconductor material that is the electronic circuitry inside the 9 mm
square package that along with the technology that made it determines
the power used by it.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

CLEAR CHANNEL PULLS THE PLUG ON SOME HD RADIO STATIONS
 

"Telamon" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Rfburns" wrote in message
...
Eddie - You sound like one of those detached radio general managers I
talked to a few days back. Full of BS but no clue about reality. You
need help and I think I can help you with your fixation on the success
of HD radio but you need to accept that you have a problem. That is
the first step.

Now are you ready to be helped?


Yeah, and the help is coming from Samsung and the other fabs that are
releasing 9 mm form factor low power consumption chips for delivery
sometime
in Q2 of this year. This will permit portable HD devices, integration of
HD
into MP3 players and phones, etc.

And... I am not a general manager, although I have been one in the past;
I
work with listeners to find their needs and feelings regarding radio.

9 mm is the package. It means 9 millimeter square. The number of
connections/pins can vary but the most important aspect is that it has
nothing to do with what is inside it. The thing that determines the
amount of power that is used is the die inside. The die is a piece of
semiconductor material that is the electronic circuitry inside the 9 mm
square package that along with the technology that made it determines
the power used by it.


Thank you. We are aware of that. Millimeter tends to indicate physical
dimension, doesn't it? Samsung has been nice enough to give us a little
presentation, in which they described how they developed a much smaller
package, which permits it to be used in multipurpose devices, which also
consumers much less power, permitting it to be used in portable devices.

CLEAR CHANNEL PULLS THE PLUG ON SOME HD RADIO STATIONS
 

Eddie - I think you're on to something. I can't wait to get a new
cell phone with HD radio inside. It's gonna be so cool hooked up to an
FM dipole antenna to recieve HD FM and a MW loop for AM HD. you're
right ... it's gonna work out real well. They're gonna sell like
hotcakes.

By the way I think you're becoming psychotic. You're delusions are
worse than I thought.

jw

CLEAR CHANNEL PULLS THE PLUG ON SOME HD RADIO STATIONS
 

On Feb 7, 9:12*pm, Rfburns wrote:
Eddie - I think you're on to something. *I can't wait to get a new
cell phone with HD radio inside. It's gonna be so cool hooked up to an
FM dipole antenna to recieve HD FM and a MW loop for AM HD. *you're
right ... it's gonna work out real well. *They're gonna sell like
hotcakes.

By the way I think you're becoming psychotic. *You're delusions are
worse than I thought.

jw

RF Burns,

You're Thoughs are worse than I Delusion.

~ RHF

CLEAR CHANNEL PULLS THE PLUG ON SOME HD RADIO STATIONS
 

Rfburns wrote:
Eddie - I think you're on to something. I can't wait to get a new
cell phone with HD radio inside. It's gonna be so cool hooked up to an
FM dipole antenna to recieve HD FM and a MW loop for AM HD. you're
right ... it's gonna work out real well. They're gonna sell like
hotcakes.



Not so outrageous. My Nokia has FM broadcast built in. Adding HD
wouldn't be so much of a stretch.

And using technology designed primarly for cell phone reception, the
FM in my Nokia allows some pretty impressive reception, using nothing
more than the earphone cord as an antenna, as far out of town as
Marengo, well outside of Chicago ADI.

CLEAR CHANNEL PULLS THE PLUG ON SOME HD RADIO STATIONS
 

David Eduardo wrote:
"IBOCcrock" wrote in message
...
"CLEAR CHANNEL PULLS THE PLUG ON SOME HD RADIO STATIONS"

"After conducting a survey of 340 HD2 stations to determine their
programming needs, the folks at Clear Channel have dumped a number of
their HD 'Format Lab' stations due to a lack of demand."

http://talentfilter.blogspot.com/200...n-some-hd.html

Yupper - there she goes!

Actually, no stations ceased HD broadcasting; a few have had different
formats put on the HD2 channels based on listener response.

There are no "Format Lab" stations.

The "Format Lab" is a development center in San Antonio where different
concepts are streamed and the ones with the most hits and longest listening
spans get put on actual radio stations. The ones that don't attract interest
are nuked and other ideas tried; it's an ongoing process. The idea is to
create new content for HD that has not been found on radio up till now.



So they're just hoping people will find these stations by osmosis, or what?

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David Eduardo wrote:

The "Format Lab" streams over 30 different prototype formats at
http://www.clearchannelmusic.com/formatlab/
and they can measure very easily which get more hits and listening time.
These prototypes, if successful, become the basis for terrestrial formats,
both for main channel and HD2 channels. The main idea is to find formats
with good appeal to put on the HD2 channels of Clear's stations to drive
receiver sales.


Are they on Shoutcast? Most people would never think to go to Clear
Channel dot com for innovation.

CLEAR CHANNEL PULLS THE PLUG ON SOME HD RADIO STATIONS
 

David Eduardo wrote:
"Rfburns" wrote in message
...
Eddie - You sound like one of those detached radio general managers I
talked to a few days back. Full of BS but no clue about reality. You
need help and I think I can help you with your fixation on the success
of HD radio but you need to accept that you have a problem. That is
the first step.

Now are you ready to be helped?


Yeah, and the help is coming from Samsung and the other fabs that are
releasing 9 mm form factor low power consumption chips for delivery sometime
in Q2 of this year. This will permit portable HD devices, integration of HD
into MP3 players and phones, etc.

And... I am not a general manager, although I have been one in the past; I
work with listeners to find their needs and feelings regarding radio.


Get a job in a shop or on a construction site. You won't learn anything
hanging-out in office buildings.

CLEAR CHANNEL PULLS THE PLUG ON SOME HD RADIO STATIONS
 

David Eduardo wrote:
"Rfburns" wrote in message
...
On Feb 7, 11:58 am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Rfburns" wrote in message

...

Eddie - You sound like one of those detached radio general managers I
talked to a few days back. Full of BS but no clue about reality. You
need help and I think I can help you with your fixation on the success
of HD radio but you need to accept that you have a problem. That is
the first step.
Now are you ready to be helped?
Yeah, and the help is coming from Samsung and the other fabs that are
releasing 9 mm form factor low power consumption chips for delivery
sometime
in Q2 of this year. This will permit portable HD devices, integration of
HD
into MP3 players and phones, etc.

And... I am not a general manager, although I have been one in the past;
I
work with listeners to find their needs and feelings regarding radio.
Eddie - You're still in denial. When it raises the prices up another
$100.00 for an MP3 player consumers will wisely pass that option up.
No demand....no HD. It really is that simple.

Actually, the idea is to add more features to a player, phone or other
device at the same price.



What is the current drain of your new doodad? That is the important spec.

CLEAR CHANNEL PULLS THE PLUG ON SOME HD RADIO STATIONS
 

Brenda Ann wrote:
Watching the news today, and doing some Google searches to verify my
information.. I'm wondering how much Clear Channel had to do with Romney
dropping out of the race. Since CC is owned by Bain Investments, which in
turn is owned (run?) by Romney, doesn't that create a HUMONGOUS conflict of
interest, and violate federal election laws?


He left Bain in 2001, din't he?

CLEAR CHANNEL PULLS THE PLUG ON SOME HD RADIO STATIONS
 

David Eduardo wrote:
"D Peter Maus" wrote in message
...

And using technology designed primarly for cell phone reception, the FM
in my Nokia allows some pretty impressive reception, using nothing more
than the earphone cord as an antenna, as far out of town as Marengo, well
outside of Chicago ADI.

There is no Chicago ADI.


Radio

Arbitron...maintains...areas for radio stations; each is called an area
of dominant influence (ADI). There are 286 ADI's in the United States.
-wikipedia

CLEAR CHANNEL PULLS THE PLUG ON SOME HD RADIO STATIONS
 

"Telamon" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:
..

Do you find it interesting what you can know about a part just from the
package it uses?


The key issue is that Samsung has designed a smaller single chip replacing
the multi-chip set, which could not be used in portables due to size and
power consumption. Who cares what is inside if it works as stated? It's not
"rocket science" just consumer electronics.

CLEAR CHANNEL PULLS THE PLUG ON SOME HD RADIO STATIONS
 

"Brenda Ann" wrote in message
...
Watching the news today, and doing some Google searches to verify my
information.. I'm wondering how much Clear Channel had to do with Romney
dropping out of the race. Since CC is owned by Bain Investments, which in
turn is owned (run?) by Romney, doesn't that create a HUMONGOUS conflict
of interest, and violate federal election laws?

Clear Channel is not owend by Bain Capital and Thos. Lee Partners, and will
not be for several months.

Romney has not run Bain for a decade, and does not own any of it; he owns
shares in several of its funds.

CLEAR CHANNEL PULLS THE PLUG ON SOME HD RADIO STATIONS
 

"David" wrote in message
...
David Eduardo wrote:
"IBOCcrock" wrote in message
...
"CLEAR CHANNEL PULLS THE PLUG ON SOME HD RADIO STATIONS"

"After conducting a survey of 340 HD2 stations to determine their
programming needs, the folks at Clear Channel have dumped a number of
their HD 'Format Lab' stations due to a lack of demand."

http://talentfilter.blogspot.com/200...n-some-hd.html

Yupper - there she goes!

Actually, no stations ceased HD broadcasting; a few have had different
formats put on the HD2 channels based on listener response.

There are no "Format Lab" stations.

The "Format Lab" is a development center in San Antonio where different
concepts are streamed and the ones with the most hits and longest
listening
spans get put on actual radio stations. The ones that don't attract
interest
are nuked and other ideas tried; it's an ongoing process. The idea is to
create new content for HD that has not been found on radio up till now.



So they're just hoping people will find these stations by osmosis, or
what?

People find them the same way they find any web stream "station."

CLEAR CHANNEL PULLS THE PLUG ON SOME HD RADIO STATIONS
 

"David" wrote in message
...
David Eduardo wrote:
"Rfburns" wrote in message
...
Eddie - You sound like one of those detached radio general managers I
talked to a few days back. Full of BS but no clue about reality. You
need help and I think I can help you with your fixation on the success
of HD radio but you need to accept that you have a problem. That is
the first step.

Now are you ready to be helped?


Yeah, and the help is coming from Samsung and the other fabs that are
releasing 9 mm form factor low power consumption chips for delivery
sometime in Q2 of this year. This will permit portable HD devices,
integration of HD into MP3 players and phones, etc.

And... I am not a general manager, although I have been one in the past;
I work with listeners to find their needs and feelings regarding radio.
Get a job in a shop or on a construction site. You won't learn anything
hanging-out in office buildings.

Actually, we hang out at community centers, swap meets, street corners,
malls, etc.

CLEAR CHANNEL PULLS THE PLUG ON SOME HD RADIO STATIONS
 

"David" wrote in message
...
David Eduardo wrote:
"D Peter Maus" wrote in message
...

And using technology designed primarly for cell phone reception, the
FM in my Nokia allows some pretty impressive reception, using nothing
more than the earphone cord as an antenna, as far out of town as
Marengo, well outside of Chicago ADI.

There is no Chicago ADI.
Radio

Arbitron...maintains...areas for radio stations; each is called an area of
dominant influence (ADI). There are 286 ADI's in the United States.
-wikipedia

Nope. Wikidud data.

Arbitron does not use ADIs any more, and has not for about 15 to 18 years.
They use DMAs, same as Nielsen. Nobody uses ADIs any more, particularly
since Arbitron does not do TV surveys. Arbitron reports are based on MSA, or
metro survey areas, and twice a year you can also get, if you pay for it,
DMA data... it is not released to the trades, ever. And buyers never ask for
it. The PPM apparently will not use DMA data at all.

CLEAR CHANNEL PULLS THE PLUG ON SOME HD RADIO STATIONS
 

David Eduardo wrote:
"David" wrote in message
...
David Eduardo wrote:
"D Peter Maus" wrote in message
...

And using technology designed primarly for cell phone reception, the
FM in my Nokia allows some pretty impressive reception, using nothing
more than the earphone cord as an antenna, as far out of town as
Marengo, well outside of Chicago ADI.
There is no Chicago ADI.
Radio

Arbitron...maintains...areas for radio stations; each is called an area of
dominant influence (ADI). There are 286 ADI's in the United States.
-wikipedia

Nope. Wikidud data.

Arbitron does not use ADIs any more, and has not for about 15 to 18 years.
They use DMAs, same as Nielsen. Nobody uses ADIs any more, particularly
since Arbitron does not do TV surveys. Arbitron reports are based on MSA, or
metro survey areas, and twice a year you can also get, if you pay for it,
DMA data... it is not released to the trades, ever. And buyers never ask for
it. The PPM apparently will not use DMA data at all.




I wasn't talking about ratings, Buckwheat. I was referring to
reception of a portable device at distance with simple antenna and
sophistcated techology. Precisely describing and experience with an
add-on feature to a device, as you had attempted to present. The use of
the term was entirely appropriate to my context.

Had we been speaking of ratings, you'd be correct. But we weren't.

What's almost laughable, is that here I was agreeing with you, and
you chose to attempt to micromanage the conversation and start an argument.

Once again, proving my previous points for me.

For someone who asserts that his official duties include listening,
you really don't seem to be interested in what's actually being said to
you.

CLEAR CHANNEL PULLS THE PLUG ON SOME HD RADIO STATIONS
 

"D Peter Maus" wrote in message
...
David Eduardo wrote:

Arbitron does not use ADIs any more, and has not for about 15 to 18
years. They use DMAs, same as Nielsen. Nobody uses ADIs any more,
particularly since Arbitron does not do TV surveys. Arbitron reports are
based on MSA, or metro survey areas, and twice a year you can also get,
if you pay for it, DMA data... it is not released to the trades, ever.
And buyers never ask for it. The PPM apparently will not use DMA data at
all.


I wasn't talking about ratings, Buckwheat. I was referring to reception
of a portable device at distance with simple antenna and sophisticated
technology. Precisely describing and experience with an add-on feature to
a device, as you had attempted to present. The use of the term was
entirely appropriate to my context.


Sorry, but ADI's ceased to be used decades ago, and since population is
dynamic, and no ADI has been redefined, the old definitions are obsolete.
Using an obsolete term for a rapidly changing population base is absurd. Do
you measure weight in stones and volume in cubits?

What's almost laughable, is that here I was agreeing with you, and you
chose to attempt to micromanage the conversation and start an argument.

I find it indescribably ludicrous that we would agree on anything.

Once again, proving my previous points for me.

For someone who asserts that his official duties include listening, you
really don't seem to be interested in what's actually being said to you.

Not by you, at least.

CLEAR CHANNEL PULLS THE PLUG ON SOME HD RADIO STATIONS
 

David Eduardo wrote:
"D Peter Maus" wrote in message
...
David Eduardo wrote:
Arbitron does not use ADIs any more, and has not for about 15 to 18
years. They use DMAs, same as Nielsen. Nobody uses ADIs any more,
particularly since Arbitron does not do TV surveys. Arbitron reports are
based on MSA, or metro survey areas, and twice a year you can also get,
if you pay for it, DMA data... it is not released to the trades, ever.
And buyers never ask for it. The PPM apparently will not use DMA data at
all.

I wasn't talking about ratings, Buckwheat. I was referring to reception
of a portable device at distance with simple antenna and sophisticated
technology. Precisely describing and experience with an add-on feature to
a device, as you had attempted to present. The use of the term was
entirely appropriate to my context.


Sorry, but ADI's ceased to be used decades ago, and since population is
dynamic, and no ADI has been redefined, the old definitions are obsolete.
Using an obsolete term for a rapidly changing population base is absurd. Do
you measure weight in stones and volume in cubits?


Interesting you should mention that. My Super 7 documentation
includes driver/passenger weight in stone.

So, yes. The point again, being that in an attempt to agree with you,
I was describing a wide area. Not a ratings incremental section.


What's almost laughable, is that here I was agreeing with you, and you
chose to attempt to micromanage the conversation and start an argument.

I find it indescribably ludicrous that we would agree on anything.


And yet, we have, and we did. And on more than one occasion.

Your bitterness does not become you. Certainly not someone in your
position. Certainly not someone who deigns to participate in USENet
newsgroups.

Which, I guess, also raises questions.


Once again, proving my previous points for me.

For someone who asserts that his official duties include listening, you
really don't seem to be interested in what's actually being said to you.

Not by you, at least.

Or anyone for that matter. Unfortunate. It is the essential
quality of Leadership that it listens BEFORE dismissal.

Even bulletproof warriors like Generals Puller and Patton
understood that listening is a far more important quality than speaking.

For someone in your position, that would seem a no-brainer.

Well....I guess experience has taught us in this case it is.

Have a nice day, David. Your vitriol does not become you. But it
does serve as an object lesson to the general tenor of Radio to it's
biggest fans.

And you wonder why we are less impressed with broadcasting as we
once were.

I'd say your bosses have a refund coming.

CLEAR CHANNEL PULLS THE PLUG ON SOME HD RADIO STATIONS
 

On Feb 8, 5:55*am, David wrote:
David Eduardo wrote:
"Rfburns" wrote in message
...
On Feb 7, 11:58 am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Rfburns" wrote in message

....

Eddie - You sound like one of those detached radio general managers I
talked to a few days back. *Full of BS but no clue about reality. *You
need help and I think I can help you with your fixation on the success
of HD radio but you need to accept that you have a problem. *That is
the first step.
Now are you ready to be helped?
Yeah, and the help is coming from Samsung and the other fabs that are
releasing 9 mm form factor low power consumption chips for delivery
sometime
in Q2 of this year. This will permit portable HD devices, integration of
HD
into MP3 players and phones, etc.

And... I am not a general manager, although I have been one in the past;
I
work with listeners to find their needs and feelings regarding radio.
Eddie - You're still in denial. *When it raises the prices up another
$100.00 for an MP3 player consumers will wisely pass that option up.
No demand....no HD. *It really is that simple.

- - Actually, the idea is to add more features to a
- - player, phone or other device at the same price.

d'Eduardo,

A Key New/Expanding High Technology Marketing Concept :
Always Selling-Up at No Extra Cost :
* For Businesses the Continued Process of Up-Grading
your Technology to Stay Competitive and In-the-Game.
* For Individual Consumers : Having All the Latest Bells
and Whistles -aka- Staying Ahead of the Want-to-Bees.

- What is the current drain of your new doodad?
-*That is the important spec.

David - That Is Very True ~ RHF

A Key Metric for Many is : Power Usage = Operating Time.

When they can make a Moto RAZR size "DooDad" that is
Truly an All-in-One Device and will run/play for a full 24 Hours
{All-Day} on a single charge : Then they will have an All-Day
Every-Day portable device that many/most Consumers will
think/know they : Got-To-Have-It { I Want/Need It Now ! }

Old and New Marketing Metrics : Area of Dominant Influence (ADI)-and- Designated Market Area (DMA)
 

On Feb 8, 6:10*am, David wrote:
David Eduardo wrote:
"D Peter Maus" wrote in message
...

* And using technology designed primarly for cell phone reception, the FM
in my Nokia allows some pretty impressive reception, using nothing more
than the earphone cord as an antenna, as far out of town as Marengo, well
outside of Chicago ADI.

There is no Chicago ADI.

Radio

Arbitron...maintains...areas for radio stations; each is called an area
of dominant influence (ADI). There are 286 ADI's in the United States.
-wikipedia

d'Eduardo the AMA "American Marketing Association" still
lists both Terms in their "Dictionary of Marketing Terms"
may be we need to rewite all the text books to suit you.

Area of Dominant Influence (ADI)
http://www.answers.com/topic/area-of...di?cat=biz-fin
In the measurement of television audience data, geographic area
composed of all the counties influenced by originating stations in a
particular television market. For example, the New York ADI is
composed of all the counties in New York and New Jersey where the New
York City television stations are viewed. Each county in the United
States is allocated exclusively to one ADI.
* See also : Designated Market Area (DMA) .
NOTE - Per the AMA - Area of Dominant Influence (ADI)
http://www.marketingpower.com/mg-dictionary-view167.php
The geographic area surrounding a city in which the broadcasting
stations based in that city account for a greater share of the
listening or viewing households than do broadcasting stations based in
other nearby cities.
* See also : Designated Market Area (DMA) .

Designated Market Area (DMA)
http://www.answers.com/topic/designa...ma?cat=biz-fin
Geographic area defined by nielsen media research company as a group
of counties that make up a particular television market. These
counties comprise the major viewing audience for the television
stations located in their particular metropolitan area. For the most
part, the metropolitan areas correspond to the standard metropolitan
statistical areas (see metro area) defined by the Federal Government
Office of Management and Budget. The areas do not overlap, and every
county in the United States belongs to only one DMA. dmas are used in
the evaluation of audience data as well as in the planning and buying
of media.
* See also : Area of Dominant Influence (ADI)
{ Oops we have gone full-circle }
http://en.mimi.hu/marketingweb/area_...influence.html
NOTE - Per the AMA - Designated Market Area (DMA)
http://www.marketingpower.com/mg-dic... arket%20area
- The geographic area surrounding a city in which the broadcasting
stations based in that city account for a greater share of the
listening or viewing households than do broadcasting stations based in
other nearby cities. It also is the specific geographic area to which
a county in the United States is exclusively assigned on the basis of
the television viewing habits of the people residing in the county.
* See also: Area of Dominant Influence (ADI)
{ Oops we have gone full-circle here too }

CLEAR CHANNEL PULLS THE PLUG ON SOME HD RADIO STATIONS
 

On Feb 8, 7:02*am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"D Peter Maus" wrote in ...





David Eduardo wrote:

Arbitron does not use ADIs any more, and has not for about 15 to 18
years. They use DMAs, same as Nielsen. Nobody uses ADIs any more,
particularly since Arbitron does not do TV surveys. Arbitron reports are
based on MSA, or metro survey areas, and twice a year you can also get,
if you pay for it, DMA data... it is not released to the trades, ever.
And buyers never ask for it. The PPM apparently will not use DMA data at
all.

* I wasn't talking about ratings, Buckwheat. I was referring to reception
of a portable device at distance with simple antenna and sophisticated
technology. Precisely describing and experience with an add-on feature to
a device, as you had attempted to present. The use of the term was
entirely appropriate to my context.

Sorry, but ADI's ceased to be used decades ago, and since population is
dynamic, and no ADI has been redefined, the old definitions are obsolete.
Using an obsolete term for a rapidly changing population base is absurd. Do
you measure weight in stones and volume in cubits?

* What's almost laughable, is that here I was agreeing with you, and you
chose to attempt to micromanage the conversation and start an argument.

- I find it indescribably ludicrous that we would agree on anything.

d'Eduardo - While some might 'question' your "Ethnicity".

No one would question the fact that you have a Hard-Head !

at times . . . :o) ~ RHF



* Once again, proving my previous points for me.

* For someone who asserts that his official duties include listening, you
really don't seem to be interested in what's actually being said to you.

Not by you, at least.- Hide quoted text -

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