CLEAR CHANNEL PULLS THE PLUG ON SOME HD RADIO STATIONS
 

"Steve" wrote in message
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On Feb 11, 3:38 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Steve" wrote in message

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On Feb 10, 12:20 am, "David Eduardo" wrote:



I work in radio,

Why should we believe this, given all the others lies you've told here?

I suppose the pictures on the NAB website of me speaking at NAB
conventions
means the NAB is nuts?

So you know how to use photoshop. Big deal.

It's on the NAB website. By the way, how is the interference to all of New
York City's radio stations tonight?

CLEAR CHANNEL PULLS THE PLUG ON SOME HD RADIO STATIONS
 

David 'Eduardo' Frackelton Gleason, wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
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David Eduardo wrote:

"Steve" wrote in message
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On Feb 10, 12:20 am, "David Eduardo" wrote:


I work in radio,

Why should we believe this, given all the others lies you've told here?

I suppose the pictures on the NAB website of me speaking at NAB
conventions
means the NAB is nuts?

Any group that would allow you to speak before it has to be nuts.


Terrific. DXass has taken on 10,000 radio stations and called their owners
and managers nuts.

If they allow you, a known genetically defective individual to speak before
them, then yes, I'd say they were nuts.

CLEAR CHANNEL PULLS THE PLUG ON SOME HD RADIO STATIONS
 

On Feb 12, 1:15*am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Steve" wrote in message

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On Feb 11, 3:38 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:

"Steve" wrote in message

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On Feb 10, 12:20 am, "David Eduardo" wrote:

I work in radio,

Why should we believe this, given all the others lies you've told here?

I suppose the pictures on the NAB website of me speaking at NAB
conventions
means the NAB is nuts?
So you know how to use photoshop. Big deal.

It's on the NAB website.

Oh, these are the same people you lied to about your job title. Yeah,
I guess that's one way to get them to use your photo.

By the way, how is the interference to all of New
York City's radio stations tonight?

It's still there and changes little over time.

CLEAR CHANNEL PULLS THE PLUG ON SOME HD RADIO STATIONS
 

"Steve" wrote in message
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On Feb 12, 1:15 am, "David Eduardo" wrote:


It's on the NAB website.

Oh, these are the same people you lied to about your job title. Yeah,
I guess that's one way to get them to use your photo.

The NAB made the mistake, not me. The fact remains, I was asked to be one of
the programmers on a panel that included the heads of programming or Radio
One, Entercom, Clear Channel and Cumulus.

By the way, how is the interference to all of New
York City's radio stations tonight?

It's still there and changes little over time.

And nobody but you detects it.

CLEAR CHANNEL PULLS THE PLUG ON SOME HD RADIO STATIONS
 

David 'Eduardo' Frackelton Gleason, wrote:

"Steve" wrote in message
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On Feb 13, 2:59 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:

The NAB made the mistake, not me. The fact remains, I was asked to be one
of
the programmers on a panel that included the heads of programming or Radio
One, Entercom, Clear Channel and Cumulus.

You tell a lie and that constitutes a mistake on their part? Sorry
Sunshine, but that ain't the way it works.

The mistake, I think was made by someone in the industry who recommended me
for the panel, and it just never got corrected. because convention
preparations are pretty much a whirlwind of activity.. The main fact is that
I was the person in charge of programming, and that is what the panel was
about... 5 of the head programmers of 5 of the top 10 radio companies in the
US.

At a certain point, titles are irrelevant.

At a certain point, faux Hispanics are irrelevent.

CLEAR CHANNEL PULLS THE PLUG ON SOME HD RADIO STATIONS
 

On Feb 15, 11:19*am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Steve" wrote in message

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Funny, there are about 16 million persons over 12 in the NYC metro area,
and
nobody, other than you, thinks they are "all" being interfered with. That
is
probably because there is no interference at all such as you spoke of.

That is funny, as I have talked to many, many people who have noticed.
Glad to see that you have your finger on the listening public's pulse,
as usual. Now if only you can figure out where the pulse is...

We have street teams out there every day talking to listners of our
stations. Despite cuming 2 million New Yorkers, we have not heard one
complaint of interference inside our protected contours other than the
routine "when my radio is near my computer...." or "when mom puts on the
tv...." that we all have heard for the last few decades.

Sounds like you need some new "street teams" (lol). It's not my fault
you've allowed these incompetents to keep their jobs for so long.

Most Regular AM/FM Radio Listeners Can Be Grouped Into . . .
 

On Feb 15, 8:19*am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Steve" wrote in message

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Funny, there are about 16 million persons over 12 in the NYC metro area,
and
nobody, other than you, thinks they are "all" being interfered with. That
is
probably because there is no interference at all such as you spoke of.

That is funny, as I have talked to many, many people who have noticed.
Glad to see that you have your finger on the listening public's pulse,
as usual. Now if only you can figure out where the pulse is...

- We have street teams out there every day talking to listners
- of our stations. Despite cuming 2 million New Yorkers,
- we have not heard one complaint of interference inside our
- protected contours other than the routine "when my radio
- is near my computer...." or "when mom puts on the tv...."
- that we all have heard for the last few decades.

d'Eduardo - What would you expect -if- Your Target Audience
is Spanich Speaking Radio Listeners; where the Number of
Spanish Radio Stations "Choices" in a Metro Area is : One,
a Couple, or very Few. A 'Sample' Size that has Attributes
and Charateristics that do not align and correspond with the
Greater non-Spanish Speaking Population {English Speakers}
who have a Greater Number of Radio Listening Options and
more Freedom of Choice across the AM and FM Radio Bands.

Most of your Radio Listeners would 'Fit" into Groups # 1 or # 2.

d"Eduado - Your's is a Limited Answer to a Question
with Mush Broader Aspects. ~ RHF

Most Regular AM/FM Radio Listeners Can Be Grouped Into :

Group # 1 - The Single (1) Radio Station Listeners :
The Reality is that a very large number of Radio Listeners
are Single (1) Station Listeners. Their Radio is Tuned to
One 'Local' Radio Station and that's that.
=PS= You will often see a new or old style Manual Tune
Radio be used by them in some Room in their Home.
So -if- "That" Radio Station 'sounds-ok' they could careless
about what the rest of the Radio Band sounds like.
? Why Is the Tivoli Audio Model One Manual Tuning* ?
http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...alty/1969.html
* Marketing Research shows . . . .

Group # 2 - The Few (3~4) Radio Station Listeners :
This to is a very large Group of Radio Listeners and they
will usually have a newer AM/FM Radio with Five (5)
Presets per Band. Normally They Listen to One to
Two of those 'Local' Radio Stations on each of the
AM and FM Radio Bands.
? Why Does the CCRadio Only Have 5-Presets* ?
http://www.ccrane.com/radios/am-fm-r...lus/index.aspx
* Marketing Research shows . . . .
=PS= Why Do Most Automobile AM/FM Radios
Have About 5~6 Push-Buttons** {PreSets}
http://www.originalcarradios.com/ima...ios/DA-112.jpg
http://www.hotbuy4u.com/pics/kenwood-kdc132.jpg
** Once Again Marketing Research shows . . . .

Time Out - Just for the Fun of It !
IT WAS EXTREAMLY LOUD = http://tinyurl.com/28qpak

Group # 3 - The Hourly {Minute-by-Minute} Radio Listener
This to is not as large a Group of Radio Listeners and
they are always changing the Radio Station that they are
Listening to; and seeking out something interesting to
hear. For them Seventy Plus (70+) Radio Station PreSets
{Memories} are not enought.
+ They Want More.
+ They Want Their Radios To Auto-Scan.
+ They Want Their Radios Look Complex.
+ They Want AM & FM Plus More . . .
+ They Want To Hear Distant (DX) Radio Stations.
=PS= They Want Shortwave + CW + SSB and Even More . . .
http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...able/0101.html
http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...able/0800.html
http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...able/1909.html
http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...able/0360.html

Most Regular AM/FM Radio Listeners Can Be Grouped Into . . .
 

"RHF" wrote in message
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On Feb 15, 8:19 am, "David Eduardo" wrote:

- We have street teams out there every day talking to listners
- of our stations. Despite cuming 2 million New Yorkers,
- we have not heard one complaint of interference inside our
- protected contours other than the routine "when my radio
- is near my computer...." or "when mom puts on the tv...."
- that we all have heard for the last few decades.

d'Eduardo - What would you expect -if- Your Target Audience
is Spanich Speaking Radio Listeners; where the Number of
Spanish Radio Stations "Choices" in a Metro Area is : One,
a Couple, or very Few.

Actually, in NY the choices are 4 FMs and two fulltime AMs, plus several
more at the edges of the metro, such as an AM and FM in Suffolk County.

All and all, there are about 9 of them.

A 'Sample' Size that has Attributes
and Charateristics that do not align and correspond with the
Greater non-Spanish Speaking Population {English Speakers}

Most Spanish speakers are also English speakers in the NY metro. About two
thirds of NY Hispanics also listen to English staitons. And NY is 20%
Hispanic... one out of ever 5 people.

who have a Greater Number of Radio Listening Options and
more Freedom of Choice across the AM and FM Radio Bands.

With the stations that exist in Spanish, the major formats are covered,
although only once each... not seversal times over such as happens in the
English language station array.

Most of your Radio Listeners would 'Fit" into Groups # 1 or # 2.
Most Regular AM/FM Radio Listeners Can Be Grouped Into :

Group # 1 - The Single (1) Radio Station Listeners :
The Reality is that a very large number of Radio Listeners
are Single (1) Station Listeners. Their Radio is Tuned to
One 'Local' Radio Station and that's that.

Untrue. I was discussing this with Arbitron today, and the percentage of
single station listeners is less than 1%. Most single station listeners are
evangelicals who do not listen to secular radio, only the evangelical
station. In NY, the average person listens to at least 3 radio stations
during the course of a week, with 6 to 7 being the high end.

Group # 2 - The Few (3~4) Radio Station Listeners :
This to is a very large Group of Radio Listeners and they
will usually have a newer AM/FM Radio with Five (5)
Presets per Band. Normally They Listen to One to
Two of those 'Local' Radio Stations on each of the
AM and FM Radio Bands.

Wrong again. While the 3 to 4 station range is normal, most in home and at
work radios have no presets. Younger listeners (under 35 to 40) will listen
to all FM, and those in the 35-54 range probably 2 to 3 FMs and an AM. Over
55, the split is more even with AM and FM.

Women tend to listen to more FM, and ethnic groups like Bkacks and Hispanics
use practically no AM.

Group # 3 - The Hourly {Minute-by-Minute} Radio Listener
This to is not as large a Group of Radio Listeners and
they are always changing the Radio Station that they are
Listening to; and seeking out something interesting to
hear. For them Seventy Plus (70+) Radio Station PreSets
{Memories} are not enought.

This trait almost entirely affects males in the teen and 18-24 bracket, who
have three to five stations that play the music they like, and between which
the switch when in the car where they have buttons on the radio. These
listeners are not very common.

Most Regular AM/FM Radio Listeners Can Be Grouped Into . . .
 

David Eduardo wrote:

"RHF" wrote in message
...
On Feb 15, 8:19 am, "David Eduardo" wrote:

- We have street teams out there every day talking to listners
- of our stations. Despite cuming 2 million New Yorkers,
- we have not heard one complaint of interference inside our
- protected contours other than the routine "when my radio
- is near my computer...." or "when mom puts on the tv...."
- that we all have heard for the last few decades.

d'Eduardo - What would you expect -if- Your Target Audience
is Spanich Speaking Radio Listeners; where the Number of
Spanish Radio Stations "Choices" in a Metro Area is : One,
a Couple, or very Few.

Actually, in NY the choices are 4 FMs and two fulltime AMs, plus several
more at the edges of the metro, such as an AM and FM in Suffolk County.

All and all, there are about 9 of them.

A 'Sample' Size that has Attributes
and Charateristics that do not align and correspond with the
Greater non-Spanish Speaking Population {English Speakers}

Most Spanish speakers are also English speakers in the NY metro. About two
thirds of NY Hispanics also listen to English staitons. And NY is 20%
Hispanic... one out of ever 5 people.

who have a Greater Number of Radio Listening Options and
more Freedom of Choice across the AM and FM Radio Bands.

With the stations that exist in Spanish, the major formats are covered,
although only once each... not seversal times over such as happens in the
English language station array.

Most of your Radio Listeners would 'Fit" into Groups # 1 or # 2.
Most Regular AM/FM Radio Listeners Can Be Grouped Into :

Group # 1 - The Single (1) Radio Station Listeners :
The Reality is that a very large number of Radio Listeners
are Single (1) Station Listeners. Their Radio is Tuned to
One 'Local' Radio Station and that's that.

Untrue. I was discussing this with Arbitron today, and the percentage of
single station listeners is less than 1%. Most single station listeners are
evangelicals who do not listen to secular radio, only the evangelical
station. In NY, the average person listens to at least 3 radio stations
during the course of a week, with 6 to 7 being the high end.

Group # 2 - The Few (3~4) Radio Station Listeners :
This to is a very large Group of Radio Listeners and they
will usually have a newer AM/FM Radio with Five (5)
Presets per Band. Normally They Listen to One to
Two of those 'Local' Radio Stations on each of the
AM and FM Radio Bands.

Wrong again. While the 3 to 4 station range is normal, most in home and at
work radios have no presets. Younger listeners (under 35 to 40) will listen
to all FM, and those in the 35-54 range probably 2 to 3 FMs and an AM. Over
55, the split is more even with AM and FM.

Women tend to listen to more FM, and ethnic groups like Bkacks and Hispanics
use practically no AM.

Group # 3 - The Hourly {Minute-by-Minute} Radio Listener
This to is not as large a Group of Radio Listeners and
they are always changing the Radio Station that they are
Listening to; and seeking out something interesting to
hear. For them Seventy Plus (70+) Radio Station PreSets
{Memories} are not enought.

This trait almost entirely affects males in the teen and 18-24 bracket, who
have three to five stations that play the music they like, and between which
the switch when in the car where they have buttons on the radio. These
listeners are not very common.

Faux Hispanics are not very common either!

Most Regular AM/FM Radio Listeners Can Be Grouped Into . . .
 

On Feb 15, 3:18*pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"RHF" wrote in message

...
On Feb 15, 8:19 am, "David Eduardo" wrote:

- We have street teams out there every day talking to listners
- of our stations. *Despite cuming 2 million New Yorkers,
- we have not heard one complaint of interference inside our
- protected contours other than the routine "when my radio
- is near my computer...." or "when mom puts on the tv...."
- that we all have heard for the last few decades.

d'Eduardo - What would you expect -if- Your Target Audience
is Spanich Speaking Radio Listeners; where the Number of
Spanish Radio Stations "Choices" in a Metro Area is : One,
a Couple, or very Few.

- Actually, in NY the choices are 4 FMs and two fulltime AMs,
- plus several more at the edges of the metro, such as an AM
- and FM in Suffolk County.

"plus several more at the edges of the metro"

d'Eduardo - OK so now you are including Radio Stations
BEYOND . . . the Service Contours

Let Us All Take A Deep Breath Before We Start . . .
ROTF LOBO ~ RHF

All and all, there are about 9 of them.

A 'Sample' Size that has Attributes
and Charateristics that do not align and correspond with the
Greater non-Spanish Speaking Population {English Speakers}

Most Spanish speakers are also English speakers in the NY metro. About two
thirds of NY Hispanics also listen to English staitons. And NY is 20%
Hispanic... one out of ever 5 people.

who have a Greater Number of Radio Listening Options and
more Freedom of Choice across the AM and FM Radio Bands.

- With the stations that exist in Spanish, the major formats
- are covered, although only once each... not seversal times
- over such as happens in the English language station array.

That's Called Limited "Choice" -versus- Maximum "Choice" :
"Your Sampling" applies to "Your Sample"; and can not be
applied to the Greater Polulation with any Degree of Certainty.

Most of your Radio Listeners would 'Fit" into Groups # 1 or # 2.
Most Regular AM/FM Radio Listeners Can Be Grouped Into :

Group # 1 - The Single (1) Radio Station Listeners :
The Reality is that a very large number of Radio Listeners
are Single (1) Station Listeners. *Their Radio is Tuned to
One 'Local' Radio Station and that's that.

- Untrue. I was discussing this with Arbitron today, and the
- percentage of single station listeners is less than 1%.

A - The They {Arbitron} must not Count Business and Work Place
Radio Listeners : Where it is One Radio Station "Only" All Day
Every Day. {The Shop Radio / Cafe Radio}

Have then give you some numbers specific to Work Place
Radio Listening. I spent 30 Years Five Days a Week
for 8 Hours a Day having the Choice of One Radio Station
to Listen To; that is when I could listen to a Radio at all.

B - Drive Time Radio "Traffic and Weather" is usually a One
Radio Station "Only" Time of Day for Many/Most Commuters :
What Does Arbitron Have To Say About That ?
? Is that "Included" in the One Percent (1%) ?

- Most single station listeners are evangelicals who do not
- listen to secular radio, only the evangelical station.

Like the 'segue' to bashing Christian Evangelical Radio Listeners :

While your Taget Audience Speaks Spanish -remember-
The Christian Evangelical Radio Listeners Speak "GOD" :o)

EWTN "Catholic Radio" should also factor in to that Group
of One Radio Station 'Only' Listeners.
{o: OK - Only the Pope Nose :o}

- In NY, the average person listens to at least 3 radio stations
- during the course of a week, with 6 to 7 being the high end.

Sounds About Right.
{Most likely applies to many/most Metro Areas.}

Group # 2 - The Few (3~4) Radio Station Listeners :
This to is a very large Group of Radio Listeners and they
will usually have a newer AM/FM Radio with Five (5)
Presets per Band. *Normally They Listen to One to
Two of those 'Local' Radio Stations on each of the
AM and FM Radio Bands.

- Wrong again. While the 3 to 4 station range is normal,
- most in home and at work radios have no presets.
- Younger listeners (under 35 to 40) will listen to all FM,
- and those in the 35-54 range probably 2 to 3 FMs and
- an AM.
- Over 55, the split is more even with AM and FM.

d'Eduardo - hint, Hint. HINT ! - It was not the type of Radio
{Yes PreSets Make It Easier to Push-a-Button to Tune.}
I was About the Avergae "Being" 3~4 Radio Stations that
the 'majority' of Radio Station Listeners 'Choose' to Listen
to on a Regular Basis; and 97.53% of those Radio Stations
are most likely LOCAL*.
* So for this 'majority' of Radio Listeners IBOC "HD" Radio
Ain't A Problem.

- Women tend to listen to more FM, and ethnic groups
like Blacks and Hispanics use practically no AM.

The 'Inference' being AM/MW Radio is the vestige of :
The All American White Males -aka- Red-Neck Radio*.
* Politely called Conservative Talk Radio

Group # 3 - The Hourly {Minute-by-Minute} Radio Listener
This to is not as large a Group of Radio Listeners and
they are always changing the Radio Station that they are
Listening to; and *seeking out something interesting to
hear. *For them Seventy Plus (70+) Radio Station PreSets
{Memories} are not enought.

- This trait almost entirely affects males in the teen and
- 18-24 bracket, who have three to five stations that play
- the music they like, and between which the switch when
- in the car where they have buttons on the radio.

DANG - There Are A Whole Bunch of Us Here on RRS :
That Are Still Young at Heart and Alive in the Spirit of
Active Radio Listening.

-Or- Maybe You are Calling Us All Immature ? :-{

- These listeners are not very common.

YEP - That Would Be Us - Distant (DX) Listeners Too !
[-: The Un-Common {Discerning} Few :-]

Oops - I am Playing d'Eduardo Ping-Pong !
now you stop that 'rhf' ~ RHF

(OT) : What About : The d'Eduardo "Ping-Pong" Players List ?
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...b402a4ed9a106a

Most Regular AM/FM Radio Listeners Can Be Grouped Into . . .
 

"RHF" wrote in message
...
On Feb 15, 3:18 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:

"plus several more at the edges of the metro"

d'Eduardo - OK so now you are including Radio Stations
BEYOND . . . the Service Contours

No, they are simply stations with partial coverage of the metro due to power
or dial position, but definitely inside the metro.


- With the stations that exist in Spanish, the major formats
- are covered, although only once each... not seversal times
- over such as happens in the English language station array.

That's Called Limited "Choice" -versus- Maximum "Choice" :
"Your Sampling" applies to "Your Sample"; and can not be
applied to the Greater Polulation with any Degree of Certainty.

In most cases, the broader choice in NYC in English is strictly an issue of
having 3 hip hop stations, two CHRs, three AC's, etc. There are not all that
many different formats.

- Untrue. I was discussing this with Arbitron today, and the
- percentage of single station listeners is less than 1%.

A - The They {Arbitron} must not Count Business and Work Place
Radio Listeners : Where it is One Radio Station "Only" All Day
Every Day. {The Shop Radio / Cafe Radio}

They count at work, in the car and in home listening. Most people don't work
at places where a radio is on all day. For example, no chain store has a
commercial radio station on, from Macys to Wal Mart. They have their own
house music channel.

Have then give you some numbers specific to Work Place
Radio Listening. I spent 30 Years Five Days a Week
for 8 Hours a Day having the Choice of One Radio Station
to Listen To; that is when I could listen to a Radio at all.

The at work listening is part of every radio market report. About 28% of all
listneing is at work.

B - Drive Time Radio "Traffic and Weather" is usually a One
Radio Station "Only" Time of Day for Many/Most Commuters :
What Does Arbitron Have To Say About That ?
? Is that "Included" in the One Percent (1%) ?

Actually, drive time is the time where more total stations are used than any
other, because there is access to the buttons! A typical pattern is a bit of
the news station, a bit of a personality morning show, and a bit of music.

- Most single station listeners are evangelicals who do not
- listen to secular radio, only the evangelical station.

Like the 'segue' to bashing Christian Evangelical Radio Listeners :

While your Taget Audience Speaks Spanish -remember-
The Christian Evangelical Radio Listeners Speak "GOD" :o)

1330 in NY is an evangelical station, in Spanish. The only issue there is
that many evangelicals are encouraged not to partake of secular music, which
is viewed by some as an offense to God.

EWTN "Catholic Radio" should also factor in to that Group
of One Radio Station 'Only' Listeners.
{o: OK - Only the Pope Nose :o}

There are very few Catholic stations in the US. I had the priviledge of
helping set up one in Lima, Peru, for Cardenal Rickets Landazuri in the
early 80's, and it was among the more satisfying things I ever did.

Group # 2 - The Few (3~4) Radio Station Listeners :
This to is a very large Group of Radio Listeners and they
will usually have a newer AM/FM Radio with Five (5)
Presets per Band. Normally They Listen to One to
Two of those 'Local' Radio Stations on each of the
AM and FM Radio Bands.

- Wrong again. While the 3 to 4 station range is normal,
- most in home and at work radios have no presets.
- Younger listeners (under 35 to 40) will listen to all FM,
- and those in the 35-54 range probably 2 to 3 FMs and
- an AM.
- Over 55, the split is more even with AM and FM.

d'Eduardo - hint, Hint. HINT ! - It was not the type of Radio
{Yes PreSets Make It Easier to Push-a-Button to Tune.}
I was About the Avergae "Being" 3~4 Radio Stations that
the 'majority' of Radio Station Listeners 'Choose' to Listen
to on a Regular Basis; and 97.53% of those Radio Stations
are most likely LOCAL*.
* So for this 'majority' of Radio Listeners IBOC "HD" Radio
Ain't A Problem.

In home and at work listening is generally long listening spans, few if any
station changes.

- Women tend to listen to more FM, and ethnic groups
like Blacks and Hispanics use practically no AM.

The 'Inference' being AM/MW Radio is the vestige of :
The All American White Males -aka- Red-Neck Radio*.
* Politely called Conservative Talk Radio

I have no idea what it means; likely it is because both those cummunities
have amuch younger average age and don't find anything on AM they like. In
Latin America, AM listening is pretty dead, with nearly all of the main
formats, including talk and news, now on FM.

Group # 3 - The Hourly {Minute-by-Minute} Radio Listener
This to is not as large a Group of Radio Listeners and
they are always changing the Radio Station that they are
Listening to; and seeking out something interesting to
hear. For them Seventy Plus (70+) Radio Station PreSets
{Memories} are not enought.

- This trait almost entirely affects males in the teen and
- 18-24 bracket, who have three to five stations that play
- the music they like, and between which the switch when
- in the car where they have buttons on the radio.

DANG - There Are A Whole Bunch of Us Here on RRS :
That Are Still Young at Heart and Alive in the Spirit of
Active Radio Listening.

At least 5 of you.

Most Regular AM/FM Radio Listeners Can Be Grouped Into . . .
 

David Eduardo wrote:

"RHF" wrote in message
...
On Feb 15, 3:18 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:

"plus several more at the edges of the metro"

d'Eduardo - OK so now you are including Radio Stations
BEYOND . . . the Service Contours

No, they are simply stations with partial coverage of the metro due to power
or dial position, but definitely inside the metro.

- With the stations that exist in Spanish, the major formats
- are covered, although only once each... not seversal times
- over such as happens in the English language station array.

That's Called Limited "Choice" -versus- Maximum "Choice" :
"Your Sampling" applies to "Your Sample"; and can not be
applied to the Greater Polulation with any Degree of Certainty.

In most cases, the broader choice in NYC in English is strictly an issue of
having 3 hip hop stations, two CHRs, three AC's, etc. There are not all that
many different formats.

- Untrue. I was discussing this with Arbitron today, and the
- percentage of single station listeners is less than 1%.

A - The They {Arbitron} must not Count Business and Work Place
Radio Listeners : Where it is One Radio Station "Only" All Day
Every Day. {The Shop Radio / Cafe Radio}

They count at work, in the car and in home listening. Most people don't work
at places where a radio is on all day. For example, no chain store has a
commercial radio station on, from Macys to Wal Mart. They have their own
house music channel.

Have then give you some numbers specific to Work Place
Radio Listening. I spent 30 Years Five Days a Week
for 8 Hours a Day having the Choice of One Radio Station
to Listen To; that is when I could listen to a Radio at all.

The at work listening is part of every radio market report. About 28% of all
listneing is at work.

B - Drive Time Radio "Traffic and Weather" is usually a One
Radio Station "Only" Time of Day for Many/Most Commuters :
What Does Arbitron Have To Say About That ?
? Is that "Included" in the One Percent (1%) ?

Actually, drive time is the time where more total stations are used than any
other, because there is access to the buttons! A typical pattern is a bit of
the news station, a bit of a personality morning show, and a bit of music.

- Most single station listeners are evangelicals who do not
- listen to secular radio, only the evangelical station.

Like the 'segue' to bashing Christian Evangelical Radio Listeners :

While your Taget Audience Speaks Spanish -remember-
The Christian Evangelical Radio Listeners Speak "GOD" :o)

1330 in NY is an evangelical station, in Spanish. The only issue there is
that many evangelicals are encouraged not to partake of secular music, which
is viewed by some as an offense to God.

EWTN "Catholic Radio" should also factor in to that Group
of One Radio Station 'Only' Listeners.
{o: OK - Only the Pope Nose :o}

There are very few Catholic stations in the US. I had the priviledge of
helping set up one in Lima, Peru, for Cardenal Rickets Landazuri in the
early 80's, and it was among the more satisfying things I ever did.

Group # 2 - The Few (3~4) Radio Station Listeners :
This to is a very large Group of Radio Listeners and they
will usually have a newer AM/FM Radio with Five (5)
Presets per Band. Normally They Listen to One to
Two of those 'Local' Radio Stations on each of the
AM and FM Radio Bands.

- Wrong again. While the 3 to 4 station range is normal,
- most in home and at work radios have no presets.
- Younger listeners (under 35 to 40) will listen to all FM,
- and those in the 35-54 range probably 2 to 3 FMs and
- an AM.
- Over 55, the split is more even with AM and FM.

d'Eduardo - hint, Hint. HINT ! - It was not the type of Radio
{Yes PreSets Make It Easier to Push-a-Button to Tune.}
I was About the Avergae "Being" 3~4 Radio Stations that
the 'majority' of Radio Station Listeners 'Choose' to Listen
to on a Regular Basis; and 97.53% of those Radio Stations
are most likely LOCAL*.
* So for this 'majority' of Radio Listeners IBOC "HD" Radio
Ain't A Problem.

In home and at work listening is generally long listening spans, few if any
station changes.

- Women tend to listen to more FM, and ethnic groups
like Blacks and Hispanics use practically no AM.

The 'Inference' being AM/MW Radio is the vestige of :
The All American White Males -aka- Red-Neck Radio*.
* Politely called Conservative Talk Radio

I have no idea what it means; likely it is because both those cummunities
have amuch younger average age and don't find anything on AM they like. In
Latin America, AM listening is pretty dead, with nearly all of the main
formats, including talk and news, now on FM.

Group # 3 - The Hourly {Minute-by-Minute} Radio Listener
This to is not as large a Group of Radio Listeners and
they are always changing the Radio Station that they are
Listening to; and seeking out something interesting to
hear. For them Seventy Plus (70+) Radio Station PreSets
{Memories} are not enought.

- This trait almost entirely affects males in the teen and
- 18-24 bracket, who have three to five stations that play
- the music they like, and between which the switch when
- in the car where they have buttons on the radio.

DANG - There Are A Whole Bunch of Us Here on RRS :
That Are Still Young at Heart and Alive in the Spirit of
Active Radio Listening.

At least 5 of you.

And at least 1 faux Hispanic who has no QSL's (veries) and certainly has never
had an Amateur Radio license...

Most Regular AM/FM Radio Listeners Can Be Grouped Into . . .
 

dxAce wrote:

David Eduardo wrote:

"RHF" wrote in message
...
On Feb 15, 3:18 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:

"plus several more at the edges of the metro"

d'Eduardo - OK so now you are including Radio Stations
BEYOND . . . the Service Contours

No, they are simply stations with partial coverage of the metro due to power
or dial position, but definitely inside the metro.

- With the stations that exist in Spanish, the major formats
- are covered, although only once each... not seversal times
- over such as happens in the English language station array.

That's Called Limited "Choice" -versus- Maximum "Choice" :
"Your Sampling" applies to "Your Sample"; and can not be
applied to the Greater Polulation with any Degree of Certainty.

In most cases, the broader choice in NYC in English is strictly an issue of
having 3 hip hop stations, two CHRs, three AC's, etc. There are not all that
many different formats.

- Untrue. I was discussing this with Arbitron today, and the
- percentage of single station listeners is less than 1%.

A - The They {Arbitron} must not Count Business and Work Place
Radio Listeners : Where it is One Radio Station "Only" All Day
Every Day. {The Shop Radio / Cafe Radio}

They count at work, in the car and in home listening. Most people don't work
at places where a radio is on all day. For example, no chain store has a
commercial radio station on, from Macys to Wal Mart. They have their own
house music channel.

Have then give you some numbers specific to Work Place
Radio Listening. I spent 30 Years Five Days a Week
for 8 Hours a Day having the Choice of One Radio Station
to Listen To; that is when I could listen to a Radio at all.

The at work listening is part of every radio market report. About 28% of all
listneing is at work.

B - Drive Time Radio "Traffic and Weather" is usually a One
Radio Station "Only" Time of Day for Many/Most Commuters :
What Does Arbitron Have To Say About That ?
? Is that "Included" in the One Percent (1%) ?

Actually, drive time is the time where more total stations are used than any
other, because there is access to the buttons! A typical pattern is a bit of
the news station, a bit of a personality morning show, and a bit of music.

- Most single station listeners are evangelicals who do not
- listen to secular radio, only the evangelical station.

Like the 'segue' to bashing Christian Evangelical Radio Listeners :

While your Taget Audience Speaks Spanish -remember-
The Christian Evangelical Radio Listeners Speak "GOD" :o)

1330 in NY is an evangelical station, in Spanish. The only issue there is
that many evangelicals are encouraged not to partake of secular music, which
is viewed by some as an offense to God.

EWTN "Catholic Radio" should also factor in to that Group
of One Radio Station 'Only' Listeners.
{o: OK - Only the Pope Nose :o}

There are very few Catholic stations in the US. I had the priviledge of
helping set up one in Lima, Peru, for Cardenal Rickets Landazuri in the
early 80's, and it was among the more satisfying things I ever did.

Group # 2 - The Few (3~4) Radio Station Listeners :
This to is a very large Group of Radio Listeners and they
will usually have a newer AM/FM Radio with Five (5)
Presets per Band. Normally They Listen to One to
Two of those 'Local' Radio Stations on each of the
AM and FM Radio Bands.

- Wrong again. While the 3 to 4 station range is normal,
- most in home and at work radios have no presets.
- Younger listeners (under 35 to 40) will listen to all FM,
- and those in the 35-54 range probably 2 to 3 FMs and
- an AM.
- Over 55, the split is more even with AM and FM.

d'Eduardo - hint, Hint. HINT ! - It was not the type of Radio
{Yes PreSets Make It Easier to Push-a-Button to Tune.}
I was About the Avergae "Being" 3~4 Radio Stations that
the 'majority' of Radio Station Listeners 'Choose' to Listen
to on a Regular Basis; and 97.53% of those Radio Stations
are most likely LOCAL*.
* So for this 'majority' of Radio Listeners IBOC "HD" Radio
Ain't A Problem.

In home and at work listening is generally long listening spans, few if any
station changes.

- Women tend to listen to more FM, and ethnic groups
like Blacks and Hispanics use practically no AM.

The 'Inference' being AM/MW Radio is the vestige of :
The All American White Males -aka- Red-Neck Radio*.
* Politely called Conservative Talk Radio

I have no idea what it means; likely it is because both those cummunities
have amuch younger average age and don't find anything on AM they like. In
Latin America, AM listening is pretty dead, with nearly all of the main
formats, including talk and news, now on FM.

Group # 3 - The Hourly {Minute-by-Minute} Radio Listener
This to is not as large a Group of Radio Listeners and
they are always changing the Radio Station that they are
Listening to; and seeking out something interesting to
hear. For them Seventy Plus (70+) Radio Station PreSets
{Memories} are not enought.

- This trait almost entirely affects males in the teen and
- 18-24 bracket, who have three to five stations that play
- the music they like, and between which the switch when
- in the car where they have buttons on the radio.

DANG - There Are A Whole Bunch of Us Here on RRS :
That Are Still Young at Heart and Alive in the Spirit of
Active Radio Listening.

At least 5 of you.

And at least 1 faux Hispanic who has no QSL's (veries) and certainly has never
had an Amateur Radio license...

Tell ya what, 'Eduardo', I need a road trip. How about you set up a time in May,
when you'd be willing to meet up with me and Telamon... I'll pick him up in
Ventura after I make a run through Ojai, and we'll run down to Glendale, or
wherever you park your ass and we'll both check out those QSL's (I'll bring mine).

Caveat: You agree to pay for my trip if either, you don't show, you don't have the
QSL's, etc.

Have your *daughter* draw up a contract, BOY!

Most Regular AM/FM Radio Listeners Can Be Grouped Into . . .
 

On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 21:01:09 -0500, dxAce
wrote:



Have your *daughter* draw up a contract, BOY!

DXAce,
Get off Eduardo's daughter.......................I just did 8-}