RHF wrote:
On Feb 17, 8:09 pm, Steve wrote:

- S N I P -

- RHF, you are rooting for HD?

-r- NO [.]

- I almost can't believe my eyes.

-r- Open Your Eyes to the Reality that "HD" Radio Ain't
Going Away Soon -and- Very Well May Be Here Forever.

- It's like hearing Greenpeace root for increased use of fossil
fuels.

GreenPeace might Work Harder to Save a Living Fossil :
Then to Protect a Dead One. {In Life There Are Choices.}

Steve - Understand that the Radio Industry is "COMMITTED"
Big Time to the IBOC Scheme by iBiquity that is commonly
called "HD" Radio; and has put it's Money and Resources
behind it with a Transition Plan that goes on for Years.

1 - When FM Radio came about the AM/MW Radio Stations
Opposed It : Not So with "HD" Radio - Corporate AM/MW
Radio is On-Board the "HD" Radio Band-Wagon.

2 - When FM-Stereo Radio came along AM/MW Radio
Stations tried a few different AM-Stereo 'schemes' but
with NO Industry Standard AM-Stereo Failed due to
FCC and Industry Mismanagement : Not So with "HD"
Radio, both the AM/MW Industry and the FCC are
behind IBOC as a Standard for both AM/MW and FM
"HD" Radio Broadcasting. {They Both Learned from the
AM-Stereo Fiasco.}

3 - They is Solid Radio Broadcast Corporate 'Commitment'
to the IBOC Scheme for both AM/MW and FM "HD" Radio.
Perhaps 100 Times the Amount 'committed' to early FM
Radio Broadcasting. Perhaps 10 Times the Amount that
was 'committed' to early FM-Stereo and AM-Stereo Radio
Broadcasting. {Inflation Adjusted Dollars} IBOC "HD"
Radio has the Financial Backing to be Successful and
the Long Term Commitment to simply let it succeed
over many years.

4 - As I have said before IBOC "HD" Radio will Succeed
or Fail with it's Public Acceptance of FM "HD" Radio
and AM/MW "HD" Radio will simply be dragged along
with FM "HD" Radio.

5 - FM "HD" Radio is not about better Audio Sound :
Is is about a Second 'Sellable" Audio Stream [HD-2]
for the Radio Station to Market to Consumers and
Sell to Advertisers. {Radio It's About Business.}

6 - What FM "HD" Radio needs is a Killer Application to
make the HD-2 Radio Audio Stream "That Something"
that Radio Listeners {Audio Consumers} both WANT
and NEED !

reality may indeed 'suck' {reality sucks}
-but- just because something 'sucks'
don't mean that it will fail ~ RHF

EXAMPLE : MicroSoft Sucks. -v- Apple is Super.
But MicroSoft is # 1 in a Two Horse Race where
Apple is a Distant # 3 in Market Share and Sales
Volume.
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RHF:

Unless the radio stations can improve content and sound quality. More
and more people will switch to Sirius or XM or just use the CD or I
POD/MP3 connections included with most new car sound systems.
I am going to be one of them.
I wasted over $175 on the Sangean receiver to discover not only the
sound causes me to shut it off after a half hour, but the secondary
content is throw away on most of the stations except public radio
offerings.
I have several co-workers who have and love their sat. receivers and
the sound is much improved over so called HD-sound. I can enjoy
listening to Sirius's offerings.
I used to listen to a AM-stereo station that to my ears almost matched
the fidelity of the FM stations. Now that it switched to the HD
broadcast it sounds like listening to the MUSZAC offerings while being
put on hold on the telephone on my analog receiver. The Sangean cannot
decode the HD content at all and the analog portion is also much like my
previous description of auto receiver.
There is nothing currently on local radio especially HD to me spring for
a new HD receiver.
Ken I.

"HD" Radios ! - The Un-Qualified Comments by a
Simple Consumer of 'Free' Over-the-Air AM & FM Radio
http://groups.google.com/group/hd-ra...065b770e048027

On Feb 18, 3:50 am, Kenneth Isham wrote:
Point-of-Fact : Consumers Are Buying "HD" Radios !
- How Is This Bad News For "HD" Radio ?
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...6895e5674967b4

= = = S N I P = = =

- Unless the radio stations can improve content and sound quality.

Radio Sound - See # 5
5 - FM "HD" Radio is not about better Audio Sound :
It is about a Second 'Sellable" Audio Stream [HD-2]
for the Radio Station to Market to Consumers and
Sell to Advertisers. {Radio It's About Business.}

IMHO - "HD" Radios sound quality is 'good enough' for
the vast majority of Radio Listeners. How much better
can a Radio sound in most moving Cars and Truck;
and in the average Room in a Home.

Reality Sucks - Radio Listeners are Lazy Audio Content
Consumers. It can't get much eaiser than Radio. Buy
a Radio and plug it in. Turn-It-On and Tune-it-In and
Just Listen. Now Extra Costs and Not Extra Work.

Radio Content - See # 6
6 - What FM "HD" Radio needs is a Killer Application to make
the HD-2 Radio Audio Stream "That Something" that Radio
Listeners {Audio Consumers} both WANT and NEED !

IMHO - "HD" Radio {Digital FM Radio} needs new HD-2
Audio Content that is marketable to Radio Listeners and
Sellable to to Advertisers. To first Maintain and then to
Grow their Market Share in the Age of New Media.

- More and more people will switch to Sirius or XM or just
- use the CD or I POD/MP3 connections included with
- most new car sound systems.

Sirius and XM Satellite Radio require Extra Cost and some
Specialized Equipment.

BONUS - Your Homes [Hidden] Source of Digital Audio :
Most American Consumers already have a Second Audio
Source within their Homes that is Commercial Free Audio
and it comes to them in the form of Cable TV or Satellite
TV "Digital" {Can We All Say "HD"} Sound. Usually 40 or
More Digital {TV} Audio Channels to 'choose' from; which
is on the Average more than most Metro Area Radio 'choice'
options available to Free Over-the-Air Radio Listeners.
Presently these Digital {TV} Audio Channels are limited to
Music; but if they Added the Big-5 Talk Radio Networks to
their Line-Up It could attract many more Radio Listeners to
the Digital {TV} Audio Channels. Note - The Big-5 Talk Radio
Network Audio Streams would NOT be Commerical Free.

- I am going to be one of them.

Good - That is Your 'Choice' that you have to make for yourself.

- I wasted over $175 on the Sangean receiver to discover not
- only the sound causes me to shut it off after a half hour,
- but the secondary content is throw away on most of the
- stations except public radio offerings.

Tell Me About It - I Live Beyond the AM/MW "HD" Radio
10 mv/m Contour and FM "HD" Radio 64 dbu Contour.
How Do You Spell "HD" Radio Out Here : NO SIGNAL !
and DROP-OUTS ! - {The Blinking Blue Light}

YES - Presently FM "HD" Radio has not 'found' a KILLER APP
for their HD-2 Digital Audio Streams.

- I have several co-workers who have and love their sat.
- receivers and the sound is much improved over so called
- HD-sound. I can enjoy listening to Sirius's offerings.

-IF- XM and SIRIUS Satellite Radio is Your Thing - Enjoy It !

- I used to listen to a AM-stereo station that to my ears
- almost matched the fidelity of the FM stations. Now that
- it switched to the HD broadcast it sounds like listening to
- the MUSZAC offerings while being put on hold on the
- telephone on my analog receiver.

Yes - AM "HD" Radio presently has both Audio Processing
{Sound Quality just Does Not Sound Right} Problems which
can be Fixed and Co-Channel Interference Problems which
Only will be Fixed {Masked} by Consumers Using new "HD"
Radios versus older Analog Radios; at least in Metro Areas
where the "HD" Radio Signals are Strong and the vast majority
of Radio Listeners are listening to 'Local' Radio Stations.

Once Again Reality Sucks : The Technical Solution to the
Interference heard by most AM/MW Analog Radio Listeners
is a 'New' "HD" {IBOC" Radio. It's Digital Technology functions
in a manner that allows for a 'cleaner' Digital Signal to be
Heard then the 'dirty' Analog Signal that IBOC Creates.

OOPS ! - Another one of "HD" Radios 'dirty' Little Secrets :
As more AM/MW & FM Radio Listeners {Audio Consumers}
start to experience IBOC Interference on their old Analog
AM/FM Radios : They will be told to Up-Grade to newer
"HD" Radios and that will solve their Problems : And It Will
-if- They Live in Metro Areas with Good Local Reception
-and- They Only Listening to 'Local' Radio Stations in their
Area.

These Local Area AM/FM Radio Listeners : Who Do In-Fact
Simply Listen To Local AM/FM Radio are the Vast Majority
of Radio's Audio Consumers and most likely add-up-to 95.5%
of all Radio Listeners Nation-Wide in the USA. Even -if-
the number was 68.3% that would mean that 2-out-of-3 of
American Radio's Audio Consumers would be better served
by "HD" Radio. {At Least on Paper} This is what the Radio
Broadcast Industry {Corporate Media} is Selling and the FCC
is Buying into with iBiquity IBOC Scheme.

- The Sangean cannot decode the HD content at all and the
- analog portion is also much like my previous description
- of auto receiver.

I don't have an Answer for either.

- There is nothing currently on local radio especially HD
- to me spring for a new HD receiver.

IMHO - That would be a Good Short Term (1~3 Year) Decision;
and during that time frame XM or SIRIUS Satellite Radio may
be your easier Audio Consumer 'Choice'.

Ken I.

(OT) : "HD" Radios ! - The Un-Qualified Comments by a
Simple Consumer of 'Free' Over-the-Air AM & FM Radio
http://groups.google.com/group/hd-ra...065b770e048027