IBOC : Wishing That IBOC Will Fail : Ain't Going to Make IBOC Fail
http://groups.google.com/group/hd-ra...d06d283fd82571

On Feb 18, 6:18 am, Steve wrote:
Point-of-Fact : Consumers Are Buying "HD" Radios !
- How Is This Bad News For "HD" Radio ?
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...f1ead84fa7501e
- - On Feb 18, 2:08 am, RHF wrote:

- S N I P -

- - Steve - I don't have to be For -or- Against Something
- - to Honestly Evaluate It. Wishing that IBOC and "HD"
- - Radio will Fail : Ain't Gona Make It Fail.

- No, but I get the sense that you are wanting to promote
- HD radio simply because you're posting about it here,
- on a shortwave group.

Actually from a Google perspective this Message Thread
begain with the Post by IBOCcrock :
"Consumers, Wall Street Not Buying HD!"
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...5cef54a0f5da19

IBOCcrock has Posted around 750+ Messages related
to IBOC, and may be about 250 of those Messages that
He has Originated were about IBOC with an Anti-IBOC
Theme / Slant.

BUT ONE DARES TO CRITICIZE HIM FOR DOING SO
-because- Even though IBOC Ain't Shortwave Radio almost
Everyone here on Rec.Radio.Shortwave Newsgroup just
Loves-to-Hate IBOC "HD" Radio -because- It Does Destroy
Much of What is Left of AM/MW Radio DXing.

=But= Wishing that IBOC will Fail* : Ain't Going to Make
IBOC Fail +plus+ As others here have stated the is
Significant Radio Broadcaster $upport at the Corporate
Media Level for IBOC and the FCC $upports IBOC too.
* Hard to Fail when both Corporate Dollar$ and the US
Government Dollar$ are behind IBOC "HD" Radio.

- That's your prerogative, but I personally don't get it.

I Don't Have To Like It {Yes IMHO IBOC $ucks} :
To-Get-It ! {IBOC Most Likely Is Here To $tay}

- - IBOCcrock presented some 'numbers' and claimed
- - that those 'numbers' met that IBOC "HD" Radio is
- - Doomed to Failure : Those same Numbers can Mean
- - a Slow and Steady Growth for IBOC "HD" Radio for a
- - Decade of more. -ps- You don't have to like the Numbers
- - to give them an Honest Look.

- Giving the numbers an honest look means looking at more
- than the numbers themselves. It means looking at the
- development of Wimax and the fate (good or bad) of satellite
- radio. It means looking at the fact that HD doesn't address
- any of the real (i.e., programming) problems that explain the
- current sad state of much commercial broadcast radio.

I simply presented a Set-of-Numbers {a possibility} that
-if- they occured could show a slow progressive time-line
to the Public Acceptance of IBOC "HD" Radio as a
Transitional Evolution from Analog Broadcastion to Digital
Broadcasting in the same sort of disorderly process that
marked the change of from AM {Only} Radios to AM/FM
Radios and the follow-on change from AM/FM Radios to
AM/FM-Stereo Radios and the Oops of AM-Stereo Radio.
[ Things Happen -and- Not Necessarily for Good Reasons. ]

-ps- History Often Repeats Itself and this Time Radio
Broadcasters at the Corporate Media Level and the FCC
at the Federal Government Level are Helping IBOC "HD"
Radio along like they never did for : FM Radio; FM-Stereo
Radio; and they seem to have learned the Lesson of the
Failed AM-Stereo Radio.

- If broadcasters had vision, we wouldn't even need to be
- talking about HD.

What they may lack in "The Vision Thing" (1) they make up for in
the Economic Interest (2) and Public Image Making Thing (3)
along with Capital Resources (4) and their Political Muscle (5).
[ Four-out-of-Five Ain't Bad = $U¢¢E$$]

On Feb 18, 6:42*pm, RHF wrote:


- Giving the numbers an honest look means looking at more
- than the numbers themselves. *It means looking at the
- development of Wimax and the fate (good or bad) of satellite
- radio. It means looking at the fact that HD doesn't address
- any of the real (i.e., programming) problems that explain the
- current sad state of much commercial broadcast radio.

I simply presented a Set-of-Numbers {a possibility} that
-if- they occured could show a slow progressive time-line
to the Public Acceptance of IBOC "HD" Radio as a
Transitional Evolution from Analog Broadcastion to Digital
Broadcasting in the same sort of disorderly process that
marked the change of from AM {Only} Radios to AM/FM
Radios and the follow-on change from AM/FM Radios to
AM/FM-Stereo Radios and the Oops of AM-Stereo Radio.
[ Things Happen -and- Not Necessarily for Good Reasons. ]


Well, you can extend the series still further and eventually you'll
have more HD radios being sold each year than can fit within the
confines of the earth and its atmosphere; but I just don't think it's
gonna happen.

-ps- History Often Repeats Itself and this Time Radio
Broadcasters at the Corporate Media Level and the FCC
at the Federal Government Level are Helping IBOC "HD"
Radio along like they never did for : FM Radio; FM-Stereo
Radio; and they seem to have learned the Lesson of the
Failed AM-Stereo Radio.

- If broadcasters had vision, we wouldn't even need to be
- talking about HD.

What they may lack in "The Vision Thing" (1) they make up for in
the Economic Interest (2) and Public Image Making Thing (3)
along with Capital Resources (4) and their Political Muscle (5).
[ Four-out-of-Five Ain't Bad = $U¢¢E$$]


If success here means a quick, short term profit for the parties whose
necks are most on the line, then sure. If it means anything more than
that, no way. And I guess this is frequently what results when vision
is lacking.

What's going to be interesting is to see where the "vision" is with
other, alternative media. Long after people have ceased thinking about
or even remembering HD radio, what will pique their interest and
capture their imaginations? Darn, where did I put that crystal ball?

IBOC : Part 2 - Wishing That IBOC Will Fail :
Ain't Going to Make IBOC Fail
http://groups.google.com/group/hd-ra...bf7078e60a9220

On Feb 19, 3:53*am, RHF wrote:
IBOC : Part 2 - Wishing That IBOC Will Fail :
Ain't Going to Make IBOC Failhttp://groups.google.com/group/hd-radio/msg/06bf7078e60a9220
*.
yes - it's about iboc 'hd' radio ~ RHF
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*.
BE ADVISED - Starting Next Monday, 25 Feruary 2008
The Complete Text All of My Replies to these IBOC
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Newsgroup on Google. *The only thing that you will see
here is the Subject Line Title and a Link to the Posted
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PLUS - There will be an "IBOC" at the Start of My IBOC Posts
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On Feb 18, 9:23*pm, Steve wrote:http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...f4c8b81051ee67

- Well, you can extend the series still further and eventually
- you'll have more HD radios being sold each year than can
- fit within the confines of the earth and its atmosphere; but
- I just don't think it's gonna happen.

Dang you read my Play Book -and- As a Matter-of-Fact :
The Earth Itself will be make entirely of "HD" Radios.

- If success here means a quick, short term profit for the
- parties whose necks are most on the line, then sure.

Like Tomorrow - Future Profits are Promised To No One.

Promised, no; but they'll certainly be collected by someone.


- If it means anything more than that, no way.

time will tell - Yes Only Time Will Tell !

- And I guess this is frequently what results
- when vision is lacking.

I Trust that the Radio People : Know the Radio Business.
Some Do It Well and naturally some do it poorly.

Their Challenge is to Leverage their current Media
Market Position and Capital Investment -into- a
Future diversified Pan-Media Market Position and
secure their Capital Investment across a broader
array of Media Ventures {Stay In Business}.

- What's going to be interesting is to see where the
- "vision" is with other, alternative media.

That is something that I do not focus on.

Understood, but I suspect we're in agreement that they'll have a
significant impact.


- Long after people have ceased thinking about or
- even remembering HD radio, what will pique their
- interest and capture their imaginations?

Ah - You have 'interests' beyond mine. - Alas I am
simply a Consumer of "Free" Over-the-Air AM & FM
Radio and nothing more.

You're not even *interested* in the things that will shape the future
of radio? This leaves me unsure what you are interested in....