On Feb 19, 11:33 am, Steve wrote:
On Feb 19, 11:18 am, IBOCcrock wrote:





On Feb 19, 7:56 am, dave wrote:

If any of you doubt that the FCC wants to kill free radio, read on:

"Analyst: XM+Sirius+HD is likely.
Stifel Nicolaus analyst Blair Levin thinks it's likely the FCC will
require such a mandate as part of its approval of the deal, as well as a
requirement that any new receivers include terrestrial HD capabilities.
Meanwhile, U.S. Electronics is pushing the FCC to hold a summit among a
number of parties citing a "newly emerged consensus" that a combined
XM-Sirius be required to make their receiver technology "open" allowing
more choices for consumers. Among those backing the requirement are
iBiquity and the HD Digital Radio Alliance."

--insideradio

"Satellite Radio Facing Bankruptcy?"

"Satellite radio companies have been suffering heavy losses - and
plunging stock prices - even as they continue to add subscribers. And
a front-page story in Tuesday's Wall Street Journal warns that the
worst may be yet to come... Industry leader XM Satellite Radio
Holdings Inc. lost $667 million last year, and rival Sirius Satellite
Radio Inc. lost $863 million. The big losses have shaken investor
confidence in the industry. XM shares have lost 71 percent of their
value this year, and Sirius shares have lost 51 percent... For one
thing, a substantial number of people who buy vehicles with pre-
installed satellite radios don't activate them, nor do many who
receive a radio as a gift. It's estimated that 10 percent of all store-
bought radios given as gifts during the last holiday season were never
activated. Also, those who do subscribe often abandon the service
after a period of time, some switching to iPod adapters to provide
music in their vehicle."

http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/...5/175258.shtml

Satrad is a bust.

Things are looking mighty good for Wimax.- Hide quoted text -

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"Chrysler to put WiMax into its cars"

Recommend articleetroit (MI) - Chrysler is working on what the
company calls "advanced in-vehicle wireless communications" that will
be based on cellular, Wi-Fi and WiMax technologies.

Chrysler may have been a bit slow adopting electronic gadgets for its
vehicles in the past few years, but the company plans to be on the
forefront when the next wireless technology is rolled out.

"We recognize that customers are spending more and more time in their
vehicles, and that the automobile is becoming much like an additional
room in the home or office," said Frank Klegon, executive vice
president for product development at Chrysler. "To address this
evolving reality, Chrysler vehicles will soon boast an unprecedented
level of vehicle connectivity, delivering a wide array of important
communications features directly to our customers, in their vehicles."
Chrysler believes that wireless connectivity will also increase the
security of cars.

In fact, specifically the intent to integrate WiMax into cars comes
very early, even before the technology has become generally available
to business and home users.

So, what exactly is WiMax expected to bring to the driver and
passengers of a car? Of course, general availability and a greater
bandwidth than cellphone networks makes this technology an attractive
tool to increase data communication: Chrysler envisions that future
GPS systems will feature satellite imagery downloaded from the
Internet as well as automatic wireless map updates, real time weather
information. Downloads to in-car entertainment centers can also
include service reminders, Internet search, e-mail access, and online
shopping - which will include the availability of fee-based multimedia
content. On the service side, an always-on broadband connection could
be used to download software patches to virtually any electronic
module in a car.

"Chrysler's in-vehicle communications strategy will continue to focus
on creating a safe-driving environment through practical innovations,
while enabling customers to choose a variety of features they want,"
said Klegon.
"Chrysler's connectivity solutions will deliver simplicity, security,
freedom and flexibility," the executive promised.

He said that Chrysler, Dodge and Jeep vehicles will be getting WiMax
connectivity "over the next few years."

WiMax services are expected to be rolled out in the U.S. this year.

http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/35601/145/

The other automakers will have to follow-suit - then, satrad and HD
will have no chanvce.

On Feb 19, 7:56*am, dave wrote:
If any of you doubt that the FCC wants to kill free radio, read on:

"Analyst: XM+Sirius+HD is likely.
Stifel Nicolaus analyst Blair Levin thinks it's likely the FCC will
require such a mandate as part of its approval of the deal, as well as a
requirement that any new receivers include terrestrial HD capabilities.
Meanwhile, U.S. Electronics is pushing the FCC to hold a summit among a
number of parties citing a "newly emerged consensus" that a combined
XM-Sirius be required to make their receiver technology "open" allowing
more choices for consumers. Among those backing the requirement are
iBiquity and the HD Digital Radio Alliance."

--insideradio

You stupid ass - they are talking about new interoperable satrad
receivers to include HD Radio, not regular analog radios!

On Feb 19, 7:56*am, dave wrote:
If any of you doubt that the FCC wants to kill free radio, read on:

"Analyst: XM+Sirius+HD is likely.
Stifel Nicolaus analyst Blair Levin thinks it's likely the FCC will
require such a mandate as part of its approval of the deal, as well as a
requirement that any new receivers include terrestrial HD capabilities.
Meanwhile, U.S. Electronics is pushing the FCC to hold a summit among a
number of parties citing a "newly emerged consensus" that a combined
XM-Sirius be required to make their receiver technology "open" allowing
more choices for consumers. Among those backing the requirement are
iBiquity and the HD Digital Radio Alliance."

--insideradio

"HD Radio is trying to kill the wrong technology"

From today's news:

WASHINGTON -- January 29, 2008: HD Radio developer iBiquity Digital
asked in an earlier ex parte filing with the FCC that a merged XM
Satellite Radio and Sirius Satellite Radio be required to include HD
Radio technology in all satellite radio receivers, and now the HD
Digital Radio Alliance has made a filing with the FCC in support of
that request.
(Isn't this old news?)

The FCC will never, ever do this, of course. You could file all day
and in a rainbow of colors and it won't make a difference.

When push comes to shove, this merger will be going through. And it
will go through without a "tip of the hat" towards HD radio. But as
symbolism goes, it's symbolically symbolic.

Satellite radio is making it tough for HD to find a spot on the
dashboard, the argument of the HD radio folks goes, which is probably
true.

But what's more true is that the presence of terrestrial radio is
really what makes a spot for HD impossible on that same dash.

Get this straight: HD is viewed as redundant to radio. It is the
current AM/FM bands that are hogging the spot in which a newfangled HD
radio would otherwise sit.

The HD folks are trying to kill the wrong technology.

http://www.hear2.com/2008/01/hd-radio-is-try.html

"dave" wrote in message
...
If any of you doubt that the FCC wants to kill free radio, read on:

"Analyst: XM+Sirius+HD is likely.
Stifel Nicolaus analyst Blair Levin thinks it's likely the FCC will
require such a mandate as part of its approval of the deal, as well as a
requirement that any new receivers include terrestrial HD capabilities.
Meanwhile, U.S. Electronics is pushing the FCC to hold a summit among a
number of parties citing a "newly emerged consensus" that a combined
XM-Sirius be required to make their receiver technology "open" allowing
more choices for consumers. Among those backing the requirement are
iBiquity and the HD Digital Radio Alliance."

--insideradio

Since the article starts with the pending approval of the XM-Sirius merger,
I suppose it could just mean that all new satellite radio receivers might be
required to also carry HD radio.

US Electronics is clearly talking about satellite radio.

Frank Dresser

FD,

Flip-Flop That Idea - All AM/FM Radios would be Digital {IBOC}
and like the Eton E1-XM Radio be built to Accept an external
http://www.universal-radio.com/catal.../0101vlrg.html
Plug-and-Play Direct Satellite (DS) Radio Module containing
the 'optional' Tuner-Antenna; for those who would wish to
buy one and Subscribe to a Direct Satellite (DS) Radio Service.

THUS - The All Digital Mode AM/FM/DS Radio -or-
more precisely the : All Digital Mode AM/FM+DS Radio.

Once the Direct Satellite (DS) Uniform Interface is designed
and "Standardized" for the new All Digital Mode AM/FM/DS
Radio : Anyone could go into the Direct Satellite (DS)
http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/...e-radio-xm.gif
Broadcasting business with a Rented Satellite and Sell
Modules for under $50 or give-them-away for a Two Year
http://www.gosatellite.net/images_te...ctandplay2.jpg
$ubscription like they do with Celphones.

Hell ! - AT&T could get into the Direct Satellite (DS) Radio
business as a side-line to their current Celphone business.

Walking Into any RadioShack and what do they offer
you a "Free" Direct Satellite Plug-and-Play Module
http://tinyurl.com/ysqnnm
with every Two Year $ubscription to 'their' very own
Direct Satellite (DS) RadioShack Network.

A Revolution in Audio Content Delivery May Be in the Making :
http://groups.google.com/group/hd-ra...a8d6de046fe486
The new All Digital Mode AM/FM/DS Radio 'Standard' may
in-fact "Open-Up" a new Digital Delivery 'Venue' for the more
traditional Terrestrial based AM/FM Radio Broadcasters.

Even specialised Radio Networks like EWTN [Catholic Radio}
along with CBN, TBS, etc could get into their very own Direct
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religio...#United_States
Satellite (DS) Radio distribution system with the introduction
of the new All Digital Mode AM/FM/DS Radio 'Standard'.

yes - the times they are a changing and it may
soon be an all digital mode radio world ~ RHF

I buy my radios real cheap at the thrift stores.I know many of them are
collectible radios and I know, as long as I live, they will never show
on cheatem and beatem and screem ebay!
cuhulin

Frank Dresser wrote:
"dave" wrote in message
...
If any of you doubt that the FCC wants to kill free radio, read on:

"Analyst: XM+Sirius+HD is likely.
Stifel Nicolaus analyst Blair Levin thinks it's likely the FCC will
require such a mandate as part of its approval of the deal, as well as a
requirement that any new receivers include terrestrial HD capabilities.
Meanwhile, U.S. Electronics is pushing the FCC to hold a summit among a
number of parties citing a "newly emerged consensus" that a combined
XM-Sirius be required to make their receiver technology "open" allowing
more choices for consumers. Among those backing the requirement are
iBiquity and the HD Digital Radio Alliance."

--insideradio

Since the article starts with the pending approval of the XM-Sirius merger,
I suppose it could just mean that all new satellite radio receivers might be
required to also carry HD radio.

US Electronics is clearly talking about satellite radio.

Frank Dresser


The marriage of an until now 100% "free" medium, in digital form that
supports conditional access, with 100% pay media; coupled with the plan
to increase digital carriers by a factor of 10; presages a 100%
subscriber based model, once the analog carriers are shut off.