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David Eduardo wrote:
"IBOCcrock" wrote in message
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On Feb 22, 4:20?pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"IBOCcrock" wrote in message

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On Feb 22, 2:51?pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:

http://www.rwonline.com/showsthe cover of the current Radio World
magazine, where the lead article is about the Samsung chip, built around
a
SHDR100A peripheral processor and the SDHR200A main processor and flash
and
RAM memory and which is currently available. The article discusses the
power
requirements and all kinds of other HD developments shown at CES,
including
the SiPort chip, which is also available to manufacturers now. Both
consume
between 120 and 180 mW of power. Both chips are intended for integrated
devices.
If you qualify for an online subscription, you can read the entire
article.
"Don''t be put off by high power drain"

None of the receivers with these new chips is even shipping, you idiot.

The article was about DAB receivers, not HD Radio receivers, you idiot!

It is about HD chips, HD receivers and the integration of HD into
multipurpose devices. There is no DAB band nor DAB stations in the US. The
article mentioned that the chips could integrate DRM, DAB, HD and other
devices for the international market


One of the turning points on the way to the demise of traditional
broadcasting in the USA was the NAB's flat refusal to adopt Eureka 147
because legacy stations would lose their higher-power legacy facilities
and AM would have equal footing with FM.

Since then, Sirius and XM filled the void. Radio has been bleeding red
ever since.

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David Eduardo wrote:
"Telamon" wrote in message
...
You obviously know less about component marketing than you pretend to
know.
Really? What have I written that shows you I don't know what I write
about here?

This article was written last spring 3/1/07. Everything written is being
proposed about the "chip".

Radio World is the authoritative technical publication for broadcasting, and
has been for some time. If their reporters say they saw the chip working in
a prototype, the chip exists and works. If they say it is shipping, it´s
shipping.

References to a TI project that did not develop several years ago are
irrelevant and an attempt to obfuscate.


The point is it is not going to be in mobile phones, Walkmans, MP3
players, or any other truly portable device until they figure out how to
decode the mess efficiently. This won't happen until demand reaches a
critical mass, which won't happen without mobile devices. I can buy a
radio for around a buck that'll tune AM/FM and run for several days on a
single AA battery.

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David Eduardo wrote:
"Telamon" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
...
You obviously know less about component marketing than you pretend to
know.
Really? What have I written that shows you I don't know what I write
about here?

This article was written last spring 3/1/07. Everything written is
being
proposed about the "chip".
Radio World is the authoritative technical publication for broadcasting,
and
has been for some time. If their reporters say they saw the chip working
in
a prototype, the chip exists and works. If they say it is shipping, it´s
shipping.

References to a TI project that did not develop several years ago are
irrelevant and an attempt to obfuscate.
There is nothing on the SiPort or Sansung web sites to indicate that a
"chip" that has been developed or shipping. There is nothing on the
Radio World web site to indicate that they saw a prototype working. All
statements I have read on the Radio World web site were promotional
forward looking statements.

The website has little abstracts of the magazine content, but to get the
full magazine, you have to qualify. Get the magazine if you can. It answers
all your questions.
Now I want a link or a quote to the contrary otherwise shut the hell up.
I'm not taking your word for it. It is put up or shut up time Eduardo.


No, it's time for you to stop objecting to every piece of evidence by asking
for more evidence or by disbelieving actual facts. Radio World is the
journal of record for radio broadcast engineering. If you are so
insignificant as to not even be able to obtain the magazine, that's not my
problem.

All the information about HD developments shown at the CES are in Radio
World, in an edition with several lengthy articles about HD developments
that is so extensive that it discusses the power requirements of each of the
chips in different operating situations.


http://www.eetimes.com/TechSearch/Se...&Search=Search

A search here reveals no revolutionary developments in the HD Radio/IBOC
chip universe.

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David Eduardo wrote:


It's copyright. Quoting the entire article, which is three pages long, would
be illegal. That may not bother you, but I am in the industry and there is
both a legal and ethical issue there. I'm surprised you even suggest it, but
it confirms my impression of you.

Oh, pu-lease...

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dave wrote:

David Eduardo wrote:
"Telamon" wrote in message

...
In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message

...
You obviously know less about component marketing than you pretend to
know.
Really? What have I written that shows you I don't know what I write
about here?

This article was written last spring 3/1/07. Everything written is
being
proposed about the "chip".
Radio World is the authoritative technical publication for
broadcasting, and
has been for some time. If their reporters say they saw the chip
working in
a prototype, the chip exists and works. If they say it is shipping,
it´s shipping.

References to a TI project that did not develop several years ago are
irrelevant and an attempt to obfuscate.
There is nothing on the SiPort or Sansung web sites to indicate that a
"chip" that has been developed or shipping. There is nothing on the
Radio World web site to indicate that they saw a prototype working. All
statements I have read on the Radio World web site were promotional
forward looking statements.

The website has little abstracts of the magazine content, but to get the
full magazine, you have to qualify. Get the magazine if you can. It
answers all your questions.
Now I want a link or a quote to the contrary otherwise shut the hell up.
I'm not taking your word for it. It is put up or shut up time Eduardo.


No, it's time for you to stop objecting to every piece of evidence by
asking for more evidence or by disbelieving actual facts. Radio World is
the journal of record for radio broadcast engineering. If you are so
insignificant as to not even be able to obtain the magazine, that's not
my problem.

All the information about HD developments shown at the CES are in Radio
World, in an edition with several lengthy articles about HD developments
that is so extensive that it discusses the power requirements of each of
the chips in different operating situations.



http://www.eetimes.com/TechSearch/Se...&Search=Search

A search here reveals no revolutionary developments in the HD Radio/IBOC
chip universe.

Using the right search criteria ("digital radio")can lead you to this
article.
http://www.eetimes.com/showArticle.j...leID=205205995
Note the reference to Samsung in the article.

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On Feb 23, 1:48�am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Telamon" wrote in message

....





In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
...

You obviously know less about component marketing than you pretend to
know.

Really? What have I written that shows you I don't know what I write
about here?

This article was written last spring 3/1/07. Everything written is
being
proposed about the "chip".

Radio World is the authoritative technical publication for broadcasting,
and
has been for some time. If their reporters say they saw the chip working
in
a prototype, the chip exists and works. If they say it is shipping, it�s
shipping.

References to a TI project that did not develop several years ago are
irrelevant and an attempt to obfuscate.

There is nothing on the SiPort or Sansung web sites to indicate that a
"chip" that has been developed or shipping. There is nothing on the
Radio World web site to indicate that they saw a prototype working. All
statements I have read on the Radio World web site were promotional
forward looking statements.

The website has little abstracts of the magazine content, but to get the
full magazine, you have to qualify. Get the magazine if you can. It answers
all your questions.



Now I want a link or a quote to the contrary otherwise shut the hell up.
I'm not taking your word for it. It is put up or shut up time Eduardo.

No, it's time for you to stop objecting to every piece of evidence by asking
for more evidence or by disbelieving actual facts. Radio World is the
journal of record for radio broadcast engineering. If you are so
insignificant as to not even be able to obtain the magazine, that's not my
problem.

All the information about HD developments shown at the CES are in Radio
World, in an edition with several lengthy articles about HD developments
that is so extensive that it discusses the power requirements of each of the
chips in different operating situations.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

No one cares about the empty HD developements and vaporwear HD
chipsets that no one except a few loser MP3 and cell phone companies
will care about. Steve Jobs doesn't want it and his iPod makes up 80 -
90% of the MP3 players. LOL!

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On Feb 22, 9:33�pm, Telamon
wrote:
In article ,
�"David Eduardo" wrote:

http://www.rwonline.com/shows the cover of the current Radio World
magazine, where the lead article is about the Samsung chip, built around a
SHDR100A peripheral processor and the SDHR200A main processor and flash and
RAM memory and which is currently available. The article discusses the power
requirements and all kinds of other HD developments shown at CES, including
the SiPort chip, which is also available to manufacturers now. Both consume
between 120 and 180 mW of power. Both chips are intended for integrated
devices.

If you qualify for an online subscription, you can read the entire article.

I looked at the SiPort web page and the company is just a shell company
composed of management types. The news and events page just states "stay
tuned." This has not changed since last spring when I looked them up.
http://www.siport.com/news.htm

I can only find two Radio World articles about them from last spring and
one even older article about them here from 2005, which is a press
release from the CEO.
http://www.intelportfolio.com/CPS/CoProfile.aspx?co_id=962

The Samsung semiconductor web page does not have these part numbers. The
prefix does not appear to be a part of their part numbering scheme. Try
your luck here and let me know if you find anything.
http://www.samsung.com/global/busine...ctsearch/param
etricsearch/ProductSearch_ParametricSearch_List.html

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

No peeps out of SiPort - I think this is all a farce by Struble to
keep this dead-horse technology limping along.

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On Feb 22, 11:13�pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"IBOCcrock" wrote in message

...
On Feb 22, 4:20?pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:





"IBOCcrock" wrote in message

...
On Feb 22, 2:51?pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:

http://www.rwonline.com/showsthecover of the current Radio World
magazine, where the lead article is about the Samsung chip, built around
a
SHDR100A peripheral processor and the SDHR200A main processor and flash
and
RAM memory and which is currently available. The article discusses the
power
requirements and all kinds of other HD developments shown at CES,
including
the SiPort chip, which is also available to manufacturers now. Both
consume
between 120 and 180 mW of power. Both chips are intended for integrated
devices.

If you qualify for an online subscription, you can read the entire
article.

"Don''t be put off by high power drain"

None of the receivers with these new chips is even shipping, you idiot.
The article was about DAB receivers, not HD Radio receivers, you idiot!

It is about HD chips, HD receivers and the integration of HD into
multipurpose devices. There is no DAB band nor DAB stations in the US. The
article mentioned that the chips could integrate DRM, DAB, HD and other
devices for the international market- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

These chips are vaporwear, Eduardo! And, no one is going to want these
battery-hogs, anyway!

IBOC : For Telamon - About The Samsung "HD" Radio Chip
 

On Feb 23, 4:44�am, RHF wrote:
On Feb 22, 10:42�pm, Telamon





wrote:
In article ,
�"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
...

You obviously know less about component marketing than you pretend to
know.

Really? What have I written that shows you I don't know what I write
about here?

This article was written last spring 3/1/07. Everything written is being
proposed about the "chip".

Radio World is the authoritative technical publication for broadcasting, and
has been for some time. If their reporters say they saw the chip working in
a prototype, the chip exists and works. If they say it is shipping, it�s
shipping.

References to a TI project that did not develop several years ago are
irrelevant and an attempt to obfuscate.

There is nothing on the SiPort or Sansung web sites to indicate that a
"chip" that has been developed or shipping. There is nothing on the
Radio World web site to indicate that they saw a prototype working. All
statements I have read on the Radio World web site were promotional
forward looking statements.

- Now I want a link or a quote to the contrary
- otherwise shut the hell up.
- I'm not taking your word for it.
- It is put up or shut up time Eduardo.
-
- --
- Telamon
- Ventura, California

Telamon,

1 - Your 'attempt to be Bombastic* here does nothing to Advance
your Arguement. [ Makes you sound like the loser. ]

* An Agressive Emotional Reaction -when- Confronted with Facts.

2 - Plus it Helps to make d'Eduardo appear to be more Creditable.
[ Makes him 'sound' like he is Winning. ]

just trying to be helpful ~ RHF
�.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

You're the pot calling the kettle black!

For Telamon
 

On Feb 22, 2:51�pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
http://www.rwonline.com/shows the cover of the current Radio World
magazine, where the lead article is about the Samsung chip, built around a
SHDR100A peripheral processor and the SDHR200A main processor and flash and
RAM memory and which is currently available. The article discusses the power
requirements and all kinds of other HD developments shown at CES, including
the SiPort chip, which is also available to manufacturers now. Both consume
between 120 and 180 mW of power. Both chips are intended for integrated
devices.

If you qualify for an online subscription, you can read the entire article..

"XM receivers have DACs and use less than 10 mA."

Ha! Ha! He shut you up, Eduardo! You should have never started this
thread!