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Telamon February 24th 08 06:09 AM

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"David Eduardo" wrote:

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"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
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What's up Eduardo. Where are those quotes from Radio World?

I'm still waiting for those quotes Eduardo. Come on key clown get with
it. If you have time to post your life story you have time to back up
your claims but you won't do it because you can't.

Man, it's a real battle between RFI and Eduardo this week.

I told you that msg had already posted sufficiently data for you to have
to
retract all your silly insults and denials.


OK if you can't back it up just say so.


I can, when I get back to my desk. My itinerary is HOU, MIA, ORD, SJU, JFK,
LA. In the meantime, I posted msg's link and fair use posting so you can
print it and stuff it down your throat.


I already responded to it and it when down your throat. How did it taste?

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

D Peter Maus February 24th 08 06:12 AM

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David Eduardo wrote:

Funny. My BMW came with HD. BMW is German, in case you are so clueless as to
not know.





And yet, built in Spartanburg, North Carolina. Go figure.



m II February 24th 08 06:26 AM

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dxAcehole, Supreme Commander United Michigan Militias (S.C.U.M.M.) and
wrote:

Sorry folks, couldn't resist!


You lying prick.


========================================
I really don't want to say this, my many shortwave friends, but I find
that I am giving up far to much of my increasingly valuable time here
on RRS trying to educate the faux, the debutantes, and those who tote..

Therefore, I've simply decided to give up RRS.

Goodbye, I sincerely hope that you all find your niche in the world of SW.

dxAce
Michigan
USA
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David Eduardo[_4_] February 24th 08 07:25 AM

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"D Peter Maus" wrote in message
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David Eduardo wrote:

Funny. My BMW came with HD. BMW is German, in case you are so clueless as
to not know.





And yet, built in Spartanburg, North Carolina. Go figure.


Only the X5 and, I guess, the X3. 3 series, Z, built in Germany.



dave February 24th 08 03:46 PM

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Telamon wrote:
In article ,
dave wrote:

Telamon wrote:
In article ,
dave wrote:

craigm wrote:


Looks to me like the Samsung chipset is klunky compared to the competitor:

"...Samsung's HD Radio baseband processor, based on Tensilica's
programmable core, integrates the baseband, memory, SDRAM and flash in a
system-in-package measuring 9 x 9 mm. Including the companion RF chip,
the chip set's total power consumption is 150 mW...

...Sunder Velamuri, vice president of marketing at SiPort, said power
dissipation of the mixed-signal device is expected to be "around 100 mW
in typical configurations." He added that the chip, essentially "a
software radio," can tune and demodulate not only analog AM/FM and HD
Radio but also DAB and DMB-T, making it ready for the global market.
Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Co. is fabricating the device..."
There are no chips developed for HD radio. Sansung and TI have some
years old notes on how you can use a set of their respective general
purpose chips DSP/CPU and analog baseband devices to make an HD radio.
For these parts to work as an HD radio they need additional support
devices and the license to use the ibiquity software. A lot of power
must be used to drive all this.

That's not what it says. It says it uses ca. 100 mW in "typical
configurations". It says it "can tune and demodulate" so I would think
any "additional support devices" wouldn't be that big a deal.


Maybe you should take a look at the proposed block diagrams before you
open your mouth and the specifications I read were 500 mW not 100 mW.


I just read the quote provided. Thanks for the obsessive behavior.

dave February 24th 08 03:49 PM

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msg wrote:
Telamon wrote:

In article ,
msg wrote:


David Eduardo wrote:

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As unbelievable as it may seem, not everything is on the Internet.

snip

In fact, since the dot com bubble burst, there has been a major
decline in the availability of technical material on the 'Net


snip

SNIP

I'm not sure what it is you are addressing here but the subject is
what is available from the semiconductor web sites. I can tell you for
a fact that any manufacturer out there recognizes the benefit of
getting their products on their web sites.


Try getting NXP (ex Philips) to understand that ;-(


For chips that actually exist you can find its full specifications,
application notes, and if it has a complex or difficult implementation
it will have a reference design that some application engineer put
together. And of course you find news like when samples will be
available and when production will commence.


Again, it very much depends on your choice of vendor; some have websites
that are truly impenetrable. I find myself going first to
datasheetarchive.com
nowadays. And when I design with 'mature' devices, I can forget most
manufacturer's
websites as a first choice; the chips 'exist'; it is just that the vendor
has chosen to make using them difficult.

In my previous post I was bemoaning the elimination of mature software,
manuals
and datasheets that cost very little to host, which seems to be the result
of company business decisions and ownership changes, and also the loss
of many
private sites that used to mirror such materials -- gone for undocumented
reasons. As to new announcements, I used to get some 80 trade journals per
month (the bingo-card renewal process took a lot of time) and found that
I was better informed with the mass of paper than I have ever been on the
'net.

Michael

What worthy trade mags still lack an electronic edition?

dave February 24th 08 03:59 PM

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David Eduardo wrote:
"dave" wrote in message
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David Eduardo wrote:

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Anyone who wanted to see the chips working could at CES. Articles in paid
or controlled subscription magazines and newsletters have covered the
developments, including Inside Radio and Radio World. There is lots of
documentation, but all of it requires either going to CES or having
subscriptions to the publications; Inside Radio is about $400 a year, for
example.

The only people putting money into this turd are dinocasters and American
carmakers. That should tell you something.


Funny. My BMW came with HD. BMW is German, in case you are so clueless as to
not know.


You never miss an opportunity to tell us what kind of neo-rich guy
status symbols you have. We are not impressed. Classy money impresses
without spending excessive money. BMWs are crap (although this 300 HP
entry level rocket may change my opinion:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:B...C3%A9_Heck.JPG

)"

How big a piece of iBiquity does BMW own? How many $100s per radio is
iBiquity paying BMW to install the radio?

dave February 24th 08 04:01 PM

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David Eduardo wrote:
"dave" wrote in message
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David Eduardo wrote:
"dave" wrote in message
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David Eduardo wrote:
"dave" wrote in message
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One of the turning points on the way to the demise of traditional
broadcasting in the USA was the NAB's flat refusal to adopt Eureka 147
because legacy stations would lose their higher-power legacy
facilities and AM would have equal footing with FM.

Eureka did not even get to the NAB level; the band in the US is
reserved for military uses. It has failed miserably in canada, too.

Since then, Sirius and XM filled the void. Radio has been bleeding
red ever since.
No, satellite has been bleeding. Clear Channel had EBITDA of $1.8
billion last year while the satellite companies collectively lost $1.6
billion.

Radio billings were up 2% last year.
Everybody's bleeding 'cept for me and my monkey.
No, you are just lying and making up statistics that do not exist.
Billing back to the 60's is on the RAB website.

Y'all are bleeding audience, if not cash. How much of that CCU figure was
TV? Outdoor? Attractions?


0% attractions which they spun off several years ago.

Radio is the largest part.

Go to the RAB website, and see the billing figures for the last nearly 60
years.

AM radio is losing audience, as few new listeners come in. FM is at
approximately the same levels as 10, 15, 20 years ago.



If FM is the same, an AM is losing audience, then "radio" aka "AM/FM: is
losing audience. That has people in your business freaking-out.

dave February 24th 08 04:06 PM

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Telamon wrote:
In article
,
Telamon wrote:

In article
,
Telamon wrote:

In article ,
dave wrote:

David Eduardo wrote:
"dave" wrote in message
...
David Eduardo wrote:
"dave" wrote in message
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One of the turning points on the way to the demise of
traditional broadcasting in the USA was the NAB's flat refusal
to adopt Eureka 147 because legacy stations would lose their
higher-power legacy facilities and AM would have equal footing
with FM.

Eureka did not even get to the NAB level; the band in the US is
reserved for military uses. It has failed miserably in canada,
too.

Since then, Sirius and XM filled the void. Radio has been
bleeding red ever since.
No, satellite has been bleeding. Clear Channel had EBITDA of
$1.8 billion last year while the satellite companies
collectively lost $1.6 billion.

Radio billings were up 2% last year.
Everybody's bleeding 'cept for me and my monkey.
No, you are just lying and making up statistics that do not
exist. Billing back to the 60's is on the RAB website.


Y'all are bleeding audience, if not cash. How much of that CCU
figure was TV? Outdoor? Attractions?
What's up Eduardo. Where are those quotes from Radio World?

I'm still waiting for those quotes Eduardo. Come on key clown get with
it. If you have time to post your life story you have time to back up
your claims but you won't do it because you can't.

Man, it's a real battle between RFI and Eduardo this week.


Still waiting for those quotes Eduardo. If you got time to BS in other
threads you can post a quote backing up your claims.


Jeez! Give it up, willya? Did Ace send you some of his moonshine or
what...

dave February 24th 08 04:08 PM

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David Eduardo wrote:
"Telamon" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
...
What's up Eduardo. Where are those quotes from Radio World?
I'm still waiting for those quotes Eduardo. Come on key clown get with
it. If you have time to post your life story you have time to back up
your claims but you won't do it because you can't.

Man, it's a real battle between RFI and Eduardo this week.
I told you that msg had already posted sufficiently data for you to have
to
retract all your silly insults and denials.

OK if you can't back it up just say so.


I can, when I get back to my desk. My itinerary is HOU, MIA, ORD, SJU, JFK,
LA. In the meantime, I posted msg's link and fair use posting so you can
print it and stuff it down your throat.


They send you away for weeks at a time? BTW, did you mean LAX? Or BUR?


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