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Eduardo - fellow IBOC-shill diputes your claims about AM ratings.
Radio World to Ibiquity: Reconsider AM HD
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- It's akin to what's happening with the war in Iraq, as one former "cheerleader" of the cause after another changes their tune. One of the biggest cheerleaders of all things HD (and Ibiquity), Radio World Magazine, has, in an editorial in the latest issue, changed their mind about AM HD. They cite coverage issues (reports of people being able to see the damn tower(s), but not receive the signal), numerous stations which have abruptly stopped transmitting (AM) HD because of interference reports from neighboring stations, and studies which indicate that AM HD will turn the lucrative "cash cow" signals of 50kw flamethrower outlets owned by Clear Channel, Infinity, etc. into cash poor calves...with signals which are a shadow of their former selves. This last point, plus the fact that there is still no nighttime authorization for AM HD, is what Radio World believes is stalling adoption of AM HD even by the large broadcasters who have championed it. While lower power, local AM stations are in trouble, big-signal 50kw am outlets are anything but. They often dominate their markets, with more audience share and cash-flow than any fm music station. The idea of reducing coverage area (with increased interference...which is now no longer theory, but established in practice by several big-signal stations which have ceased HD operation) in order to present TALK programming in "HD" is quite nauseating to station owners. For these reasons, Radio World now urges Ibiquity to form an alliance with DRM (Digital Radio Mondiale), and rethink AM HD...choosing a system that's both more robust, AND causes less interference. Talk about an about face! (Observatons on the state of AM HD are those of Radio World, which I have paraphrased, not quoted...I don't have the editorial page in front of me. These are not my own opinions, as I still haven't heard AM HD.) http://archive2.avsforum.com/avs-vb/...d.php?t=771426 Eduardo - it's amazing your can even function, lugging around all of those bags of ****! |
Eduardo - fellow IBOC-shill diputes your claims about AM ratings.
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, gallant17 wrote: Radio World to Ibiquity: Reconsider AM HD ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ -- It's akin to what's happening with the war in Iraq, as one former "cheerleader" of the cause after another changes their tune. One of the biggest cheerleaders of all things HD (and Ibiquity), Radio World Magazine, has, in an editorial in the latest issue, changed their mind about AM HD. They cite coverage issues (reports of people being able to see the damn tower(s), but not receive the signal), numerous stations which have abruptly stopped transmitting (AM) HD because of interference reports from neighboring stations, and studies which indicate that AM HD will turn the lucrative "cash cow" signals of 50kw flamethrower outlets owned by Clear Channel, Infinity, etc. into cash poor calves...with signals which are a shadow of their former selves. This last point, plus the fact that there is still no nighttime authorization for AM HD, is what Radio World believes is stalling adoption of AM HD even by the large broadcasters who have championed it. Yeah they got the night time authorization but after one week most stations turned it back off nights due to the huge amount of interference. While lower power, local AM stations are in trouble, big-signal 50kw am outlets are anything but. They often dominate their markets, with more audience share and cash-flow than any fm music station. The idea of reducing coverage area (with increased interference...which is now no longer theory, but established in practice by several big-signal stations which have ceased HD operation) in order to present TALK programming in "HD" is quite nauseating to station owners. For these reasons, Radio World now urges Ibiquity to form an alliance with DRM (Digital Radio Mondiale), and rethink AM HD...choosing a system that's both more robust, AND causes less interference. Talk about an about face! SNIP The only problem here is that DRM is no better than IBOC. This is not rocket science. I told the readers of RRS years ago that these schemes would work poorly. In past posts I outlined what the problems would be and they have all come to pass. I was able to do this as a natural consequence of those systems specifications. These systems suck as they do not use enough bandwidth to provide the quality of service along with improved sound quality. You have to have bandwidth and power to create a solid communications link. Ibiquity and the DRM consortium will lie right to your face because they have an investment in the technology. These groups are just a bunch of pointy haired marketing and management idiots. -- Telamon Ventura, California |
(OT) Eduardo - fellow IBOC-shill diputes your claims about AMratings.
Telamon wrote: In article , gallant17 wrote: Radio World to Ibiquity: Reconsider AM HD ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ -- It's akin to what's happening with the war in Iraq, as one former "cheerleader" of the cause after another changes their tune. One of the biggest cheerleaders of all things HD (and Ibiquity), Radio World Magazine, has, in an editorial in the latest issue, changed their mind about AM HD. They cite coverage issues (reports of people being able to see the damn tower(s), but not receive the signal), numerous stations which have abruptly stopped transmitting (AM) HD because of interference reports from neighboring stations, and studies which indicate that AM HD will turn the lucrative "cash cow" signals of 50kw flamethrower outlets owned by Clear Channel, Infinity, etc. into cash poor calves...with signals which are a shadow of their former selves. This last point, plus the fact that there is still no nighttime authorization for AM HD, is what Radio World believes is stalling adoption of AM HD even by the large broadcasters who have championed it. Yeah they got the night time authorization but after one week most stations turned it back off nights due to the huge amount of interference. While lower power, local AM stations are in trouble, big-signal 50kw am outlets are anything but. They often dominate their markets, with more audience share and cash-flow than any fm music station. The idea of reducing coverage area (with increased interference...which is now no longer theory, but established in practice by several big-signal stations which have ceased HD operation) in order to present TALK programming in "HD" is quite nauseating to station owners. For these reasons, Radio World now urges Ibiquity to form an alliance with DRM (Digital Radio Mondiale), and rethink AM HD...choosing a system that's both more robust, AND causes less interference. Talk about an about face! SNIP The only problem here is that DRM is no better than IBOC. This is not rocket science. I told the readers of RRS years ago that these schemes would work poorly. In past posts I outlined what the problems would be and they have all come to pass. I was able to do this as a natural consequence of those systems specifications. These systems suck as they do not use enough bandwidth to provide the quality of service along with improved sound quality. You have to have bandwidth and power to create a solid communications link. Ibiquity and the DRM consortium will lie right to your face because they have an investment in the technology. These groups are just a bunch of pointy haired marketing and management idiots. Oh come on now, 'Eduardo' has 'Bozo' hair! |
Eduardo - fellow IBOC-shill diputes your claims about AM ratings.
"David Eduardo" wrote in message ... "Telamon" wrote in message ... Yeah they got the night time authorization but after one week most stations turned it back off nights due to the huge amount of interference. Only two that turned it off are not back on, WABC and WJR. All others are back. In any case, AM is beyond hope. It surely is now that you have added massive interference to the mix.. |
Eduardo - fellow IBOC-shill diputes your claims about AM ratings.
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"David Eduardo" wrote: "Telamon" wrote in message ... Yeah they got the night time authorization but after one week most stations turned it back off nights due to the huge amount of interference. Only two that turned it off are not back on, WABC and WJR. All others are back. In any case, AM is beyond hope. You have got to be kidding. For about two weeks I could not get KOH on 780 until someone turned off their IBOC noise maker evenings. I don't think is was either of those two stations. -- Telamon Ventura, California |
Eduardo - fellow IBOC-shill diputes your claims about AM ratings.
On May 31, 9:46 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
Only two that turned it off are not back on, WABC and WJR. All others are back. In any case, AM is beyond hope. Eduardo - I can't believe you would admit that! I think therapy is helping you. Keep up the good work! |
Eduardo - fellow IBOC-shill diputes your claims about AM ratings.
On Jun 1, 9:59*am, Dave wrote:
Telamon wrote: In article , *"David Eduardo" wrote: "Telamon" wrote in message ... Yeah they got the night time authorization but after one week most stations turned it back off nights due to the huge amount of interference. Only two that turned it off are not back on, WABC and WJR. All others are back. In any case, AM is beyond hope. You have got to be kidding. For about two weeks I could not get KOH on 780 until someone turned off their IBOC noise maker evenings. I don't think is was either of those two stations. 770 and 790 are both Citadel stations, as is 780. *I doubt they want to screw up the whole southwest with digital hash.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - "Citadel Halts AM Nighttime IBOC Operation Amid Complaints" "An excerpt from his memo to staff reads: In response to the lackluster performance, the limited benefit and various reports of significant interference, Citadel is suspending nighttime AM HD operations at this time. Please reinstate your previous procedures for daytime-only HD operation as soon as possible.” http://www.radioworld.com/pages/s.0121/t.8847.html "Editorial: AM IBOC in Distress?" "Citadel Director of Corporate Engineering Martin Stabbert embodied questions about the efficacy of full-time AM HD when he ordered all his AMs that had already converted to cease transmitting HD at night, using language that must have given Ibiquity officials heartburn. Separately and for different immediate reasons, Cox, in a “let’s wait and see” move, has tried HD on most of its AM stations but is taking it off the air day and night, once tested at each facility." http://www.rwonline.com/pages/s.0044/t.9917.html "AM Broadcasters Back Away from HD Deployment" "This is a major setback for the adoption of HD Radio, especially on the AM dial, and Citadel is the first large broadcast conglomerate to back away from full deployment of the HD broadcast technology. Although the company's gone out of its way not to characterize its move an indictment of iBiquity's proprietary digital broadcast standard, the problems with AM HD broadcast interference are well- known and -documented." http://diymedia.net/archive/1007.htm#101307 Correct! |
Eduardo - fellow IBOC-shill diputes your claims about AM ratings.
On May 31, 9:46�pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Telamon" wrote in message .... Yeah they got the night time authorization but after one week most stations turned it back off nights due to the huge amount of interference. Only two that turned it off are not back on, WABC and WJR. All others are back. In any case, AM is beyond hope. "AM IBOC Stations on the Air" Last update: 29 May 2008 WSB GA Atlanta A NDA 50000 50000 News/Talk Cox IBOC said to be off due to listener complaints WJR MI Detroit A NDA 50000 50000 N* News/Talk Citadel * Was previously on WABC NY New York City A NDA 50000 50000 N* Talk Citadel * Was previously on http://topazdesigns.com/iboc/station-list.html WJR, WSB, and WABC are off, ****bag! |
Eduardo - fellow IBOC-shill diputes your claims about AM ratings.
On May 31, 9:46�pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Telamon" wrote in message .... Yeah they got the night time authorization but after one week most stations turned it back off nights due to the huge amount of interference. Only two that turned it off are not back on, WABC and WJR. All others are back. In any case, AM is beyond hope. "AM IBOC Stations on the Air" Last update: 29 May 2008 WSB GA Atlanta A NDA 50000 50000 News/Talk Cox IBOC said to be off due to listener complaints WJR MI Detroit A NDA 50000 50000 N* News/Talk Citadel * Was previously on WABC NY New York City A NDA 50000 50000 N* Talk Citadel * Was previously on http://topazdesigns.com/iboc/station-list.html All off! |
Eduardo - fellow IBOC-shill diputes your claims about AM ratings.
On Jun 1, 11:45 am, gallant17 wrote:
On May 31, 9:46�pm, "David Eduardo" wrote: "Telamon" wrote in message ... Yeah they got the night time authorization but after one week most stations turned it back off nights due to the huge amount of interference. Only two that turned it off are not back on, WABC and WJR. All others are back. In any case, AM is beyond hope. "AM IBOC Stations on the Air" Last update: 29 May 2008 WSB GA Atlanta A NDA 50000 50000 News/Talk Cox IBOC said to be off due to listener complaints WJR MI Detroit A NDA 50000 50000 N* News/Talk Citadel * Was previously on WABC NY New York City A NDA 50000 50000 N* Talk Citadel * Was previously on http://topazdesigns.com/iboc/station-list.html All off! If it were not for ibiquitys foreign market which is still not self sustaining and might not ever be, ibiquity would have to lay off people due to lack of interest just like in 2003. |
Eduardo - fellow IBOC-shill diputes your claims about AM ratings.
"Rfburns" wrote in message ... On May 31, 9:46 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote: Only two that turned it off are not back on, WABC and WJR. All others are back. In any case, AM is beyond hope. Eduardo - I can't believe you would admit that! I think therapy is helping you. Keep up the good work! I have said that Am is dying for a decade. |
Eduardo - fellow IBOC-shill diputes your claims about AM ratings.
"gallant17" wrote in message ... On Jun 1, 9:59 am, Dave wrote: Telamon wrote: In article , "David Eduardo" wrote: "Telamon" wrote in message ... Yeah they got the night time authorization but after one week most stations turned it back off nights due to the huge amount of interference. Only two that turned it off are not back on, WABC and WJR. All others are back. In any case, AM is beyond hope. You have got to be kidding. For about two weeks I could not get KOH on 780 until someone turned off their IBOC noise maker evenings. I don't think is was either of those two stations. 770 and 790 are both Citadel stations, as is 780. I doubt they want to screw up the whole southwest with digital hash.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - "Citadel Halts AM Nighttime IBOC Operation Amid Complaints" The subsequenly put nearly all of them back on. |
Eduardo - fellow IBOC-shill diputes your claims about AM ratings.
You have got to be kidding. For about two weeks I could not get KOH on 780 until someone turned off their IBOC noise maker evenings. KOH was never meant to reach Ventura. Considering their 50 kW main lobe goes straight toward Ventura I'd say your statement flies in the face of the physics of EM propagation. WBZ's lobe goes straight towards Ventura too....but was never meant to be reliably listened to there. Same for KOH. |
FYI : KKOH-AM 780 kHz Ain't a Clear Channel - What's a Clear ChannelAM/MW Radio Station - Who Are the Clear Channel AM/MW Radio Stations
On Jun 2, 6:48 am, dave wrote:
Rrrado Rn wrote: You have got to be kidding. For about two weeks I could not get KOH on 780 until someone turned off their IBOC noise maker evenings. - - KOH was never meant to reach Ventura. - Considering their 50 kW main lobe goes straight toward - Ventura I'd say your statement flies in the face of the - physics of EM propagation. Dave - You Say What ! KKOH is North of Reno and 'serves' {covers} Reno, Carson City and Lake Tahoe {Northern Nevada Metro}. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KKOH It's Signal Pattern is Attenuated to the East to 'protect' WBBM also on 780 kHz in Chicago, IL }. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WBBM_%28AM%29 NOTE - WBBM was a Class "A" [1-A] Clear Channel AM/MW Radio Station and KOH [KKOH} is a Class "B" [II-A] 'regional' serving Northern Nevada. FCC List of AM/MW Radio Station "Classes" and the http://www.fcc.gov/mb/audio/amclasses.html FCC's AM/MW Radio Channel Plan by Frequency Night-Time 50000 Watt AM/MW Radio Stations by Frequency http://www.fortunecity.com/tinpan/bl...namrp/freq.htm 1 - Predicted Daytime Coverage Area for KKOH-AM on 780 kHz in Reno, NV [Map] http://www.radio-locator.com/cgi-bin...atus=L&hours=D The Day-Time "Lobe" is WSW toward Chico and Sacramento and extending out to Santa Rosa and San Jose. -ps- Ventura, CA is SWS from Reno, NV. 2 - Predicted Night-Time Coverage Area for KKOH-AM on 780 kHz in Reno, NV [Map] http://www.radio-locator.com/cgi-bin...atus=L&hours=D The Night-Time "Lobe" is West toward Chico and Sacramento and extending out to Redding, Santa Rosa and Modesto. -ps- Ventura, CA is SWS from Reno, NV. -source- Radio-Locator.Com http://www.radio-locator.com/ ® 2008 Theodric Technologies LLC NOTE - The FCC's own Night-Time Signal Graph shows an Area that would cover Western Nevada out to include the California Central Valley. http://www.fcc.gov/ftp/Bureaus/MB/Da...05396-2635.pdf ABOUT - Clear-Channel AM/MW Radio Stations http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clear_channel http://www.oldradio.com/archives/stations/ccs.htm http://www.fortunecity.com/tinpan/bl...rp/amradio.htm FCC Ruling - On 29 May 1980, the FCC Ruled to Limit the 'protected' AM/MW Radio Signal for the remaining 25 "Clear Channel Radio Stations to a 750 Mile Radius around the Transmitter. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clear_channel#History -ps- That Closed-the-Door on Clear Channel Radio Stations. just setting the record straight ~ RHF |
Eduardo - fellow IBOC-shill diputes your claims about AM ratings.
"Telamon" wrote in message ... In article , dave wrote: David Eduardo wrote: "Rrrado Rn" wrote in message ... You have got to be kidding. For about two weeks I could not get KOH on 780 until someone turned off their IBOC noise maker evenings. KOH was never meant to reach Ventura. Tell Telemon that. Your model is flawed. KOH comes in just fine evenings at home or in the car. And you are likely the only listener for 25 miles around. What a thrill. |
Eduardo - fellow IBOC-shill diputes your claims about AM ratings.
"Telamon" wrote in message ... In article , dave wrote: David Eduardo wrote: "Rrrado Rn" wrote in message ... You have got to be kidding. For about two weeks I could not get KOH on 780 until someone turned off their IBOC noise maker evenings. KOH was never meant to reach Ventura. Tell Telemon that. Your model is flawed. KOH comes in just fine evenings at home or in the car. KOH was never meant to reach Ventura. |
Eduardo - fellow IBOC-shill diputes your claims about AM ratings.
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"David Eduardo" wrote: "Telamon" wrote in message ... In article , dave wrote: David Eduardo wrote: "Rrrado Rn" wrote in message ... You have got to be kidding. For about two weeks I could not get KOH on 780 until someone turned off their IBOC noise maker evenings. KOH was never meant to reach Ventura. Tell Telemon that. Your model is flawed. KOH comes in just fine evenings at home or in the car. And you are likely the only listener for 25 miles around. What a thrill. Then go join another newsgroup loser. If you don't care about the hobby then what the hell are you doing here? Faker. You and your stupid sock puppets are a waste of time. -- Telamon Ventura, California |
Eduardo - fellow IBOC-shill diputes your claims about AM ratings.
"Telamon" wrote in message ... In article , "David Eduardo" wrote: "Telamon" wrote in message ... In article , dave wrote: David Eduardo wrote: "Rrrado Rn" wrote in message ... You have got to be kidding. For about two weeks I could not get KOH on 780 until someone turned off their IBOC noise maker evenings. KOH was never meant to reach Ventura. Tell Telemon that. Your model is flawed. KOH comes in just fine evenings at home or in the car. And you are likely the only listener for 25 miles around. What a thrill. Then go join another newsgroup loser. If you don't care about the hobby then what the hell are you doing here? Listening to a nearby 50 kw AM with a 200 kw lobe in your direction is hardly DX. You and your stupid sock puppets are a waste of time. You will be so kind as to identify the sock puppets, please. I did not know I had any... although I do have the occasional mumbler idiot who posts using a bad attempt at being me, on occasion, and then replies to himself. |
Eduardo - fellow IBOC-shill diputes your claims about AM ratings.
"Telamon" wrote in message ... In article , dave wrote: David Eduardo wrote: "Rrrado Rn" wrote in message ... You have got to be kidding. For about two weeks I could not get KOH on 780 until someone turned off their IBOC noise maker evenings. KOH was never meant to reach Ventura. Tell Telemon that. Your model is flawed. KOH comes in just fine evenings at home or in the car. Where is KOH? I can't even find a listing for them on Radio-Locator. |
Eduardo - fellow IBOC-shill diputes your claims about AM ratings.
"Brenda Ann" wrote in message ... "Telamon" wrote in message ... In article , dave wrote: David Eduardo wrote: "Rrrado Rn" wrote in message ... You have got to be kidding. For about two weeks I could not get KOH on 780 until someone turned off their IBOC noise maker evenings. KOH was never meant to reach Ventura. Tell Telemon that. Your model is flawed. KOH comes in just fine evenings at home or in the car. Where is KOH? I can't even find a listing for them on Radio-Locator. It's really KKOH. Like KKOB in Albuquerque, they drop the second K which was added when the stations were sold away from their former TV-related owner and the TV stations would not allow shared calls. KKOH is the direct descendant of 630 KOH, the McClatchy-Beeline station in Reno. |
Eduardo - fellow IBOC-shill diputes your claims about AM ratings.
Telamon wrote:
In article , "David Eduardo" wrote: "Telamon" wrote in message ... In article , dave wrote: David Eduardo wrote: "Rrrado Rn" wrote in message ... You have got to be kidding. For about two weeks I could not get KOH on 780 until someone turned off their IBOC noise maker evenings. KOH was never meant to reach Ventura. Tell Telemon that. Your model is flawed. KOH comes in just fine evenings at home or in the car. And you are likely the only listener for 25 miles around. What a thrill. Then go join another newsgroup loser. If you don't care about the hobby then what the hell are you doing here? Faker. You and your stupid sock puppets are a waste of time. Brother, consider his response for a moment, and think about this.... When the tornados blew through Dallas/Ft Worth a few years ago, and no one knew it, it was because those listening to the radios at the time, were listening to voicetracked, automated stations that were unmanned, because...well....profit, you know. Profitable stations survive. So, the vast majority of listeners were tuned into their favorite stations. These same listeners, conditioned for the last 30 years, and trained to listen to 'the only station you'll ever need,' for important information, especially weather. Hell, I do promos for 20 stations every year about weather information...and to stay with W/Kxxx for all the relevant noise...but I digress. These are the same stations that have adjusted, if not overhauled their programming according to the results of research that says that busy, productive adults who 1) will NOT adjust their daily schedule to respond to 'forced listening' events just because they're on their favorite radio station and 2) will NOT sit through music/news/sports they don't want in order to hear one or two minutes of information they DO want. But, there's a weather emergency....so do broadcasters man the unmanned stations with weather information? No. They put the information on the news stations. Expecting listeners conditioned by 30 years of catering to their desire not to be informed to tune in to the news stations on the odd chance they'd hear the weather. Knowing by their own internal and external research that listeners simply don't behave that way. Interestingly enough, this information was on the News stations....read that, the AM stations. The very stations that broadcasters have openly admitted are not listened to after 7 pm. Wasn't the word 'negligible' bandied about this very newsgroup in regard to night time AM listening? Oh, yes...David used it himself. Negligible listening after 7pm. Uh huh.... So, let's review....Storms are inbound. Listening is to the FM music stations, which are unmanned. Emergency weather information is NOT on the FM music stations where it had been previously found because there is no staff to put it there. Emergency weather information is, however put on stations that music listeners are already known not to switch to...on the very stations that the broadcasters, themselves know and admit are not listened to after 7pm. And here comes David, saying, hey...we had the information on the air. If they weren't listening that's not our problem. But next time, we'll put announcements on the unmanned stations to tell the listeners to switch over to the stations we already know they will NOT switch over to... and we'll call that serving in the public interest. And still hit out profit numbers.... Why would you be surprised that he lingers here to argue that what we do is irrelevant, AND THE PROBLEM with radio, today. Talking out of both sides of his mouth is a career for him. You go back to your RX-340, and I'll go back to my RX-350, and we can both join the rest of us here, who enjoy the hobby. While he ****es up his rope. |
Eduardo - fellow IBOC-shill diputes your claims about AM ratings.
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"Brenda Ann" wrote: "Telamon" wrote in message ... In article , dave wrote: David Eduardo wrote: "Rrrado Rn" wrote in message ... You have got to be kidding. For about two weeks I could not get KOH on 780 until someone turned off their IBOC noise maker evenings. KOH was never meant to reach Ventura. Tell Telemon that. Your model is flawed. KOH comes in just fine evenings at home or in the car. Where is KOH? I can't even find a listing for them on Radio-Locator. They call themselves KOH but the call letters are KKOH. Reno, Nevada 50KW on 780KHz. -- Telamon Ventura, California |
Eduardo - fellow IBOC-shill diputes your claims about AM ratings.
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"David Eduardo" wrote: "Telamon" wrote in message ... In article , "David Eduardo" wrote: "Telamon" wrote in message . .. In article , dave wrote: David Eduardo wrote: "Rrrado Rn" wrote in message ... You have got to be kidding. For about two weeks I could not get KOH on 780 until someone turned off their IBOC noise maker evenings. KOH was never meant to reach Ventura. Tell Telemon that. Your model is flawed. KOH comes in just fine evenings at home or in the car. And you are likely the only listener for 25 miles around. What a thrill. Then go join another newsgroup loser. If you don't care about the hobby then what the hell are you doing here? Listening to a nearby 50 kw AM with a 200 kw lobe in your direction is hardly DX. You know the response to this. You and your stupid sock puppets are a waste of time. You will be so kind as to identify the sock puppets, please. I did not know I had any... although I do have the occasional mumbler idiot who posts using a bad attempt at being me, on occasion, and then replies to himself. And you also know the response to this one. -- Telamon Ventura, California |
Eduardo - fellow IBOC-shill diputes your claims about AM ratings.
Telamon wrote: In article , "David Eduardo" wrote: "Telamon" wrote in message ... In article , dave wrote: David Eduardo wrote: "Rrrado Rn" wrote in message ... You have got to be kidding. For about two weeks I could not get KOH on 780 until someone turned off their IBOC noise maker evenings. KOH was never meant to reach Ventura. Tell Telemon that. Your model is flawed. KOH comes in just fine evenings at home or in the car. And you are likely the only listener for 25 miles around. What a thrill. Then go join another newsgroup loser. If you don't care about the hobby then what the hell are you doing here? That's a question that has certainly been posed in the past, not only here, but in other radio groups throughout the years. It is true that 'Eduardo' is not only persona non grata in Ecuador, but in other areas as well. |
FYI : KKOH-AM 780 kHz Ain't a Clear Channel - What's a ClearChannel AM/MW Radio Station - Who Are the Clear Channel AM/MW Radio Stations
RHF wrote:
just setting the record straight ~ RHF KKOH is Class B and has no secondary status. That being said, they scream into SoCal after dark: http://www.fcc.gov/ftp/Bureaus/MB/Da...05396-2635.pdf . |
Eduardo - fellow IBOC-shill diputes your claims about AM ratings.
David Eduardo wrote:
"Telamon" wrote in message ... In article , dave wrote: David Eduardo wrote: "Rrrado Rn" wrote in message ... You have got to be kidding. For about two weeks I could not get KOH on 780 until someone turned off their IBOC noise maker evenings. KOH was never meant to reach Ventura. Tell Telemon that. Your model is flawed. KOH comes in just fine evenings at home or in the car. And you are likely the only listener for 25 miles around. What a thrill. You must have spent your whole life in the big city. When you press the "seek" bar the radio doesn't look for "community of license"; it looks for clean signals. |
Eduardo - fellow IBOC-shill diputes your claims about AM ratings.
A Brown wrote:
"Telamon" wrote in message ... In article , dave wrote: David Eduardo wrote: "Rrrado Rn" wrote in message ... You have got to be kidding. For about two weeks I could not get KOH on 780 until someone turned off their IBOC noise maker evenings. KOH was never meant to reach Ventura. Tell Telemon that. Your model is flawed. KOH comes in just fine evenings at home or in the car. KOH was never meant to reach Ventura. Tell it to God. Or whoever wrote the laws of physics. |
McClatchy "Beeline" Radio Stations : KBHK, KWG, KMJ, KERN, &KOH
RHF wrote:
McClatchy "Beeline" Radio Stations "Gabby" the Bee - created by- Walt Disney for McClatchy Broadcasting : http://www.radioblvd.com/nevradiohist.htm KBHK in Sacramento . KFBK, Sparky. Check out their co-linear antennas. Very cool. (Just setting the record straight-**** you very much) |
Eduardo - fellow IBOC-shill diputes your claims about AM ratings.
"ASCII" wrote in message ... D Peter Maus wrote: But, there's a weather emergency... It's quite tiring to have news talk ten seventy on all the time, with their high stress format and ubiquitous commercial messages, but at the first sensation of an earthquake, most people I know in SoCal instinctively tune to KNX Not so. Probably most people under 35 to 40 and definitely those under 30 don't use AM and have little knowledge of what is on the band. And in polls, KFWB gets more credit for post-quake coverage, but the big winner is KFI simply because KFI has about triple or quadruple the regular audience of KNX and is better known. |
Eduardo - fellow IBOC-shill diputes your claims about AM ratings.
ASCII wrote:
D Peter Maus wrote: But, there's a weather emergency... It's quite tiring to have news talk ten seventy on all the time, with their high stress format and ubiquitous commercial messages, but at the first sensation of an earthquake, most people I know in SoCal instinctively tune to KNX Apparently, there's been an abandonment of such branding response in Dallas. No one heard the messages. |
McClatchy "Beeline" Radio Stations : KBHK, KWG, KMJ, KERN, & KOH
"Dave" wrote in message m... RHF wrote: McClatchy "Beeline" Radio Stations "Gabby" the Bee - created by- Walt Disney for McClatchy Broadcasting : http://www.radioblvd.com/nevradiohist.htm KBHK in Sacramento . KFBK, Sparky. Check out their co-linear antennas. Very cool. (Just setting the record straight-**** you very much) The antennas are called Franklin antennas, consisting of a fed top half wave section with another, insulated from the top, half wave below it. Most efficient AM antenna design known. |
Eduardo - fellow IBOC-shill diputes your claims about AM ratings.
dxAce wrote:
It is true that 'Eduardo' is not only persona non grata in Ecuador, but in other areas as well. Very much like you, is he? mike -- Due to the insane amount of spam and garbage, this filter blocks all postings from Gmail, Google Mail and Google Groups. http://improve-usenet.org/ |
Eduardo - fellow IBOC-shill diputes your claims about AM ratings.
m II wrote: dxAce wrote: It is true that 'Eduardo' is not only persona non grata in Ecuador, but in other areas as well. Very much like you, is he? No, I'm not a faux Hispanic, like 'Eduardo'. |
McClatchy "Beeline" Radio Stations : KFBK, KWG, KMJ, KERN, & KOH
On Jun 3, 6:33 am, Dave wrote:
- - RHF wrote: - - McClatchy "Beeline" Radio Stations - - "Gabby" the Bee - created by- Walt Disney - - for McClatchy Broadcasting : - - http://www.radioblvd.com/nevradiohist.htm - - KBHK in Sacramento - - . - KFBK, Sparky. Check out their co-linear antennas. Very cool. - (Just setting the record straight-**** you very much) Dave, Sorry, yes that should be KFBK [KVQ] that was a 'typo' on the referenced WebPage which reads "KBHK in Sacramento," History of KFBK in Sacramento, CA. This is the KFBK Radio Station History Section -of- The Broadcast Archive - last update: 6/10/06 Maintained by: Barry Mishkind - The Eclectic Engineer http://www.oldradio.com/archives/stations/ccs/kfbk.htm A Pictorial Tour of KFBK-AM 1530 kHz 50 KW in Sacramento, CA http://www.oldradio.com/archives/sta...cs/kfbkpix.htm Including Photos of the"Franklin" Half-Wave Tower Antennas halfway up the Tower is the Insulated Section. -source- The Broadcast Archive http://www.oldradio.com/archives/ "Radio History on the Web" -aka- Old Radio .Com http://www.oldradio.com/ |
McClatchy "Beeline" Radio Stations : KBHK, KWG, KMJ, KERN, & KOH
David Eduardo wrote: "Dave" wrote in message m... RHF wrote: McClatchy "Beeline" Radio Stations "Gabby" the Bee - created by- Walt Disney for McClatchy Broadcasting : http://www.radioblvd.com/nevradiohist.htm KBHK in Sacramento . KFBK, Sparky. Check out their co-linear antennas. Very cool. (Just setting the record straight-**** you very much) The antennas are called Franklin antennas, consisting of a fed top half wave section with another, insulated from the top, half wave below it. Most efficient AM antenna design known. You didn't own one of those either. |
McClatchy "Beeline" Radio Stations : KBHK, KWG, KMJ, KERN, &KOH
dxAce wrote:
David Eduardo wrote: "Dave" wrote in message m... RHF wrote: McClatchy "Beeline" Radio Stations "Gabby" the Bee - created by- Walt Disney for McClatchy Broadcasting : http://www.radioblvd.com/nevradiohist.htm KBHK in Sacramento . KFBK, Sparky. Check out their co-linear antennas. Very cool. (Just setting the record straight-**** you very much) The antennas are called Franklin antennas, consisting of a fed top half wave section with another, insulated from the top, half wave below it. Most efficient AM antenna design known. You didn't own one of those either. ROFLMAO! |
McClatchy "Beeline" Radio Stations : KBHK, KWG, KMJ, KERN, & KOH
dxAce wrote: David Eduardo wrote: "Dave" wrote in message m... RHF wrote: McClatchy "Beeline" Radio Stations "Gabby" the Bee - created by- Walt Disney for McClatchy Broadcasting : http://www.radioblvd.com/nevradiohist.htm KBHK in Sacramento . KFBK, Sparky. Check out their co-linear antennas. Very cool. (Just setting the record straight-**** you very much) The antennas are called Franklin antennas, consisting of a fed top half wave section with another, insulated from the top, half wave below it. Most efficient AM antenna design known. You didn't own one of those either. Maybe KFBK will let you pretend that you own theirs! |
McClatchy "Beeline" Radio Stations : KFBK, KWG, KMJ, KERN, & KOH
On Jun 3, 6:52*am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Dave" wrote in message m... RHF wrote: McClatchy "Beeline" Radio Stations "Gabby" the Bee - created by- Walt Disney for McClatchy Broadcasting : http://www.radioblvd.com/nevradiohist.htm KBHK in Sacramento *. - - KFBK, Sparky. *Check out their co-linear antennas. *Very cool. - - - - (Just setting the record straight-**** you very much) - The antennas are called Franklin antennas, consisting - of a fed top half wave section with another, - insulated from the top, half wave below it. - Most efficient AM antenna design known. Lets see a Two Element Antenna with two equal sized elements fed at a common Center-Point . . . Sure sounds like a Vertical Half-Wave Dipole to me. But calling it a Franklin is ok by me. ~ RHF |
Eduardo - fellow IBOC-shill diputes your claims about AM ratings.
"Dave" wrote in message m... A Brown wrote: "Telamon" wrote in message ... In article , dave wrote: David Eduardo wrote: "Rrrado Rn" wrote in message ... You have got to be kidding. For about two weeks I could not get KOH on 780 until someone turned off their IBOC noise maker evenings. KOH was never meant to reach Ventura. Tell Telemon that. Your model is flawed. KOH comes in just fine evenings at home or in the car. KOH was never meant to reach Ventura. Tell it to God. Or whoever wrote the laws of physics. Well, God is well aware that radio signals can go on forever in theory. But in world of mortals, there is a point where the signal isn't protected. Not protected by design and practice. |
San Diego, CA's Better Radio Signal Coverage : KNX ? -or- KFI ?
On Jun 3, 6:54*pm, Bart Bailey wrote:
In posted on Tue, 3 Jun 2008 18:43:02 -0700, David Eduardo wrote: Begin * KFI has a better news department and delivery than KNX. Now if they could only deliver it beyond LA county, till then it's KNX that gets heard down here. BB, Predicted Coverage Area for KNX-AM 1070 kHz 50 KW Day and Night from Los Angeles, CA http://www.radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/pat? call=KNX&service=AM&status=L&hours=U KNX is designed to 'cover' San Diego as a Local. Predicted Coverage Area for KFI-AM 620 kHz 50 KW Day and Night from Los Angeles, CA http://www.radio-locator.com/cgi-bin...atus=L&hours=U KFI is designed to 'cover' San Diego as a Local. FAQ - Frequently Asked Questions about the Radio-Locator Predicted Coverage Area Maps http://www.radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/page?p=maps -source- Radio-Locator.Com http://www.radio-locator.com/ |
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