(OT) : Energy for a Strong America and a Healthy US Economy
 

In article
,
wrote:

On Jul 21, 4:55*am, dxAce wrote:
D Peter Maus wrote:
wrote:

Can't go on using oil for more than another 10 to 20 years due to the
global warming emergency proven by science, dumbass.

* *Nothing has been proven. There is considerable debate within the
scientific community about the validity of the claims made by the global
warming movement. To underscore the point, NOAA released figures this
past quarter that indicate global temperatures have dropped by .6 of a
degree in the last 12 months.

* *As for greenhouse gasses...well, let's look at that. Carbon dioxide
is only .04% of atmospheric content. Every living creature on the planet
emits CO2. Even plants, in the absence of sunlight. *In the presence of
sunlight, they consume CO2 at a voracious rate.

* *Water, on the other hand, is the primary greehouse gas, with a known
impact on atmospheric temperature through cloud formation. And yet....no
one has even hinted at it's regulation.

* *A previous poster is correct....global warming is a socialist
movement. *It's goals are precisely the same as the alarmists who set
their crosshairs on the oil industry when Rockefeller was building the
Standard Oil monopoly.

Michael Savage had a fellow on in the past week who outlined what the
socialists
have done over the years to instill fear in the people. If I recall, there
may
me a link on his site to the info, though I've not looked at it.

The guest made a point about what the left will do when the 'global
warming'
craze subsides and that will be to manufacture another crisis and on and on
it
will go.

Savage is a nutcase.

Savage is brilliant.

The science is case closed.

No it is not.

You are wrong.

You are wrong and obviously a nut case.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

(OT) : Energy for a Strong America and a Healthy US Economy
 

In article
,
wrote:

On Jul 21, 11:46*am, D Peter Maus wrote:
Dave wrote:
On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 10:41:29 -0400, dxAce wrote:

* Interesting that no one's talking about that pile of Saddam's
'fictional' yellowcake that ended up in Canada.
Yeah via D{e@o G@r(}a , that place that should not be mentioned.

A pile of ore is not a weapon. *It is not a gathering threat.

http://www.dg.navy.mil/web/

http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita...ego-garcia.htm

* *Denial is a marvelous thing.

Especially yours.
The OVERWHELMING majority of scientific opinion agrees that humans are
causing global warming, and that consensus is growing stronger with
every passing month,, quite to the contrary of your claims. You are
not as well read on science as you think in light of the overwhelming
disproof of your views below:

SNIP

You are clearly wrong. You have misinterpreted the science, don't
understand the science, and worse you don't care. All you care about is
beating anyone about the head with your screwy ideas.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

(OT) : Energy for a Strong America and a Healthy US Economy
 

In article ,
Dave wrote:

D Peter Maus wrote:
m II wrote:
D Peter Maus wrote:

Subject: Wild Pigs

Of course none of this movement to totalitarianism has happened in the
last seven and a half years. The Patriot act is merely for your own good.




mike





You keep forgetting how many times Bill Clinton tried to pass the
Patriot Act. And how many times the Republican Congress blocked him.

Or that Projects Echelon and Carnivore were built during his
administration.


The (not even) Patriot Act is a hodge-podge of fascist dreams that has
been kicking around for decades. Clinton is no benchmark of virtue;
why do you worship him so?

Looks like it's time for another bowl of stupid for you.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

(OT) : Energy for a Strong America and a Healthy US Economy
 

In article ,
Dave wrote:

Telamon wrote:
In article ,
Dave wrote:

On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 10:41:29 -0400, dxAce wrote:


Interesting that no one's talking about that pile of Saddam's
'fictional' yellowcake that ended up in Canada.
Yeah via D{e@o G@r(}a , that place that should not be mentioned.
A pile of ore is not a weapon. It is not a gathering threat.

http://www.dg.navy.mil/web/

http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita...ego-garcia.htm

Really? What about the illness it caused in Iraq?


The illness caused when we left the stockpile unguarded and the locals
dumped the powder out and reused the barrels for drinking water? Tragic.

The first part is a hallucination. You got the second part right. That's
an improvement for you being about 50% right instead of the usual 0%.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

(OT) : D'Oh ! The Global Warning Mantra - Say It Ten Times in a Row -and- You Are Full of Hot Air.
 

In article
,
wrote:

On Jul 21, 7:55*am, RHF wrote:
On Jul 20, 11:18*pm, wrote:



On Jun 18, 3:15*pm, RHF wrote:

On Jun 18, 2:42*pm, Dave wrote: On Wed, 18 Jun
2008 08:05:33 -0700, wasatch wrote:
Mr. Bush is about to propose offshore oil drilling even though
there is
plenty...

U.S. imports 70% that we use.

- - How to Find Gold : Dig For It!
- -
- - More Oil : Drill For It!

- There is no shortage of crude oil.

Dave that is Factually True
-but- That Vast Supply of Oil is still in the Ground.
-specifically- In the USA for the USA.
-ps- Plus a Whole Lot More Coal Too.

First - There is a Shortage of Getting the Oil
out of the Ground to meet the Demand.
-specifically- In the USA for the USA.
-solution- Drill for more Oil in the USA.

Second - There is a Shortage of Oil Refining
Capablility to meet the Demand.
-specifically- In the USA for the USA.
-solution- Build more Oil Refineries in the USA.

ALTERNATIVE : WALK ! -or- Go Nowhere.

facts are facts ~ RHF
*.

- No, the fact is you don't care about the future.

I 'care' about the "Future" Every Day ~ RHF

- Carbon based fuel is NOT an option for long term energy use. *

I Am Carbon Based - What Are You "Silly-Com" ?
{Silly Communist}

- Perhaps you haven't heard about global warming?

D'Oh ! The Global Warning Mantra :
Say It Ten Times in a Row
-and- You Are Full of Hot Air.

-*You should be informed.

D'Oh ! . . . and you are ? - Not ! ~ RHF
*.

You're spouting nonsense.

SNIP

He is right up your alley then.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Dave -proclaims- There Is No Shortwage of Crude Oil
 

In article ,
Dave wrote:

On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 19:47:07 +0000, D Peter Maus wrote:

http://planetsave.com/blog/2008/01/2...-could-dry-up-
nuclear-
power-plants-in-southeast/

http://drought.unl.edu/dm/monitor.html



You come help replace the burned out sump pump in my basement, and
I'll listen to your noise about drought.

Your basement is not the rest of the USA, nor the world.

Neither is the inside of your drug addled head.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Dave -proclaims- There Is No Shortwage of Crude Oil
 

In article ,
Dave wrote:

D Peter Maus wrote:

"Nuclear" has been a dirty word since the movie 'The China Syndrome,'
a film often pointed to as a reference in debates where nuclear plants
were to be constructed. As a population, most of what is 'understood'
about nuclear energy production comes from that film.

Three Mile Island was the horror it was BECAUSE of the The China
Syndrome, when in fact, though a meltdown had occurred--some 8 feet of
reactor core was lost--the systems did precisely what they were supposed
to do, and shut the reactor down.

Odd, no one ever talks about THAT.

The problem is not the ignorant 'drill happy' folks.

The problem is the ignorant uneducated folks attempting to create a
panic based on short sight, and snapshot focus on a very narrow picture
of global events. And an overall suppression of understanding of energy
production by so-called professionals in education.


Nuclear plants need lots of water. Many installed nukes are running on
low power now due to water shortage.

Wrong.

We need to consume less and not allow the rest of the world to become
the oinkers that we already are. A few years of economic depression
will do wonders for speeding that along.

You are a sick puppy.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

(OT) : Islam-O-Facist "Dirty Bomb" Terrorist Projects Continue . . .
 

In article ,
Dave wrote:

SNIP

Total bull****. Grow a pair.

The first is what your brain is made of and the second is something you
can't fathom.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

(OT) : Energy for a Strong America and a Healthy US Economy
 

In article lHshk.88743$kx.1730@pd7urf3no, John Barnard
wrote:

Telamon wrote:
In article ,
Dave wrote:

On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 10:41:29 -0400, dxAce wrote:


Interesting that no one's talking about that pile of Saddam's
'fictional' yellowcake that ended up in Canada.
Yeah via D{e@o G@r(}a , that place that should not be mentioned.
A pile of ore is not a weapon. It is not a gathering threat.

http://www.dg.navy.mil/web/

http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita...ego-garcia.htm

Really? What about the illness it caused in Iraq?


No metal,

Now, now, it is the DU weapons used by the US military in Iraq which
caused the illnesses.

Wrong.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

(OT) : Energy for a Strong America and a Healthy US Economy
 

In article oKshk.23629$nD.2259@pd7urf1no, John Barnard
wrote:

Telamon wrote:
In article DObhk.877$nu6.761@edtnps83, m II wrote:

Telamon wrote:
In article ,
Dave wrote:

On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 10:41:29 -0400, dxAce wrote:

Interesting that no one's talking about that pile of Saddam's
'fictional' yellowcake that ended up in Canada.
Yeah via D{e@o G@r(}a , that place that should not be mentioned.
A pile of ore is not a weapon. It is not a gathering threat.

http://www.dg.navy.mil/web/

http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita...ego-garcia.htm
Really? What about the illness it caused in Iraq?


Ten thousand Gulf war vets dead. DU played a big role.

SNIP

The yellow cake is far worse so you had better get that HAZMAT suit on.


Yawn. Aren't you tired of fear-mongering yet? Yellow cake may be worse
but it is far more difficult to get let alone process. Go Team Fear!

Thanks for making my point on what is more dangerous.

It was easy to get. It was sitting in barrels or was dumped on the
ground.

Go team retard.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

(OT) : Energy for a Strong America and a Healthy US Economy
 

In article FPshk.23634$nD.18998@pd7urf1no,
John Barnard wrote:

m II wrote:
Telamon wrote:

Think of this at Dinner time, ok?
SNIP

I'm not going to look at it because coming from you I'm sure it's
something disgusting.

Yes it is. The US army did it. With your money.

http://www.uruknet.info/uruknet-images/290706du2.jpg

Don't you want to make sure you're getting your money's worth?


It's too difficult to reason with these morons. After all, if they treat
their own countrymen in so expendable a fashion they won't hesitate to
treat anyone else in the same manner. Such is the way of those who are
morally nihilistic...


Oh yeah baby you be the voice of reason... NOT!

What an idiot.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

(OT) : Energy for a Strong America and a Healthy US Economy
 

Dave wrote:
On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 19:48:45 +0000, D Peter Maus wrote:


No search engine necessary. I've told you. But you have to actually
have read it to understand.


Go back and read what I wrote. It's there.

You are a Pavlovian drone, thanks to your uncritical gluttony of junk
media.


You don't read so good, do you.

(OT) : Energy for a Strong America and a Healthy US Economy
 

D Peter Maus wrote:
Dave wrote:
On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 19:48:45 +0000, D Peter Maus wrote:


No search engine necessary. I've told you. But you have to actually
have read it to understand.


Go back and read what I wrote. It's there.

You are a Pavlovian drone, thanks to your uncritical gluttony of junk
media.


You don't read so good, do you.


I read well, thanks. I tend not to believe anything that Citadel
Broadcasting spews my way. Misters Hannity and Limbaugh do not serve
the American middle class's best interests; they promote a fascist
agenda and are a direct threat to the continuation of representative
government. Their lies go unchallenged and this is why the Fairness
Doctrine was a brilliant idea.

(OT) : Energy for a Strong America and a Healthy US Economy
 

Dave wrote:
D Peter Maus wrote:
Dave wrote:
On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 19:48:45 +0000, D Peter Maus wrote:


No search engine necessary. I've told you. But you have to actually
have read it to understand.


Go back and read what I wrote. It's there.

You are a Pavlovian drone, thanks to your uncritical gluttony of junk
media.


You don't read so good, do you.


I read well, thanks. I tend not to believe anything that Citadel
Broadcasting spews my way. Misters Hannity and Limbaugh do not serve
the American middle class's best interests; they promote a fascist
agenda and are a direct threat to the continuation of representative
government. Their lies go unchallenged and this is why the Fairness
Doctrine was a brilliant idea.



You apparently don't listen so good, either.

(OT) : Energy for a Strong America and a Healthy US Economy
 

Dave wrote:



Misters Hannity and Limbaugh do not serve
the American middle class's best interests; they promote a fascist
agenda and are a direct threat to the continuation of representative
government. Their lies go unchallenged and this is why the Fairness
Doctrine was a brilliant idea.


Because, as we all know, only Republicans lie.

(OT) : Energy for a Strong America and a Healthy US Economy
 

D Peter Maus wrote:

Because, as we all know, only Republicans lie.


I've known that for years. It's a rule of Grammar.

Bush Lies, Clinton lays.

or was it lie on the couch, lay the carpet down....



mike


--
Due to the insane amount of spam and garbage,
this filter blocks all postings with a Gmail,
Google Mail, Google Groups or HOTMAIL address.
It also filters everything from a .cn server.

http://improve-usenet.org/

(OT) : Energy for a Strong America and a Healthy US Economy
 

On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 13:24:11 +0000, D Peter Maus wrote:

Dave wrote:



Misters Hannity and Limbaugh do not serve the American middle class's
best interests; they promote a fascist agenda and are a direct threat
to the continuation of representative government. Their lies go
unchallenged and this is why the Fairness Doctrine was a brilliant
idea.


Because, as we all know, only Republicans lie.

You said it, I didn't. I wasn't talking about political parties, I was
talking about corporations using a public resource to promote a markedly
antisocial agenda.

(OT) : Energy for a Strong America and a Healthy US Economy
 

Dave wrote:
On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 13:24:11 +0000, D Peter Maus wrote:

Dave wrote:



Misters Hannity and Limbaugh do not serve the American middle class's
best interests; they promote a fascist agenda and are a direct threat
to the continuation of representative government. Their lies go
unchallenged and this is why the Fairness Doctrine was a brilliant
idea.

Because, as we all know, only Republicans lie.

You said it, I didn't. I wasn't talking about political parties, I was
talking about corporations using a public resource to promote a markedly
antisocial agenda.


No, actually, you were talking about nothing of the kind. You were on
your usual rant.

And that's all it is. A rant.

I notice you've not once commented on anything Randi Rhodes has said.
Never called Tom Daschle or Harry Reid a liar.

You just make the same lock step noise about corporate evil, right
wing fascism, and the end of the Republic.

To borrow a signature from a member of another newsgroup I frequent:

You are like an uninvited guest at a picnic, who insists the potato
salad may have gone bad.

(OT) : Energy for a Strong America and a Healthy US Economy
 

On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 19:45:52 +0000, D Peter Maus wrote:



No, actually, you were talking about nothing of the kind. You were on
your usual rant.

And that's all it is. A rant.

I notice you've not once commented on anything Randi Rhodes has said.
Never called Tom Daschle or Harry Reid a liar.

You just make the same lock step noise about corporate evil, right
wing fascism, and the end of the Republic.

To borrow a signature from a member of another newsgroup I frequent:

You are like an uninvited guest at a picnic, who insists the potato
salad may have gone bad.

You seem to hang with a lot of grouchy people.

Randi Rhodes isn't trying to destroy the middle class, so she doesn't
bother me so much. A corporation cannot be evil; that is a personal
attribute. Corporations do what politicians and courts allow them to
do. People elect politicians to represent their best interests. The
news media is supposed to also represent the people, and keep the
politicians under close scrutiny. This is a basic tenet of Jeffersonian
Democracy. As that function has broken down, the Republic is doomed.
The media are nothing but cheerleaders for Daddy Warbucks,

(OT) : Dave - Take a 'look' in a Mirror.
 

On Jul 23, 3:49*pm, Dave wrote:
On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 19:45:52 +0000, D Peter Maus wrote:

* *No, actually, you were talking about nothing of the kind. You were on
your usual rant.

* *And that's all it is. A rant.

* *I notice you've not once commented on anything Randi Rhodes has said.
Never called Tom Daschle or Harry Reid a liar.

* *You just make the same lock step noise about corporate evil, right
wing fascism, and the end of the Republic.

* *To borrow a signature from a member of another newsgroup I frequent:

* *You are like an uninvited guest at a picnic, who insists the potato
salad may have gone bad.

- You seem to hang with a lot of grouchy people.

Dave - Take a 'look' in a Mirror.

- Randi Rhodes isn't trying to destroy the middle class,
- so she doesn't bother me so much.

Dave - If this is a Fact Prove It - Oops You Can't .
-cause- It's just your opinion.

-*A corporation cannot be evil; that is a personal attribute.
-*Corporations do what politicians and courts allow them
- to do. *People elect politicians to represent their best
- interests.

Dave - If this is a Fact Prove It - Oops You Can't .
-cause- It's just your opinion.

-*The news media is supposed to also represent the
- people, and keep the politicians under close scrutiny.

Barack Hussein Obama II has the the Liberal TV Networks
in his Pockets LF=ABC; RF=CBS; RR=NBC; LR=PBS
The News is so politically distorted as to un-real.

-*This is a basic tenet of Jeffersonian Democracy.

Just One of Many Tenets of Jeffersonian Democracy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffersonian_Democracy

- As that function has broken down,

Yeah Something is sure broken.

- the Republic is doomed. *

To follow the National Socialist path of the Democrat
Party of the USA.

- The media are nothing but cheerleaders for Daddy
Warbucks,

Never heard Barack Hussein Obama II called Daddy
Warbucks before.

hey this is how i 'feel' and these are my opinions
with no claim to being right or factual accuracy ~ RHF

(OT) : Dave - Take a 'look' in a Mirror.
 

Adibotic (or whatever they call it) oil? Some people say that oil is
created by Earth's Magma, something like that, and Earth will never run
out of oil.I don't know.I say make oil out of all of the politicians and
that will solve the energy problems.
cuhulin

(OT) : Energy for a Strong America and a Healthy US Economy
 

Telamon wrote:
In article oKshk.23629$nD.2259@pd7urf1no, John Barnard
wrote:

Telamon wrote:
In article DObhk.877$nu6.761@edtnps83, m II wrote:

Telamon wrote:
In article ,
Dave wrote:

On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 10:41:29 -0400, dxAce wrote:

Interesting that no one's talking about that pile of Saddam's
'fictional' yellowcake that ended up in Canada.
Yeah via D{e@o G@r(}a , that place that should not be mentioned.
A pile of ore is not a weapon. It is not a gathering threat.

http://www.dg.navy.mil/web/

http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita...ego-garcia.htm
Really? What about the illness it caused in Iraq?

Ten thousand Gulf war vets dead. DU played a big role.
SNIP

The yellow cake is far worse so you had better get that HAZMAT suit on.

Yawn. Aren't you tired of fear-mongering yet? Yellow cake may be worse
but it is far more difficult to get let alone process. Go Team Fear!

Thanks for making my point on what is more dangerous.

It was easy to get. It was sitting in barrels or was dumped on the
ground.

Go team retard.

I'm sure that team retard welcomes your membership!

A few questions for you:
How do you know it was easy to get? Were you there to watch the
shipments come in? How much was there? Did it take days, weeks, months
or years for it to come in?

If you had 25 000 tons of yellowcake, you could isolate about 50 tons of
uranium metal. Uranium metal is 99.3% U-238 and U-235. From 50 tons you
could isolate 0.35 tons of U-235 (this equals 700 lbs). For a gun-type
fission weapon ("Little Boy" was a gun-type weapon), you need 110 lbs of
U-235. All of this assumes that you have 100% extraction efficiency.
But wait! You need to have extremely sophisticated facilities to
separate out U-235 from the other isotopes! So where were these
facilities to isolate the U-235???

Lay off the assumptions - it'll make you less of an idiot!

JB

(OT) : The Baracking-Up of Iraq
 

RHF wrote:
On Jul 22, 3:05 pm, John Barnard wrote:
RHF wrote:
On Jul 22, 5:58 am, Dave wrote:
Telamon wrote:
In article ,
Dave wrote:
On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 10:41:29 -0400, dxAce wrote:
Interesting that no one's talking about that pile of Saddam's
'fictional' yellowcake that ended up in Canada.
Yeah via D{e@o G@r(}a , that place that should not be mentioned.
A pile of ore is not a weapon. It is not a gathering threat.
http://www.dg.navy.mil/web/
http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita...ego-garcia.htm
Really? What about the illness it caused in Iraq?
- The illness caused when we left the stockpile unguarded
- and the locals dumped the powder out and reused the
- barrels for drinking water? Tragic.
Dave so we are responsible for the Problems
cause by Saddam Hussein's Government ?
tragically you are wrong on this one too ~ RHF
.

- Don't you often say that you "broke" Iraq and
- now must fix it? You broke it, you buy it
- including all the problems with it.
-
- JB

JB - Saddam Hussein's Government's Mess is the
'responsibility' of the new Iraqi Government.

We 'fixed' it allright by sending the Yellow Cake
to Canada : Thus We Un-Broke-It !

I am sure that US President Barack Hussein Obama II
will Barack-Us-Out of Iraq PDQ

(OT) : The Baracking-Up of Iraq

Michelle LVR Obama -says- Let Them Eat Yellow Cake !
.

Are you sure that your name isn't McCain II? You seem to be mixing up
many things!

JB

(OT) : Energy for a Strong America and a Healthy US Economy
 

Telamon wrote:
In article lHshk.88743$kx.1730@pd7urf3no, John Barnard
wrote:

Telamon wrote:
In article ,
Dave wrote:

On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 10:41:29 -0400, dxAce wrote:

Interesting that no one's talking about that pile of Saddam's
'fictional' yellowcake that ended up in Canada.
Yeah via D{e@o G@r(}a , that place that should not be mentioned.
A pile of ore is not a weapon. It is not a gathering threat.

http://www.dg.navy.mil/web/

http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita...ego-garcia.htm
Really? What about the illness it caused in Iraq?

No metal,

Now, now, it is the DU weapons used by the US military in Iraq which
caused the illnesses.

Wrong.

Yes, yes, we know you are wrong. But that is the first step to admitting
that you have a big problem.

JB

(OT) : Energy for a Strong America and a Healthy US Economy
 

Dave wrote:
On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 19:45:52 +0000, D Peter Maus wrote:


No, actually, you were talking about nothing of the kind. You were on
your usual rant.

And that's all it is. A rant.

I notice you've not once commented on anything Randi Rhodes has said.
Never called Tom Daschle or Harry Reid a liar.

You just make the same lock step noise about corporate evil, right
wing fascism, and the end of the Republic.

To borrow a signature from a member of another newsgroup I frequent:

You are like an uninvited guest at a picnic, who insists the potato
salad may have gone bad.

You seem to hang with a lot of grouchy people.

Randi Rhodes isn't trying to destroy the middle class, so she doesn't
bother me so much. A corporation cannot be evil; that is a personal
attribute. Corporations do what politicians and courts allow them to
do. People elect politicians to represent their best interests. The
news media is supposed to also represent the people, and keep the
politicians under close scrutiny. This is a basic tenet of Jeffersonian
Democracy. As that function has broken down, the Republic is doomed.
The media are nothing but cheerleaders for Daddy Warbucks,


Have you been paying attention to the coverage of Obama this week?
This is Daddy Warbucks?

(OT) : Energy for a Strong America and a Healthy US Economy
 

On Jul 24, 11:19*pm, D Peter Maus wrote:
Dave wrote:
On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 19:45:52 +0000, D Peter Maus wrote:

* *No, actually, you were talking about nothing of the kind. You were on
your usual rant.

* *And that's all it is. A rant.

* *I notice you've not once commented on anything Randi Rhodes has said.
Never called Tom Daschle or Harry Reid a liar.

* *You just make the same lock step noise about corporate evil, right
wing fascism, and the end of the Republic.

* *To borrow a signature from a member of another newsgroup I frequent:

* *You are like an uninvited guest at a picnic, who insists the potato
salad may have gone bad.

You seem to hang with a lot of grouchy people.

Randi Rhodes isn't trying to destroy the middle class, so she doesn't
bother me so much. *A corporation cannot be evil; *that is a personal
attribute. *Corporations do what politicians and courts allow them to
do. *People elect politicians to represent their best interests. *The
news media is supposed to also represent the people, *and keep the
politicians under close scrutiny. *This is a basic tenet of Jeffersonian
Democracy. *As that function has broken down, the Republic is doomed. *
The media are nothing but cheerleaders for Daddy Warbucks,

-*Have you been paying attention to the coverage
- of Obama this week?
- This is Daddy Warbucks?

Now that Obama Says It . . . It Must Be So !
[ The World According to Barack Hussein Obama II ]

The Faithful Follow the Great Citizen of the World ~ RHF

(OT) : Energy for a Strong America and a Healthy US Economy
 

RHF wrote:

Now that Obama Says It . . . It Must Be So !
[ The World According to Barack Hussein Obama II ]

The Faithful Follow the Great Citizen of the World ~ RHF


I thought you wanted us to be #1 in something besides killing.

(OT) : Energy for a Strong America and a Healthy US Economy
 

D Peter Maus wrote:

Have you been paying attention to the coverage of Obama this week?
This is Daddy Warbucks?


How about CBS editing out major McCain foreign policy gaffe a couple
days ago? WTF is that about?

(OT) : Energy for a Strong America and a Healthy US Economy
 

Dave wrote:

D Peter Maus wrote:



Have you been paying attention to the coverage of Obama this week?
This is Daddy Warbucks?

That is ratings-driven infotainment. People can't take their eyes off
him. Let's face it, Mr. McCain doesn't really ooze charisma.

The subject however is the lack of diverse opinions on the talk radio
and the distorted impression of what is mainstream opinion that
distortion creates.

The problem is, for whatever reason, *Liberal* talk radio can't seem to find a
loyal enough listener base that would encourage advertisers, so therefore they
either fail, or on a limited number of outlets.

It would seem to me that advertisers don't really care what political persuasion
buyers of their product(s) are as long as their money is green.

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Dave wrote:
D Peter Maus wrote:



Have you been paying attention to the coverage of Obama this week?
This is Daddy Warbucks?

That is ratings-driven infotainment. People can't take their eyes off
him. Let's face it, Mr. McCain doesn't really ooze charisma.

The subject however is the lack of diverse opinions on the talk radio
and the distorted impression of what is mainstream opinion that
distortion creates.



Ah. So, only talk radio need be balanced. Got it.

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Dave wrote:
D Peter Maus wrote:

Have you been paying attention to the coverage of Obama this week?
This is Daddy Warbucks?


How about CBS editing out major McCain foreign policy gaffe a couple
days ago? WTF is that about?


What are you complaining about...I thought the problem was only talk
radio.

Make up your mind, Buckwheat.

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"D Peter Maus" wrote in message
...
Dave wrote:
D Peter Maus wrote:



Have you been paying attention to the coverage of Obama this week?
This is Daddy Warbucks?

That is ratings-driven infotainment. People can't take their eyes off
him. Let's face it, Mr. McCain doesn't really ooze charisma.

The subject however is the lack of diverse opinions on the talk radio and
the distorted impression of what is mainstream opinion that distortion
creates.



Ah. So, only talk radio need be balanced. Got it.

Balance has nothing to do with it. Their goal is to stifle free speech.
Conservative speech that is. They can't succeed in the open market so they
need Congress to do it for them.

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"Dave" wrote in message
...
D Peter Maus wrote:

Have you been paying attention to the coverage of Obama this week? This
is Daddy Warbucks?


How about CBS editing out major McCain foreign policy gaffe a couple days
ago? WTF is that about?

How about the MSM editing out ALL of Obamas numerous gaffes?

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dxAce wrote:

Dave wrote:

D Peter Maus wrote:


Have you been paying attention to the coverage of Obama this week?
This is Daddy Warbucks?

That is ratings-driven infotainment. People can't take their eyes off
him. Let's face it, Mr. McCain doesn't really ooze charisma.

The subject however is the lack of diverse opinions on the talk radio
and the distorted impression of what is mainstream opinion that
distortion creates.

The problem is, for whatever reason, *Liberal* talk radio can't seem to find a
loyal enough listener base that would encourage advertisers, so therefore they
either fail, or on a limited number of outlets.

It would seem to me that advertisers don't really care what political persuasion
buyers of their product(s) are as long as their money is green.


Perhaps that's because the format is often on weaker stations with
****ty signals, vs. the righties being on flamethrowers. The
Progressive Talk format does better on key demos in a few markets, and
beats sports talk in quite a few more.

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Dave wrote:

dxAce wrote:

Dave wrote:

D Peter Maus wrote:


Have you been paying attention to the coverage of Obama this week?
This is Daddy Warbucks?

That is ratings-driven infotainment. People can't take their eyes off
him. Let's face it, Mr. McCain doesn't really ooze charisma.

The subject however is the lack of diverse opinions on the talk radio
and the distorted impression of what is mainstream opinion that
distortion creates.

The problem is, for whatever reason, *Liberal* talk radio can't seem to find a
loyal enough listener base that would encourage advertisers, so therefore they
either fail, or on a limited number of outlets.

It would seem to me that advertisers don't really care what political persuasion
buyers of their product(s) are as long as their money is green.


Perhaps that's because the format is often on weaker stations with
****ty signals, vs. the righties being on flamethrowers.

Read the above again, dumbass.

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D Peter Maus wrote:
Dave wrote:
D Peter Maus wrote:



Have you been paying attention to the coverage of Obama this week?
This is Daddy Warbucks?

That is ratings-driven infotainment. People can't take their eyes off
him. Let's face it, Mr. McCain doesn't really ooze charisma.

The subject however is the lack of diverse opinions on the talk radio
and the distorted impression of what is mainstream opinion that
distortion creates.



Ah. So, only talk radio need be balanced. Got it.

It is a finite resource and part of the commons. It should not be used
to the detriment of one part of the people while advancing the interests
of a much smaller part of society.

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MNMikeW wrote:
"Dave" wrote in message
...
D Peter Maus wrote:
Have you been paying attention to the coverage of Obama this week? This
is Daddy Warbucks?

How about CBS editing out major McCain foreign policy gaffe a couple days
ago? WTF is that about?

How about the MSM editing out ALL of Obamas numerous gaffes?


If they are doing that how do you know about them, whatever they are?

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Dave wrote:
D Peter Maus wrote:
Dave wrote:
D Peter Maus wrote:



Have you been paying attention to the coverage of Obama this week?
This is Daddy Warbucks?

That is ratings-driven infotainment. People can't take their eyes
off him. Let's face it, Mr. McCain doesn't really ooze charisma.

The subject however is the lack of diverse opinions on the talk radio
and the distorted impression of what is mainstream opinion that
distortion creates.



Ah. So, only talk radio need be balanced. Got it.

It is a finite resource and part of the commons. It should not be used
to the detriment of one part of the people while advancing the interests
of a much smaller part of society.



And who gets to determine that? You?

If there were no lister interest, there would be no commercial
support, so there would be no program.

Suggesting that much smaller part of society....ain't so small.

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Dave wrote:
MNMikeW wrote:
"Dave" wrote in message
...
D Peter Maus wrote:
Have you been paying attention to the coverage of Obama this week?
This is Daddy Warbucks?

How about CBS editing out major McCain foreign policy gaffe a couple
days ago? WTF is that about?

How about the MSM editing out ALL of Obamas numerous gaffes?

If they are doing that how do you know about them, whatever they are?



And so there you do it, again...accepting without challenge the
validity of sources on one side of an issue, while challenging the
validity of the sources on the other side.

It would seem the only difference between you and Limbaugh is that
people listen to Rush.

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D Peter Maus wrote:
Dave wrote:
D Peter Maus wrote:
Dave wrote:
D Peter Maus wrote:



Have you been paying attention to the coverage of Obama this
week? This is Daddy Warbucks?

That is ratings-driven infotainment. People can't take their eyes
off him. Let's face it, Mr. McCain doesn't really ooze charisma.

The subject however is the lack of diverse opinions on the talk
radio and the distorted impression of what is mainstream opinion
that distortion creates.



Ah. So, only talk radio need be balanced. Got it.

It is a finite resource and part of the commons. It should not be
used to the detriment of one part of the people while advancing the
interests of a much smaller part of society.



And who gets to determine that? You?

If there were no lister interest, there would be no commercial
support, so there would be no program.

Suggesting that much smaller part of society....ain't so small.

If you think that the Limbaugh/Hannity/Savage axis represents the
mainstream you are wrong. Bush enjoys the support of maybe 1 out of 4
Americans. The war is opposed by 2 out of 3. We are the mainstream;
the righties are the radicals.