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Dave[_18_] July 25th 08 03:47 PM

(OT) : Energy for a Strong America and a Healthy US Economy
 
D Peter Maus wrote:
Dave wrote:
MNMikeW wrote:
"Dave" wrote in message
...
D Peter Maus wrote:
Have you been paying attention to the coverage of Obama this
week? This is Daddy Warbucks?

How about CBS editing out major McCain foreign policy gaffe a couple
days ago? WTF is that about?

How about the MSM editing out ALL of Obamas numerous gaffes?

If they are doing that how do you know about them, whatever they are?




And so there you do it, again...accepting without challenge the
validity of sources on one side of an issue, while challenging the
validity of the sources on the other side.

It would seem the only difference between you and Limbaugh is that
people listen to Rush.


There are not 2 sides to a fact.

dxAce July 25th 08 03:47 PM

(OT) : Energy for a Strong America and a Healthy US Economy
 


Dave wrote:

D Peter Maus wrote:
Dave wrote:
D Peter Maus wrote:
Dave wrote:
D Peter Maus wrote:



Have you been paying attention to the coverage of Obama this
week? This is Daddy Warbucks?

That is ratings-driven infotainment. People can't take their eyes
off him. Let's face it, Mr. McCain doesn't really ooze charisma.

The subject however is the lack of diverse opinions on the talk
radio and the distorted impression of what is mainstream opinion
that distortion creates.



Ah. So, only talk radio need be balanced. Got it.

It is a finite resource and part of the commons. It should not be
used to the detriment of one part of the people while advancing the
interests of a much smaller part of society.




And who gets to determine that? You?

If there were no lister interest, there would be no commercial
support, so there would be no program.

Suggesting that much smaller part of society....ain't so small.

If you think that the Limbaugh/Hannity/Savage axis represents the
mainstream you are wrong. Bush enjoys the support of maybe 1 out of 4
Americans. The war is opposed by 2 out of 3. We are the mainstream;
the righties are the radicals.


Gawd! I certainly hope that the mentally ill (such as yourself) are not the
mainstream!



D Peter Maus July 25th 08 04:07 PM

(OT) : Energy for a Strong America and a Healthy US Economy
 
Dave wrote:
D Peter Maus wrote:
Dave wrote:
D Peter Maus wrote:
Dave wrote:
D Peter Maus wrote:



Have you been paying attention to the coverage of Obama this
week? This is Daddy Warbucks?

That is ratings-driven infotainment. People can't take their eyes
off him. Let's face it, Mr. McCain doesn't really ooze charisma.

The subject however is the lack of diverse opinions on the talk
radio and the distorted impression of what is mainstream opinion
that distortion creates.



Ah. So, only talk radio need be balanced. Got it.

It is a finite resource and part of the commons. It should not be
used to the detriment of one part of the people while advancing the
interests of a much smaller part of society.




And who gets to determine that? You?

If there were no lister interest, there would be no commercial
support, so there would be no program.

Suggesting that much smaller part of society....ain't so small.

If you think that the Limbaugh/Hannity/Savage axis represents the
mainstream you are wrong. Bush enjoys the support of maybe 1 out of 4
Americans. The war is opposed by 2 out of 3. We are the mainstream;
the righties are the radicals.



And just who is 'we?'



RHF July 25th 08 05:38 PM

(OT) : Energy for a Strong America and a Healthy US Economy
 
On Jul 25, 5:34*am, Dave wrote:
D Peter Maus wrote:

* Have you been paying attention to the coverage of Obama this week?
This is Daddy Warbucks?


That is ratings-driven infotainment. *People can't take their eyes off
him. *Let's face it, Mr. McCain doesn't really ooze charisma.


- The subject however is the lack of diverse opinions on
- the talk radio and the distorted impression of what is
- mainstream opinion that distortion creates.

-re-write-
- The subject however is the lack of diverse opinions on
- the talk radio and the distorted impression of what is
- mainstream opinion that lack of diverse opinions creates.

RHF July 25th 08 05:41 PM

(OT) : Energy for a Strong America and a Healthy US Economy
 
On Jul 25, 5:39*am, Dave wrote:
D Peter Maus wrote:

* Have you been paying attention to the coverage of Obama this week?
This is Daddy Warbucks?


How about CBS editing out major McCain foreign policy gaffe a couple
days ago? *WTF is that about?


Dan Rather -aka- CBS -wrt- Clearly Bull ****

enough said ~ RHF

RHF July 25th 08 06:00 PM

(OT) : The Fairness Doctrine is Forced Liberal Indoctrination
 
On Jul 25, 5:43*am, dxAce wrote:
Dave wrote:
D Peter Maus wrote:


* Have you been paying attention to the coverage of Obama this week?
This is Daddy Warbucks?


That is ratings-driven infotainment. *People can't take their eyes off
him. *Let's face it, Mr. McCain doesn't really ooze charisma.


The subject however is the lack of diverse opinions on the talk radio
and the distorted impression of what is mainstream opinion that
distortion creates.


- The problem is, for whatever reason, *Liberal* talk radio
- can't seem to find a loyal enough listener base that
- would encourage advertisers, so therefore they either fail,
- or on a limited number of outlets.
-
- It would seem to me that advertisers don't really care
- what political persuasion buyers of their product(s) are
- as long as their money is green.

The Problem is *Liberal* Talk Radio already has 2800+
NPR {Public} FM Radio Stations that are preaching the
Left-Wing {so called Educated & Enlightened} Political
Line for Free without 'sponsers' so Commercial 'liberal'
Talk Radio's potential Listeners are already being served.

The NPR types are a loyal group of Radio Listeners who
listen to NPR type Programs as a Fashion Statement of
their Superior Education & Greater Enlightenment which
they know the common people will never be able to obtain
do to their simply being average people and not one of the
gifted and chozen-ones.

The Left-Wing and 'Liberals' want the Public Funding of
the NPR Radio Stations -and- to Silence the AM Radio
Stations that provide a Balance to the Liberal NPR Radio
Stations so that Only the Liberal Voice Will Be Heard.

the fairness doctrine is forced liberal indoctrination ~ RHF

RHF July 25th 08 06:07 PM

(OT) : First Lie - Left-Wing Radical {Liberal} Talk Radio is'Progressive'
 
On Jul 25, 7:02*am, Dave wrote:
dxAce wrote:

Dave wrote:


D Peter Maus wrote:


* Have you been paying attention to the coverage of Obama this week?
This is Daddy Warbucks?


That is ratings-driven infotainment. *People can't take their eyes off
him. *Let's face it, Mr. McCain doesn't really ooze charisma.


The subject however is the lack of diverse opinions on the talk radio
and the distorted impression of what is mainstream opinion that
distortion creates.


The problem is, for whatever reason, *Liberal* talk radio can't seem to find a
loyal enough listener base that would encourage advertisers, so therefore they
either fail, or on a limited number of outlets.


It would seem to me that advertisers don't really care what political persuasion
buyers of their product(s) are as long as their money is green.


Perhaps that's because the format is often on weaker stations with
****ty signals, vs. the righties being on flamethrowers.


-*The Progressive Talk format does better on key demos
- in a few markets, and beats sports talk in quite a few more.

First Lie - Left-Wing Radical {Liberal} Talk Radio is 'Progressive'
=NO= It is Left-Wing Political Propaganda !

Your so-called 'key demos' are College Students who are
"Parroting" their Left-Wing Radical {Liberal} Professors.

~ RHF



RHF July 25th 08 06:15 PM

(OT) : To Be Fair-and-Balance {Fairness Doctrine} the Number of NPRFM Radio Stations should by Law be Cut-in-Half.
 
On Jul 25, 7:04*am, Dave wrote:
D Peter Maus wrote:
Dave wrote:
D Peter Maus wrote:


* Have you been paying attention to the coverage of Obama this week?
This is Daddy Warbucks?


That is ratings-driven infotainment. *People can't take their eyes off
him. *Let's face it, Mr. McCain doesn't really ooze charisma.


The subject however is the lack of diverse opinions on the talk radio
and the distorted impression of what is mainstream opinion that
distortion creates.


* Ah. So, only talk radio need be balanced. Got it.


- It is a finite resource and part of the commons. *
- It should not be used to the detriment of one part
- of the people while advancing the interests of a
- much smaller part of society.

Balance the 2800+ Liberal NPR FM Radio Stations
{that are Tax Supported} -versus- The roughly 1000+
Conservative Commercial AM Radio Stations that
are Privately 'paid for' through Advertising.

To Be Fair-and-Balance {Fairness Doctrine} the Number
of NPR FM Radio Stations should by Law be Cut-in-Half.

~ RHF

RHF July 25th 08 06:21 PM

(OT) : DaviD -rants against- The Limbaugh/Hannity/Savage Axis of Evil!
 
On Jul 25, 7:46*am, Dave wrote:
D Peter Maus wrote:
Dave wrote:
D Peter Maus wrote:
Dave wrote:
D Peter Maus wrote:


* Have you been paying attention to the coverage of Obama this
week? This is Daddy Warbucks?


That is ratings-driven infotainment. *People can't take their eyes
off him. *Let's face it, Mr. McCain doesn't really ooze charisma.


The subject however is the lack of diverse opinions on the talk
radio and the distorted impression of what is mainstream opinion
that distortion creates.


* Ah. So, only talk radio need be balanced. Got it.


It is a finite resource and part of the commons. *It should not be
used to the detriment of one part of the people while advancing the
interests of a much smaller part of society.


* And who gets to determine that? You?


* If there were no lister interest, there would be no commercial
support, so there would be no program.


* Suggesting that much smaller part of society....ain't so small.


- If you think that the Limbaugh/Hannity/Savage axis
- represents the mainstream you are wrong.

DaviD -rants against- The Limbaugh/Hannity/Savage Axis of Evil !

-
-*Bush enjoys the support of maybe 1 out of 4 Americans.
-
-*The war is opposed by 2 out of 3.
-
- We are the mainstream;
- the righties are the radicals.

DaviD -proclaims- We Are The Mainstream !

Dave Dang Two in One Post :
This is a Banner Day For You ~ RHF

RHF July 25th 08 06:22 PM

(OT) : DaviD -proclaims- We Are The Mainstream !
 
On Jul 25, 7:46*am, Dave wrote:
D Peter Maus wrote:
Dave wrote:
D Peter Maus wrote:
Dave wrote:
D Peter Maus wrote:


* Have you been paying attention to the coverage of Obama this
week? This is Daddy Warbucks?


That is ratings-driven infotainment. *People can't take their eyes
off him. *Let's face it, Mr. McCain doesn't really ooze charisma.


The subject however is the lack of diverse opinions on the talk
radio and the distorted impression of what is mainstream opinion
that distortion creates.


* Ah. So, only talk radio need be balanced. Got it.


It is a finite resource and part of the commons. *It should not be
used to the detriment of one part of the people while advancing the
interests of a much smaller part of society.


* And who gets to determine that? You?


* If there were no lister interest, there would be no commercial
support, so there would be no program.


* Suggesting that much smaller part of society....ain't so small.


- If you think that the Limbaugh/Hannity/Savage axis
- represents the mainstream you are wrong.

DaviD -rants against- The Limbaugh/Hannity/Savage Axis of Evil !

-
- Bush enjoys the support of maybe 1 out of 4 Americans.
-
- The war is opposed by 2 out of 3.
-
- We are the mainstream;
- the righties are the radicals.

DaviD -proclaims- We Are The Mainstream !

Dave Dang Two in One Post :
This is a Banner Day For You ~ RHF

RHF July 25th 08 06:32 PM

(OT) : According to DaviD - There Are Not 2 Sides To A Fact.
 
On Jul 25, 7:47*am, Dave wrote:
D Peter Maus wrote:
Dave wrote:
MNMikeW wrote:
"Dave" wrote in message
. com...
D Peter Maus wrote:
* Have you been paying attention to the coverage of Obama this
week? This is Daddy Warbucks?


How about CBS editing out major McCain foreign policy gaffe a couple
days ago? *WTF is that about?


How about the MSM editing out ALL of Obamas numerous gaffes?


If they are doing that how do you know about them, whatever they are?


* And so there you do it, again...accepting without challenge the
validity of sources on one side of an issue, while challenging the
validity of the sources on the other side.


* It would seem the only difference between you and Limbaugh is that
people listen to Rush.


- There are not 2 sides to a fact.

According to DaviD - There Are Not 2 Sides To A Fact.

Actually Dave - Many Times There Are :

=Example= The Fact that 45% of Potential Voters
"Like" Barack Hussein Obama II :
* Side # 1 - 45% of Potential Voters "Like" Barack
Hussein Obama II {Good}
* Side # 2 - 55% of Potential Voters "Do Not Like" or
Could Care Less about Barack Hussein Obama II {Bad}

there are facts -and- there are facts ~ RHF

D Peter Maus July 25th 08 08:59 PM

(OT) : Energy for a Strong America and a Healthy US Economy
 
Dave wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 15:07:36 +0000, D Peter Maus wrote:


If you think that the Limbaugh/Hannity/Savage axis represents the
mainstream you are wrong. Bush enjoys the support of maybe 1 out of 4
Americans. The war is opposed by 2 out of 3. We are the mainstream;
the righties are the radicals.


And just who is 'we?'


The great unwashed.



And they all agree with you?

RHF July 25th 08 09:45 PM

(OT) : First Lie - Left-Wing Radical {Liberal} Talk Radio is'Progressive'
 
On Jul 25, 11:32*am, Dave wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 10:07:33 -0700, RHF wrote:

- - First Lie - Left-Wing Radical {Liberal} Talk Radio
- - is 'Progressive'
- - =NO= It is Left-Wing Political Propaganda !
- -
- - Your so-called 'key demos' are College Students who
- - are "Parroting" their Left-Wing Radical {Liberal} Professors.
- -
- - ~ RHF

- **** you.
-*Quit calling people you disagree with liars.
-*"Progressive Talk" is the name of the genre.
-*If you don't like it tell Clear Channel and Viacom.

DaviD -spoken like- A True Left-Wing Political Propagandist

So in "Dave's World" it is 'nicer' to Say : F*ck You
then to call someone a Liar.

Dave - Is truly a name -or- Missleading Brand ?
-or- Phony Marketing Buzz Word ?
-since- They know that the word "Liberal" does not Sell.

more liberal thinking ~ RHF

RHF July 25th 08 09:48 PM

(OT) : Dave - Don't Know If You Bath and Have OB . . .
 
On Jul 25, 11:25*am, Dave wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 15:07:36 +0000, D Peter Maus wrote:

If you think that the Limbaugh/Hannity/Savage axis represents the
mainstream you are wrong. *Bush enjoys the support of maybe 1 out of 4
Americans. *The war is opposed by 2 out of 3. *We are the mainstream;
the righties are the radicals.


- - And just who is 'we?'

- The great unwashed.

Dave - Don't Know If You Bath and Have OB . . .

but your ideas stink ~ RHF

RHF July 25th 08 09:58 PM

(OT) : DaviD -rants against- The Limbaugh/Hannity/Savage Axis ofEvil !
 
On Jul 25, 11:35*am, Dave wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 10:21:08 -0700, RHF wrote:


- - DaviD -rants against- The Limbaugh/Hannity/Savage Axis of Evil !

- Axis of fearmongering...

More Like Keep Freedom Alive !

A Positive Message for American Citizens -to-
Believe-In - What They Believe In ! -and to-
Stand-Up For What They Believe In !

A Positive Message for American Citizens -to-
Love American and Have Faith-In America -and-
Support America !

A Positive Message for American Citizens -to-
Work Hard and Prosper as Americans in our
Free Capitalistic System !

that's what i hear on the radio
and you call it fearmongering . . .
it boggles the mind ~ RHF

D Peter Maus July 25th 08 10:03 PM

(OT) : DaviD -rants against- The Limbaugh/Hannity/Savage Axisof Evil !
 
On Jul 25, 11:35 am, Dave wrote:

- Axis of fearmongering...



Only if you fear another point of view.






Dave[_17_] July 26th 08 12:49 AM

(OT) : DaviD -rants against- The Limbaugh/Hannity/Savage AxisofEvil !
 
On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 13:58:29 -0700, RHF wrote:

On Jul 25, 11:35Â*am, Dave wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 10:21:08 -0700, RHF wrote:


- - DaviD -rants against- The Limbaugh/Hannity/Savage Axis of Evil !

- Axis of fearmongering...

More Like Keep Freedom Alive !

A Positive Message for American Citizens -to- Believe-In - What They
Believe In ! -and to- Stand-Up For What They Believe In !

A Positive Message for American Citizens -to- Love American and Have
Faith-In America -and- Support America !

A Positive Message for American Citizens -to- Work Hard and Prosper as
Americans in our Free Capitalistic System !

that's what i hear on the radio
and you call it fearmongering . . .
it boggles the mind ~ RHF
.


Define "freedom".

Telamon July 26th 08 01:07 AM

(OT) : Energy for a Strong America and a Healthy US Economy
 
In article ,
Dave wrote:

MNMikeW wrote:
"Dave" wrote in message
...
D Peter Maus wrote:
Have you been paying attention to the coverage of Obama this
week? This
is Daddy Warbucks?

How about CBS editing out major McCain foreign policy gaffe a
couple days ago? WTF is that about?


How about the MSM editing out ALL of Obamas numerous gaffes?


If they are doing that how do you know about them, whatever they are?



I can see you have been a busy boy posting your usual drug addled nut
case rants.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

RHF July 26th 08 03:14 AM

(OT) : DaviD -asks- Define "Freedom"
 
On Jul 25, 4:49*pm, Dave wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 13:58:29 -0700, RHF wrote:
On Jul 25, 11:35*am, Dave wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 10:21:08 -0700, RHF wrote:


- - DaviD -rants against- The Limbaugh/Hannity/Savage Axis of Evil !


- Axis of fearmongering...


More Like Keep Freedom Alive !


A Positive Message for American Citizens -to- Believe-In - What They
Believe In ! -and to- Stand-Up For What They Believe In !


A Positive Message for American Citizens -to- Love American and Have
Faith-In America -and- Support America !


A Positive Message for American Citizens -to- Work Hard and Prosper as
Americans in our Free Capitalistic System !


that's what i hear on the radio
and you call it fearmongering . . .
it boggles the mind ~ RHF
*.


- Define "freedom".

Freedom the 'feeling' of Being Free {Free Being}
living without artificial limits imposed by a society
of other person(s)

The Smell of Freedom In Every Breath You Take
- - - The Freedom To Exhale !

The Taste of Freedom In Every Mouth of Water that
you Drink - - - The Freedom to Replenish Your Self
with something as simply as natural flowing water.

The Freedom to Grow and Eat your own Food and
provide for Your Self - - - The Freedom to Nourish
Your Self with something as simply as wholesome
food.

The Freedom to Think for Your Self and Know Your
Own Mind. The Power of Free Though and Action.
- - - Defining Freedom For Your Self [.]

freedom is a 'feeling' - you got it or you don't
and to many/most 'feelings' are FACTs ~ RHF

m II July 26th 08 08:34 AM

(OT) : Energy for a Strong America and a Healthy US Economy
 
dxAce wrote:

Gawd! I certainly hope that the mentally ill (such as yourself) are not the
mainstream!


Tell us more about your friend who was murdered in that three way
homosexual love triangle. Were you cleared of all charges? How did the
troops in your militia respond to the news of their Supreme Commander
being associated with a homosexual murder?



mike

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RHF July 26th 08 09:14 AM

(OT) : Mike - What is this Fixation of Yours with HomosexualActivities ?
 
On Jul 26, 12:34*am, m II wrote:
dxAce wrote:
Gawd! I certainly hope that the mentally ill (such as yourself) are not the
mainstream!


- Tell us more about your friend who was murdered
- in that three way homosexual love triangle.
- Were you cleared of all charges?
- How did the troops in your militia respond to the news
- of their Supreme Commander being associated with a
- homosexual murder?
-
- mike

Mike,

What is this Fixation of Yours with Homosexual Activities ?
* homosexual love triangle
* homosexual murder

mike - it sure does appear that you have a 'problem'
as reflected by the content of many of your posts ~ RHF

Brenda Ann July 26th 08 09:49 AM

(OT) : Energy for a Strong America and a Healthy US Economy
 

"David Eduardo" wrote in message
...

Progressive does well in one market, Portland, but still does not beat KEX
even though it is on a better signal.


How do you get a "better signal" than KEX? 50KW that can be heard over most
of western Oregon and SW Washington all day long, and is still the best
signal in the metro area at night.. and don't talk to me about contours,
I've lived in Portland most of my life, and know very well which signals are
best in which areas. (the old KISN 910 was easily the worst nighttime signal
in the area, and didn't come close to covering it's market at night. Still,
it was, for a very long time, in the top three stations in the market, even
though there were problems on many radios with IF doubling causing
interference to their signal...)




dxAce July 26th 08 10:55 AM

(OT) : Energy for a Strong America and a Healthy US Economy
 


m II wrote:

dxAce wrote:

Gawd! I certainly hope that the mentally ill (such as yourself) are not the
mainstream!


Tell us more about your friend who was murdered in that three way
homosexual love triangle.


Friend? I never met the two folks who were murdered.

Were you cleared of all charges?


What charges, boy?

How did the
troops in your militia respond to the news of their Supreme Commander
being associated with a homosexual murder?


I was not associated in any way, therefore, being the good troops that they are,
they had no comment!

Now you go grab that shine box, you mentally ill little boy, and get busy.


Dave[_18_] July 26th 08 02:54 PM

(OT) : DaviD -asks- Define "Freedom"
 
RHF wrote:
On Jul 25, 4:49 pm, Dave wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 13:58:29 -0700, RHF wrote:
On Jul 25, 11:35 am, Dave wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 10:21:08 -0700, RHF wrote:
- - DaviD -rants against- The Limbaugh/Hannity/Savage Axis of Evil !
- Axis of fearmongering...
More Like Keep Freedom Alive !
A Positive Message for American Citizens -to- Believe-In - What They
Believe In ! -and to- Stand-Up For What They Believe In !
A Positive Message for American Citizens -to- Love American and Have
Faith-In America -and- Support America !
A Positive Message for American Citizens -to- Work Hard and Prosper as
Americans in our Free Capitalistic System !
that's what i hear on the radio
and you call it fearmongering . . .
it boggles the mind ~ RHF
.


- Define "freedom".

Freedom the 'feeling' of Being Free {Free Being}
living without artificial limits imposed by a society
of other person(s)

The Smell of Freedom In Every Breath You Take
- - - The Freedom To Exhale !

The Taste of Freedom In Every Mouth of Water that
you Drink - - - The Freedom to Replenish Your Self
with something as simply as natural flowing water.

The Freedom to Grow and Eat your own Food and
provide for Your Self - - - The Freedom to Nourish
Your Self with something as simply as wholesome
food.

The Freedom to Think for Your Self and Know Your
Own Mind. The Power of Free Though and Action.
- - - Defining Freedom For Your Self [.]

freedom is a 'feeling' - you got it or you don't
and to many/most 'feelings' are FACTs ~ RHF
.
=PS= Freedom ~ Liberty
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberty
.


How about freedom from owing money to the Chinese? Not all that new-age
twaddle you just spewed.

Where's that list of liberal advocacy programs from NPR?

Dave[_18_] July 26th 08 02:55 PM

(OT) : Energy for a Strong America and a Healthy US Economy
 
David Eduardo wrote:
"Dave" wrote in message
...
dxAce wrote:

It would seem to me that advertisers don't really care what political
persuasion
buyers of their product(s) are as long as their money is green.


Perhaps that's because the format is often on weaker stations with ****ty
signals, vs. the righties being on flamethrowers.


Progressive talk or liberal talk or whatever name you give it has been on
excellent signals in some markets, like 50 kw WINZ 940 in Miami and even
1150 in LA, a decent full market signal. It did not do at all well in any
market even when the signal, as far as the rated market was concerned, was
competitive.

KTLK interrupts frequently with live sports and runs infomercials all
weekend long. They have a ****ty signal at night.

m II July 26th 08 03:54 PM

(OT) : Mike - What is this Fixation of Yours with HomosexualActivities ?
 
RHF wrote:

mike - it sure does appear that you have a 'problem'
as reflected by the content of many of your posts ~ RHF



You seem to think *I* have a problem when I quote other postings. Why
don't you complain about the original messages? Do you think there's ANY
possibility of the problem being with THOSE people?

A few examples:

dxAce's invitations for some 'Mutual Respect':
=======================================
Jerking off not enough for you, boy?

Do you spit or swallow?

Very tasty!

Actually, I know quite a few homosexuals.




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David Eduardo[_4_] July 26th 08 09:19 PM

(OT) : Energy for a Strong America and a Healthy US Economy
 

"Brenda Ann" wrote in message
...

"David Eduardo" wrote in message
...

Progressive does well in one market, Portland, but still does not beat
KEX even though it is on a better signal.


How do you get a "better signal" than KEX? 50KW that can be heard over
most of western Oregon and SW Washington all day long, and is still the
best signal in the metro area at night.. and don't talk to me about
contours,


The "new" 620 signal, day and night, conforms much better to the MSA, which
is what radio ratings, sales and survival are about. KEX, on a much higher
frequecy, does similarly by day, but at night the protection requirements
make it less viable in the metro than KPOJ on the supoerior 620 channel with
a less severe pattern.

I've lived in Portland most of my life, and know very well which signals
are best in which areas. (the old KISN 910 was easily the worst nighttime
signal in the area, and didn't come close to covering it's market at
night. Still, it was, for a very long time, in the top three stations in
the market, even though there were problems on many radios with IF
doubling causing interference to their signal...)


That was in the 60's (till Don Burden lost the license) when the metro area
had a single county definition and the audience was measured by Pulse and
Hooper, not Arbitron. Boy, you had to go back 5 decades to find irrelevant
data on that one.






Brenda Ann July 26th 08 11:32 PM

(OT) : Energy for a Strong America and a Healthy US Economy
 

"David Eduardo" wrote in message
...

"Brenda Ann" wrote in message
...

"David Eduardo" wrote in message
...

Progressive does well in one market, Portland, but still does not beat
KEX even though it is on a better signal.


How do you get a "better signal" than KEX? 50KW that can be heard over
most of western Oregon and SW Washington all day long, and is still the
best signal in the metro area at night.. and don't talk to me about
contours,


The "new" 620 signal, day and night, conforms much better to the MSA,
which is what radio ratings, sales and survival are about. KEX, on a much
higher frequecy, does similarly by day, but at night the protection
requirements make it less viable in the metro than KPOJ on the supoerior
620 channel with a less severe pattern.

I've lived in Portland most of my life, and know very well which signals
are best in which areas. (the old KISN 910 was easily the worst nighttime
signal in the area, and didn't come close to covering it's market at
night. Still, it was, for a very long time, in the top three stations in
the market, even though there were problems on many radios with IF
doubling causing interference to their signal...)


That was in the 60's (till Don Burden lost the license) when the metro
area had a single county definition and the audience was measured by Pulse
and Hooper, not Arbitron. Boy, you had to go back 5 decades to find
irrelevant data on that one.


First, your math sucks. Five decades ago, I was 3 years old, and could not
have possibly cared less about radio. Next, KISN was #1-3 in the market
during the early to mid 1970's, when Star Broadcasting held the license,
before they started doing what Faux News, Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity do
freely and openly nowadays, and lost ALL their licenses.



David Eduardo[_4_] July 27th 08 01:58 AM

(OT) : Energy for a Strong America and a Healthy US Economy
 

"Brenda Ann" wrote in message
...


That was in the 60's (till Don Burden lost the license) when the metro
area had a single county definition and the audience was measured by
Pulse and Hooper, not Arbitron. Boy, you had to go back 5 decades to find
irrelevant data on that one.


First, your math sucks. Five decades ago, I was 3 years old, and could
not have possibly cared less about radio. Next, KISN was #1-3 in the
market during the early to mid 1970's, when Star Broadcasting held the
license, before they started doing what Faux News, Rush Limbaugh and Sean
Hannity do freely and openly nowadays, and lost ALL their licenses.


KISN lost its license over bribing and ex parte contact with a Senator,
along with Burden's Indianapolis and Omaha AMs along with two FMs. While the
final decision was in 1975, the stations had all been on the decline since
the proceedings began some five years earlier; the Indianapolis station had
never received a full 3-year renewal since Burden bought it in 1963 due to
other FCC transgressions. Oh, of course the famous "lack of candor" hastened
the 5-station revocations.

"Star" was Burden, 100%. He had no other shareholders. Like most stations,
KISN was held by a corporation for liability purposes and in this case
Burden was sole owner.

In the "mid 70's" year of 1975, where I have full ratings, KISN was 9th for
the full year average. It was certainly not #1 to #3 anywhere in "The mid
70's" as by 1977 more than half the shares were on FM, and in younger demos,
nearly all the shares.

In any case, Fox News and Limbaugh and Hannity have not even been accused of
bribing and engaging in illegal ex parte discussions with congresspersons...
the reason Burden lost his licenses. From every indication, he was a real
piece of work and a testimony to why consolidation is good for radio.

In any case, what killed the station more than anything else was the
expansion of the metro to areas the signal did not cover.



Brenda Ann July 27th 08 03:10 AM

(OT) : Energy for a Strong America and a Healthy US Economy
 

"David Eduardo" wrote in message
...

In any case, what killed the station more than anything else was the
expansion of the metro to areas the signal did not cover.


As I said previously, it didn't cover most of the metro from the get-go.
It's nighttime pattern gave it a great signal right up along the Columbia,
but by the time you were 30-40 blocks south of the river, the signal was
poor, and, as I also stated earlier, there was a problem with IF doubling in
a lot of radios that caused a heterodyne in their signal, mostly at night
when it was poorer than daytime.

One of the primary reasons for loss of license was violations (lots of them)
of the Fairness Doctrine. They were in the tank for several politicians on
various levels, and pushed those politicians' agendas on the air and behind
closed doors.

Kind of funny, that you would never hear about any of this on the radio or
TV.. only in the newspapers. You would think that something like that would
have been all over the competitions' news programs. KGW and KISN were in a
toe-to-toe slugging match for a long while. KGW had their own signal
problems... in some parts of their pattern, they had a nice hum in the
carrier. The two stations sort of complimented each other. KISN had their
beam to the west, KGW had theirs to the south. Ironically, I think the two
plants share the original 910 antenna system now. KGW used to have theirs in
a nice open rather swampy area, which definately helped their local
coverage. KISN put in a good signal on the coast (Astoria, Seaside) due to
their pattern.




David Eduardo[_4_] July 27th 08 04:15 AM

(OT) : Energy for a Strong America and a Healthy US Economy
 

"Brenda Ann" wrote in message
...

"David Eduardo" wrote in message
...

In any case, what killed the station more than anything else was the
expansion of the metro to areas the signal did not cover.


As I said previously, it didn't cover most of the metro from the get-go.
It's nighttime pattern gave it a great signal right up along the Columbia,
but by the time you were 30-40 blocks south of the river, the signal was
poor,


And the market was not even the whole county in Pulse or Hooper.

One of the primary reasons for loss of license was violations (lots of
them) of the Fairness Doctrine. They were in the tank for several
politicians on various levels, and pushed those politicians' agendas on
the air and behind closed doors.


That's not true. The biggest infraction was bribing a congressman and ex
parte dealing with several others.

In addition, the news on the Burden stations was slanted to favor candidates
and politicians who Burden favored via clever writing. This was not
"Fairness" at all but slanting the news; Fairness requires equal time...
slanting the news falsely was considered then a character qualification.
Today, it's irrelevant.

But the big issue was the bribing and ex parte stuff, the same things that
did in Channel 7 in Miaami and one of the Orlando TV's at the same time.




RHF July 27th 08 10:31 PM

(OT) : Mike - What is this Fixation of Yours with HomosexualActivities ?
 
On Jul 26, 7:54*am, m II wrote:
- - RHF wrote:
- - mike - *it sure does appear that you have a 'problem'
- - as reflected by the content of many of your posts ~ RHF

- You seem to think *I* have a problem when I quote
- other postings.
- Why don't you complain about the original messages?
- Do you think there's ANY possibility of the problem being
- with THOSE people?

Mike - Fact did DX Ace write "homosexual love triangle" NO
-but- now you are implying or claiming that he did.
-translation- You Got A Problem.

Mike - Fact did DX Ace write "homosexual murder" NO
-but- now you are implying or claiming that he did.
-translation- You Got A Problem.

your words are your reality ~ RHF

m II July 28th 08 06:31 AM

(OT) : Mike - What is this Fixation of Yours with HomosexualActivities ?
 
RHF wrote:

Mike - Fact did DX Ace write "homosexual love triangle" NO
-but- now you are implying or claiming that he did.
-translation- You Got A Problem.


It would appear you have a reading comprehension problem. His exact
words we

===================================
Unfortunately, a good number of years ago, he and another of his cronies
killed two individuals whom were apparently involved in some kind of
'love triangle'.
===================================

Would you like to see his entire posting?


mike




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RHF July 28th 08 08:53 AM

(OT) : Mike - What is this Fixation of Yours with HomosexualActivities ?
 
On Jul 27, 10:31*pm, m II wrote:
RHF wrote:
Mike - Fact did DX Ace write "homosexual love triangle" NO
-but- now you are implying or claiming that he did.
-translation- You Got A Problem.


It would appear you have a reading comprehension problem. His exact
words we

===================================
Unfortunately, a good number of years ago, he and another of his cronies
killed two individuals whom were apparently involved in some kind of
'love triangle'.
===================================

Would you like to see his entire posting?

mike


What May have been written 'a good number
of years ago' may be true or not . . .

But Clearly Today -mike- You Got A Problem !

dxAce July 28th 08 11:33 AM

(OT) : Mike - What is this Fixation of Yours withHomosexualActivities ?
 


m II wrote:

RHF wrote:

Mike - Fact did DX Ace write "homosexual love triangle" NO
-but- now you are implying or claiming that he did.
-translation- You Got A Problem.


It would appear you have a reading comprehension problem. His exact
words we

===================================
Unfortunately, a good number of years ago, he and another of his cronies
killed two individuals whom were apparently involved in some kind of
'love triangle'.
===================================


Best you grab that shine box, you mentally ill little boy, and get busy!



m II July 28th 08 02:48 PM

(OT) : Mike - What is this Fixation of Yours with HomosexualActivities ?
 
RHF wrote:

On Jul 27, 10:31 pm, m II wrote:
RHF wrote:
Mike - Fact did DX Ace write "homosexual love triangle" NO
-but- now you are implying or claiming that he did.
-translation- You Got A Problem.


It would appear you have a reading comprehension problem. His exact
words we

===================================
Unfortunately, a good number of years ago, he and another of his cronies
killed two individuals whom were apparently involved in some kind of
'love triangle'.
===================================


What May have been written 'a good number
of years ago' may be true or not . . .

But Clearly Today -mike- You Got A Problem !



Mon, 21 Jul 2008 22:28:28 is NOT a good number of years ago.



**-------- Original Message --------
From: - Mon Jul 21 20:47:42 2008
Message-ID:
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 22:28:28 -0400
From: dxAce
Organization: "The Listener At The Gates Of Dawn"
X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: 216.234.120.49

m II wrote:

dxAce wrote:

m II wrote:

dxAcehole, America's Finest, wrote:


RHF, I gotta laugh because my first reaction was the same as yours
regarding the 'fecal matter'.


It's MALE fecal matter. Aroused yet?


No, but I'm certain that you are, dumbass!


Speaking of your homosexual tendencies, may I present a blast from
your sordid past?


dxAce's invitations for some 'Mutual Respect':
=======================================
Jerking off not enough for you, boy?

Do you spit or swallow?

Very tasty!

Actually, I know quite a few homosexuals.


Ya know, I knew one years ago, and at the time he was kinda suspect.

Unfortunately, a good number of years ago, he and another of his cronies
killed two individuals whom were apparently involved in some kind of
'love triangle'.

The interesting thing is that one of the guys was a Canadian citizen
(one who was killed) who volunteered during the Vietnam War as a medic
with (I think) the US Army.

Fortunately, he, and the other guy, were convicted in the past few
weeks, after a 'cold case investigation' had been re-opened, and
apparently sentenced to spend the rest of their lives in prison.
====================================


RHF, your reading comprehension and MEMORY are failing. The "Ace' posted
this exactly ONE WEEK ago. You should remember, he was replying to YOU.



mike


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dxAce July 28th 08 02:52 PM

(OT) : Mike - What is this Fixation of Yours withHomosexualActivities ?
 


m II wrote:

RHF wrote:

On Jul 27, 10:31 pm, m II wrote:
RHF wrote:
Mike - Fact did DX Ace write "homosexual love triangle" NO
-but- now you are implying or claiming that he did.
-translation- You Got A Problem.


It would appear you have a reading comprehension problem. His exact
words we

===================================
Unfortunately, a good number of years ago, he and another of his cronies
killed two individuals whom were apparently involved in some kind of
'love triangle'.
===================================


What May have been written 'a good number
of years ago' may be true or not . . .

But Clearly Today -mike- You Got A Problem !


Mon, 21 Jul 2008 22:28:28 is NOT a good number of years ago.

**-------- Original Message --------
From: - Mon Jul 21 20:47:42 2008
Message-ID:
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 22:28:28 -0400
From: dxAce
Organization: "The Listener At The Gates Of Dawn"
X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: 216.234.120.49

m II wrote:

dxAce wrote:

m II wrote:

dxAcehole, America's Finest, wrote:


RHF, I gotta laugh because my first reaction was the same as yours
regarding the 'fecal matter'.


It's MALE fecal matter. Aroused yet?


No, but I'm certain that you are, dumbass!


Speaking of your homosexual tendencies, may I present a blast from
your sordid past?


dxAce's invitations for some 'Mutual Respect':
=======================================
Jerking off not enough for you, boy?

Do you spit or swallow?

Very tasty!

Actually, I know quite a few homosexuals.


Ya know, I knew one years ago, and at the time he was kinda suspect.

Unfortunately, a good number of years ago, he and another of his cronies
killed two individuals whom were apparently involved in some kind of
'love triangle'.

The interesting thing is that one of the guys was a Canadian citizen
(one who was killed) who volunteered during the Vietnam War as a medic
with (I think) the US Army.

Fortunately, he, and the other guy, were convicted in the past few
weeks, after a 'cold case investigation' had been re-opened, and
apparently sentenced to spend the rest of their lives in prison.
====================================

RHF, your reading comprehension and MEMORY are failing. The "Ace' posted
this exactly ONE WEEK ago. You should remember, he was replying to YOU.


Mike, best you grab that shine box, like the mentally ill little boy you are,
and hit the street and make something of yourself!

And by the way, it seems as though Health CanaDuh is shorting you on your meds.



RHF July 28th 08 03:58 PM

(OT) : Mike - What is this Fixation of Yours with HomosexualActivities ?
 
On Jul 28, 6:48*am, m II wrote:
RHF wrote:
On Jul 27, 10:31 pm, m II wrote:
RHF wrote:
Mike - Fact did DX Ace write "homosexual love triangle" NO
-but- now you are implying or claiming that he did.
-translation- You Got A Problem.
It would appear you have a reading comprehension problem. His exact
words we


Mike -wrote-
- - - ===================================
- - - Unfortunately, a good number of years ago,
- - - he and another of his cronies
- - - killed two individuals whom were apparently
- - - involved in some kind of 'love triangle'.
- - - ===================================

RHF -wrote- {Quoting Mike}
- - What May have been written 'a good number
- - of years ago' may be true or not . . .
- -
- - But Clearly Today -mike- You Got A Problem !

Mike -then wrote-
- Mon, 21 Jul 2008 22:28:28 is NOT a good number of years ago.

-note- Attempting to 'correct' RHF.

MEANING THAT MIKE'S FIRST STATEMENT WAS A LIE [.]

Once Again : Clearly Today -mike- You Got A Problem !

Mike - What is this Fixation of Yours with Homosexual Activities ?

m II July 28th 08 04:16 PM

(OT) : Mike - What is this Fixation of Yours with HomosexualActivities ?
 
RHF wrote:

MEANING THAT MIKE'S FIRST STATEMENT WAS A LIE [.]


You really should learn how to read. No amount of obfuscation on your
part will change what's been written.


Mike - What is this Fixation of Yours with Homosexual Activities ?


I don't like perverts soliciting sex on this newsgroup. One of them even
put his phone number here, probably in reference to his depraved lust
for fellatio.

Care to see his solicitations?


mike

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RHF July 29th 08 11:39 AM

(OT) : Mike - What is this Fixation of Yours with HomosexualActivities ?
 
On Jul 28, 8:16*am, m II wrote:
RHF wrote:
MEANING THAT MIKE'S FIRST STATEMENT WAS A LIE [.]


You really should learn how to read. No amount of obfuscation on your
part will change what's been written.


- - Mike - What is this Fixation of Yours with Homosexual Activities ?

- I don't like perverts soliciting sex on this newsgroup.
- One of them even put his phone number here, probably
- in reference to his depraved lust for fellatio.
-
- Care to see his solicitations?
-
- mike

Mike -no- That would make you a 'pimp'. ~ RHF


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