"David Eduardo" wrote in message
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"Brenda Ann" wrote in message
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"David Eduardo" wrote in message
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Progressive does well in one market, Portland, but still does not beat
KEX even though it is on a better signal.

How do you get a "better signal" than KEX? 50KW that can be heard over
most of western Oregon and SW Washington all day long, and is still the
best signal in the metro area at night.. and don't talk to me about
contours,

The "new" 620 signal, day and night, conforms much better to the MSA,
which is what radio ratings, sales and survival are about. KEX, on a much
higher frequecy, does similarly by day, but at night the protection
requirements make it less viable in the metro than KPOJ on the supoerior
620 channel with a less severe pattern.

I've lived in Portland most of my life, and know very well which signals
are best in which areas. (the old KISN 910 was easily the worst nighttime
signal in the area, and didn't come close to covering it's market at
night. Still, it was, for a very long time, in the top three stations in
the market, even though there were problems on many radios with IF
doubling causing interference to their signal...)

That was in the 60's (till Don Burden lost the license) when the metro
area had a single county definition and the audience was measured by Pulse
and Hooper, not Arbitron. Boy, you had to go back 5 decades to find
irrelevant data on that one.

First, your math sucks. Five decades ago, I was 3 years old, and could not
have possibly cared less about radio. Next, KISN was #1-3 in the market
during the early to mid 1970's, when Star Broadcasting held the license,
before they started doing what Faux News, Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity do
freely and openly nowadays, and lost ALL their licenses.

"Brenda Ann" wrote in message
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That was in the 60's (till Don Burden lost the license) when the metro
area had a single county definition and the audience was measured by
Pulse and Hooper, not Arbitron. Boy, you had to go back 5 decades to find
irrelevant data on that one.

First, your math sucks. Five decades ago, I was 3 years old, and could
not have possibly cared less about radio. Next, KISN was #1-3 in the
market during the early to mid 1970's, when Star Broadcasting held the
license, before they started doing what Faux News, Rush Limbaugh and Sean
Hannity do freely and openly nowadays, and lost ALL their licenses.

KISN lost its license over bribing and ex parte contact with a Senator,
along with Burden's Indianapolis and Omaha AMs along with two FMs. While the
final decision was in 1975, the stations had all been on the decline since
the proceedings began some five years earlier; the Indianapolis station had
never received a full 3-year renewal since Burden bought it in 1963 due to
other FCC transgressions. Oh, of course the famous "lack of candor" hastened
the 5-station revocations.

"Star" was Burden, 100%. He had no other shareholders. Like most stations,
KISN was held by a corporation for liability purposes and in this case
Burden was sole owner.

In the "mid 70's" year of 1975, where I have full ratings, KISN was 9th for
the full year average. It was certainly not #1 to #3 anywhere in "The mid
70's" as by 1977 more than half the shares were on FM, and in younger demos,
nearly all the shares.

In any case, Fox News and Limbaugh and Hannity have not even been accused of
bribing and engaging in illegal ex parte discussions with congresspersons...
the reason Burden lost his licenses. From every indication, he was a real
piece of work and a testimony to why consolidation is good for radio.

In any case, what killed the station more than anything else was the
expansion of the metro to areas the signal did not cover.

"David Eduardo" wrote in message
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In any case, what killed the station more than anything else was the
expansion of the metro to areas the signal did not cover.

As I said previously, it didn't cover most of the metro from the get-go.
It's nighttime pattern gave it a great signal right up along the Columbia,
but by the time you were 30-40 blocks south of the river, the signal was
poor, and, as I also stated earlier, there was a problem with IF doubling in
a lot of radios that caused a heterodyne in their signal, mostly at night
when it was poorer than daytime.

One of the primary reasons for loss of license was violations (lots of them)
of the Fairness Doctrine. They were in the tank for several politicians on
various levels, and pushed those politicians' agendas on the air and behind
closed doors.

Kind of funny, that you would never hear about any of this on the radio or
TV.. only in the newspapers. You would think that something like that would
have been all over the competitions' news programs. KGW and KISN were in a
toe-to-toe slugging match for a long while. KGW had their own signal
problems... in some parts of their pattern, they had a nice hum in the
carrier. The two stations sort of complimented each other. KISN had their
beam to the west, KGW had theirs to the south. Ironically, I think the two
plants share the original 910 antenna system now. KGW used to have theirs in
a nice open rather swampy area, which definately helped their local
coverage. KISN put in a good signal on the coast (Astoria, Seaside) due to
their pattern.

"Brenda Ann" wrote in message
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"David Eduardo" wrote in message
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In any case, what killed the station more than anything else was the
expansion of the metro to areas the signal did not cover.

As I said previously, it didn't cover most of the metro from the get-go.
It's nighttime pattern gave it a great signal right up along the Columbia,
but by the time you were 30-40 blocks south of the river, the signal was
poor,

And the market was not even the whole county in Pulse or Hooper.

One of the primary reasons for loss of license was violations (lots of
them) of the Fairness Doctrine. They were in the tank for several
politicians on various levels, and pushed those politicians' agendas on
the air and behind closed doors.

That's not true. The biggest infraction was bribing a congressman and ex
parte dealing with several others.

In addition, the news on the Burden stations was slanted to favor candidates
and politicians who Burden favored via clever writing. This was not
"Fairness" at all but slanting the news; Fairness requires equal time...
slanting the news falsely was considered then a character qualification.
Today, it's irrelevant.

But the big issue was the bribing and ex parte stuff, the same things that
did in Channel 7 in Miaami and one of the Orlando TV's at the same time.