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Default Low Power iBiquity "HD" radios - Where are they?

With iBiquitys "Big" announcement about "significant momentum in
advancing the infrastructure for HD Radio designs." I would have
expected to see low power "HD" radios hitting the market by now.

What's up Struble?

All I'm seeing are the current power hungry "HD" radios selling at
rock bottom clearance prices if you can find them at all.

Im sure retailers are on the edge of their seats waiting for the
shipment of low power "HD" radios considering they made no money at
all with the first batch of junk radios.

What's up with that Booble Struble?
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Default Low Power iBiquity "HD" radios - Where are they?

On Jun 30, 9:30�am, Rfburns wrote:
With iBiquitys "Big" announcement about "significant momentum in
advancing the infrastructure for HD Radio designs." �I would have
expected to see low power "HD" radios hitting the market by now.

What's up Struble?

All I'm seeing are the current power hungry "HD" radios selling at
rock bottom clearance prices if you can find them at all.

Im sure retailers are on the edge of their seats waiting for the
shipment of low power "HD" radios considering they made no money at
all with the first batch of junk radios.

What's up with that Booble Struble?


"HD Radio"

"Until now, portable HD Radio receivers have been unavailable because
the chipsets needed by this technology required too much power to be
practical for a battery-operated device. However, in January 2008 at
the Consumer Electronics Show (CES) in Las Vegas iBiquity unveiled a
prototype of a new iPod-sized portable receiver. It is based on a new
chipset developed by Samsung. Although portable, it is still a
relatively power-hungry device (it will run on an average set of
alkaline batteries in about two hours, according to an iBiquity
engineer). But Samsung engineers at CES say a second-generation
chipset due in 2009 will be about 40 percent more power efficient and
then a third-generation chipset due about a year later will use even
less energy."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HD_Radio


"HD Radio To Go Portable Via New, Smaller Chipset"

"For portable devices, the Samsung chipset will reduce power
consumption to less than 200 milliwatts from other chipsets'
approximate 3 watts, Struble said. With the chipset, iBiquity's
objective is to deliver 24 hours of HD Radio reception from a portable
device's embedded rechargeable battery... With the Samsung solution,
chipset size shrinks from a cellphone-size module to one that is about
25mm by 30mm (roughly 1 inch by 1.2 inches) and a few millimeters
deep."

http://www.twice.com/article/CA6526388.html

"Sirius Satellite Radio"

"Sirius Stiletto 100 - the first portable Sirius radio that allows
subscribers to listen to live Sirius programming... The unit's
batteries give the user approximately 30 hours of life."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sirius_Satellite_Radio

Struble wants a 1200% increase in power efficiency - isn't going to
happen! What a farce! Glad to see you back!
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Default IBOC : Low Power & Long Playing HD-Radios from iBiquity - We AreStill Waiting . . . .

On Jun 30, 7:19Â*am, wrote:
On Jun 30, 9:30�am, Rfburns wrote:

With iBiquitys "Big" announcement about "significant momentum in
advancing the infrastructure for HD Radio designs." �I would have
expected to see low power "HD" radios hitting the market by now.


What's up Struble?


All I'm seeing are the current power hungry "HD" radios selling at
rock bottom clearance prices if you can find them at all.


Im sure retailers are on the edge of their seats waiting for the
shipment of low power "HD" radios considering they made no money at
all with the first batch of junk radios.


What's up with that Booble Struble?


"HD Radio"

"Until now, portable HD Radio receivers have been unavailable because
the chipsets needed by this technology required too much power to be
practical for a battery-operated device. However, in January 2008 at
the Consumer Electronics Show (CES) in Las Vegas iBiquity unveiled a
prototype of a new iPod-sized portable receiver. It is based on a new
chipset developed by Samsung. Although portable, it is still a
relatively power-hungry device (it will run on an average set of
alkaline batteries in about two hours, according to an iBiquity
engineer). But Samsung engineers at CES say a second-generation
chipset due in 2009 will be about 40 percent more power efficient and
then a third-generation chipset due about a year later will use even
less energy."


HD-Radio [IBOC]
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HD_Radio

"HD Radio To Go Portable Via New, Smaller Chipset"

"For portable devices, the Samsung chipset will reduce power
consumption to less than 200 milliwatts from other chipsets'
approximate 3 watts, Struble said. With the chipset, iBiquity's
objective is to deliver 24 hours of HD Radio reception from a portable
device's embedded rechargeable battery... With the Samsung solution,
chipset size shrinks from a cellphone-size module to one that is about
25mm by 30mm (roughly 1 inch by 1.2 inches) and a few millimeters
deep."
http://www.twice.com/article/CA6526388.html


HD Radio To Go Portable Via New, Smaller Chipset
-by- Joseph Palenchar -- TWICE, 1/28/2008
http://www.twice.com/article/CA6526388.html
"iBiquity's objective is to deliver 24 hours of HD Radio reception
from a portable device's embedded rechargeable battery..."

* Sounds doable and would 'qualify' as a Pocket AM &
FM Radio for most AM & FM Radio Listeners.

* Point-of-Fact - Actually a Play Time of 16~20 Hours a Day
with an Overnight Recharge of 4~8 Hours would meet most
AM & FM Radio Listener's needs.

* Needs to have a Built-in-Speaker with a Jack for Stereo
Headphones.

* Examples :
RadioShack AM/FM Pocket Radio
http://www.radioshack.com/product/in...ductId=2101276
Sony ICF-S10MK2 Pocket AM/FM Radio
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00020S7XK
Panasonic RF-P50 Pocket AM/FM Radio
http://cgi.ebay.com/_W0QQitemZ190217840938

=BUT= Right Now I Ain't Buying until the FM HD-Radio
Broadcast "Digial" Power is inceased to at least 4% of
the Analog Radio Station's ERP.

-cause- the 1% digital solution ain't working ~ RHF

IBOC : The Internet's # 1 Place for Information about HD-Radio
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...285981e9514e88

IBOC : FM HD-Radio NAB Seeks Power Increase from FCC
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...07beb97dcb233a

IBOC : FM HD-Radio Step One :
The PBS / NPR Approach "Underwritten By . . . "
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...6139b8b1945299

Forget IBOC : AM & FM Radio Featuring the Right Content
for the Right Audience : It $ell$
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...2325ec3b3dd453
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On Jun 30, 9:30?am, Rfburns wrote:
With iBiquitys "Big" announcement about "significant momentum in
advancing the infrastructure for HD Radio designs." ?I would have
expected to see low power "HD" radios hitting the market by now.

What's up Struble?

All I'm seeing are the current power hungry "HD" radios selling at
rock bottom clearance prices if you can find them at all.

Im sure retailers are on the edge of their seats waiting for the
shipment of low power "HD" radios considering they made no money at
all with the first batch of junk radios.

What's up with that Booble Struble?


"HD Radio"

"Until now, portable HD Radio receivers have been unavailable because
the chipsets needed by this technology required too much power to be
practical for a battery-operated device. However, in January 2008 at
the Consumer Electronics Show (CES) in Las Vegas iBiquity unveiled a
prototype of a new iPod-sized portable receiver. It is based on a new
chipset developed by Samsung. Although portable, it is still a
relatively power-hungry device (it will run on an average set of
alkaline batteries in about two hours, according to an iBiquity
engineer). But Samsung engineers at CES say a second-generation
chipset due in 2009 will be about 40 percent more power efficient and
then a third-generation chipset due about a year later will use even
less energy."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HD_Radio

These devices do not exist yet. Previously they were supposed to be
available in 2007, then they were supposed to be available this summer.
Now they are delayed to some time in 2009.


"HD Radio To Go Portable Via New, Smaller Chipset"

"For portable devices, the Samsung chipset will reduce power
consumption to less than 200 milliwatts from other chipsets'
approximate 3 watts, Struble said. With the chipset, iBiquity's
objective is to deliver 24 hours of HD Radio reception from a portable
device's embedded rechargeable battery... With the Samsung solution,
chipset size shrinks from a cellphone-size module to one that is about
25mm by 30mm (roughly 1 inch by 1.2 inches) and a few millimeters
deep."

http://www.twice.com/article/CA6526388.html


SNIP

This is called a proposal. Another way to think of this announcement is
as a projection of what is possible if the money shows up. This link
dated 1/28/08 claims that Samsung is sampling the chips set, which I
believe to be an error because there is nothing about it on their web
site.

You will notice that the statement about samples being available is not
attributed to someone in the article. Maybe Robert Struble made it.

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