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Default IBiquity – Where’s the “HD” in “HD” radio?

On Jul 4, 11:23 pm, Rfburns wrote:
Been listening to a little AM Broadcast Band “HD” radio and still
trying to figure out how iBiquity can tout it as CD quality.
Considering the fact that it takes about 40 kHz bandwidth to broadcast
all kinds of strange digital noises, odd warbling audio, dropouts and
interference issues, false “HD” detection and switching problems. No
CD system that I’ve heard sounds like that - even real cheap $15 ones.

I think that if manufacturers made better radios and broadcasters
would widen their AM signals you could achieve better and more
consistent quality with less bother. There’s just no reason to buy
one if you ask me.

What I find particularly amusing is stations transmitting infomercials
in iBiquity “HD” quality. Now that’s a real swell use of
spectrum.


But the part I love the most about "HD"radio is when your listening to
a non-hd station the radio switches to "HD" mode and goes silent. Now
that's a cool strategy.

You gotta just love the silence. You ibiquity guys are so smart. I
wonder if this is one of their software tools?
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But the part I love the most about "HD"radio is when your listening to
a non-hd station the radio switches to "HD" mode and goes silent. Now
that's a cool strategy.

On at least a dozen different HD receivers, I have never had this happen.
Nor, until now in your message, have I ever heard of it happening.


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On Jul 6, 3:23 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
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But the part I love the most about "HD"radio is when your listening to
a non-hd station the radio switches to "HD" mode and goes silent. Now
that's a cool strategy.

On at least a dozen different HD receivers, I have never had this happen.
Nor, until now in your message, have I ever heard of it happening.



Well, Eduardo it happens all the time on the Sony XDR-S3HD. Which is
practically being given away now because nobody wants them and places
like Best Buy, etc lost their ass on them.

I can't imagine why any company would want to waste anymore
developmental dollars on ibiquity "HD" technology again after seeing
the dismal sales and performance it produces.

The other thing I like about "HD" is when the analog and digital
signals are out of sync by several seconds and the signal just isn't
strong enough to get an "HD" lock. It goes back and forth replaying
the delayed signal over and over while it constantly switches back and
forth from analog to "HD" and back to analog and then back to "HD".
Over and Over. Since I live more the 20 miles from the nearest "HD"
station this is pretty much the norm. It's a real treat to hear how
screwed up system is and how poorly implemented the digital component
is.

Another thing I love seeing is when an "HD" station advertises their
website on the goofy little screen so you can use your Web radio to
hear them rather than their terrestrial radio signal. That’s a nice
touch. Looks to me like most stations know what a bust ibiquity "HD"
is.

Someday, when iBiquity "HD" is just a memory of another failed
technology I'll recall with fond memories what a joke it was.

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On Jul 6, 4:28 pm, Rfburns wrote:
On Jul 6, 3:23 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:

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But the part I love the most about "HD"radio is when your listening to
a non-hd station the radio switches to "HD" mode and goes silent. Now
that's a cool strategy.


On at least a dozen different HD receivers, I have never had this happen.

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Eduardo - I'd invite you over to my palce to hear some of these things
but you scare me.

Bring it to my office and we can compare it with several of them there, and
our engineering staff can look at the one you have too.




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On Jul 6, 11:36 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
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Eduardo - I'd invite you over to my palce to hear some of these things
but you scare me.

Bring it to my office and we can compare it with several of them there, and
our engineering staff can look at the one you have too.


Eduardo - with all due respect to you (which isn't much) what I say is
happening on the Sony is happening.

With the radio tuned to a non HD AM station, adjacent AM HD stations
cause the receiver to switch to HD which results in the receive audio
to shut off for several seconds. This occurs regularly on AM.

There is so much bad stuff about iBiquity HD in it's current state
that it's hard to know where to start, aside from the fact that the
Sony is a clunky piece of technology.

You can argue all night about whose fault it is - iBiquity or the
manufacturers but the consumer doesn't care. All they know is that
they don't want it and rightly so.
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With the radio tuned to a non HD AM station, adjacent AM HD stations
cause the receiver to switch to HD which results in the receive audio
to shut off for several seconds. This occurs regularly on AM.


I have never heard of this happenning...nor had it happen to me.



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On Jul 6, 3:23 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Rfburns" wrote in message

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But the part I love the most about "HD"radio is when your listening to
a non-hd station the radio switches to "HD" mode and goes silent. Now
that's a cool strategy.

On at least a dozen different HD receivers, I have never had this happen.
Nor, until now in your message, have I ever heard of it happening.



Well, Eduardo it happens all the time on the Sony XDR-S3HD. Which is
practically being given away now because nobody wants them and places
like Best Buy, etc lost their ass on them.

Several of our LA offices have those, and they never do what you say they
do. You either have a defective unit or ar dealing in hypoerbole.



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