On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 14:51:39 -0400, dxAce wrote:

WLS 890 Chicago is reporting a preliminary 5.8 magnitude earthquake that
hit the greater Los Angeles area at 1842Z.

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/...ci14383980.php

dxAce
Michigan
USA

-------- Below is the New York Times story from 1 hour ago
today---------
----------------------------------------------------------------------
July 30, 2008
Earthquake Rattles Southern California
By JENNIFER STEINHAUER

LOS ANGELES — A moderately strong earthquake shook Southern California on
Tuesday, swaying buildings and tossing food off grocery store shelves for
about 20 seconds. There were no immediate reports of major injuries or
structural damage.

The quake, estimated at 5.4 magnitude (reduced from an initial estimate
of 5.8), was centered 35 east of downtown Los Angeles in Chino Hills,
just south of Pomona in San Bernardino county. It was felt as far east as
Las Vegas and as far south as San Diego.

Cellphone lines were jammed throughout the region as people began to
frantically make calls in the immediate moments after the powerful jolt.
Schools, office buildings, tourist attractions like Disneyland and other
facilities were evacuated temporarily as people braced for aftershocks,
which were numerous and in some cases were as strong as 3.8 magnitude,
while the Los Angeles City Council stopped to regroup.

Residents adjusted to that eerie, off-putting sensation of having rolled
from side to side on the rollers that are common in seismically
engineered buildings, which can leave buildings swaying for several
seconds after the quake.

The shake was strong enough to knock pictures off walls and rattle
windows, but there appeared to be little damage near the earthquake’s
epicenter.

In Riverside, two women suffered minor head injuries from people climbing
under tables.

Denise Cattern, a spokeswoman for the Chino Hills city government, a few
miles from the epicenter, said that there were no report of major damage
or injuries, but that residents and businesses were reporting lots of
things falling from walls and shelves.

“Our nerves have been rattled,� she said, adding that in the aftermath,
“everything seems to be fine.�

Elizabeth Cespuglio, 17, of Corona, about eight miles from where the
quake struck, said she was at home watching television and working on her
computer when the shaking began. It began as a gentle roll, she said,
that grew stronger and accompanied a loud vibration that was unlike the
small tremors she has become accustomed to through living in Southern
California. She said she ran to a doorframe, as experts advise.

“I always kind of liked quakes when they were tiny,� Ms. Cespuglio said
by telephone. “But after it lasted longer, it kind of freaked me out.�

Two pictures, an eight-by-six and another that was slightly larger, fell
from a wall in an adjacent bedroom, she said, but they did not break, and
saw no other damage to the house. She said a small aftershock was felt a
few minutes later.

The last powerful earthquake to shake the region — among the most the
seismically active in the world — was the 1994 Northridge earthquake,
which registered at 6.7 magnitude and produced the highest ground
acceleration ever recorded in an urban area in America.

Randal C. Archibold contributed reporting.



Copyright 2008 The New York Times Company

On Jul 29, 6:22*pm, malo wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 14:51:39 -0400, dxAce wrote:
WLS 890 Chicago is reporting a preliminary 5.8 magnitude earthquake that
hit the greater Los Angeles area at 1842Z.

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/...ci14383980.php

dxAce
Michigan
USA

-------- *Below is the New York Times story from 1 hour ago
today---------
----------------------------------------------------------------------
July 30, 2008
Earthquake Rattles Southern California
By JENNIFER STEINHAUER

LOS ANGELES — A moderately strong earthquake shook Southern California on
Tuesday, swaying buildings and tossing food off grocery store shelves for
about 20 seconds. There were no immediate reports of major injuries or
structural damage.

The quake, estimated at 5.4 magnitude (reduced from an initial estimate
of 5.8), was centered 35 east of downtown Los Angeles in Chino Hills,
just south of Pomona in San Bernardino county. It was felt as far east as
Las Vegas and as far south as San Diego.

Cellphone lines were jammed throughout the region as people began to
frantically make calls in the immediate moments after the powerful jolt.
Schools, office buildings, tourist attractions like Disneyland and other
facilities were evacuated temporarily as people braced for aftershocks,
which were numerous and in some cases were as strong as 3.8 magnitude,
while the Los Angeles City Council stopped to regroup.

Residents adjusted to that eerie, off-putting sensation of having rolled
from side to side on the rollers that are common in seismically
engineered buildings, which can leave buildings swaying for several
seconds after the quake.

The shake was strong enough to knock pictures off walls and rattle
windows, but there appeared to be little damage near the earthquake’s
epicenter.

In Riverside, two women suffered minor head injuries from people climbing
under tables.

Denise Cattern, a spokeswoman for the Chino Hills city government, a few
miles from the epicenter, said that there were no report of major damage
or injuries, but that residents and businesses were reporting lots of
things falling from walls and shelves.

“Our nerves have been rattled,” she said, adding that in the aftermath,
“everything seems to be fine.”

Elizabeth Cespuglio, 17, of Corona, about eight miles from where the
quake struck, said she was at home watching television and working on her
computer when the shaking began. It began as a gentle roll, she said,
that grew stronger and accompanied a loud vibration that was unlike the
small tremors she has become accustomed to through living in Southern
California. She said she ran to a doorframe, as experts advise.

“I always kind of liked quakes when they were tiny,” Ms. Cespuglio said
by telephone. “But after it lasted longer, it kind of freaked me out.”

Two pictures, an eight-by-six and another that was slightly larger, fell
from a wall in an adjacent bedroom, she said, but they did not break, and
saw no other damage to the house. She said a small aftershock was felt a
few minutes later.

The last powerful earthquake to shake the region — among the most the
seismically active in the world — was the 1994 Northridge earthquake,
which registered at 6.7 magnitude and produced the highest ground
acceleration ever recorded in an urban area in America.

Randal C. Archibold contributed reporting.

Copyright 2008 The New York Times Company

Sorry if anyone in here lives out in that area but I have to say- why
in the world would people live out there especially the ones along the
worst fault line in the history of the world? It just doesn't make
sense to me. I could give all kinds of analogies that would make it
sound even funnier. Everyone and their grandma **knows** it is just a
matter of time before the big one flattens and kills many people and
here is the kicker IMO.....they choose to live there? They warned and
I had read for the last ten years about the Louisiana area. Sure
enough everything happened just like the experts warned about. I guess
I am missing something. ;-)

BCBlazysusan wrote:

On Jul 29, 6:22 pm, malo wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 14:51:39 -0400, dxAce wrote:
WLS 890 Chicago is reporting a preliminary 5.8 magnitude earthquake that
hit the greater Los Angeles area at 1842Z.

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/...ci14383980.php

dxAce
Michigan
USA

-------- Below is the New York Times story from 1 hour ago
today---------
----------------------------------------------------------------------
July 30, 2008
Earthquake Rattles Southern California
By JENNIFER STEINHAUER

LOS ANGELES — A moderately strong earthquake shook Southern California on
Tuesday, swaying buildings and tossing food off grocery store shelves for
about 20 seconds. There were no immediate reports of major injuries or
structural damage.

The quake, estimated at 5.4 magnitude (reduced from an initial estimate
of 5.8), was centered 35 east of downtown Los Angeles in Chino Hills,
just south of Pomona in San Bernardino county. It was felt as far east as
Las Vegas and as far south as San Diego.

Cellphone lines were jammed throughout the region as people began to
frantically make calls in the immediate moments after the powerful jolt.
Schools, office buildings, tourist attractions like Disneyland and other
facilities were evacuated temporarily as people braced for aftershocks,
which were numerous and in some cases were as strong as 3.8 magnitude,
while the Los Angeles City Council stopped to regroup.

Residents adjusted to that eerie, off-putting sensation of having rolled
from side to side on the rollers that are common in seismically
engineered buildings, which can leave buildings swaying for several
seconds after the quake.

The shake was strong enough to knock pictures off walls and rattle
windows, but there appeared to be little damage near the earthquake’s
epicenter.

In Riverside, two women suffered minor head injuries from people climbing
under tables.

Denise Cattern, a spokeswoman for the Chino Hills city government, a few
miles from the epicenter, said that there were no report of major damage
or injuries, but that residents and businesses were reporting lots of
things falling from walls and shelves.

“Our nerves have been rattled,” she said, adding that in the aftermath,
“everything seems to be fine.”

Elizabeth Cespuglio, 17, of Corona, about eight miles from where the
quake struck, said she was at home watching television and working on her
computer when the shaking began. It began as a gentle roll, she said,
that grew stronger and accompanied a loud vibration that was unlike the
small tremors she has become accustomed to through living in Southern
California. She said she ran to a doorframe, as experts advise.

“I always kind of liked quakes when they were tiny,” Ms. Cespuglio said
by telephone. “But after it lasted longer, it kind of freaked me out.”

Two pictures, an eight-by-six and another that was slightly larger, fell
from a wall in an adjacent bedroom, she said, but they did not break, and
saw no other damage to the house. She said a small aftershock was felt a
few minutes later.

The last powerful earthquake to shake the region — among the most the
seismically active in the world — was the 1994 Northridge earthquake,
which registered at 6.7 magnitude and produced the highest ground
acceleration ever recorded in an urban area in America.

Randal C. Archibold contributed reporting.

Copyright 2008 The New York Times Company

Sorry if anyone in here lives out in that area but I have to say- why
in the world would people live out there especially the ones along the
worst fault line in the history of the world? It just doesn't make
sense to me. I could give all kinds of analogies that would make it
sound even funnier. Everyone and their grandma **knows** it is just a
matter of time before the big one flattens and kills many people and
here is the kicker IMO.....they choose to live there? They warned and
I had read for the last ten years about the Louisiana area. Sure
enough everything happened just like the experts warned about. I guess
I am missing something. ;-)

Yeah, I myself question the 'rebuilding' of New Orleans. It's in a bowl for all
intents and purposes and it'll just get wiped out again. Not today, not
tomorrow, but it will happen.

dxAce wrote:

Sorry if anyone in here lives out in that area but I have to say- why
in the world would people live out there especially the ones along the
worst fault line in the history of the world? It just doesn't make
sense to me. I could give all kinds of analogies that would make it
sound even funnier. Everyone and their grandma **knows** it is just a
matter of time before the big one flattens and kills many people and
here is the kicker IMO.....they choose to live there? They warned and
I had read for the last ten years about the Louisiana area. Sure
enough everything happened just like the experts warned about. I guess
I am missing something. ;-)

Yeah, I myself question the 'rebuilding' of New Orleans. It's in a bowl for all
intents and purposes and it'll just get wiped out again. Not today, not
tomorrow, but it will happen.

New Orleans did just fine until George Bush cut the funds for levee
maintenance. New Orleans did fine until the oil companies destroyed the
50 miles of marshlands between the city and the Gulf. New Orleans did
fine until Mr. Go.

But don't worry. Nobody's rebuilding New Orleans.

On Aug 1, 5:49*am, Dave wrote:
dxAce wrote:
Sorry if anyone in here lives out in that area but I have to say- why
in the world would people live out there especially the ones along the
worst fault line in the history of the world? It just doesn't make
sense to me. I could give all kinds of analogies that would make it
sound even funnier. Everyone and their grandma **knows** it is just a
matter of time before the big one flattens and kills many people and
here is the kicker IMO.....they choose to live there? They warned and
I had read for the last ten years about the Louisiana area. Sure
enough everything happened just like the experts warned about. I guess
I am missing something. ;-)

Yeah, I myself question the 'rebuilding' of New Orleans. It's in a bowl for all
intents and purposes and it'll just get wiped out again. Not today, not
tomorrow, but it will happen.

- New Orleans did just fine until George Bush
- cut the funds for levee maintenance.

Dave you are repeating another Liberal Lie : Point of Fact
the State of Louisiana and the City of New Orleans
'diverted the Level Money from Levees and Maintenance
to Yacht Harbours and Gambling Casinos.
-so-called- Civic Improvements

-*New Orleans did fine until the oil companies destroyed
- the 50 miles of marshlands between the city and the Gulf.

Dave a clear distrotion of the Facts : That is to the South
the Storm Surge came from the North from Lake Pontchartrain.

- New Orleans did fine until Mr. Go.

Who The 'F' is "Mr. Go."

- But don't worry. *Nobody's rebuilding New Orleans.

The City of New Orleans is getting rebuild slowly because
the State of Louisiana and the City Government are doing
what they do best : Siphoning-Off the Money for other uses.

dang that was easy ~ RHF

RHF wrote:
On Aug 1, 5:49 am, Dave wrote:
dxAce wrote:
Sorry if anyone in here lives out in that area but I have to say- why
in the world would people live out there especially the ones along the
worst fault line in the history of the world? It just doesn't make
sense to me. I could give all kinds of analogies that would make it
sound even funnier. Everyone and their grandma **knows** it is just a
matter of time before the big one flattens and kills many people and
here is the kicker IMO.....they choose to live there? They warned and
I had read for the last ten years about the Louisiana area. Sure
enough everything happened just like the experts warned about. I guess
I am missing something. ;-)
Yeah, I myself question the 'rebuilding' of New Orleans. It's in a bowl for all
intents and purposes and it'll just get wiped out again. Not today, not
tomorrow, but it will happen.

- New Orleans did just fine until George Bush
- cut the funds for levee maintenance.

Dave you are repeating another Liberal Lie : Point of Fact
the State of Louisiana and the City of New Orleans
'diverted the Level Money from Levees and Maintenance
to Yacht Harbours and Gambling Casinos.
-so-called- Civic Improvements

- New Orleans did fine until the oil companies destroyed
- the 50 miles of marshlands between the city and the Gulf.

Dave a clear distrotion of the Facts : That is to the South
the Storm Surge came from the North from Lake Pontchartrain.

- New Orleans did fine until Mr. Go.

Who The 'F' is "Mr. Go."

- But don't worry. Nobody's rebuilding New Orleans.

The City of New Orleans is getting rebuild slowly because
the State of Louisiana and the City Government are doing
what they do best : Siphoning-Off the Money for other uses.

dang that was easy ~ RHF
.

They don't call it 'The Big Easy' for nothing.

On Aug 1, 11:19*am, RHF wrote:
On Aug 1, 5:49*am, Dave wrote:

dxAce wrote:
Sorry if anyone in here lives out in that area but I have to say- why
in the world would people live out there especially the ones along the
worst fault line in the history of the world? It just doesn't make
sense to me. I could give all kinds of analogies that would make it
sound even funnier. Everyone and their grandma **knows** it is just a
matter of time before the big one flattens and kills many people and
here is the kicker IMO.....they choose to live there? They warned and
I had read for the last ten years about the Louisiana area. Sure
enough everything happened just like the experts warned about. I guess
I am missing something. ;-)

Yeah, I myself question the 'rebuilding' of New Orleans. It's in a bowl for all
intents and purposes and it'll just get wiped out again. Not today, not
tomorrow, but it will happen.

- New Orleans did just fine until George Bush
- cut the funds for levee maintenance.

Dave you are repeating another Liberal Lie : Point of Fact
the State of Louisiana and the City of New Orleans
'diverted the Level Money from Levees and Maintenance
to Yacht Harbours and Gambling Casinos.
-so-called- Civic Improvements

-*New Orleans did fine until the oil companies destroyed
- the 50 miles of marshlands between the city and the Gulf.

Dave a clear distrotion of the Facts : That is to the South
the Storm Surge came from the North from Lake Pontchartrain.

- New Orleans did fine until Mr. Go.

Who The 'F' is "Mr. Go."

- But don't worry. *Nobody's rebuilding New Orleans.

The City of New Orleans is getting rebuild slowly because
the State of Louisiana and the City Government are doing
what they do best : Siphoning-Off the Money for other uses.

dang that was easy ~ RHF
*.

Nice and polite and to the point response RHF. :-) I've read the cloak
and dagger stories about the local government and how they have their
hands in everything but grandma's cookie jar over there.

On Aug 1, 8:49*am, Dave wrote:
dxAce wrote:
Sorry if anyone in here lives out in that area but I have to say- why
in the world would people live out there especially the ones along the
worst fault line in the history of the world? It just doesn't make
sense to me. I could give all kinds of analogies that would make it
sound even funnier. Everyone and their grandma **knows** it is just a
matter of time before the big one flattens and kills many people and
here is the kicker IMO.....they choose to live there? They warned and
I had read for the last ten years about the Louisiana area. Sure
enough everything happened just like the experts warned about. I guess
I am missing something. ;-)

Yeah, I myself question the 'rebuilding' of New Orleans. It's in a bowl for all
intents and purposes and it'll just get wiped out again. Not today, not
tomorrow, but it will happen.

New Orleans did just fine until George Bush cut the funds for levee
maintenance. *New Orleans did fine until the oil companies destroyed the
50 miles of marshlands between the city and the Gulf. *New Orleans did
fine until Mr. Go.

But don't worry. *Nobody's rebuilding New Orleans.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Lets say everything you just said was the truth and no embellishments.
Why then did little ole' me know without a doubt that this was going
to happen and more than likely in my lifetime? Crystal ball maybe? Or
just common sense? You can pick.

BCBlazysusan wrote:
On Aug 1, 8:49 am, Dave wrote:
dxAce wrote:
Sorry if anyone in here lives out in that area but I have to say- why
in the world would people live out there especially the ones along the
worst fault line in the history of the world? It just doesn't make
sense to me. I could give all kinds of analogies that would make it
sound even funnier. Everyone and their grandma **knows** it is just a
matter of time before the big one flattens and kills many people and
here is the kicker IMO.....they choose to live there? They warned and
I had read for the last ten years about the Louisiana area. Sure
enough everything happened just like the experts warned about. I guess
I am missing something. ;-)
Yeah, I myself question the 'rebuilding' of New Orleans. It's in a bowl for all
intents and purposes and it'll just get wiped out again. Not today, not
tomorrow, but it will happen.
New Orleans did just fine until George Bush cut the funds for levee
maintenance. New Orleans did fine until the oil companies destroyed the
50 miles of marshlands between the city and the Gulf. New Orleans did
fine until Mr. Go.

But don't worry. Nobody's rebuilding New Orleans.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Lets say everything you just said was the truth and no embellishments.
Why then did little ole' me know without a doubt that this was going
to happen and more than likely in my lifetime? Crystal ball maybe? Or
just common sense? You can pick.

Name a place that isn't vulnerable. New Orleans has low spots that were
supposed to be protected by levees and pumps. The levees were the
responsibility of George W. Bush and the levees failed when they were
supposed to protect.

On Aug 2, 5:40*am, Dave wrote:
BCBlazysusan wrote:
On Aug 1, 8:49 am, Dave wrote:
dxAce wrote:
Sorry if anyone in here lives out in that area but I have to say- why
in the world would people live out there especially the ones along the
worst fault line in the history of the world? It just doesn't make
sense to me. I could give all kinds of analogies that would make it
sound even funnier. Everyone and their grandma **knows** it is just a
matter of time before the big one flattens and kills many people and
here is the kicker IMO.....they choose to live there? They warned and
I had read for the last ten years about the Louisiana area. Sure
enough everything happened just like the experts warned about. I guess
I am missing something. ;-)
Yeah, I myself question the 'rebuilding' of New Orleans. It's in a bowl for all
intents and purposes and it'll just get wiped out again. Not today, not
tomorrow, but it will happen.
New Orleans did just fine until George Bush cut the funds for levee
maintenance. *New Orleans did fine until the oil companies destroyed the
50 miles of marshlands between the city and the Gulf. *New Orleans did
fine until Mr. Go.

But don't worry. *Nobody's rebuilding New Orleans.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Lets say everything you just said was the truth and no embellishments.
Why then did little ole' me know without a doubt that this was going
to happen and more than likely in my lifetime? Crystal ball maybe? Or
just common sense? You can pick.

- Name a place that isn't vulnerable.

True - To Something at Sometime.

-*New Orleans has low spots that were supposed to be
- protected by levees and pumps.

True and New Orleans had the 'responsibility' to see
that they did. No One Else [.]

So the City of New Orleans is NOT Responsible for It's
Own Levees ? - - - When specific Ear-Marked Federal
Funds are Provided to the City of New Orleans {District}
to Build and Maintain It's Own Levees !
http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/12/...ing/index.html

-*The levees were the responsibility of George W. Bush

That's a Big Liberal Lie ! - Blaming The 'other' Guy.

- and the levees failed when they were supposed to protect.

True and State of Louisiana had the 'responsibility'
to see that they did. No One Else [.]

So the State of Louisiana is NOT Responsible for the
Levees out-side NewOrleans ? - - - When specific
Ear-Marked Federal Funds are Provided to the State
of Louisiana for Levee Districts to Build and Maintain
State Own Levees !

NOTE - The Louisiana State Legislature CUT the
Levee District's Tax Revenues in Half (1/2 ~ 50%).
http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/12/...ing/index.html

Political Coruption Siphoning-Off of Money at both
the State and City Levels was the Root Cause of the
Destruction of New Orleans by Hurricane Katrina
because the Levees protecting the City were not
improved and maintained with the $1.9B Federal
Funds provided; while California got $1.4B.
http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/arc...na_louisiana_l...

Hurricane Katrina : Louisiana Federal Money Not Spent on Levees
http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/arc...na_federal_mon...

Hurricane Katrina : Congress Deserves some of the Blame
in Terms of our Funding of the Army Corps of Engineers to
Fix Known Problems. -ps- The US Congress Writes the
Checks {Funding} and Has Over-Sight of How Money is
Being Spent or Miss-Used.

dave - keep-on promoting the liberal lies ~ RHF