David Eduardo wrote:
"dxAce" wrote in message
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David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
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I got an email off to St. Helena this morning about the reception
report
and whether or not it
was received and if a QSL (verie, for those in Glendale) had been sent.

You are such a moron.
You are such a fraud, 'Eduardo'. Now go pretend to own something, boy.

So, you are saying that MW DXers do not call their verifications of
reception "veries" despite overwhelming evidence from all quarters that we
do?




What he's saying is, though there is standardized terminology
used at any given point for very given circumstance, there are those
who morph one term into another application at will in casual
conversation among peers.

This is not medicine. A high level of specificity is not required
for communication of the point.

BCDXers use the term verie. Hams use the term QSL. My grandfather
did the same thing.

It's like my use of the term ADI. You don't like it. It's no
longer used in the business. Fine. It's no longer used officially.

But in casual conversations with my broadcast colleagues, (as
during lunch with Kipper, Thursday, it expressed an area of specific
dimensions, and commercial implications that current terminology
expresses with other parameters and in a more verbally cumbersome
way. He understood what I was saying. I understood what I was
saying. Two Ringwraiths speaking Orc.

Who cares.

Some here have bristled, here, at the use of the term
'kilocycles' or 'megacycles.' The correct contemprorary useage is
'kilohertz' or 'megahertz.' But experienced types, with a few 9
tower arrays under their belts may easily slip into a useage that's
archaic.

So what?

It's no different than you slipping into Spanish during an
English conversation with your Hispanic colleagues.

Or my college professor friend (since high school) slipping into
Middle English to make a point in a casual conversation among his
contemporaries. We all understand him. But no one is damned pedantic
that we need to correct him. And this is a group of college professors.

Yes, 'verie' refers to MW broadcasts among BCDXers. Got it. Ham
Q-code is a different language.

Lighten up.

D Peter Maus wrote:

Yes, 'verie' refers to MW broadcasts among BCDXers. Got it. Ham Q-code
is a different language.

Lighten up.


You are inspiring the wrong person. Eduardo knows what the word means.
He isn't the one mocking it's use.


mike


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m II wrote:

D Peter Maus wrote:

Yes, 'verie' refers to MW broadcasts among BCDXers. Got it. Ham Q-code
is a different language.

Lighten up.

You are inspiring the wrong person. Eduardo knows what the word means.
He isn't the one mocking it's use.

Pay attention, twit. I'm not mocking the use of the word at all. I am, however,
mocking the pedantic 'Eduardo'.

dxAce wrote:

Pay attention, twit. I'm not mocking the use of the word at all. I am, however,
mocking the pedantic 'Eduardo'.



Why are you so immature?



mike


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"D Peter Maus" wrote in message
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officially.

But in casual conversations with my broadcast colleagues, (as during
lunch with Kipper, Thursday, it expressed an area of specific dimensions,
and commercial implications that current terminology expresses with other
parameters and in a more verbally cumbersome way. He understood what I was
saying. I understood what I was saying. Two Ringwraiths speaking Orc.

Kipper, whoever he is, as well as you, should know that there is a current,
well understood substitute for ADI called the DMA and is the only non-Metro
definition that will be enduring. Arbitron shed the ADI definition when they
quit TV, decades ago. And even the TSA disappears with the PPM.

DMA speaks to current TV markets. ADI speaks to the ones of the 70's...
pre-cable (although not pre-CATV) and pre-satellite and such.

David Eduardo wrote:
"D Peter Maus" wrote in message
...
officially.
But in casual conversations with my broadcast colleagues, (as during
lunch with Kipper, Thursday, it expressed an area of specific dimensions,
and commercial implications that current terminology expresses with other
parameters and in a more verbally cumbersome way. He understood what I was
saying. I understood what I was saying. Two Ringwraiths speaking Orc.

Kipper, whoever he is,


Kipper McGee. Program Director of WLS.


as well as you, should know that there is a current,
well understood substitute for ADI called the DMA and is the only non-Metro
definition that will be enduring. Arbitron shed the ADI definition when they
quit TV, decades ago. And even the TSA disappears with the PPM.

DMA speaks to current TV markets. ADI speaks to the ones of the 70's...
pre-cable (although not pre-CATV) and pre-satellite and such.

So what?

Again, all of this is known and understood. But none of which is
important here. Nor is it the point. In casual conversation among
peers, archaic terms are not out of place, out of line, or
inappropriate. Some even create their own language.

Worldwide, metric is the standard. Even in the US, metric
measurements are commonplace, and becoming a defacto standard.

But two meters isn't the same, perceptually, to everyone. Some
prefer yards, and feet. They understand in yards and feet.

Again, so what.

It was even a point of resolution in the original 'Flight of the
Phoenix' between Towns and Dorfmann. Dorfmann, a pedantic little
German, went around correcting everyone in sight. Routinely
dismissing the experiential understandings of other survivors. Even
Captain Towns, whose experience and time in type was beyond
reproach. They argued about everything. Including correct
terminology. And specifically, yards vs meters.

Nonetheless, Dorfmann treated Towns like he was a moron. An
aberration on his own divine scheme. Correcting him at every turn.

In the end, Dorfmann and Towns came to an understanding. The last
line of the movie specifically represented this through the mutual
acceptance of the yard AND the meter.

Yes, you are correct. There are specific terms, more current
terms, and they are, technically speaking, correct. But in the world
of conversation among peers, in the interest of mutual respect,
agreements are made to accept each other's language.

Those that can't.....


well....nobody really wanted to bring along Dorfmann.


Lighten up, David. You two speak different languages. In his
language, he's correct. In yours you are. Trouble is, you think the
rest of the universe needs to adhere to your specifications. Don't
be such a pedantic little tin plated tyrant with delusions of adequacy.

You gotta be a JOY to work for.


(Geez...and they call ME and asshole.....)