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(OT) : After America Withdraws : The Up-Coming Civil War in Iraq :What Will Obama Do ?
On Nov 23, 7:51*am, wrote:
§tarkiller© *writes: * *§tarkiller© On 21 Nov 2008 17:51:06 -0500, wrote: * * David Hartung writes: * * * *David SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim wrote: * * now this is funny, bush has completely destroyed the constitution, * * greed is rampant, bush singlehandedly destroyed the u.s. economy, * * and you're scared of the demcorats? * * you should be scared of the dumbass nazi neocon republican scum * * save america, kill a neocon today * * * *David If you will look around you, you will realize that your claim is * *David completely without merit. * * * *David Bush has destroyed nothing. * * * * He has come very close to destroying Iraq. * * By complete incompetence. * *§tarkiller© Yeah yeah sure sure, guess that's why so many less people are dying in * *§tarkiller© Iraq today than did under your hero Saddam yes? Far more people die today than under Saddam. *What could have possibly made you think otherwise? Iraq is in the control of political parties created in Iran, and allied with Iran. Recently we made allies with unreformed Baathists in the Sunni *areas, and have armed them. *Now there are three Iraqi armies in Iraq --- the Peshmurga (Kurds), the offical Iraqi Army (Shiite and allied with Iran), - and the new Sunni awakening army. "Sunni Awakening Army" sort of sounds like : Born Again Christians and Onward Christian Soldiers all rolled into one. http://news.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/spl...nic_map416.gif - When we leave, these three armies - will have a full scale war. Note - Iraq was a Post Colonial* 'manufactured Nation designed to fail. * First the Ottomans and then the British Then Turkey will move in from the North and Iran will move in from the East. http://gulf2000.columbia.edu/images/...ligions_sm.jpg * *§tarkiller© Guess that's also why the Iraq oil business is booming raking in * *§tarkiller© billions to Iraq. Billions to the pro-Iranian Shiite parties. * *§tarkiller© Guess that's also why we see so few reports of fighting and deaths * *§tarkiller© these days compares to just a couple of years ago as well yes? There is a short term reduction in violence, and the Baathists have pretty much expelled al Queda. *But the nation is ruined. * * He has destroyed our prestige in the world. * *§tarkiller© No, people like Soros, Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton and few choice * *§tarkiller© others traveling all over the world badmouthing the US to foreign * *§tarkiller© nations did a lot of that, along with liberals like yoursel that No, it was Bush arrogance and incompetence that did it. Very sad. * *§tarkiller© started screaming how horrible the US was even before Bush took office * * * * He is really one of the worst presidents of * * all time. * *§tarkiller© Another youngster not old enough to have experienced the Carter * *§tarkiller© administration no doubt. You are not a good mind reader. *Carter's ineptness pales next to Bush's. * *§tarkiller© Not to worry though. *It is likely you may see another Carteresque * *§tarkiller© presidency shortly. Perhaps, but it is hard to imagine it could be worse that Bush. Read some history. *I can give you a good reading list to see the truth about the criminal incompetence of Bush. * * *§tarkiller© Regards * *§tarkiller© §tarkiller© * *§tarkiller© 'A government big enough to give you everything you want, is * *§tarkiller© big enough to take away everything you have.' * *§tarkiller© "You cannot enrich the poor by impoverishing the rich." -- Andrew Hall (Now reading Usenet in alt.fan.rush-limbaugh...) |
(OT) : Telephone "Product Support" People - Residing in a Jail NearYou
On Nov 23, 8:06*am, "Bob Campbell" wrote:
wrote in message ... Read some history. *I can give you a good reading list to see the truth about the criminal incompetence of Bush. Being incompetent is not a crime. *If it was, then 75% of politicians, school teachers and - telephone "product support" people would be in jail. Note some Telephone "Product Support" People are in-fact 'residences' of Prisons. |
more off topic garbage by rhf aka Retired Halfassed Fool
Shortwave radio enthusiasts have a right to enjoy a newsgroup
which was established for them and is supposed to be dedicated to shortwave radio information. And they have a right to do so without wading through all the off topic garbage you post and it isn't incumbent upon them to filter obnoxious morons like you out, also many don't have the capability to do so. Start behaving like a responsible adult and filter yourself by posting your nonsense in the appropriate newsgroups. |
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more off topic garbage by rhf aka Retired Halfassed Fool
wrote in message ... Shortwave radio enthusiasts have a right to enjoy a newsgroup which was established for them and is supposed to be dedicated to shortwave radio information. And they have a right to do so without wading through all the off topic garbage you post and it isn't incumbent upon them to filter obnoxious morons like you out, also many don't have the capability to do so. Start behaving like a responsible adult and filter yourself by posting your nonsense in the appropriate newsgroups. Dear dxacer As far as I can see, he IS posting it in the appropriate groups. rec.radio.shortwave I belonged to many years ago and it was about as useful as tits on a boarhog. He is posting to alt.politics.republcans. And so are you. Physician heal thyself. Sir Charles the Curmudgeon |
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Bob Campbell wrote:
wrote in message ... Read some history. I can give you a good reading list to see the truth about the criminal incompetence of Bush. Being incompetent is not a crime. If it was, then 75% of politicians, school teachers and telephone "product support" people would be in jail. Caustic indifference and mean-spiritedness do not equal incompetence. |
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David Hartung wrote:
Dave wrote: wrote: §tarkiller© Another youngster not old enough to have experienced the Carter §tarkiller© administration no doubt. You are not a good mind reader. Carter's ineptness pales next to Bush's. §tarkiller© Not to worry though. It is likely you may see another Carteresque §tarkiller© presidency shortly. Perhaps, but it is hard to imagine it could be worse that Bush. Read some history. I can give you a good reading list to see the truth about the criminal incompetence of Bush. Contrary to the Reaganite Revisionist version of history, it was Jimmy Carter who maneuvered the Soviets into a prolonged war in Afghanistan. (Reagan was the one who let Osama go the Dark Side.) Your source for this theory? Robert Gates, current SecDef. The CIA begins covert action against the Communist government in Afghanistan, which is closely tied to the Soviet Union. Some time this year, the CIA begins training militants in Pakistan and beaming radio propaganda into Afghanistan. By April 1979, US officials are meeting with opponents of the Afghan government to determine their needs. [Blum, 1995, pp. 344] Robert Gates, who will become CIA Director in the early 1990s, will later recall that in a meeting on March 30, 1979, Under Secretary of Defense Walter Slocumbe wonders aloud whether there is “value in keeping the Afghan insurgency going, ‘sucking the Soviets into a Vietnamese quagmire.’” [Gates, 1996, pp. 145] In March 1979, there is a major revolt in Herat province, and in June and August there are large scale army mutinies. [Cooley, 2002, pp. 5] President Carter will formally approve covert aid to opponents of the government in July (see July 3, 1979), which will result in a Russian invasion in December (see December 8, 1979)." http://www.historycommons.org/contex...aafghanist an |
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On 21 Nov 2008 17:51:06 -0500, wrote: David Hartung writes: David SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim wrote: now this is funny, bush has completely destroyed the constitution, greed is rampant, bush singlehandedly destroyed the u.s. economy, and you're scared of the demcorats? you should be scared of the dumbass nazi neocon republican scum save america, kill a neocon today He has come very close to destroying Iraq. By complete incompetence. §tarkiller© wrote: Yeah yeah sure sure, guess that's why so many less people are dying in Iraq today than did under your hero Saddam yes? Um, if you read carefully, he said "destroying Iraq" (the COUNTRY), not specifically that less people are dying. "Destroying Iraq" in that there is limited electricity, limited fresh water, limited sewage treatment, lack of medical care/equipment/pharmaceuticals, lack of fuel, lack of jobs and just generally having TRASHED the entire country. Guess that's also why the Iraq oil business is booming raking in billions to Iraq. So if they are "raking in billions", how would you explain why WE have to keep sinking billions in Iraq. Guess that's also why we see so few reports of fighting and deaths these days compares to just a couple of years ago as well yes? There are STILL all kinds of bombings...yes, less than "before", but still a SIGNIFICANT amount, still no picnic. He has destroyed our prestige in the world. No, people like Soros, Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton and few choice others traveling all over the world badmouthing the US to foreign nations did a lot of that, along with liberals like yoursel that started screaming how horrible the US was even before Bush took office What planet have YOU been on? Yes he HAS destroyed our prestige in the world, both in the Islamic world and in Europe. Most of the world realizes the "war" was fraudulent and bogus and therefore have a poor opinion of us. He is really one of the worst presidents of all time. Another youngster not old enough to have experienced the Carter administration no doubt. If W is so much better than Jimmah, does that mean we will be seeing W get his Nobel prize anytime soon? |
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Dave wrote:
David Hartung wrote: Dave wrote: wrote: §tarkiller© Another youngster not old enough to have experienced the Carter §tarkiller© administration no doubt. You are not a good mind reader. Carter's ineptness pales next to Bush's. §tarkiller© Not to worry though. It is likely you may see another Carteresque §tarkiller© presidency shortly. Perhaps, but it is hard to imagine it could be worse that Bush. Read some history. I can give you a good reading list to see the truth about the criminal incompetence of Bush. Contrary to the Reaganite Revisionist version of history, it was Jimmy Carter who maneuvered the Soviets into a prolonged war in Afghanistan. (Reagan was the one who let Osama go the Dark Side.) Your source for this theory? Robert Gates, current SecDef. The CIA begins covert action against the Communist government in Afghanistan, which is closely tied to the Soviet Union. Some time this year, the CIA begins training militants in Pakistan and beaming radio propaganda into Afghanistan. By April 1979, US officials are meeting with opponents of the Afghan government to determine their needs. [Blum, 1995, pp. 344] Robert Gates, who will become CIA Director in the early 1990s, will later recall that in a meeting on March 30, 1979, Under Secretary of Defense Walter Slocumbe wonders aloud whether there is “value in keeping the Afghan insurgency going, ‘sucking the Soviets into a Vietnamese quagmire.’” [Gates, 1996, pp. 145] In March 1979, there is a major revolt in Herat province, and in June and August there are large scale army mutinies. [Cooley, 2002, pp. 5] President Carter will formally approve covert aid to opponents of the government in July (see July 3, 1979), which will result in a Russian invasion in December (see December 8, 1979)." http://www.historycommons.org/contex...aafghanist an Very interesting, Thank you. |
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Billy Burpelson wrote:
Um, if you read carefully, he said "destroying Iraq" (the COUNTRY), not specifically that less people are dying. "Destroying Iraq" in that there is limited electricity, limited fresh water, limited sewage treatment, lack of medical care/equipment/pharmaceuticals, lack of fuel, lack of jobs and just generally having TRASHED the entire country. How recent is your information? Guess that's also why the Iraq oil business is booming raking in billions to Iraq. So if they are "raking in billions", how would you explain why WE have to keep sinking billions in Iraq. How are the two statements related? What planet have YOU been on? Yes he HAS destroyed our prestige in the world, both in the Islamic world and in Europe. Most of the world realizes the "war" was fraudulent and bogus and therefore have a poor opinion of us. You are aware that there is more to the "?world" than western Europe and Islam? Exactly what parts of the world constitute "most" and why should we care what they think? |
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