Mike wrote:
On Nov 18, 9:03 am, "Doorman" wrote:

You're a lemming.

And you are a neocon.

Name 1 "right" you lost........cite one example of somebody that has
suffered by the "destruction of the Constitution".

1. Protection against warrantless wiretaps
2. Habeas corpus
3. Trial by jury
4. Right to know what actions my gov't deems "necessary" to protect my
freedom

All hogwash.

Greed....you have total control of that using the marketplace. Example 1:
Congress tries to regulate pornography but it's still the most lucrative
business on the internet. If the people didn't want it, they wouldn't buy
it...and it would dry up and go away. If you don't like the companies that
pay CEO's big salaries, don't buy their products.

Yes, we have total control to not buy anything or use any financial
service that the gov't bails out. Right. You truly are a moron. How do
we even have access to CEO slalries?

When did the salary of private citizens become yoru business?

We only see the tip of the
iceberg. We don't get the travel receipts of their outings or the
lists of perks they receive. We just have to leave it up to someone as
idiotic as George Bush to tell us that the economy is fine and that
there's nothing to worrry about. You do remember him, and Cheney,
saying that about 3 months ago, don't you?

Look around you, until our elected federal leadership collectively stuck
their heads up their rears, the basics of our economy were at least as
sound as they were ten years ago. Markets do fluctuate, but the
fundamentals were much the same.

The president can't spend a dime, can't create laws, or instruct markets
what to do. Paulson is following laws written by congress. Congress knew
of the Fanny Mae mess more than 2 years ago and could've prevented it. They
decided to destroy you to get a democrat in office.

And George Bush and his Treasury Secretary were so blindsided by this
nefarious plot that they had no idea it was taking place as little as
three months ago? Wasn't Bush and his people monitoring what was
taking place? Obviously not. They obviously were not doing their jobs.

Nefarious plot?

What on earth are you talking about?

NAZI??? Obama wants a "Civilian National Security Force"....last known
example of that was under Hitler.


I sure didn't hear him advocating that they be given police or
military powers. Or even guns. Sounded more like FDR's call for a
Civilian Conservation Corps. Don't get carried away with YouTube
videos showing blacks in marching ranks, that's just a common practice
for black fraternities.

Obam is a Marxist, and Marxism is a threat to our freedom.

The suggestion to murder for political reasons is the exact reason liberals
should never be in control.


Too late. We are. You better hide Neocon. But, don't worry, we don't
want to kill you, just your stupid failed neocon policies.

You're a fine example of the hatred and disgust of the left.

Yep. Ditto for you and the right. You lost. Get used to that fact. Go
back, try harder and get better candidates. If you don't get used to
complaining. You seem to be pretty good at it.

There is very little difference between the complaining going on now,
than there was when Bush won the White house, twice. The only difference
is the identity of those complaining.

America chose to repudiate your philosophy. A significant majority of
Americans disagree with you.

What philosophy is that?

In truth, the only difference between McCain presidency and the upcoming
Obama presidency, is the how quickly we become a second, or third rate
socialist state. The destination is the same with either man, the only
question is how long the journey takes.

In the for what it is worth category, the Bushes and Clinton's have
already taken us a good long way down the road to socialism.

On Nov 18, 12:37*pm, David Hartung wrote:


In the for what it is worth category, the Bushes and Clinton's have
already taken us a good long way down the road to socialism.


The fact that you list Clinton, Obama, Bush and McCain as all either
Marxists or Socialists gives everyone enough info about you. You are
an extremist. Even drivers licenses are probably part of the
"nefarious plot." Personally, I don't think there are any American
politicians that you could ever be happy with. I hope you realize that
you are in the extreme minority in terms of your political beliefs.
Can you name one country in the entire world that's not socialist? Can
you name one active politician who's not leading the US down the path
of socialism?

No, of course, you can't. You're a crackpot.

On Nov 18, 7:01*am, Dave wrote:
CharlesTheCurmudgeon wrote:
Don't bother arguing with Killgod *She's a ranter. *She hates God and thinks
she's more powerful than He is. *You're right, she is a fine example of the
Left.

Charles the Curmudeon

- God? *God who?

Dave - Obama? Obama Who?

(OT) : A Brave New ObamaMerica©

1 - The Great and Wonderful Leader Barack of Obama

2 - The Glorious Caring Democrat Party of the USA
United Behind the Great and Wonderful Leader.

3 - The Adoring and Enlightened Peoples of American
Collectively Behind the Glorious Caring Democrat
Party Working as the Vanguards of Social 'Change'
in America by Reeducating the Regressive Anti-
Social Masses to Think-and-Feel-Obama© as One.

ObamaMerica© : One Leader + One Party + One People

A Brave New ObamaMerica© Bring PaxObama© to the World !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxRfsBwou5g
Stand-Up Behind Our Great and Wonder Leader Barack Obama !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDY0BAe_qGQ

Dosvedanya Tovarishch ~ RHF
Commissariat of ObamaMerica©
Civilian Defense Force
Directorate of Internal Security

On Nov 18, 5:49*am, "SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim"
wrote:
now this is funny, bush has completely destroyed the constitution, greed is
rampant, bush singlehandedly destroyed the u.s. economy, and you're scared
of the demcorats?

- you should be scared of the
- dumbass nazi neocon republican scum
-
- save america, kill a neocon today

yeah, Yeah. YEAH ! - It's ObamaMerica© Time :
kill the neocons, Kill The Neocons. KILL THE NEOCONS !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sx7XNb3Q9Ek

There is something about the smell of . . .
Burning Neocon Bodies : They Smell Like Victory
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPXVGQnJm0w

respect the right to life of each and every
living human being - irrespective of their
political affiliation or labels ~ RHF

"David Hartung" wrote in message
...
Mike wrote:
On Nov 18, 9:03 am, "Doorman" wrote:

You're a lemming.

And you are a neocon.

Name 1 "right" you lost........cite one example of somebody that has
suffered by the "destruction of the Constitution".

1. Protection against warrantless wiretaps
2. Habeas corpus
3. Trial by jury
4. Right to know what actions my gov't deems "necessary" to protect my
freedom

All hogwash.

Excuse me? This stuff has only been in the news for months/years. CONgress
has even voted to ALLOW warrantless wiretaps. And it's not just 'terror
suspects', it's anyone/everyone (supposedly that gets/receives calls from
overseas, and this includes ALL members of the US military overseas). Maybe
you missed the whistleblowers that came out and said they were (working for
the NSA) listening in on calls from US military officers, et.al. and their
personal phone calls to loved ones back home?

As for #4, this was most definately done by the Patriot Act, in that you are
not allowed to know when you are being investigated simply because you read
a book at your local library that someone feels is possibly subversive.

On Nov 18, 3:35*pm, RHF wrote:

yeah, Yeah. YEAH ! - It's ObamaMerica© Time :
kill the neocons, Kill The Neocons. KILL THE NEOCONS !http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sx7XNb3Q9Ek

There is something about the smell of . . .
Burning Neocon Bodies : They Smell Like Victoryhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPXVGQnJm0w

respect the right to life of each and every
living human being - irrespective of their
political affiliation or labels ~ RHF
*.

Take a deep breath and slowly exhale, Roy. Obama is not advocating
killing neocons. Just because an anti-neocon accelerates into
hyperbole is hardly reason to start the airraid sirens. Where were you
when the neocons were calling Obama supporters traitorous Marxists?
That accusation hardly seems less fanatical than the call for dead
neocons. You hang traitors, don't you, Roy?

Follow your own advice about the Obama Presidency, Roy.

Mike

On Nov 18, 7:50 am, Mike wrote:
On Nov 18, 9:03 am, "Doorman" wrote:

You're a lemming.

And you are a neocon.



Name 1 "right" you lost........cite one example of somebody that has
suffered by the "destruction of the Constitution".

1. Protection against warrantless wiretaps
2. Habeas corpus
3. Trial by jury
4. Right to know what actions my gov't deems "necessary" to protect my
freedom

Where do you live? New Jersey?



Greed....you have total control of that using the marketplace. Example 1:
Congress tries to regulate pornography but it's still the most lucrative
business on the internet. If the people didn't want it, they wouldn't buy
it...and it would dry up and go away. If you don't like the companies that
pay CEO's big salaries, don't buy their products.

Yes, we have total control to not buy anything or use any financial
service that the gov't bails out. Right. You truly are a moron. How do
we even have access to CEO slalries? We only see the tip of the
iceberg. We don't get the travel receipts of their outings or the
lists of perks they receive. We just have to leave it up to someone as
idiotic as George Bush to tell us that the economy is fine and that
there's nothing to worrry about. You do remember him, and Cheney,
saying that about 3 months ago, don't you?

The economy was fine until 2007 when the Democrats took over.



The president can't spend a dime, can't create laws, or instruct markets
what to do. Paulson is following laws written by congress. Congress knew
of the Fanny Mae mess more than 2 years ago and could've prevented it. They
decided to destroy you to get a democrat in office.

And George Bush and his Treasury Secretary were so blindsided by this
nefarious plot that they had no idea it was taking place as little as
three months ago? Wasn't Bush and his people monitoring what was
taking place? Obviously not. They obviously were not doing their jobs.

Bush should have thrown Dodd and Frank in jail.



NAZI??? Obama wants a "Civilian National Security Force"....last known
example of that was under Hitler.

I sure didn't hear him advocating that they be given police or
military powers. Or even guns. Sounded more like FDR's call for a
Civilian Conservation Corps. Don't get carried away with YouTube
videos showing blacks in marching ranks, that's just a common practice
for black fraternities.

The suggestion to murder for political reasons is the exact reason liberals
should never be in control.

Too late. We are. You better hide Neocon. But, don't worry, we don't
want to kill you, just your stupid failed neocon policies.


You think you are. You will shortly find out how impotent you are.

You're a fine example of the hatred and disgust of the left.

Yep. Ditto for you and the right. You lost. Get used to that fact. Go
back, try harder and get better candidates. If you don't get used to
complaining. You seem to be pretty good at it.

He didn't lose. You are the loser.

America chose to repudiate your philosophy. A significant majority of
Americans disagree with you.

Live with it.

"Living well is the best revenge."

"SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim" wrote in message
m...

now this is funny, bush has completely destroyed the constitution, greed
is rampant, bush singlehandedly destroyed the u.s. economy, and you're
scared of the demcorats?

you should be scared of the dumbass nazi

Thread over. Godwin's law invoked.

David Hartung wrote:

"Yes, I realize that I am in a small minority. I am one of those who
believes that government governs best, when it governs least. "


Reply:
Yes, small minority. But we have to hope that we grow
over time and that other people will wake up. while we still maybe
have some time. As a Canadian, living in a country that has pretty
well gone socialist over the past fifty years, even with the odd
conservative government, I feel pretty alone being a Libertarian.
If I was an American citizen, I would have supported Ron Paul. Not
sure how my American friends and relatives voted.
At least you know your not alone. Libertarians in the U.S., Canada,
and Europe are trying hard to wake people up to the idea of individual
freedom, and personal responsibility, and small government. Government
should be the servant of the people, not the people the servants of
the government.
Best wishes.

Cato wrote:

David Hartung wrote:

"Yes, I realize that I am in a small minority. I am one of those who
believes that government governs best, when it governs least. "

Reply:
Yes, small minority. But we have to hope that we grow
over time and that other people will wake up. while we still maybe
have some time. As a Canadian, living in a country that has pretty
well gone socialist over the past fifty years, even with the odd
conservative government, I feel pretty alone being a Libertarian.
If I was an American citizen, I would have supported Ron Paul. Not
sure how my American friends and relatives voted.
At least you know your not alone. Libertarians in the U.S., Canada,
and Europe are trying hard to wake people up to the idea of individual
freedom, and personal responsibility, and small government. Government
should be the servant of the people, not the people the servants of
the government.
Best wishes.

See! You're NOT a dumbass Canuck!

I applaud your bravery.