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John Smith wrote:

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Actually, Telemundo is just the same old idiot, pulling the same old
tricks and attempting to appear as a guru to those possessing even less
knowledge than himself ...

I never even commented on where the placement of the matchbox would be,
and, as everyone knows, anywhere along the line you can place it. The
best place would be between the coax (feedline) and the antenna--that
is, taking for granted that the match from your rig to the feedline is
perfect.

However, no matter where you place the matchbox (including up telemundos
butt), its' losses remain constant, and, it is a net loss to the system
... and the poor antenna remains just as poor--its' faults having been
masked.

Next end-run please?

Regards,
JS


Now, let me give you a mechanical example, so those willing and/or able
may grasp the concept, in fact, let me give you a couple:

1) The neighbors light is shining in my window(s), it is too bright too
sleep--I place a thick blanket over the window--WAALAA, "masked" the
problem!

2) The neighbors stereo is too loud. I plug my ears, again, WAALAAA,
problem fixed!

3) [add your own example here]

telemundo is an argumentative idiot with a poor working knowledge of
what discussions he engages in ... :-(

But then, if you don't possess the knowledge/experience to be able to
realize this, no one can blame you for being fooled ... later.

Regards,
JS
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John Smith wrote:


Now, let me give you a mechanical example, so those willing and/or able
may grasp the concept, in fact, let me give you a couple:

1) The neighbors light is shining in my window(s), it is too bright too
sleep--I place a thick blanket over the window--WAALAA, "masked" the
problem!

2) The neighbors stereo is too loud. I plug my ears, again, WAALAAA,
problem fixed!

3) [add your own example here]

telemundo is an argumentative idiot with a poor working knowledge of
what discussions he engages in ... :-(

But then, if you don't possess the knowledge/experience to be able to
realize this, no one can blame you for being fooled ... later.

Regards,
JS

Telemundo is a subsidiary of General Electric.

Your analogies don't hold up. You cannot transmit with a Beveridge and
you cannot transmit with a ferrite loop.

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Dave wrote:

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Your analogies don't hold up. You cannot transmit with a Beveridge and
you cannot transmit with a ferrite loop.


You CAN transmit with both.

And, only emphasizes the importance of what I have been saying, most
would pick the most efficient possible antenna--both examples, of yours,
are less than most efficient ... even for receiving, the ferrite
loop-stick on an a AM/MW radio is far from first choice ... it is
convenient, cheap and highly-portable, however.

Regards,
JS
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On Dec 29, 5:52*am, Dave wrote:
John Smith wrote:

Now, let me give you a mechanical example, so those willing and/or able
may grasp the concept, in fact, let me give you a couple:


1) The neighbors light is shining in my window(s), it is too bright too
sleep--I place a thick blanket over the window--WAALAA, "masked" the
problem!


2) The neighbors stereo is too loud. *I plug my ears, again, WAALAAA,
problem fixed!


3) [add your own example here]


telemundo is an argumentative idiot with a poor working knowledge of
what discussions he engages in *... *:-(


But then, if you don't possess the knowledge/experience to be able to
realize this, no one can blame you for being fooled ... later.


Regards,
JS


- Telemundo is a subsidiary of General Electric.
-
- Your analogies don't hold up.
-*You cannot transmit with a Beveridge
- and you cannot transmit with a ferrite loop.

Dave -says- You cannot transmit with a Beveridge and

Dave that is "Beverage" Antenna
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beverage_antenna
and sure you can Transmit with it.
http://www.qsl.net/k2hq/bev.htm
http://www.kkn.net/~n2nc/bev_arrays/
http://members.cox.net/kb1gw/bev-page.htm
http://www.n0hr.com/hamradio/66/10/ham_radio0.htm
http://www.seed-solutions.com/gregor...n/Beverage.htm

-IF- You really wanted a Beverage Antenna for very
Directional Transmitting : Single-point on a Single
Frequency : You might try one at 1.5 WL or 3 WL

Dave -says- you cannot transmit with a ferrite loop.

Sure you can Dave and Ferrite Rod Transmitting
http://www.st-andrews.ac.uk/~www_pa/...rt7/page5.html
Antennas are just about every where you go . . .
http://www.radio-electronics.com/inf...od_antenna.php
-think- Low Power Very Directional Transmitting
Antenna RFID Detection Exit Door Systems in
many Retail Stores : Some/Many of these use
Ferrite Rod Transmitting Antennas {Transponders}.
http://www.elnamagnetics.com/library/rfant.pdf

Dave even Arnie Coro "DXers Unlimited" [RHC]
says it can be done ;-}
http://www.radiohc.org/Distributions...s/01-1222.html
"you can build a ferrite rod loop antenna"
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RHF wrote:

Dave even Arnie Coro "DXers Unlimited" [RHC]
says it can be done ;-}
http://www.radiohc.org/Distributions...s/01-1222.html
"you can build a ferrite rod loop antenna"
.
all things are 'possible' : especially for the man
who does not know that he can not do it ~ RHF


Arnie Coro also recommends the T2FD.


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In article ,
Dave wrote:

RHF wrote:

Dave even Arnie Coro "DXers Unlimited" [RHC]
says it can be done ;-}
http://www.radiohc.org/Distributions...s/01-1222.html
"you can build a ferrite rod loop antenna"
.
all things are 'possible' : especially for the man
who does not know that he can not do it ~ RHF


Arnie Coro also recommends the T2FD.


This is a closed loop type of antenna, which in my opinion is safer than
a single wire connected to a portable as far as static charge on the
single wire blowing the radios front end FET amplifier.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California
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