On Feb 6, 5:57*pm, dave wrote:
Telamon wrote:

Which has naught to do with the question of overhead VS underground
power lines.

Now answer the question you originally posed.

I said you either bury the power lines or trim the trees. *Doing nothing
because it may be a long time before there's a storm is gambling with
people's lives.

We used to be better than that.

- We are a mediocre second-rate ******** country nowadays.

Dave -proclaims- - We Are A Mediocre Second-Rate
****-Hole Country Nowadays.

Dave - I am sure that President Obama enjoys
your support of his Leadership. ~ RHF

On Feb 6, 7:12*pm, dave wrote:
Telamon wrote:

OK so you refuse to look at the cost/benefit analysis of overhead lines
verses underground and just want to baselessly argue the point that
underground is a wiser decision. I just wanted to understand your point..

Apparently you want to do the same thing for the amount of tree trimming
that "should" be done.

You should be on the obomination team dictating how we all should be
living our lives as I'm sure you could do a better job than any of us
are doing.

I don't know about you but I'm wondering when my Federal and state of
Cale-forn-na tax refund checks will show up.

Cost/benefit analysis is no way to deal with people's essential
services. *That is a slippery slope that invariably ends with people dying.

I am neutral on Mr. Obama, but I have seen nothing indicating that he
plans to tell anyone how to live. *It is quite a stretch to equate me
stating that disasters are made worse by inaction, to a desire to
micromanage strangers' lives.

People who overpay their taxes all year and then get refunds are morons.
- I will cut the state a check, like I do every year.

For many Californians Claiming one or more extra
Tax Deductions to Zero-Out their CY2009 {2010}
Tax Refund will be the first thing they do when they
get their CA State "IOU" : Result the CA State
Weekly Cash-In-Flow will be Cut by ~12% and
California will be even more Cash Strapped.

NOTE - For many of the Low-Income-Poor in the
State of California who benefited by the States
Negative Income Tax : Paid $500 in CA Income
Taxes and Get Paid $1500 in CA Tax Refund :
The CA State IOUs will be a real cash crunch
for them.

FWIW - The California Negative Income Tax
is a 'classic' Wealth Redistribution System.
Over Taxing High Income Earners and Giving
Extra {Additional} Tax Moneys Back to the
Low-Income-Poor {Non-Tax Payers}.

real smart thinking der govenator ~ RHF

-*Do you enjoy loaning money (interest free)
- to your hero Arnold?

NO ! - Try to keep it Zero-Out within +or--$99.

RHF wrote:
On Feb 6, 5:57 pm, dave wrote:


- We are a mediocre second-rate ******** country nowadays.

Dave -proclaims- - We Are A Mediocre Second-Rate
****-Hole Country Nowadays.

Dave - I am sure that President Obama enjoys
your support of his Leadership. ~ RHF
.

Not as much as I enjoy your loyalty to the radicals.

In article ,
dave wrote:

Telamon wrote:


Wow, that's quite a non-answer. Cost/benefit has nothing to do with
people dying or not, it has to do with the best use of money and effort.

That is absurd on its face

So the way businesses operate is absurd then.

If you cut a check every year and you are more than 10% off you will be
paying another assessment.

I didn't say a minimal amount of skill wasn't required

What skill would that be? Keep moving so they don't catch up with you?

I try to have my tax deductions keep pace with my obligations but things
change throughout the year. My tax guy was worth way more than his fee
this year.

I use HR Block Tak Cut Premium. Way more accurate than a human.

I deal directly with a human being, a friend actually, instead of some
corporate entity like H&R Block.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Telamon wrote:
In article ,
dave wrote:

Telamon wrote:

Wow, that's quite a non-answer. Cost/benefit has nothing to do with
people dying or not, it has to do with the best use of money and effort.
That is absurd on its face

So the way businesses operate is absurd then.

From your lips to God's ears.

If you cut a check every year and you are more than 10% off you will be
paying another assessment.
I didn't say a minimal amount of skill wasn't required

What skill would that be? Keep moving so they don't catch up with you?

The skill is keeping your liability below the trigger level for
penalties. I cut a check for a couple hundred bucks.

I try to have my tax deductions keep pace with my obligations but things
change throughout the year. My tax guy was worth way more than his fee
this year.

I use HR Block Tak Cut Premium. Way more accurate than a human.

I deal directly with a human being, a friend actually, instead of some
corporate entity like H&R Block.

HR Block Tax Cut is a computer program. It is very accurate.

In article ,
dave wrote:

Telamon wrote:
In article ,
dave wrote:

Telamon wrote:

Wow, that's quite a non-answer. Cost/benefit has nothing to do with
people dying or not, it has to do with the best use of money and effort.
That is absurd on its face

So the way businesses operate is absurd then.

From your lips to God's ears.

More from my post than lips but, pray tell, what would you advocate in
the place of rational thought?

If you cut a check every year and you are more than 10% off you will be
paying another assessment.
I didn't say a minimal amount of skill wasn't required

What skill would that be? Keep moving so they don't catch up with you?

The skill is keeping your liability below the trigger level for
penalties. I cut a check for a couple hundred bucks.

I made larger retirement contributions than I originally expected to
make due to the stock market crashing as I elected not to invest last
year. If I don't get my refund in a reasonable amount of time from the
state and Fed's I will decease my withholding accordingly.

I try to have my tax deductions keep pace with my obligations but things
change throughout the year. My tax guy was worth way more than his fee
this year.

I use HR Block Tak Cut Premium. Way more accurate than a human.

I deal directly with a human being, a friend actually, instead of some
corporate entity like H&R Block.

HR Block Tax Cut is a computer program. It is very accurate.

They are not human and they make mistakes. They don't care about you.
The mistakes are usually omissions so the IRS will not care either. You
go to these people to have your taxes done and you end up paying more
then you should. Not so smart.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Telamon wrote:
In article ,
dave wrote:

Telamon wrote:
In article ,
dave wrote:

Telamon wrote:

Wow, that's quite a non-answer. Cost/benefit has nothing to do with
people dying or not, it has to do with the best use of money and effort.
That is absurd on its face
So the way businesses operate is absurd then.
From your lips to God's ears.

More from my post than lips but, pray tell, what would you advocate in
the place of rational thought?

If you cut a check every year and you are more than 10% off you will be
paying another assessment.
I didn't say a minimal amount of skill wasn't required
What skill would that be? Keep moving so they don't catch up with you?
The skill is keeping your liability below the trigger level for
penalties. I cut a check for a couple hundred bucks.

I made larger retirement contributions than I originally expected to
make due to the stock market crashing as I elected not to invest last
year. If I don't get my refund in a reasonable amount of time from the
state and Fed's I will decease my withholding accordingly.

I try to have my tax deductions keep pace with my obligations but things
change throughout the year. My tax guy was worth way more than his fee
this year.

I use HR Block Tak Cut Premium. Way more accurate than a human.
I deal directly with a human being, a friend actually, instead of some
corporate entity like H&R Block.

HR Block Tax Cut is a computer program. It is very accurate.

They are not human and they make mistakes. They don't care about you.
The mistakes are usually omissions so the IRS will not care either. You
go to these people to have your taxes done and you end up paying more
then you should. Not so smart.

Including efile it's under a $100. I have used tax guys in the past.

"dave" wrote in message
...
David Eduardo wrote:

"dave" wrote in message
...
David Eduardo wrote:


Trees don't grow on their "plant." They grow along the right of way.
Utilities have trimming programs, but if they trimmed to the degree
needed in a major storm, entire cities would protest. You can't prepare
for everything.

Why would they protest?

The degree of trimming needed to protect against every contingency would
leave little more than the trunk.

Not trimming trees around power lines is false
economy. It will cost more in the long run.

No, preventing once in a lifetime occurrences every year is always more
expensive.

How many people freezing to death is acceptable in your twisted world?


You can spend trillions, and you can't stop full trees from falling over or
tornados from hitting mobile homes.

On Feb 7, 9:19*am, dave wrote:
RHF wrote:
On Feb 6, 5:57 pm, dave wrote:

- - - We are a mediocre second-rate ******** country nowadays.

- - Dave -proclaims- - We Are A Mediocre Second-Rate
- - ****-Hole Country Nowadays.

- - Dave - I am sure that President Obama enjoys
- - your support of his Leadership. ~ RHF

- Not as much as I enjoy your loyalty to the radicals.

? Radicals ?

In article
,
RHF wrote:

On Feb 7, 12:13*pm, Telamon
wrote:
In article ,

*dave wrote:
Telamon wrote:
In article ,
*dave wrote:

Telamon wrote:

Wow, that's quite a non-answer. Cost/benefit has nothing to do with
people dying or not, it has to do with the best use of money and
effort.
That is absurd on its face

So the way businesses operate is absurd then.

*From your lips to God's ears.

More from my post than lips but, pray tell, what would you advocate in
the place of rational thought?

If you cut a check every year and you are more than 10% off you will
be
paying another assessment.
I didn't say a minimal amount of skill wasn't required

What skill would that be? Keep moving so they don't catch up with you?

The skill is keeping your liability below the trigger level for
penalties. *I cut a check for a couple hundred bucks.

I made larger retirement contributions than I originally expected to
make due to the stock market crashing as I elected not to invest last
year. If I don't get my refund in a reasonable amount of time from the
state and Fed's I will decease my withholding accordingly.

I try to have my tax deductions keep pace with my obligations but
things
change throughout the year. My tax guy was worth way more than his
fee
this year.

I use HR Block Tak Cut Premium. *Way more accurate than a human.

I deal directly with a human being, a friend actually, instead of some
corporate entity like H&R Block.

HR Block Tax Cut is a computer program. *It is very accurate.

They are not human and they make mistakes. They don't care about you.
The mistakes are usually omissions so the IRS will not care either. You
go to these people to have your taxes done and you end up paying more
then you should. Not so smart.


Many/Most Tax Preparers use some sort of
Tax Softwave as a Guide or as an Aid during

SNIP

I use a professional accountant that reads the tax code and prepares my
return tailored to my unique situation. My returns are computerized and
my refund is automatically deposited in my account. I'm not going to
some large business to be treated like a number and have my taxes
prepared in a way that follows some formula that covers a lot of other
people. Screw that.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California