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On Mar 13, 1:42 am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
wrote in message ... On Mar 12, 5:50 pm, PocketRadio wrote: "Rumor: Citadel is turning off HD to save (electric) expenses." http://lists.radiolists.net/pipermai...ch/086066.html LMFAO! Expect the rest of he jammers and scammers to turn off IBOC - they are all going under and can't even afford their electrical bills! Hope it's true. What do you think Eduardo? HD hardly uses any electrical. A sidelight on a tower uses more than most. Citadel turned of HD on a couple of AMs which were interfering at night, WABC an WJR. Eduardo -YDF - You can't have it both ways - Either the interference is a significant problem on AM or it's not. How come WBZ or KDKA or WHAM or WWVA keep their hd on full time? I'm within the protective contour of KDKA and WBZ interferes with them at night. |
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![]() wrote in message ... On Mar 13, 1:42 am, "David Eduardo" wrote: wrote in message ... On Mar 12, 5:50 pm, PocketRadio wrote: "Rumor: Citadel is turning off HD to save (electric) expenses." http://lists.radiolists.net/pipermai...ch/086066.html LMFAO! Expect the rest of he jammers and scammers to turn off IBOC - they are all going under and can't even afford their electrical bills! Hope it's true. What do you think Eduardo? HD hardly uses any electrical. A sidelight on a tower uses more than most. Citadel turned of HD on a couple of AMs which were interfering at night, WABC an WJR. Eduardo -YDF - You can't have it both ways - Either the interference is a significant problem on AM or it's not. How come WBZ or KDKA or WHAM or WWVA keep their hd on full time? I'm within the protective contour of KDKA and WBZ interferes with them at night. To stations, the issue is not the protected contour but the groundwave useful coverage area and the dimensions of the Arbitron metro. WHAM and WWVA have no interference in their metros or areas immediately surrounding them. Neither do KDKA and WBZ. But apparently, WJR and WABC had problems in areas right at the edge of the metros, and decided it was not worth keeping the HD on at night. Since night radio listening is only a tiny part of day listening, the decision is relatively simple. |
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On Mar 13, 11:58 am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
wrote in message ... On Mar 13, 1:42 am, "David Eduardo" wrote: wrote in message ... On Mar 12, 5:50 pm, PocketRadio wrote: "Rumor: Citadel is turning off HD to save (electric) expenses." http://lists.radiolists.net/pipermai...ch/086066.html LMFAO! Expect the rest of he jammers and scammers to turn off IBOC - they are all going under and can't even afford their electrical bills! Hope it's true. What do you think Eduardo? HD hardly uses any electrical. A sidelight on a tower uses more than most. Citadel turned of HD on a couple of AMs which were interfering at night, WABC an WJR. Eduardo -YDF - You can't have it both ways - Either the interference is a significant problem on AM or it's not. How come WBZ or KDKA or WHAM or WWVA keep their hd on full time? I'm within the protective contour of KDKA and WBZ interferes with them at night. To stations, the issue is not the protected contour but the groundwave useful coverage area and the dimensions of the Arbitron metro. WHAM and WWVA have no interference in their metros or areas immediately surrounding them. Neither do KDKA and WBZ. But apparently, WJR and WABC had problems in areas right at the edge of the metros, and decided it was not worth keeping the HD on at night. Since night radio listening is only a tiny part of day listening, the decision is relatively simple. Eduardo - You really don't know what your talking about. WBZ is a times as strong or stronger than KDKA's groundwave in their local area. This is not debatable. WBZ hash can be heard under KDKA most nights. Why either of them is transmitting it is a mystery to me. The only thing I can figure is they've bought into the idiotic notion that people will eventually come if they keep pushing it. This was a decision based on wishful marketing and foolish station owner/ operators not interference - of which there is plenty. |
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On Mar 13, 12:32 pm, wrote:
On Mar 13, 11:58 am, "David Eduardo" wrote: wrote in message ... On Mar 13, 1:42 am, "David Eduardo" wrote: wrote in message ... On Mar 12, 5:50 pm, PocketRadio wrote: "Rumor: Citadel is turning off HD to save (electric) expenses." http://lists.radiolists.net/pipermai...ch/086066.html LMFAO! Expect the rest of he jammers and scammers to turn off IBOC - they are all going under and can't even afford their electrical bills! Hope it's true. What do you think Eduardo? HD hardly uses any electrical. A sidelight on a tower uses more than most. Citadel turned of HD on a couple of AMs which were interfering at night, WABC an WJR. Eduardo -YDF - You can't have it both ways - Either the interference is a significant problem on AM or it's not. How come WBZ or KDKA or WHAM or WWVA keep their hd on full time? I'm within the protective contour of KDKA and WBZ interferes with them at night. To stations, the issue is not the protected contour but the groundwave useful coverage area and the dimensions of the Arbitron metro. WHAM and WWVA have no interference in their metros or areas immediately surrounding them. Neither do KDKA and WBZ. But apparently, WJR and WABC had problems in areas right at the edge of the metros, and decided it was not worth keeping the HD on at night. Since night radio listening is only a tiny part of day listening, the decision is relatively simple. Eduardo - You really don't know what your talking about. WBZ is a times as strong or stronger than KDKA's groundwave in their local area. This is not debatable. WBZ hash can be heard under KDKA most nights. Why either of them is transmitting it is a mystery to me. The only thing I can figure is they've bought into the idiotic notion that people will eventually come if they keep pushing it. This was a decision based on wishful marketing and foolish station owner/ operators not interference - of which there is plenty. Eduardo - IBOC / HD radio is all about recklessly trying to making money with no regard for any other issue, be that interference, consumer wants or needs, smaller broadcaster coverage areas, or anything else you can think of. You mistakenly think there was actual thought that goes into who transmits it and who doesn't - as if there is some "big-picture" plan. There is not. Its all about economics and the possibility of making big $$. Greed and nothing else. A wiser Goverment would have never allowed it. But that we no longer have. |
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On Mar 13, 12:47 pm, wrote:
On Mar 13, 12:32 pm, wrote: On Mar 13, 11:58 am, "David Eduardo" wrote: wrote in message ... On Mar 13, 1:42 am, "David Eduardo" wrote: wrote in message ... On Mar 12, 5:50 pm, PocketRadio wrote: "Rumor: Citadel is turning off HD to save (electric) expenses." http://lists.radiolists.net/pipermai...ch/086066.html LMFAO! Expect the rest of he jammers and scammers to turn off IBOC - they are all going under and can't even afford their electrical bills! Hope it's true. What do you think Eduardo? HD hardly uses any electrical. A sidelight on a tower uses more than most. Citadel turned of HD on a couple of AMs which were interfering at night, WABC an WJR. Eduardo -YDF - You can't have it both ways - Either the interference is a significant problem on AM or it's not. How come WBZ or KDKA or WHAM or WWVA keep their hd on full time? I'm within the protective contour of KDKA and WBZ interferes with them at night. To stations, the issue is not the protected contour but the groundwave useful coverage area and the dimensions of the Arbitron metro. WHAM and WWVA have no interference in their metros or areas immediately surrounding them. Neither do KDKA and WBZ. But apparently, WJR and WABC had problems in areas right at the edge of the metros, and decided it was not worth keeping the HD on at night. Since night radio listening is only a tiny part of day listening, the decision is relatively simple. Eduardo - You really don't know what your talking about. WBZ is a times as strong or stronger than KDKA's groundwave in their local area. This is not debatable. WBZ hash can be heard under KDKA most nights. Why either of them is transmitting it is a mystery to me. The only thing I can figure is they've bought into the idiotic notion that people will eventually come if they keep pushing it. This was a decision based on wishful marketing and foolish station owner/ operators not interference - of which there is plenty. Eduardo - IBOC / HD radio is all about recklessly trying to making money with no regard for any other issue, be that interference, consumer wants or needs, smaller broadcaster coverage areas, or anything else you can think of. You mistakenly think there was actual thought that goes into who transmits it and who doesn't - as if there is some "big-picture" plan. There is not. Its all about economics and the possibility of making big $$. Greed and nothing else. A wiser Goverment would have never allowed it. But that we no longer have. With all your statistics and facts you are amazingly ignorant of reality and I say that with all due respect. Put the trade magazines down and think for yourself - if you can still do that. |
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On Mar 13, 12:52 pm, wrote:
On Mar 13, 12:47 pm, wrote: On Mar 13, 12:32 pm, wrote: On Mar 13, 11:58 am, "David Eduardo" wrote: wrote in message ... On Mar 13, 1:42 am, "David Eduardo" wrote: wrote in message ... On Mar 12, 5:50 pm, PocketRadio wrote: "Rumor: Citadel is turning off HD to save (electric) expenses." http://lists.radiolists.net/pipermai...ch/086066.html LMFAO! Expect the rest of he jammers and scammers to turn off IBOC - they are all going under and can't even afford their electrical bills! Hope it's true. What do you think Eduardo? HD hardly uses any electrical. A sidelight on a tower uses more than most. Citadel turned of HD on a couple of AMs which were interfering at night, WABC an WJR. Eduardo -YDF - You can't have it both ways - Either the interference is a significant problem on AM or it's not. How come WBZ or KDKA or WHAM or WWVA keep their hd on full time? I'm within the protective contour of KDKA and WBZ interferes with them at night. To stations, the issue is not the protected contour but the groundwave useful coverage area and the dimensions of the Arbitron metro. WHAM and WWVA have no interference in their metros or areas immediately surrounding them. Neither do KDKA and WBZ. But apparently, WJR and WABC had problems in areas right at the edge of the metros, and decided it was not worth keeping the HD on at night. Since night radio listening is only a tiny part of day listening, the decision is relatively simple. Eduardo - You really don't know what your talking about. WBZ is a times as strong or stronger than KDKA's groundwave in their local area. This is not debatable. WBZ hash can be heard under KDKA most nights. Why either of them is transmitting it is a mystery to me. The only thing I can figure is they've bought into the idiotic notion that people will eventually come if they keep pushing it. This was a decision based on wishful marketing and foolish station owner/ operators not interference - of which there is plenty. Eduardo - IBOC / HD radio is all about recklessly trying to making money with no regard for any other issue, be that interference, consumer wants or needs, smaller broadcaster coverage areas, or anything else you can think of. You mistakenly think there was actual thought that goes into who transmits it and who doesn't - as if there is some "big-picture" plan. There is not. Its all about economics and the possibility of making big $$. Greed and nothing else. A wiser Goverment would have never allowed it. But that we no longer have. With all your statistics and facts you are amazingly ignorant of reality and I say that with all due respect. Put the trade magazines down and think for yourself - if you can still do that. Eduardo - You're the kind of person that would be absolutely be lost if you couldn't stand behind a bunch of statistical information that you yourself didn't even compile but you read it somewhere. Then, you show up and spew this crap and think yourself smart and informed. You may be impressing yourself but you don't impress me. |
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On Mar 13, 1:08�pm, wrote:
On Mar 13, 12:52 pm, wrote: On Mar 13, 12:47 pm, wrote: On Mar 13, 12:32 pm, wrote: On Mar 13, 11:58 am, "David Eduardo" wrote: wrote in message ... On Mar 13, 1:42 am, "David Eduardo" wrote: wrote in message ... On Mar 12, 5:50 pm, PocketRadio wrote: "Rumor: Citadel is turning off HD to save (electric) expenses." http://lists.radiolists.net/pipermai...ch/086066.html LMFAO! Expect the rest of he jammers and scammers to turn off IBOC - they are all going under and can't even afford their electrical bills! Hope it's true. What do you think Eduardo? HD hardly uses any electrical. A sidelight on a tower uses more than most. Citadel turned of HD on a couple of AMs which were interfering at night, WABC an WJR. Eduardo -YDF - You can't have it both ways - Either the interference is a significant problem on AM or it's not. �How come WBZ or KDKA or WHAM or WWVA keep their hd on full time? �I'm within the protective contour of KDKA and WBZ interferes with them at night. To stations, the issue is not the protected contour but the groundwave useful coverage area and the dimensions of the Arbitron metro. WHAM and WWVA have no interference in their metros or areas immediately surrounding them. Neither do KDKA and WBZ. But apparently, WJR and WABC had problems in areas right at the edge of the metros, and decided it was not worth keeping the HD on at night. Since night radio listening is only a tiny part of day listening, the decision is relatively simple. Eduardo - You really don't know what your talking about. �WBZ is a times as strong or stronger than KDKA's groundwave in their local area. �This is not debatable. �WBZ hash can be heard under KDKA most nights. �Why either of them is transmitting it is a mystery to me. The only thing I can figure is they've bought into the idiotic notion that people will eventually come if they keep pushing it. �This was a decision based on wishful marketing and foolish station owner/ operators not interference - of which there is plenty. Eduardo - IBOC / HD radio is all about recklessly trying to making money with no regard for any other issue, be that interference, consumer wants or needs, smaller broadcaster coverage areas, or anything else you can think of. You mistakenly think there was actual thought that goes into who transmits it and who doesn't - as if there is some "big-picture" plan. �There is not. �Its all about economics and the possibility of making big $$. �Greed and nothing else. A wiser Goverment would have never allowed it. �But that we no longer have. With all your statistics and facts you are amazingly ignorant of reality and I say that with all due respect. Put the trade magazines down and think for yourself - if you can still do that. �Eduardo - You're the kind of person that would be absolutely be lost if you couldn't stand behind a bunch of statistical information that you yourself didn't even compile but you read it somewhere. Then, you show up and spew this crap and think yourself smart and informed. You may be impressing yourself but you don't impress me.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - or, anyone else... |
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![]() wrote: On Mar 13, 12:52 pm, wrote: On Mar 13, 12:47 pm, wrote: On Mar 13, 12:32 pm, wrote: On Mar 13, 11:58 am, "David Eduardo" wrote: wrote in message ... On Mar 13, 1:42 am, "David Eduardo" wrote: wrote in message ... On Mar 12, 5:50 pm, PocketRadio wrote: "Rumor: Citadel is turning off HD to save (electric) expenses." http://lists.radiolists.net/pipermai...ch/086066.html LMFAO! Expect the rest of he jammers and scammers to turn off IBOC - they are all going under and can't even afford their electrical bills! Hope it's true. What do you think Eduardo? HD hardly uses any electrical. A sidelight on a tower uses more than most. Citadel turned of HD on a couple of AMs which were interfering at night, WABC an WJR. Eduardo -YDF - You can't have it both ways - Either the interference is a significant problem on AM or it's not. How come WBZ or KDKA or WHAM or WWVA keep their hd on full time? I'm within the protective contour of KDKA and WBZ interferes with them at night. To stations, the issue is not the protected contour but the groundwave useful coverage area and the dimensions of the Arbitron metro. WHAM and WWVA have no interference in their metros or areas immediately surrounding them. Neither do KDKA and WBZ. But apparently, WJR and WABC had problems in areas right at the edge of the metros, and decided it was not worth keeping the HD on at night. Since night radio listening is only a tiny part of day listening, the decision is relatively simple. Eduardo - You really don't know what your talking about. WBZ is a times as strong or stronger than KDKA's groundwave in their local area. This is not debatable. WBZ hash can be heard under KDKA most nights. Why either of them is transmitting it is a mystery to me. The only thing I can figure is they've bought into the idiotic notion that people will eventually come if they keep pushing it. This was a decision based on wishful marketing and foolish station owner/ operators not interference - of which there is plenty. Eduardo - IBOC / HD radio is all about recklessly trying to making money with no regard for any other issue, be that interference, consumer wants or needs, smaller broadcaster coverage areas, or anything else you can think of. You mistakenly think there was actual thought that goes into who transmits it and who doesn't - as if there is some "big-picture" plan. There is not. Its all about economics and the possibility of making big $$. Greed and nothing else. A wiser Goverment would have never allowed it. But that we no longer have. With all your statistics and facts you are amazingly ignorant of reality and I say that with all due respect. Put the trade magazines down and think for yourself - if you can still do that. Eduardo - You're the kind of person that would be absolutely be lost if you couldn't stand behind a bunch of statistical information that you yourself didn't even compile but you read it somewhere. Then, you show up and spew this crap and think yourself smart and informed. That's our 'Eduardo', Bryant Sierra all the way! dxAce Michigan USA And, as always, don't let your children attend Louisville Technical Institute. They've hired at least one dufus who once claimed to have a PhD, and who knows, there may be more dufi there. |
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On Mar 13, 12:47�pm, wrote:
On Mar 13, 12:32 pm, wrote: On Mar 13, 11:58 am, "David Eduardo" wrote: wrote in message .... On Mar 13, 1:42 am, "David Eduardo" wrote: wrote in message ... On Mar 12, 5:50 pm, PocketRadio wrote: "Rumor: Citadel is turning off HD to save (electric) expenses." http://lists.radiolists.net/pipermai...ch/086066.html LMFAO! Expect the rest of he jammers and scammers to turn off IBOC - they are all going under and can't even afford their electrical bills! Hope it's true. What do you think Eduardo? HD hardly uses any electrical. A sidelight on a tower uses more than most. Citadel turned of HD on a couple of AMs which were interfering at night, WABC an WJR. Eduardo -YDF - You can't have it both ways - Either the interference is a significant problem on AM or it's not. �How come WBZ or KDKA or WHAM or WWVA keep their hd on full time? �I'm within the protective contour of KDKA and WBZ interferes with them at night. To stations, the issue is not the protected contour but the groundwave useful coverage area and the dimensions of the Arbitron metro. WHAM and WWVA have no interference in their metros or areas immediately surrounding them. Neither do KDKA and WBZ. But apparently, WJR and WABC had problems in areas right at the edge of the metros, and decided it was not worth keeping the HD on at night. Since night radio listening is only a tiny part of day listening, the decision is relatively simple. Eduardo - You really don't know what your talking about. �WBZ is a times as strong or stronger than KDKA's groundwave in their local area. �This is not debatable. �WBZ hash can be heard under KDKA most nights. �Why either of them is transmitting it is a mystery to me. The only thing I can figure is they've bought into the idiotic notion that people will eventually come if they keep pushing it. �This was a decision based on wishful marketing and foolish station owner/ operators not interference - of which there is plenty. Eduardo - IBOC / HD radio is all about recklessly trying to making money with no regard for any other issue, be that interference, consumer wants or needs, smaller broadcaster coverage areas, or anything else you can think of. You mistakenly think there was actual thought that goes into who transmits it and who doesn't - as if there is some "big-picture" plan. �There is not. �Its all about economics and the possibility of making big $$. �Greed and nothing else. A wiser Goverment would have never allowed it. �But that we no longer have.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - "Independent Radio Destroyed By Design" "Instead of honest competition, they decided they would make the government compel all broadcasters to convert to digital on the existing AM and FM bands. To accomplish this, the NAB plans to double the amount of space on the dial that a station uses, thus jamming the signals of weaker stations next to them on the dial... Grassroots defenders of independent radio have found proof that a new airwaves regulatory plan will jam and eventually destroy the signals of small community, religious, and college radio stations... In addition to eliminating competition, the true financial motive of the digital conversion is the creation of a new largely subscription system, called 'IBOC-DAB' (In-Band, On-Channel, Digital Audio Broadcasting)... The real plan is to make their money from selling that remaining space to send wireless data, not for a lively, competitive radio signal containing music and the lively debate and news of a vibrant Democracy." http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2002/03/8188.shtml Yup, it's al about jamming community radio stations off the dial. |
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