On Mar 14, 11:23*am, Evan Platt
wrote:
On Sat, 14 Mar 2009 06:53:11 -0400, dxAce
wrote:

He's merely a dufus who once claimed to have a PhD.

Not to bright.

I'm sure you meant "too".
--
To reply via e-mail, remove The Obvious from my e-mail address.

Grammarian usually has little to contribute to a discussion and
possesses few effective weapons. To compensate, he will point out
minor errors in spelling and grammar. Because of Grammarian's obvious
weakness most Warriors ignore him.

Just couldn't help myself.:-)

On Mar 15, 8:30*pm, Bushcraftgregg wrote:


Grammarian usually has little to contribute to a discussion and
possesses few effective weapons. To compensate, he will point out
minor errors in spelling and grammar. Because of Grammarian's obvious
weakness most Warriors ignore him.


I expect you to remind dxAss next time he corrects a typo. That's what
made catching Steve's typo so "special," he's ususally the one doimg
it....

I'll make sure to save your quote, just in case you are truly a
hypocrite.

On Mar 14, 2:28*pm, Telamon
wrote:
In article
,

*Bushcraftgregg wrote:
On Mar 14, 1:26*am, "~ RHF" wrote:
On Mar 13, 4:41*am, BCBlazysusan wrote:

Before I start, I hope this doesn't turn into another knock down
insult everyone thread because that isn't what I want.

I have heard about the new video by Alex Jones called "The Obama
Deception." And before everyone starts typing their insults, the video
isn't just a tear down on Obama, which I was somewhat surprised.

MUCH of it also centers around former president Bush, I'll tell you,
the one thing I like about Alex is all he does is gather the
information. He even tells people on his show and I think also on this
video to "not just believe him".....to actually take the info that he
stated and google it. When it comes to all these presidential things
and bills and laws that are signed under the cloak of darkness and no
one even really knows what their about, you can look them up yourself.
I will say this much, every time Alex has mentioned something on his
show or on his website....I always checked it out, and he hasn't
bullcrapped once.

The video is 1hr 53 minutes long but it is well worth the time for the
amount of information and knowledge and facts that can't be disputed
that you will obtain. One thing I think within twenty minutes...it is
when they are talking to the former governor Jesse Ventura. Call me
crazy but I always thought and believed in the "democrats vs.
republicans"....and so did/does everyone else in here because we all
have jumped into or started threads on Bush or Obama or Dems or
Republicans. Jesse says "it is like professional wrestling"....it is
all staged...it is an act...lol. Remember back right before the
election and a few jumped on me when I said I believed that "if voting
'truly' made a difference, the government would outlaw it." Well, I
thought I was right in saying that and I was.

It isn't about Democrats and Republicans or Bush/Clinton or even
Obama, that is what they want everyone to think. Please try to not
respond if you haven't watched it and just start bickering. I'd really
like to know what SC/Telamon/RHF/Brenda Ann/Ace/BDK even Mike if he
can be halfway decent (only if you watched it) and everyone else in
here says but you can't really respond to a post about a video if you
never watched it. Trust me when I say it isn't just a tear down on
Obama himself. The majority of us in here are Americans (I think) and
even I have been guilty of ripping on Obama and the democrats, I will
look at it all a lot different from now on. Out of all us Americans in
here I think Brenda Ann may be the smartest one for not actually
living in the states. ;-) It's going to get bad guys, really bad,
worse than anything most of us have experienced. If I didn't name your
name I apologize, I can't remember everyones off the top of my head
but I am really curious as to what you all think AFTER you watch the
video. It should make for some good OT discussion.:-) I wonder if it
can be civil and if not who is going to be the one that starts the
crap. Just go to youtube or google video and type in "Obama
Deception"...on youtube it comes in twelve parts and to me it was
easier just to watch them all together in one shot on google video.
Looking forward to the responses.

Fear of ObamaNomics© Destroyed to Valve of
100 Million American's Individual Retirement
Savings Accounts (IRAs, 401Ks & Roths)

1 - The Democrats Hate the Individual Freedom of
American's Individual Retirement Savings Accounts.
and have planned to destroy them for years.

2 - The Democrats want to force All Americans to
rely only on Social Security and become Totally
Dependent on the US Government for Support
giving the US Government {Democrats} complete
Control over Individual Americans Financial Freedom.

Until the pending Economic Collapse of the US
Treasury due to the Foreign Capital Pull-out :
Buy and Hold bankers boxes of 100CNY Chinese
Notes or open-up a Chinese Bank Account in
China Yuan {Renminbi} not US Dollars; along
with buying and holding Gold and Silver.

Within a year maybe three at most the US Dollar
will be worth 5 to 10 Cents and the Yuan will be
on Parity {equal} with the Dollar meaning a 600%
to 700% Gain in the Yuan Bank Account Holdings.
The Gold and Silver will show roughly an Equal
Gain against the US Dollar too.

The Euro will be BUST as well as the EU.

On the good side Foreign Goods and Services
will be too costly for Americans to buy with a
100 {old} US Dollar Chinese made Celphone
costing 500 {new} US Dollars at Wal*Mart.
Over the next Decade Jobs will becoming back
to America in Factories Owned and Operated
by Foreign Investors and Made-in-American
will be the good 'cheaper' Products on the Shelf.

Many most Illegal Mexican Invaders will be
going back to Mexico as living there 'poor'
will be easier than living in the USA 'poor'.

it's a 'vision' thingee ~ RHF
*.
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- Show quoted text -

I hear you. The part that is weird/strange/funny to me is "some" of
the guests (I don't remember all their names) on Coast to
Coast.....which is pretty out there at times....but some of their
guests nail this stuff EVERY time. I'm talking back as far as five ago
this one guy literally said EXACTLY what was going on with Freddie Mac
etc..and told everyone to mark it down. Dude was right. Another guest
on the price of gold.......dude hit it on the head. Alex, though many
try to portrat him as a nutjob, I just go by the results. That guy
flat out was screaming to high heaven a year BEFORE the WTC went down
that is was going to happen, hit it on the head.

The only part I am for lack of a better word..."confused" is that some
people call these people that are guest on C2C nuts or conspiracy
theorists. I always thought the word conspiracy was a "theory that
couldn't be proven." But over the years these "nuts" are calling it
before it happens. Either they/Alex has a crystal ball or they are
getting accurate intel.

I don't understand why some people actually don't believe that there
is actually groups called the Bilderbergs/CFR/Tri-Lateral Commission.
I've talked to people about it and it's like they simply will not
believe it no matter what, like it's easier to simply say it doesn't
exist and hope nothing goes down. I really believe that this isn't a
republican/democrat thing, that is what they want you to think and
keep everyone preoccupied with that type of thinking. I believe that
the presidency is simply just a title now and like that video
said.....the last "real" president we had was Kennedy.

Steve and Brenda Ann never gave their take yet. I was curious as to
how they felt, sad to say but I think Brenda Ann is safer where she's
at. ;-) I think though it will be too late before the majority gives
these people that are in the know that are called "nuts" now the
credibility they deserve. Thanks for your response RHF....did you
watch it, what did you think about Jesse "The Body" Ventura's
statement, he cracks me up. Waiting on the Telamon man now.

There was a conspiracy fostered upon me last night as I was searching
for the "Obama deception" movie. Somehow Google appended "trailer" to
"Obama deception" and so I only got results for the trailer and not the
movie. Once I noticed this alteration to my research query I then had
the movie URL.

What is the point I am trying to make above? This really happened but I
added an assumption about the "why" it happened. This is the problem
with Alex. He makes a movie that is for all intents and purposes
provides factual information about what has happened and then the "why"
is introduced unsupported by any factual information. The question
remains is does what Alex thinks is the reason for the current state of
the economy correct and that is unknown because he does not in 1 hour
and 53 minutes provide evidence of the why.

That aside I can agree with the evidence he does provide. Anyone can
search the news and find the same evidence he provided in the film.

Do I agree with the conclusions Alex makes that he does provide a
factual basis for? Of course. The 2 main parties members that fight each
other on TV and then vote the same way due to deal making is well known.
It is a major problem for us in California that just raised state tax
rates despite the economic conditions.

Is Obama turning 180 degrees on almost every campaign pledge? Yeah I
agree with that. He is doing everything now that he spoke out against
Bush for doing during the campaign on the war. The closing of Gitmo is
just a cover for what is happening where the inmates will be moved to
other foreign prisons to get even worse abuse than they have gotten in
the past. He signed a continuation of the Patriot act, pushed back the
exit date for troops in Iraq, and sent more troops to Afghanistan. It
looks like the missile defense is still proceeding in Poland, which
****es off the Russians and he just sent warships into the south China
seas in a dispute with China. All war systems are a go and are first
choice over diplomacy. On the domestic scene he is continuing the same
bailout policy Bush started and has even expanded it.

Obama has reintroduced the worst of the Clintoon administration with
Hillary this time as secretary of state to screw things up big time. The
film poses the question "did we get fooled again.² Well yeah!

The best point the film makes in my opinion is that the Obama cabinet is
composed only of lawyers whose only working experience is in banking and
finance to the exclusion of all wealth producing industry or resource
development so the entire cabinet is totally ignorant of how industry
functions.

The downside of the film was that it was so boring I fell asleep near
the end of it and I probably missed the last 20 minutes but I suspect I
didn't miss much. I don't think I could force myself to watch it again
to see the ending.

And that's the rest of the story, good day.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Great post Telamon, I appreciate your thoughts. I can tell from how
you touched on each point that you indeed watched it. I felt I learned
a lot after watching it. I also think "someone" who responded didn't
even watch it. ;-)

On Mar 15, 3:56*pm, "~ RHF" wrote:
On Mar 15, 3:44 am, Billy Burpelson wrote:

wrote:
What your "Man" didn't predict was the dereliction of duty of your
impeached Clintoon who was too preoccupied with having his dick sucked
while his wife enjoyed sexual relations with his other female staff.

- Gee, sort of like "someone" in the Bush/Cheney
- White House enjoying sexual relations with
- Gannon/Guckert, the male prostitute with the
- free pass to the White House?

billy burpelson, Billy Burpelson. BILLY BURPELSEN !
*.
So it's the old guilt-by-ass-sociation Gay Charges
concerning Bush & Cheney; republicans et al.
- - - while Gannon said nothing...
*.
Well here are some actual 'real' allegations about
Question : Is Obama Gay ?
-aka- The ObamaSexual©
- - - Larry Sinclair Is Talking . . .http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GquA1...?v=e8g5IqspsxI
*.
and Frankie is Talking too . . .http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIklJxXCHzY
*.
Document after Document Says So . . .http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvVEzb0edPE
*.
Fact after Fact Says So . . .http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fb6cwJ5ZK64
*.
Video after Video Says So . . .http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cV0DvHgMugY
*.
Allegation after Allegation Says So . . .http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bd-1SzPq37w
*.
Allegation after Allegation Says It Just Might
Be So . . .http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bPwH8_piaA
*.
The Truth is the Truth so it just may be . . . Truehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=redxWMNMS0U
*.
Larry Sinclair Talks About The ObamaSexual©
at the National Press Club Interviewhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6w4Dl8QcY0
---but... Larry Sinclair Failed the Lie-Detector Testhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hc8Ys8iXTiU
--- Another Look Rense & Tarpley on Larry Sinclairhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6sy61ASW6k&NR=1
*.
billy burpelson - what comes around goes around
-and- payback is a b-i-t-c-h ~ RHF
*.
*.

I just noticed, someone just couldn't keep it in this
group...lol...had to throw it over to four other newsgroups. I
wouldn't have thrown up the Obama is gay thing, but the poster did
throw out the unproven (because it's not true) Chaney/Bush thing.

It is very interesting, the people seem to be telling the truth and
providing things that would be hard to just make up. Where I would
think it is more than likely the truth is because the media "barely"
and I mean barely touched on these allegations and just completely
stopped on it.

Michael W. Bryant, the obese dufus who once claimed to have a PhD, wrote:

On Mar 15, 8:30 pm, Bushcraftgregg wrote:


Grammarian usually has little to contribute to a discussion and
possesses few effective weapons. To compensate, he will point out
minor errors in spelling and grammar. Because of Grammarian's obvious
weakness most Warriors ignore him.


I expect you to remind dxAss next time he corrects a typo. That's what
made catching Steve's typo so "special," he's ususally the one doimg
it....

'doimg' it? Way to go PhDufus!

By the way, I've never claimed, nor lied about being perfect with the English
language.

You, on the other hand, lied about having a PhD!

LMFAO

On Mar 14, 6:04*am, Mike wrote:
On Mar 14, 2:26 am, "~ RHF" wrote:



On Mar 13, 4:41 am, BCBlazysusan wrote:

Before I start, I hope this doesn't turn into another knock down
insult everyone thread because that isn't what I want.

I have heard about the new video by Alex Jones called "The Obama
Deception." And before everyone starts typing their insults, the video
isn't just a tear down on Obama, which I was somewhat surprised.

MUCH of it also centers around former president Bush, I'll tell you,
the one thing I like about Alex is all he does is gather the
information. He even tells people on his show and I think also on this
video to "not just believe him".....to actually take the info that he
stated and google it. When it comes to all these presidential things
and bills and laws that are signed under the cloak of darkness and no
one even really knows what their about, you can look them up yourself..
I will say this much, every time Alex has mentioned something on his
show or on his website....I always checked it out, and he hasn't
bullcrapped once.

The video is 1hr 53 minutes long but it is well worth the time for the
amount of information and knowledge and facts that can't be disputed
that you will obtain. One thing I think within twenty minutes...it is
when they are talking to the former governor Jesse Ventura. Call me
crazy but I always thought and believed in the "democrats vs.
republicans"....and so did/does everyone else in here because we all
have jumped into or started threads on Bush or Obama or Dems or
Republicans. Jesse says "it is like professional wrestling"....it is
all staged...it is an act...lol. Remember back right before the
election and a few jumped on me when I said I believed that "if voting
'truly' made a difference, the government would outlaw it." Well, I
thought I was right in saying that and I was.

It isn't about Democrats and Republicans or Bush/Clinton or even
Obama, that is what they want everyone to think. Please try to not
respond if you haven't watched it and just start bickering. I'd really
like to know what SC/Telamon/RHF/Brenda Ann/Ace/BDK even Mike if he
can be halfway decent (only if you watched it) and everyone else in
here says but you can't really respond to a post about a video if you
never watched it. Trust me when I say it isn't just a tear down on
Obama himself. The majority of us in here are Americans (I think) and
even I have been guilty of ripping on Obama and the democrats, I will
look at it all a lot different from now on. Out of all us Americans in
here I think Brenda Ann may be the smartest one for not actually
living in the states. ;-) It's going to get bad guys, really bad,
worse than anything most of us have experienced. If I didn't name your
name I apologize, I can't remember everyones off the top of my head
but I am really curious as to what you all think AFTER you watch the
video. It should make for some good OT discussion.:-) I wonder if it
can be civil and if not who is going to be the one that starts the
crap. Just go to youtube or google video and type in "Obama
Deception"...on youtube it comes in twelve parts and to me it was
easier just to watch them all together in one shot on google video.
Looking forward to the responses.

Fear of ObamaNomics Destroyed to Valve of
100 Million American's Individual Retirement
Savings Accounts (IRAs, 401Ks & Roths)

1 - The Democrats Hate the Individual Freedom of
American's Individual Retirement Savings Accounts.
and have planned to destroy them for years.

2 - The Democrats want to force All Americans to
rely only on Social Security and become Totally
Dependent on the US Government for Support
giving the US Government {Democrats} complete
Control over Individual Americans Financial Freedom.

Until the pending Economic Collapse of the US
Treasury due to the Foreign Capital Pull-out :
Buy and Hold bankers boxes of 100CNY Chinese
Notes or open-up a Chinese Bank Account in
China Yuan {Renminbi} not US Dollars; along
with buying and holding Gold and Silver.

Within a year maybe three at most the US Dollar
will be worth 5 to 10 Cents and the Yuan will be
on Parity {equal} with the Dollar meaning a 600%
to 700% Gain in the Yuan Bank Account Holdings.
The Gold and Silver will show roughly an Equal
Gain against the US Dollar too.

The Euro will be BUST as well as the EU.

On the good side Foreign Goods and Services
will be too costly for Americans to buy with a
100 {old} US Dollar Chinese made Celphone
costing 500 {new} US Dollars at Wal*Mart.
Over the next Decade Jobs will becoming back
to America in Factories Owned and Operated
by Foreign Investors and Made-in-American
will be the good 'cheaper' Products on the Shelf.

Many most Illegal Mexican Invaders will be
going back to Mexico as living there 'poor'
will be easier than living in the USA 'poor'.

it's a 'vision' thingee ~ RHF
.
.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

RHf,

So Obama laid his economic vision to Congress on Tuesday and the
market went up the last four days. I think you are ignoring REALITY
when you claim that every time Obama opens his mouth the market goes
lower.


mwb - praise be the obama,
Mwb - Praise Be The Obama.
MWB - PRAISE BE THE OBAMA !

The US Stock Market When Up Again Today
Due To His Great Leadership : Cause He stayed
in the White House and Said and Did Nothing ;;-}

~ RHF

Charlie wrote:


Alric, there is plenty enough of blame to go around everywhere. My
point is I guess we're still in dire times and will be for a few more
years. It's going to take a long time before we are economically safe
as a country. For Obama to say we're making progress is kind of
disingenuous to me. We're not....that's not to say we can't sooner
than what was originally predicted. I hope Obama succeeds with his
middle of the road policies but fails in those that over tax us and
create more government in our lives....we certainly don't need any
more government in our lives. Don't always be so quick to think
conservatives want Obama to fail, I look at it as wanting his
socialist policies to fail and not those that both parties come
together for the betterment of the American people....maybe that's a
pie in the sky attitude but I have kids that are married and I
certainly want our economy to be strong for them no matter who is in
power.

Speaking of disingenuous, I think it's disingenuous to blame Obama for a
mess he was left, then blame the continuing decline of the stock market
on his policies. I just saw that the stock market rose five days in a
row. Now, I know that's all about something else, and I'm going to
watch Fox News to see how they're going to spin it to downplay the
events. I don't believe it means much, but just a few days ago, your
side -- and you definitely have a side -- were putting the tombstone on
Obama's political grave.

As for this other conservative cliches about too much government in your
life, what would Obama be doing that would put more government in your
life? Other people are already too much in your life, in that you have
insurance companies taking your money, then still further demanding a
co-pay while dictating what they will and will not cover. Plus
employers, law enforcement, and so on. It's disingenuous of you to fall
back on such a thin argument, that you object to Obama's "socialism" --
a favored right-wing trigger word (which is miraculously losing it's
powerr) -- on the grounds that it'll put too much government in your
life. How?
--
__________________________________________________ __
Alric Knebel

On Mar 16, 3:46*am, Alric Knebel wrote:
~ RHF wrote:
On Mar 14, 6:04 am, Mike wrote:
On Mar 14, 2:26 am, "~ RHF" wrote:

On Mar 13, 4:41 am, BCBlazysusan wrote:
Before I start, I hope this doesn't turn into another knock down
insult everyone thread because that isn't what I want.
I have heard about the new video by Alex Jones called "The Obama
Deception." And before everyone starts typing their insults, the video
isn't just a tear down on Obama, which I was somewhat surprised.
MUCH of it also centers around former president Bush, I'll tell you,
the one thing I like about Alex is all he does is gather the
information. He even tells people on his show and I think also on this
video to "not just believe him".....to actually take the info that he
stated and google it. When it comes to all these presidential things
and bills and laws that are signed under the cloak of darkness and no
one even really knows what their about, you can look them up yourself.
I will say this much, every time Alex has mentioned something on his
show or on his website....I always checked it out, and he hasn't
bullcrapped once.
The video is 1hr 53 minutes long but it is well worth the time for the
amount of information and knowledge and facts that can't be disputed
that you will obtain. One thing I think within twenty minutes...it is
when they are talking to the former governor Jesse Ventura. Call me
crazy but I always thought and believed in the "democrats vs.
republicans"....and so did/does everyone else in here because we all
have jumped into or started threads on Bush or Obama or Dems or
Republicans. Jesse says "it is like professional wrestling"....it is
all staged...it is an act...lol. Remember back right before the
election and a few jumped on me when I said I believed that "if voting
'truly' made a difference, the government would outlaw it." Well, I
thought I was right in saying that and I was.
It isn't about Democrats and Republicans or Bush/Clinton or even
Obama, that is what they want everyone to think. Please try to not
respond if you haven't watched it and just start bickering. I'd really
like to know what SC/Telamon/RHF/Brenda Ann/Ace/BDK even Mike if he
can be halfway decent (only if you watched it) and everyone else in
here says but you can't really respond to a post about a video if you
never watched it. Trust me when I say it isn't just a tear down on
Obama himself. The majority of us in here are Americans (I think) and
even I have been guilty of ripping on Obama and the democrats, I will
look at it all a lot different from now on. Out of all us Americans in
here I think Brenda Ann may be the smartest one for not actually
living in the states. ;-) It's going to get bad guys, really bad,
worse than anything most of us have experienced. If I didn't name your
name I apologize, I can't remember everyones off the top of my head
but I am really curious as to what you all think AFTER you watch the
video. It should make for some good OT discussion.:-) I wonder if it
can be civil and if not who is going to be the one that starts the
crap. Just go to youtube or google video and type in "Obama
Deception"...on youtube it comes in twelve parts and to me it was
easier just to watch them all together in one shot on google video.
Looking forward to the responses.
Fear of ObamaNomics Destroyed to Valve of
100 Million American's Individual Retirement
Savings Accounts (IRAs, 401Ks & Roths)
1 - The Democrats Hate the Individual Freedom of
American's Individual Retirement Savings Accounts.
and have planned to destroy them for years.
2 - The Democrats want to force All Americans to
rely only on Social Security and become Totally
Dependent on the US Government for Support
giving the US Government {Democrats} complete
Control over Individual Americans Financial Freedom.
Until the pending Economic Collapse of the US
Treasury due to the Foreign Capital Pull-out :
Buy and Hold bankers boxes of 100CNY Chinese
Notes or open-up a Chinese Bank Account in
China Yuan {Renminbi} not US Dollars; along
with buying and holding Gold and Silver.
Within a year maybe three at most the US Dollar
will be worth 5 to 10 Cents and the Yuan will be
on Parity {equal} with the Dollar meaning a 600%
to 700% Gain in the Yuan Bank Account Holdings.
The Gold and Silver will show roughly an Equal
Gain against the US Dollar too.
The Euro will be BUST as well as the EU.
On the good side Foreign Goods and Services
will be too costly for Americans to buy with a
100 {old} US Dollar Chinese made Celphone
costing 500 {new} US Dollars at Wal*Mart.
Over the next Decade Jobs will becoming back
to America in Factories Owned and Operated
by Foreign Investors and Made-in-American
will be the good 'cheaper' Products on the Shelf.
Many most Illegal Mexican Invaders will be
going back to Mexico as living there 'poor'
will be easier than living in the USA 'poor'.
it's a 'vision' thingee ~ RHF
.
.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
RHf,

So Obama laid his economic vision to Congress on Tuesday and the
market went up the last four days. I think you are ignoring REALITY
when you claim that every time Obama opens his mouth the market goes
lower.

mwb - praise be the obama,
Mwb - Praise Be The Obama.
MWB - PRAISE BE THE OBAMA !

The US Stock Market When Up Again Today
Due To His Great Leadership : Cause He stayed
in the White House and Said and Did Nothing ;;-}

Well, a few days ago, these right-wing turds -- and I count you among
them -- were gleefully rubbing their hands together because Obama's
stimulus package had passed, and then the stock market went into
decline. *I myself knew that the two events were in no way connected,
but you've got that little gaggle of dummies -- Valleley, Pookie, et al
-- who love making it Obama's fault. *I saw the stock market rose for a
couple of days, and I wondered what the little gaggle would honk about
after that. *Would they suddenly shut up, and in single file, goose-step
along as if nothing happened?

So, what is it? *Did his policies cause the decline, but not the rise in
stock prices? *You've got to make up your mind, because ya look kinda
foolish.

Maybe you don't have a mind to make up, so you make up connections
between events that don't exist.

--
__________________________________________________ __
Alric Knebel- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

What I have been trying to say, it doesn't matter who is in there. The
former governor himself who got out of it (Jesse Ventura) said "it is
like professional wrestling, it is all staged, it's an act, they're
all friend who go out to dinner with each other." I think it has got
to the point that it can't be reversed. Greed and Money. The downfall
of the USA.:-(

Bushcraftgregg wrote:
On Mar 16, 3:46 am, Alric Knebel wrote:
~ RHF wrote:
On Mar 14, 6:04 am, Mike wrote:
On Mar 14, 2:26 am, "~ RHF" wrote:
On Mar 13, 4:41 am, BCBlazysusan wrote:
Before I start, I hope this doesn't turn into another knock down
insult everyone thread because that isn't what I want.
I have heard about the new video by Alex Jones called "The Obama
Deception." And before everyone starts typing their insults, the video
isn't just a tear down on Obama, which I was somewhat surprised.
MUCH of it also centers around former president Bush, I'll tell you,
the one thing I like about Alex is all he does is gather the
information. He even tells people on his show and I think also on this
video to "not just believe him".....to actually take the info that he
stated and google it. When it comes to all these presidential things
and bills and laws that are signed under the cloak of darkness and no
one even really knows what their about, you can look them up yourself.
I will say this much, every time Alex has mentioned something on his
show or on his website....I always checked it out, and he hasn't
bullcrapped once.
The video is 1hr 53 minutes long but it is well worth the time for the
amount of information and knowledge and facts that can't be disputed
that you will obtain. One thing I think within twenty minutes...it is
when they are talking to the former governor Jesse Ventura. Call me
crazy but I always thought and believed in the "democrats vs.
republicans"....and so did/does everyone else in here because we all
have jumped into or started threads on Bush or Obama or Dems or
Republicans. Jesse says "it is like professional wrestling"....it is
all staged...it is an act...lol. Remember back right before the
election and a few jumped on me when I said I believed that "if voting
'truly' made a difference, the government would outlaw it." Well, I
thought I was right in saying that and I was.
It isn't about Democrats and Republicans or Bush/Clinton or even
Obama, that is what they want everyone to think. Please try to not
respond if you haven't watched it and just start bickering. I'd really
like to know what SC/Telamon/RHF/Brenda Ann/Ace/BDK even Mike if he
can be halfway decent (only if you watched it) and everyone else in
here says but you can't really respond to a post about a video if you
never watched it. Trust me when I say it isn't just a tear down on
Obama himself. The majority of us in here are Americans (I think) and
even I have been guilty of ripping on Obama and the democrats, I will
look at it all a lot different from now on. Out of all us Americans in
here I think Brenda Ann may be the smartest one for not actually
living in the states. ;-) It's going to get bad guys, really bad,
worse than anything most of us have experienced. If I didn't name your
name I apologize, I can't remember everyones off the top of my head
but I am really curious as to what you all think AFTER you watch the
video. It should make for some good OT discussion.:-) I wonder if it
can be civil and if not who is going to be the one that starts the
crap. Just go to youtube or google video and type in "Obama
Deception"...on youtube it comes in twelve parts and to me it was
easier just to watch them all together in one shot on google video.
Looking forward to the responses.
Fear of ObamaNomics Destroyed to Valve of
100 Million American's Individual Retirement
Savings Accounts (IRAs, 401Ks & Roths)
1 - The Democrats Hate the Individual Freedom of
American's Individual Retirement Savings Accounts.
and have planned to destroy them for years.
2 - The Democrats want to force All Americans to
rely only on Social Security and become Totally
Dependent on the US Government for Support
giving the US Government {Democrats} complete
Control over Individual Americans Financial Freedom.
Until the pending Economic Collapse of the US
Treasury due to the Foreign Capital Pull-out :
Buy and Hold bankers boxes of 100CNY Chinese
Notes or open-up a Chinese Bank Account in
China Yuan {Renminbi} not US Dollars; along
with buying and holding Gold and Silver.
Within a year maybe three at most the US Dollar
will be worth 5 to 10 Cents and the Yuan will be
on Parity {equal} with the Dollar meaning a 600%
to 700% Gain in the Yuan Bank Account Holdings.
The Gold and Silver will show roughly an Equal
Gain against the US Dollar too.
The Euro will be BUST as well as the EU.
On the good side Foreign Goods and Services
will be too costly for Americans to buy with a
100 {old} US Dollar Chinese made Celphone
costing 500 {new} US Dollars at Wal*Mart.
Over the next Decade Jobs will becoming back
to America in Factories Owned and Operated
by Foreign Investors and Made-in-American
will be the good 'cheaper' Products on the Shelf.
Many most Illegal Mexican Invaders will be
going back to Mexico as living there 'poor'
will be easier than living in the USA 'poor'.
it's a 'vision' thingee ~ RHF
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RHf,
So Obama laid his economic vision to Congress on Tuesday and the
market went up the last four days. I think you are ignoring REALITY
when you claim that every time Obama opens his mouth the market goes
lower.
mwb - praise be the obama,
Mwb - Praise Be The Obama.
MWB - PRAISE BE THE OBAMA !
The US Stock Market When Up Again Today
Due To His Great Leadership : Cause He stayed
in the White House and Said and Did Nothing ;;-}
Well, a few days ago, these right-wing turds -- and I count you among
them -- were gleefully rubbing their hands together because Obama's
stimulus package had passed, and then the stock market went into
decline. I myself knew that the two events were in no way connected,
but you've got that little gaggle of dummies -- Valleley, Pookie, et al
-- who love making it Obama's fault. I saw the stock market rose for a
couple of days, and I wondered what the little gaggle would honk about
after that. Would they suddenly shut up, and in single file, goose-step
along as if nothing happened?

So, what is it? Did his policies cause the decline, but not the rise in
stock prices? You've got to make up your mind, because ya look kinda
foolish.

Maybe you don't have a mind to make up, so you make up connections
between events that don't exist.

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What I have been trying to say, it doesn't matter who is in there. The
former governor himself who got out of it (Jesse Ventura) said "it is
like professional wrestling, it is all staged, it's an act, they're
all friend who go out to dinner with each other." I think it has got
to the point that it can't be reversed. Greed and Money. The downfall
of the USA.:-(

I'm pretty much thinking that myself. I'm hoping I'll see something
like integrity returned to the system.


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On Mar 16, 3:32*pm, Alric Knebel wrote:
Charlie wrote:

Alric, there is plenty enough of blame to go around everywhere. *My
point is I guess we're still in dire times and will be for a few more
years. *It's going to take a long time before we are economically safe
as a country. *For Obama to say we're making progress is kind of
disingenuous to me. *We're not....that's not to say we can't sooner
than what was originally predicted. *I hope Obama succeeds with his
middle of the road policies but fails in those that over tax us and
create more government in our lives....we certainly don't need any
more government in our lives. *Don't always be so quick to think
conservatives want Obama to fail, I look at it as wanting his
socialist policies to fail and not those that both parties come
together for the betterment of the American people....maybe that's a
pie in the sky attitude but I have kids that are married and I
certainly want our economy to be strong for them no matter who is in
power.

Speaking of disingenuous, I think it's disingenuous to blame Obama for a
mess he was left, then blame the continuing decline of the stock market
on his policies. *I just saw that the stock market rose five days in a
row. *Now, I know that's all about something else, and I'm going to
watch Fox News to see how they're going to spin it to downplay the
events. *I don't believe it means much, but just a few days ago, your
side -- and you definitely have a side -- were putting the tombstone on
Obama's political grave.

As for this other conservative cliches about too much government in your
life, what would Obama be doing that would put more government in your
life? *Other people are already too much in your life, in that you have
insurance companies taking your money, then still further demanding a
co-pay while dictating what they will and will not cover. *Plus
employers, law enforcement, and so on. *It's disingenuous of you to fall
back on such a thin argument, that you object to Obama's "socialism" --
a favored right-wing trigger word (which is miraculously losing it's
powerr) -- on the grounds that it'll put too much government in your
life. *How?
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Obama is the man in office now so the buck stops with him. You sadly
are brainwashed by the leftist rhetoric that you absorb on a daily
basis. That's my opinion and I could be wrong but it's how I view
it. Many on the left embrace that ideology because of being
brainwashed that only liberals have compassion. How sad.