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Freedom to Choose
m II wrote:
Day Brown wrote: And ignorant to boot. The treaty of Tripoli, signed by President John Adams, and ratified by 100% of the US senate says "The United States is not a Christian nation." How did we become one? You haven't. Judging by the invasions, torture chambers and death camps, I'd say you are the farthest removed thing from Christianity. Who getsta define the term? From what Gibbon has to say, hypocrisy characterized the church even from the days of the martyrs. For example, Commodus, of all people, hadda call out the legions to stop the followers of Bishops Athenasius and Arian from butchering each other in the streets of Carthage. Each was utterly convinced the other had the definition wrong. Then, too, when Polemus circulated his criticism of well known pagan prophets and clerics, people were just appalled. Only the Christians did that sort of thing. Hence we have "polemic". Would you care to outline for us who the true Christians are? |
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Day Brown wrote: m II wrote: Day Brown wrote: And ignorant to boot. The treaty of Tripoli, signed by President John Adams, and ratified by 100% of the US senate says "The United States is not a Christian nation." How did we become one? You haven't. Judging by the invasions, torture chambers and death camps, I'd say you are the farthest removed thing from Christianity. Who getsta define the term? From what Gibbon has to say, hypocrisy characterized the church even from the days of the martyrs. For example, Commodus, of all people, hadda call out the legions to stop the followers of Bishops Athenasius and Arian from butchering each other in the streets of Carthage. Each was utterly convinced the other had the definition wrong. Then, too, when Polemus circulated his criticism of well known pagan prophets and clerics, people were just appalled. Only the Christians did that sort of thing. Hence we have "polemic". Would you care to outline for us who the true Christians are? Well, for sure, they are not the dufi who claim to have PhD's when they really don't! Those who do, and don't, suck Obama's dick in their dreams! F00kin dufi! |
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On Mar 20, 6:37*pm, "Clave"
wrote: Medicine is practiced for the benefit of the patient, not the practicioner. |
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... On Mar 20, 6:37 pm, "Clave" wrote: Medicine is practiced for the benefit of the patient, not the practicioner. If the "professionals" don't have the "conscience" for the job, there's always work at the Post Office. http://mises.org/books/TRTS/ I don't blindly click links in Usenet posts. If you have a point, make it. Jim |
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You ought to see how the Sweet Potato Queens choose.
Earlier today I went down town to check out the Saint Patrick's Day Parade.It is the third largest in America, next to Chicago and New York City.The Sweet Potato Queens were there.There are some people there who come from all around the World to the parade.The parade gets larger every year. http://jackson.metromix.com/events/a...972057/content www.sweetpotatoqueens.com cuhulin |
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On Mar 20, 8:34*pm, Drafterman wrote:
On Mar 20, 7:14*pm, wrote: I find it curious that, when it comes to the “pro-choice” crowd, the choice is actually quite limited. Those offering alternatives to abortion are branded as religious fanatics and even as dangerous. Pregnancy resource centers which provide options other than abortion are labeled as “fake clinics.” Now, there’s even a move to eliminate the choices of medical professionals when it comes to performing abortions. I'm sorry. This seems a bit over my head. Can you show me a breakdown of how the pro-life crowd offers more choices than the pro-choice crowd? If you doubt this, witness the effort by the Obama Administration to get rid of a Health and Human Services rule that ensures the conscience rights of medical professionals as far as abortion is concerned. Because it's stupid. It'd be like Netflix refusing to send me a movie because they object to it. I'm paying for the service, ergo they are legally obligated to provide me the service. This isn't some fast-food joint where they retain the right to refuse service. I'm *already* paying for it. In fact, I'm paying for it whether I use it or not. So, on top of having to pay for it, whether I use it or not, you are suggesting that they have the option of simply refusing to give me service? As one doctor concerned about the situation noted, if physicians have no conscience rights, no one is safe from forced abortions, government- sanctioned euthanasia, and other actions hostile to life. The right to die becomes the duty to die; the right to abort becomes the requirement to abort. And the culture of our nation suffers in the process. Wow. This is perhaps the most poorly constructed slippery slope argument I've ever seen. Forced abortions, euthanasia, and the such are issues regarding PATIENT rights which is the primary concern. Nothing here suggests that ensuring that patients receive the service they are due will somehow, magically turn into forced abortions. You do realize that simply stringing a series of events together does not, somehow, make it a probable, possible, or even logical argument, right? There has to be SOME thought put into it. Fortunately, there is an opportunity for ordinary citizens to fight back against this latest instance of government intrusion. The American Association of Pro-Life OB/GYNs is asking taxpayers to make their voices heard on this issue. If you visit the websitewww.freedom2care.org, you can send a message to the Department of Health and Human Services, registering your complaint as either a patient or a health care professional. You can note how you want your doctor to be free to follow principles such as the Hippocratic Oath, the Nuremberg Code, and general moral standards. Medical professionals can point out how they do not want government to restrict their freedom to practice medicine by forcing them to violate ethical standards of care. What if I want my doctor to not have the option of arbitrarily denying me service based on nothing more than an emotional state? At this time of government takeovers, a morally bankrupt government takeover of the health care industry is appalling. We can be thankful that the Freedom2Care Coalition is standing up to this over-reaching power grab by the federal government. As the coalition states, its mission is “to protect and advance the free exercise of conscience rights in health care, thereby protecting patients and upholding American ideals and law.” Far from being a noble gesture of protecting innocent people from a (nonexistent) threat it's rather a defensive reaction against what they perceive a threat to their own goals. One’s conscience should be considered sacred. It’s that little voice inside, placed there by the Almighty, which enables us to distinguish between right and wrong. Despite 36 years of attempted brainwashing, there are doctors today who realize that abortion violates that voice within. Let’s do our part to support these caring medical professionals who are willing to confront the pro-abortion political machine. Go towww.freedom2care.organdgive voice to your convictions today. http://townhall.com/Columnists/Natha...edom_to_choose If you are in a job that may take you places where your conscience doesn't want to go it isn't the responsibility for the rest of the world to bend over backwards so you can still get a paycheck while getting out of work. If I went into work tomorrow and told them that I was going to arbitrarily decide which tasks I will and will not do simply based upon how I'm feeling that day my ass would (rightfully) be kicked to the curb. You see, people generally don't like it when they pay you for a service and you tell them to (figurative) go eff themselves. Oh, and the government of the United States does not legally recognize any deity, ergo it should not, ever, be the basis for any form of legislation. You are a full of sheeit! |
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Now fed govt has killed off the Recreational Vehicles Industry in
America.fed govt SUCKS!!! www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29801804 cuhulin |
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(OT) : ObamaCare© Medicine-by-Bureaucracy -was- Freedom to Choose
On Mar 20, 4:37*pm, "Clave"
wrote: wrote in message ... ... If you doubt this, witness the effort by the Obama Administration to get rid of a Health and Human Services rule that ensures the conscience rights of medical professionals as far as abortion is concerned... What whiny-ass titty-baby horse****. - Medicine is practiced for the benefit of the patient, not the practicioner. Medicine is Practiced by the Practicioner. .... and patients come to the Practitioner for h-e-l-p. - If the "professionals" don't have the "conscience" - for the job, there's always work at the Post Office. - - Jim Jim - So Take Your Own Advise . . . and go to the Post Office for your next 'operation' --- after all they give free stamps with every organ replacement ~ RHF |
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(OT) : Who Are The Christians -was- Without the Freedom to Choose
On Mar 21, 2:54*pm, Day Brown wrote:
m II wrote: Day Brown wrote: And ignorant to boot. The treaty of Tripoli, signed by President John Adams, and ratified by 100% of the US senate says "The United States is not a Christian nation." How did we become one? You haven't. Judging by the invasions, torture chambers and death camps, I'd say you are the farthest removed thing from Christianity. Who getsta define the term? From what Gibbon has to say, hypocrisy characterized the church even from the days of the martyrs. For example, Commodus, of all people, hadda call out the legions to stop the followers of Bishops Athenasius and Arian from butchering each other in the streets of Carthage. Each was utterly convinced the other had the definition wrong. Then, too, when Polemus circulated his criticism of well known pagan prophets and clerics, people were just appalled. Only the Christians did that sort of thing. Hence we have "polemic". - Would you care to outline for us who the true Christians are? Dear Lord God {Father} . . . I Know That I am A Sinner . . . In Jesus' Name I Pray --- Amen http://www.sinner-prayer.com/ http://www.gotquestions.org/sinners-prayer.html -but- The ObamaSpeakers© will be glad to tell you who are the 'true' Christians according to Karl Marx. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Marx |
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