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May 16th 09, 07:49 AM
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(OT) : Paying For A National "Universal" Health Care System -via-A Universal Flat 15% Payroll, Earnings and Contract Tax {Everybody Pays}
On May 15, 2:22*am, "~ RHF" wrote:
On May 14, 11:11*pm, SeaWoe wrote: On May 13, 11:37*pm, "~ RHF" wrote: On May 13, 4:50*pm, SeaWoe wrote: On May 13, 3:15*pm, "~ RHF" wrote: On May 13, 1:03*pm, "MNMikeW" wrote: "Mike" wrote in message ... - More will have coverage than do now. - Remember right now, the estimate is that - 40 million have no coverage at all. - That's the ultimate denial of treatment. MN Mike, No the Un-Covered go to any Hospital Emergency Room and Get Treatment at the Taxpayers Expense. Somebody {You and I} Else Pays For The Un-Covered Because They Do Not Pay Their Fair Share. One of the Key {Cost Containment} Features of any National "Universal" Health Care System is Prevention and Early Treatment in Public Clinics and Doctor's Offices -versus- Costly Late Treatment in a Hospital's Emergency Room and Hospitalization. Health Care Costs are about 15% of the US GDP and a Universal Flat 15% Payroll, Earnings and Contract Tax* would be Required to Pay for a any National "Universal" Health Care System. THAT'S THE REALITY ! * Note - That is 15% Above and Beyond the Federal and State Income Taxes you are already Paying. *. Universal Health Care It's As Simple As 1-2-3http://groups.google..com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/dde71b44cb7f7488 National 'Universal' Health Care System {Remember It's Socialism} *. Getting More Doctors and Nurses for a True "Universal" Health Care Systemhttp://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/956227cb65e0d445 "IF" Health Care Is A Human Right : Then Health Care Must Be Universal For All : Therefore Health Care Must Be Socialized and All Health Care Workers Public Employees. *. universal health care it's as simple as 1-2-3 ~ RHF *. *. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------***---- And of these 40 million, how many do you suppose are uninsured INTENTIONALLY? You remove the 10 million "non-citizens" and 17 million who chose to go without it's quite a bit smaller. http://www.businessandmedia.org/prin....aspx-Hide...- - Show quoted text - - For a large part of my life I used employer-paid - health care. That meant that our product / service - was undercut by one from a nation that had an NHS. 1 - IF the Employer/Employee Pays for the Employer Provided Health Care that that Cost is Factored into the Cost of that Employer's Products and Services. 2 - IF the Employer/Employee Pays Taxes for the Government Provided Health Care that that Cost is Factored into the Cost of that Employer's Products and Services. One and two are about Equal in Increasing the Cost of Production and the End Cost of the Goods and Services. Plus One and Two Make Domestic Goods and Services Cost More than those Imported Goods Not Subject to those Domestic Costs. A National Sales Tax on All Goods and Services that is Imposed on Both Domestic and Imported Goods Levels the Playing Field {Equalizes} for All Goods and Services and does not Penalize Domestic Goods and Services. A National Sales Tax System over the Long Term helps to Increase Domestic Employment and Reduce Imports over an Employer Wage Based Income Tax System. 90% of US Citizens and Residents both Legal and Illegal should be Paying their State and Federal Taxes via Consumer Sales Taxes : Instead of Wage Income Taxes. *The 'Other' 10% should in addition be Paying a Flat Wage Income Tax Equal to the Sales Tax on Incomes that are greater than 5 Times the National Income Average {$50K} -say- $250K. The Simple Facts is that the USA is no longer an International Producer -aka- Exporting Nation The USA is now an International Consumer -aka- Importing Nation -and- Consumer Nations Benefit Most from aSales Tax System versus a Wage Income Tax System. ~ RHF *. I was in the Navy and earner a pensin and medical care TFL. I lived in GB for years, using their NHS. Back in the states, I was on TFL for a couple of years before they shifted me over to whatever SS calls their plan. Were I running the world, we would all have something like the British NHS or TFL. (I understand that the French NHS is even better) NO insurance companies involved means doing away with a whole arm of financial paperwork and being able to devote the saved cash to medicines, instead. The saved space from the bean=counters would mean being able to hold more beds, too, I guess. My late wife was a medical secretary, so she would be needed, but the accointants - most of them - could take a hike!- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - - I agree with a National Sales Tax or VAT, - or whatever term is selected. - I didn't mind paying it as I knew it was going - to help me in one way or another. -*via the pool it entered. Canada & The EU & Japan : Do the National Sales Tax Thingee To There Benefit -IF- The USA is to have a Level Global Playing Field for US Products : Then the USA also must have a National Sales Tax System to be on an Equal Tax Footing with the 'other' Producing Nations. *. The End-Result is that the US Government still Collects the Same Amount of Total Taxes -but- From More People Cause Everyone Pays Equally Their Fair Share and American Products are Priced More Competitively -wrt- Imported Products within the USA and have an Equalized Pricing in the Global Marketplace. Thus Creating More Jobs for American Workers. *. However beyond 5-Times the National Average Wage-Income {$50K} at about $250K Higher Wage-Income Earners and Receivers Do Not Pay Their "Fair-Share" of Taxes -so- There is a PLUS to any National Sales Tax System a Flat Wage Income Tax Equal to the Sales Tax. *. Getting More Doctors and Nurses for a True "Universal" Health Care Systemhttp://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/956227cb65e0d445 "IF" Health Care Is A Human Right : Then Health Care Must Be Universal For All : Therefore Health Care Must Be Socialized and All Health Care Workers Public Employees. *. Universal Health Care -means- Universal Health Care Insurance -aka- Everybody Payshttp://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/56b0e08cc98891d9 *. Paying For A National "Universal" Health Care System -via- A Universal Flat 15% Payroll, Earnings and Contract Tax {Everybody Pays}http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...76440217d9f07f *. Universal Health Care It's As Simple As 1-2-3http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/dde71b44cb7f7488 National 'Universal' Health Care System {Remember It's Socialism} *. universal health care it's as simple as 1-2-3 ~ RHF *. *.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - There is somethig screwey withy your shift key. 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