I was actually toying with the idea but decided to spend the morning
reading, so I missed listening on what turned out to be a big news day
for North Korea.

Not that it may have made any difference -- I just finished listening
to today's 1500 UTC broadcast (comes in good and strong here in the
Pacific Northwest on 9335 kHz), and the only mention of nuclear
weaponry at all was in a propaganda piece that claimed their army was
(amongst other things) "stronger than an atomic bomb".

It all makes one suspect domestic considerations (i.e. desire to
impress the "Great Leader") instead of foreign ones might have been
behind the recent nuclear test. We're talking about what is probably
the world's most isolated and inward-looking country, after all.

Did anyone happen to catch yesterday's broadcast? Did they make any
mention of the test on it?

--
David Barts
Portland, OR

In article
,
wrote:

I was actually toying with the idea but decided to spend the morning
reading, so I missed listening on what turned out to be a big news day
for North Korea.

Not that it may have made any difference -- I just finished listening
to today's 1500 UTC broadcast (comes in good and strong here in the
Pacific Northwest on 9335 kHz), and the only mention of nuclear
weaponry at all was in a propaganda piece that claimed their army was
(amongst other things) "stronger than an atomic bomb".

It all makes one suspect domestic considerations (i.e. desire to
impress the "Great Leader") instead of foreign ones might have been
behind the recent nuclear test. We're talking about what is probably
the world's most isolated and inward-looking country, after all.

Did anyone happen to catch yesterday's broadcast? Did they make any
mention of the test on it?

I did not. I'll give them a shot sometime today. In the past I was only
able to listen for so long before I had to turn them off.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

On May 26, 12:09*pm, wrote:
I was actually toying with the idea but decided to spend the morning
reading, so I missed listening on what turned out to be a big news day
for North Korea.

Not that it may have made any difference -- I just finished listening
to today's 1500 UTC broadcast (comes in good and strong here in the
Pacific Northwest on 9335 kHz), and the only mention of nuclear
weaponry at all was in a propaganda piece that claimed their army was
(amongst other things) "stronger than an atomic bomb".

It all makes one suspect domestic considerations (i.e. desire to
impress the "Great Leader") instead of foreign ones might have been
behind the recent nuclear test. We're talking about what is probably
the world's most isolated and inward-looking country, after all.

Did anyone happen to catch yesterday's broadcast? Did they make any
mention of the test on it?

--
David Barts
Portland, OR

any idea how to hear this broadcast online?

wrote in message
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On May 27, 9:44 am, wrote:

any idea how to hear this broadcast online?

I don't think there is one.

We're talking about what is probably the most closed society on the
face of the earth right now. I believe there is no internet service in
the entire country (with the exception of satellite links in foreign
embassies). The government doesn't trust even its most loyal
apparatchiks with exposure to an outside world that might
"contaminate" their world-view.

There is indeed internet in the DPRK. It is, however, tightly controlled,
almost exclusively accessed in their equivalent of the "PC Bang" (PC room),
with a state chaperone standing there watching over everyone's shoulders.
Limited e-mail access between family members with family in the south, etc.

It's indeed a very closed society, but not so much as you may be lead to
believe. Several ROK businesses have manufacturing facilities in the DPRK (a
pilot program in a city just north of the border). People being people, one
can be certain that the employees there do talk about things they see and
hear..

One interesting thing to look at: The ROK still (even though they SAID they
stopped years ago) jams several DPRK MW stations. Gotta wonder about that
one. I don't hear any jamming coming the other direction (of course, that
could be because the main KBS MW outlets are running in excess of 1.5MW
daytime and 750KW night....)

On Thu, 28 May 2009 06:19:39 +0900, "Brenda Ann"
wrote:

wrote in message
...
On May 27, 9:44 am, wrote:

any idea how to hear this broadcast online?

I don't think there is one.

We're talking about what is probably the most closed society on the
face of the earth right now. I believe there is no internet service in
the entire country (with the exception of satellite links in foreign
embassies). The government doesn't trust even its most loyal
apparatchiks with exposure to an outside world that might
"contaminate" their world-view.

There is indeed internet in the DPRK. It is, however, tightly controlled,
almost exclusively accessed in their equivalent of the "PC Bang" (PC room),
with a state chaperone standing there watching over everyone's shoulders.
Limited e-mail access between family members with family in the south, etc.

It's indeed a very closed society, but not so much as you may be lead to
believe. Several ROK businesses have manufacturing facilities in the DPRK (a
pilot program in a city just north of the border). People being people, one
can be certain that the employees there do talk about things they see and
hear..

One interesting thing to look at: The ROK still (even though they SAID they
stopped years ago) jams several DPRK MW stations. Gotta wonder about that
one. I don't hear any jamming coming the other direction (of course, that
could be because the main KBS MW outlets are running in excess of 1.5MW
daytime and 750KW night....)


Old dictatorial habits die hard, I suppose. And if the MW content is
as loopy as the international, you'd think the ROK would WANT their
citizens to see what passes for thinking in the North.

Then again, maybe they're afraid that the urge for reunification will
trump good sense in a significant number of their people.

As for the DPRK not jamming the south's MW: Electricity is a rare and
precious commodity there, right? And I believe they don't allow their
people to have any radios that can tune in anything but the Dear
Leader's stuff. If that's still true, and there isn't a sizable number
of people homebrewing their own sets, why waste valuable money jamming
what isn't being heard anyway?

--
Col. I.P. Yurin
Commissariat of Internal Security

Stakhanovite
Order of Lenin (1937)
Hero of Socialist Labor (1939)

"I. P. Yurin" wrote in message
...
As for the DPRK not jamming the south's MW: Electricity is a rare and
precious commodity there, right? And I believe they don't allow their
people to have any radios that can tune in anything but the Dear
Leader's stuff. If that's still true, and there isn't a sizable number
of people homebrewing their own sets, why waste valuable money jamming
what isn't being heard anyway?


Good points...

On Thu, 28 May 2009 09:22:51 +0900, "Brenda Ann"
wrote:

"I. P. Yurin" wrote in message
.. .
As for the DPRK not jamming the south's MW: Electricity is a rare and
precious commodity there, right? And I believe they don't allow their
people to have any radios that can tune in anything but the Dear
Leader's stuff. If that's still true, and there isn't a sizable number
of people homebrewing their own sets, why waste valuable money jamming
what isn't being heard anyway?


Good points...


Now, what might be fun is for the ROK to take some of those insanely
powerful transmitters they use locally, tune them to the frequencies
that the Dear Leader uses to reach his adoring people, and aim them at
the DPRK's population centers...

Then put on some "Lord Haw-Haw" type performances, mocking the crazy
little maniac and his insane, homicidal policies and regime.

Just for 2 or 3 minutes at a time... randomly distributed during peak
listening hours... I'll bet THAT would give the starving, mind-numbed
masses the energy needed to tune in!

Then again... it might rile up the little bugger so much that he sends
a million troops over the DMZ.

That wouldn't be so funny, after all. So let's just scrap the whole
idea.

--
Col. I. P. Yurin
Commissariat of Internal Security

Stakhanovite
Order of Lenin (1937)
Hero of Socialist Labor (1939)

"I. P. Yurin" wrote in message
...

Now, what might be fun is for the ROK to take some of those insanely
powerful transmitters they use locally, tune them to the frequencies
that the Dear Leader uses to reach his adoring people, and aim them at
the DPRK's population centers...

Then put on some "Lord Haw-Haw" type performances, mocking the crazy
little maniac and his insane, homicidal policies and regime.

Just for 2 or 3 minutes at a time... randomly distributed during peak
listening hours... I'll bet THAT would give the starving, mind-numbed
masses the energy needed to tune in!

Then again... it might rile up the little bugger so much that he sends
a million troops over the DMZ.

That wouldn't be so funny, after all. So let's just scrap the whole
idea.

--
Col. I. P. Yurin
Commissariat of Internal Security

One station, at 972 KHz, is just across the bay from me (you can hear them
on any radio, even one with no antenna... ) and is beamed due north to
Pyeongyang. Apparently, there is some political fun and games because now
the following seems to be in force:

Strangely, the North does not usually jam the medium-wave transmissions of
South Korea's broadcast towards-the-North, KBS Radio Korean Ethnicity
(formerly KBS Radio Liberty Social Education) on 972 and 1134 kHz. It should
be noted that KBS Radio Korean Ethnicity actually no longer targets North
Koreans since the North-South Korea Joint Declaration on 15 June 2000. As of
15 August 2007, the radio channel has changed to a special radio broadcast
for ethinic Koreans in Northeast China and Far Eastern Russia.[2]

Korea at DEFCON 1?
www.stevequayle.com/index1.html
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On Thu, 28 May 2009 11:52:29 +0900, "Brenda Ann"
wrote:

"I. P. Yurin" wrote in message
.. .

Now, what might be fun is for the ROK to take some of those insanely
powerful transmitters they use locally, tune them to the frequencies
that the Dear Leader uses to reach his adoring people, and aim them at
the DPRK's population centers...

Then put on some "Lord Haw-Haw" type performances, mocking the crazy
little maniac and his insane, homicidal policies and regime.

Just for 2 or 3 minutes at a time... randomly distributed during peak
listening hours... I'll bet THAT would give the starving, mind-numbed
masses the energy needed to tune in!

Then again... it might rile up the little bugger so much that he sends
a million troops over the DMZ.

That wouldn't be so funny, after all. So let's just scrap the whole
idea.

--
Col. I. P. Yurin
Commissariat of Internal Security

One station, at 972 KHz, is just across the bay from me (you can hear them
on any radio, even one with no antenna... ) and is beamed due north to
Pyeongyang. Apparently, there is some political fun and games because now
the following seems to be in force:

With "no antenna" meaning exactly that? -- no intended antenna at all?
If I take the ferrite bar out of a crappy portable, it makes no
difference?

I suppose so, given the power ratings you've quoted.

I just can't imagine what it's like to have 0.75 - 1.5MW blasted at
me. That must be how people hear voices from their dental fillings.


Strangely, the North does not usually jam the medium-wave transmissions of
South Korea's broadcast towards-the-North, KBS Radio Korean Ethnicity
(formerly KBS Radio Liberty Social Education) on 972 and 1134 kHz. It should
be noted that KBS Radio Korean Ethnicity actually no longer targets North
Koreans since the North-South Korea Joint Declaration on 15 June 2000. As of
15 August 2007, the radio channel has changed to a special radio broadcast
for ethinic Koreans in Northeast China and Far Eastern Russia.[2]


I'm sorry. I tried a few times to understand this paragraph, but I
still fail. It has a footnote, though. Should there have been more to
it than I got?

--
Col. I. P. Yurin
Commissariat of Internal Security

Stakhanovite
Order of Lenin (1937)
Hero of Socialist Labor (1939)