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On Jun 6, 5:24?pm, Telamon

It is not logical to attribute to a small group of industrialists the
failings of our country and politicians to head Hiller off earlier.


Ford was largely responsible for expanding the German industrial base
which was instrumental in Hitler's war effort. Ford was looking for
cheaper labor, but those plants were quickly converted to roll out
tanks.

Lindbergh was a paid consultant to the Germans, helping them set up
the Luftwaffe. He was enamored by their Spartan-like military
discipline.

I challenge anyone to show how any left-wing groups had anything to do
in supporting Hitler.


Well, there WAS that Stalin guy...



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On Jun 6, 9:46�pm, "Brenda Ann" wrote:


Well, there WAS that Stalin guy...


Uh, Stalin, regardless of his own atrocities, was fooled like everyone
else signing treaties with Germany during the '30s. Hitler was at odds
with Stalin during the entire last half of the '30s.

Right-wing industrialists propped up German military infrastructure.
Now what did Stalin do for Hitler? Don't demean the 15 to 20 million
Soviets that died fighting Hitler, either. A toll far, far higher than
the US had to endure.

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On Jun 6, 9:46?pm, "Brenda Ann" wrote:


Well, there WAS that Stalin guy...


Uh, Stalin, regardless of his own atrocities, was fooled like everyone
else signing treaties with Germany during the '30s. Hitler was at odds
with Stalin during the entire last half of the '30s.

Right-wing industrialists propped up German military infrastructure.
Now what did Stalin do for Hitler? Don't demean the 15 to 20 million
Soviets that died fighting Hitler, either. A toll far, far higher than
the US had to endure.

Mike

Agreed. If it weren't for the Russians, we may never have won that war.
Hitler was mad as a hatter, trying to fight a war on so many simultaneous
fronts (along with turning on his allies in the middle of it all..)


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"Mike" wrote in message
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On Jun 6, 9:46?pm, "Brenda Ann" wrote:


Well, there WAS that Stalin guy...


Uh, Stalin, regardless of his own atrocities, was fooled like everyone
else signing treaties with Germany during the '30s. Hitler was at odds
with Stalin during the entire last half of the '30s.

Right-wing industrialists propped up German military infrastructure.
Now what did Stalin do for Hitler?


Stalin created a non unified front against Hitler emboldening him.

Don't demean the 15 to 20 million Soviets that died fighting Hitler,
either. A toll far, far higher than the US had to endure.

Agreed. If it weren't for the Russians, we may never have won that war.
Hitler was mad as a hatter, trying to fight a war on so many simultaneous
fronts (along with turning on his allies in the middle of it all..)


I don't agree with that outlook. Hitler always crossed his fingers
behind his back when signing any treaty and decided not to honor the
nonaggression treaties he signed with the Russians starting a war on
both fronts for the Germans once he thought he had the western front
under control so don't thank the Russians thank Hitler for making his
biggest mistake in the WW2.

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