On Sun, 21 Jun 2009 07:29:13 -0700, Chas. Chan wrote:

On Jun 18, 2:54Â*am, (Doug Bashford) wrote:
Â* Â* Â* Â* Â*hal said about:
Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Who Is "Fascist"?

On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 18:40:15 -0700 (PDT), 0baMa0 Tse Dung
wrote:

Those who put a high value on words may recoil at the title of Jonah
Goldberg's new book, "Liberal Fascism." As a result, they may refuse
to read it, which will be their loss -- and a major loss.
this is nothing more than right wing propagandists trying to redefine
terms.

And millions of American eager to swallow.

Like they made liberal a bad word. Â*Marx was right. Â*It all comes
down to class warfare. Â*Either we let the ultra wealthy conservatives
hide behind their corporations and run the government for their own
personal benefit, or we let the people run the government for the
benefit of all. Â*Fascism is the ultra wealthy controlling the
government. Â*Liberalism has attempted to take that control back and
put it in the hands of The People. Â*Such was the purpose of The US
Constitution. Â*A very liberal document by the way.

Yup.

Synopsis from World Book 1958:
Â* Â* Â* Fascism's parts:
Â* Â* Â*1) extreme nationalism, 2) police state, 3) cultivation of
Â* Â* Â*ignorance, 4) suppression of labor, Â*5) militarism.

cultivation of ignorance?

Karl Rove answers:
Â* Â*"As people do better, they start voting like Republicans
Â* Â* Â*-- unless they have too much education and vote Democratic,
Â* Â* which Â*proves there can be too much of a good thing."
Â* Â* Â* Â* --Karl Rove, February 19, 2001

Â* Â* Â*"We stand for the maintenance of private
Â* property... We shall protect free enterprise as the
Â* Â* Â*most expedient, or rather the sole possible
Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* economic order."
Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Adolph Hitler

Â* " Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it
Â* is a merger of State and
Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* corporate power."
Â*Benito Mussolini (1883-1945), Fascist Dictator of
Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Italy

Â* Â*" The liberty of a democracy is not safe if the
Â*people tolerate the growth of Government power to the
Â* Â* Â*point where it becomes stronger than The
Â* Â* People. That in its essence is
Â* Â* Â*Socialism - ownership of everything by Government. "
Â* Â*President Franklin Delano Roosevelt - on the
Â* Â* Â*threat to democracy by corporate power

The insane twist the facts to fit their world view. The rational change
their world view to fit the facts.


Fascist Benito Mussolini and socialist Roosevelt held each other in high
regard.
Roosevelt was a Big fan of Mussilini fascism because he recognized that
fascism was the only means to true Socialism.

I would by far rather have the Private Sector run government than have
The Governement run the private sector.

Read "The Road to Sefdom".

You seem to have answered your own question: Mussolini was a fascist.

Your ridiculous unsupported claims that Roosevelt was a "socialist" and
that "he recognized that fascism was the only means to true Socialism"
are your own demented creations.

The reality is that socialism is a political manifestation in which the
government _OWNS_ the means of production. Fascism is ab-use of
government by the wealthy and powerful in league with the church to
maintain and enhance the power of the owner class. These two political
contrivances are entirely different.

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"Those are my opinions and you can't have em" -- Bart Simpson