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On Mar 8, 1:30*pm, wrote:
On Mar 8, 11:07*am, bpnjensen wrote:





On Mar 8, 7:48*am, "D. Peter Maus"
wrote:


On 3/8/10 09:20 , bpnjensen wrote:


On Mar 8, 6:20 am, *wrote:
You believe because you've dropped the big bucks and WANT to believe.
But most of it is hype and the *EIA has done a superb job of convincing
consumers how badly they need the new whistles and bells. There is
very little difference between the propaganda used today by the drug
companies to sell
their nonsense snake oil *("restless legs syndrome," etc) and that which the
has come
from manufacturers of modern day radios.


Save your money, pick up a cheap older rig and you'll enjoy it as much as
(if not more than)
the rigs filled with rarely used features and performance specifications
that are
patently unnecessary.


And while I am at it, my quote was that "MOST" can discern the difference
in 100 cycles. I didn't say ALL. This group seems include many Doberman
pinschers
with keen hearing.


What a *bunch of nitpicky old ladies
are on here.


Clive, I have an Icom R75, and although some will diss this radio, I
can tell I enjoy the "bells and whistles" a great deal. *The stability
and crispness of the signal (both driftwise and in terms of AGC and S-
AM) that can be achieved with this radio is quite nice.


* *Did you get the crystal oven on that one?


The S-AM on
this set is only so-so, from what I understand - I would love to hear
what the really good S-AM (on a more recent Drake, for example) sounds
like.


* *I've got sync on my Drakes, Lowe Ten-Tec and AOR. The difference
is in the distortion during fades. There's less of it. The fades are
still there, but the audio doesn't shatter.


* *If you know what you're listening for, it's a big difference. If
not, it's not that big a deal.


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Thanks, Peter - well, that's about what I thought - the Kiwa-modified
S-AM on the R75 definitely helps soften the blow of the fades (the
distortion disappears for all practical purposes), and the AGC when
the RF Gain is turned back a wee bit fills in and remedies all but the
deepest fades. *I just figured the Drake/AOR/etc. did it better. *Not
having ever heard one in person (NOBODY sells or demos them around
this metropolis), I just don't know for sure. *In fact, you can't find
any shortwave receiver sales at all anymore except the usual lowball
Etons at RS. *HRO has nothing but tranceivers anymore.


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* *Eton is even lower than most people think of it.- Hide quoted text -

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Oh, I dunno - lots of people like the E-1 sans XM. Never heard one
myself.

Bruce
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On 3/8/10 15:37 , bpnjensen wrote:
On Mar 8, 1:30 pm, wrote:
On Mar 8, 11:07 am, wrote:





On Mar 8, 7:48 am, "D. Peter
wrote:


On 3/8/10 09:20 , bpnjensen wrote:


On Mar 8, 6:20 am, wrote:
You believe because you've dropped the big bucks and WANT to believe.
But most of it is hype and the EIA has done a superb job of convincing
consumers how badly they need the new whistles and bells. There is
very little difference between the propaganda used today by the drug
companies to sell
their nonsense snake oil ("restless legs syndrome," etc) and that which the
has come
from manufacturers of modern day radios.


Save your money, pick up a cheap older rig and you'll enjoy it as much as
(if not more than)
the rigs filled with rarely used features and performance specifications
that are
patently unnecessary.


And while I am at it, my quote was that "MOST" can discern the difference
in 100 cycles. I didn't say ALL. This group seems include many Doberman
pinschers
with keen hearing.


What a bunch of nitpicky old ladies
are on here.


Clive, I have an Icom R75, and although some will diss this radio, I
can tell I enjoy the "bells and whistles" a great deal. The stability
and crispness of the signal (both driftwise and in terms of AGC and S-
AM) that can be achieved with this radio is quite nice.


Did you get the crystal oven on that one?


The S-AM on
this set is only so-so, from what I understand - I would love to hear
what the really good S-AM (on a more recent Drake, for example) sounds
like.


I've got sync on my Drakes, Lowe Ten-Tec and AOR. The difference
is in the distortion during fades. There's less of it. The fades are
still there, but the audio doesn't shatter.


If you know what you're listening for, it's a big difference. If
not, it's not that big a deal.


I use my rigs without sync more than with.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Thanks, Peter - well, that's about what I thought - the Kiwa-modified
S-AM on the R75 definitely helps soften the blow of the fades (the
distortion disappears for all practical purposes), and the AGC when
the RF Gain is turned back a wee bit fills in and remedies all but the
deepest fades. I just figured the Drake/AOR/etc. did it better. Not
having ever heard one in person (NOBODY sells or demos them around
this metropolis), I just don't know for sure. In fact, you can't find
any shortwave receiver sales at all anymore except the usual lowball
Etons at RS. HRO has nothing but tranceivers anymore.


Bruce- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Eton is even lower than most people think of it.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Oh, I dunno - lots of people like the E-1 sans XM. Never heard one
myself.

Bruce



It doesn't sound as impressive as it looks. The audio is
comparable to Sat 700, which wasn't quite as smooth as Sat 500.


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On Mar 8, 3:04*pm, Bob Dobbs wrote:
bpnjensen wrote:

Oh, I dunno - lots of people like the E-1 sans XM. *Never heard one
myself.


That radio is the best SW portable I've ever had. Mine is the E1XM model
and I even got the antenna module, but don't subscribe and haven't used it since
the free OTA special a couple years ago (channel 130 POTUS 08). I even have a
Sirius capable radio that I decided not to get the antenna module for.

--

Operator Bob
Echo Charlie 42


I really like satellite radio. I've had it in a couple of rental
cars, and it's da bomb. Gets a little goofy under heavy tree cover,
but the selection of quality music (classical, jazz) is wonderful. A
great replacement for general-listening FM broadcast.

Bruce
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Cameras, you say? I have a Lot of very old film cameras.A foot locker
full of them and another foot locker about half way full of them.Also, I
have some very old movie cameras and some old camera lenses and other
camera related thingys, some old tripods too.I bought them many years
ago at thrift stores and junk shops, bought them when the prices was
Good.I am and always have been a junk collector, all kinds of junk,
radios too, but it isn't all junk.Some old cameras are very collectible,
check out the Browns catalog about old collectible cameras.

I almost never take any pictures, but when I do, I use my Kodak FX 600
film camera.It works just fine for me.

http://www.devilfinder.com
Collectible Cameras
cuhulin

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On Mar 8, 3:31*pm, wrote:
Cameras, you say? I have a Lot of very old film cameras.A foot locker
full of them and another foot locker about half way full of them.Also, I
have some very old movie cameras and some old camera lenses and other
camera related thingys, some old tripods too.I bought them many years
ago at thrift stores and junk shops, bought them when the prices was
Good.I am and always have been a junk collector, all kinds of junk,
radios too, but it isn't all junk.Some old cameras are very collectible,
check out the Browns catalog about old collectible cameras.

I almost never take any pictures, but when I do, I use my Kodak FX 600
film camera.It works just fine for me.

http://www.devilfinder.com
Collectible Cameras
cuhulin


Cuhulin, they're not doing you a damn bit of good stuck in a
footlocker! You should either use them or sell them!


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Mee, sell my old stuff,,, izza yu kiddin? My perogative is to Hang On to
my old Cameras, and my old Radios, and ALL of my old stuff.Now, iffen
you wants to buy sumpin, I mowed some of my yard thi affernoon.Ahh weel
be glad (I say, Ahh weel be GLAD) tu sell you the grass clippins thet
Ahh bagged uppa anna put en mah plastyk trash/garbage can.Ahh also haz
sum kitchin garbage Ahh weel be GLAD to sayle tu yoo tuu.Better Hurry
uppa now!, teh garbage truk runs termorry mawnin.
cuhulin

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On Mar 8, 4:28*pm, wrote:
Mee, sell my old stuff,,, izza yu kiddin? My perogative is to Hang On to
my old Cameras, and my old Radios, and ALL of my old stuff.Now, iffen
you wants to buy sumpin, I mowed some of my yard thi affernoon.Ahh weel
be glad (I say, Ahh weel be GLAD) tu sell you the grass clippins thet
Ahh bagged uppa anna put en mah plastyk trash/garbage can.Ahh also haz
sum kitchin garbage Ahh weel be GLAD to sayle tu yoo tuu.Better Hurry
uppa now!, teh garbage truk runs termorry mawnin. *
cuhulin


OK, well - they just sit there and get older, not doing you or anyone
else any good. When you die, some socialist gummint agency will come
and haul them away for scrap.

As for grass clippings - I have all I need ;-).
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Ever since I bought my Kodak FX 600 film camers about ten something
years ago, I reckon I have probally used up four, maybe five, film
canisters in that camera.I am not much of a picture taking dude.
cuhulin

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