"nobody" wrote in message
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On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 05:23:02 -0800, dave wrote:

nobody wrote:


Nice attempt at spin. When asked about the specific bill, the
majority in every poll, was against it.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...plan-1130.html

Here's some "spin" from the web page you directed us to.

Add the people who oppose because the bill is not liberal enough (13%),
and the people who support the bill (39%), then you get 52%, which is
more than half.

Please cite the specific poll that says this. Also it's odd that you
include those who don't support the bill because it's not liberal
enough as supporting the bill.

From the CNN/Opinion Research Poll:

21. (IF OPPOSE) Do you oppose that legislation because you think its
approach toward health care is

too liberal, or because you think it is not liberal enough?

QUESTIONS 20 AND 21 COMBINED

Mar 19-21

2010

Favor (from Question 20) 39%

Oppose, too liberal 43%

Oppose, not liberal enough 13%

No opinion 5%

On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 16:53:14 -0700 (PDT), bpnjensen
wrote:

On Mar 24, 3:40*pm, nobody wrote:
On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 04:56:43 -0800, dave wrote:
Bob wrote:
*wrote in message
. ..
On Tue, 23 Mar 2010 09:05:58 -0500, *wrote:

The House of Representatives acts as "the People". *They did what they
were elected to do in 2008. *Insane slanted news be damned.

They may have done what they thought they
were elected to do, but they did not represent
the will of the people.

What "will of the people"?

You keep regurgitating the mantra that Americans "dont want health
care reform"---and that's NOT what the polls indicate, nor is it
accurate to claim thats not one of the things demcrats were
specfically sent to address.

I have said no such thing. I am saying the polls
indicate a majority of the public opposed the
health care bill just passed by the House. Hopefully,
those Representatives who felt it necessary to show
disdain for the will of their constituents will be replaced
at the next election.

Those surveys were too vague to have any meaning. *No one knew what was
in that bill. *They knew what they heard from the mainstream media,
which was (and is) totally distorted and flat-out inaccurate.

When asked about specific provisions, including a public option, the
people are overwhelmingly in favor of the legislation.

What bill had the public option and which poll covered it?

There was no such bill that made anywhere near the final cut - but
when the GP was asked about specific ideas, whether in a written draft
or not, numerous polls since the beginning of this debate showed a
fairly substantial, if not always overwhelming, preference for a
public option. IF you want me too, I believe I can locate the results
of "a few." Say the word..

Any idea *sounds* good. It seems, when people get to see the details,
they quickly change their tune.

On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 22:43:27 -0700, wrote:

On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 18:40:58 -0400, nobody wrote:

When asked about specific provisions, including a public option, the
people are overwhelmingly in favor of the legislation.

What bill had the public option and which poll covered it

House bill

The contentious rift between house and Senate Democrats was the
removal of the public option and favoritism for some states.

Then please show a poll with a majority favoring that bill with the
public option.

On Thu, 25 Mar 2010 10:47:11 +0900, "Brenda Ann"
wrote:


"nobody" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 05:23:02 -0800, dave wrote:

nobody wrote:


Nice attempt at spin. When asked about the specific bill, the
majority in every poll, was against it.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...plan-1130.html

Here's some "spin" from the web page you directed us to.

Add the people who oppose because the bill is not liberal enough (13%),
and the people who support the bill (39%), then you get 52%, which is
more than half.

Please cite the specific poll that says this. Also it's odd that you
include those who don't support the bill because it's not liberal
enough as supporting the bill.

From the CNN/Opinion Research Poll:

21. (IF OPPOSE) Do you oppose that legislation because you think its
approach toward health care is

too liberal, or because you think it is not liberal enough?

QUESTIONS 20 AND 21 COMBINED

Mar 19-21

2010

Favor (from Question 20) 39%

Oppose, too liberal 43%

Oppose, not liberal enough 13%

No opinion 5%


You mean the poll that doesn't state the political afiliation
breakdown of those surveyed in its methodology? They do for most of
their polls.

wrote:
fed govt is a corporation, the Most CROOKED ASS corporation in the
WORLD!!!
They (''They'') think they are ''special'' and They (''They'') don't
have to follow the ''Rules'' They (''They'') set forth for everybody
else!

Now, just who/whom do y'all believe our WORST ENEMIES ARE???
cuhulin


Them is us.

wrote:
On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 18:42:45 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 05:23:02 -0800, wrote:

nobody wrote:


Nice attempt at spin. When asked about the specific bill, the
majority in every poll, was against it.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...plan-1130.html

Here's some "spin" from the web page you directed us to.

Add the people who oppose because the bill is not liberal enough (13%),
and the people who support the bill (39%), then you get 52%, which is
more than half.

Please cite the specific poll that says this.

The polls didn't ask it that way

THe polls only indicate the opposition based on a sampling response
for favorability.

It's the public sentiment from politicians, grass roots that clearly
pointed to the progressive wing being in that "opposing group"

It requires a little cogent thought to put 2 and 2 together

If Dennis Kucinich's vocal opposition isn't enough to suggest it, what
better evidence?


Kucinich supports the bill.

nobody wrote:


Then please show a poll with a majority favoring that bill with the
public option.

This one's real easy:

http://www.bing.com/search?q=polling...form=QBLH&qs=n

Gail Hederman's Tree House.
http://www.todayinmississippi.com
http://www.gailhederman.com/about.php

There is big fancy Tree House in Clinton,Mississippi, five miles West of
doggy's couch.The City of Clinton wanted them to tear it down.Tear it
down!?, that is a NO! NO!,,, that big fancy Tree House is still there!

There is another woman in Mississippi who lives in an Airplane.

Eccentric backwater hicks, but they are Smart eccentric backwater
hicks,,, and also they are Conservative Republican backwater hicks.
cuhulin, the backwater hick

On Mar 25, 2:41*am, nobody wrote:
On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 16:53:14 -0700 (PDT), bpnjensen





wrote:
On Mar 24, 3:40*pm, nobody wrote:
On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 04:56:43 -0800, dave wrote:
Bob wrote:
*wrote in message
. ..
On Tue, 23 Mar 2010 09:05:58 -0500, *wrote:

The House of Representatives acts as "the People". *They did what they
were elected to do in 2008. *Insane slanted news be damned.

They may have done what they thought they
were elected to do, but they did not represent
the will of the people.

What "will of the people"?

You keep regurgitating the mantra that Americans "dont want health
care reform"---and that's NOT what the polls indicate, nor is it
accurate to claim thats not one of the things demcrats were
specfically sent to address.

I have said no such thing. I am saying the polls
indicate a majority of the public opposed the
health care bill just passed by the House. Hopefully,
those Representatives who felt it necessary to show
disdain for the will of their constituents will be replaced
at the next election.

Those surveys were too vague to have any meaning. *No one knew what was
in that bill. *They knew what they heard from the mainstream media,
which was (and is) totally distorted and flat-out inaccurate.

When asked about specific provisions, including a public option, the
people are overwhelmingly in favor of the legislation.

What bill had the public option and which poll covered it?

There was no such bill that made anywhere near the final cut - but
when the GP was asked about specific ideas, whether in a written draft
or not, numerous polls since the beginning of this debate showed a
fairly substantial, if not always overwhelming, preference for a
public option. *IF you want me too, I believe I can locate the results
of "a few." *Say the word.. *

Any idea *sounds* good. *It seems, when people get to see the details,
they quickly change their tune.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

It "seems"?

Well, you didn't say you wanted to see the polls, so I won't bother to
look for them. As far as details, the important one is that under a
public option, everyone who signs up gets insurance in exchange for
the pay-in fee, which is basically a tax on the specific service. I
think everyone who took the polls pretty much understood that. What
other mysterious details did you have in mind?

On Mar 25, 6:11*am, dave wrote:
nobody wrote:

Then please show a poll with a majority favoring that bill with the
public option.

This one's real easy:

http://www.bing.com/search?q=polling...form=QBLH&qs=n

Like I told him earlier...

...and I don't think these numbers generally have changed much. The
concept remains popular.